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Etereo
He was later beaten within an inch of his life
FrankPembleton
this is an excellent microcosm of how big business can steal from you but not the other way around, except dude won the court case
SternoTesticularLigament
Thought casinos (in US) can deny electronic winning due to ‘malfunction’?
bripi
If they can't prove you cheated, you didn't cheat. The US criminal code, ladies and gentlemen...
Fishypants
“I didn’t know that I wasn’t supposed to do that”
ayhhha
that’s a whole ‘nother level of luck
simplefishy
True, was on dark net diaries https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/18/
BlueskydragonFX
scamming the scammers. beautiful.
BoomerSooner767
A good friend of mine figured out how to manipulate the player point cards with video poker machines. Got banned from a large portion (cont)
BoomerSooner767
of U.S. casinos. And the back room beatings are real. He and his adult son got beat by casino staff and then the police one night. He (cont)
BoomerSooner767
made a ton of cash and a shit ton of comped trips and prizes before it was figured out. Nothing illegal but it tips the odds a bit your way.
SmokyDoggg
Yeah nah that’s when they take you into a little room and beat the shit out of your hand with a hammer to teach you a lesson.
LuftMeister
I, too, watched 21
Wikipedo
Or Casino
supermario182
That's weird, because most machines have a sticker on it that any malfunction voids play. Maybe that's just in Canada though
gaidinbdj
He was acquitted of the criminal charges for unauthorized access, not for collecting on the voided games.
Abrausedteleprot
a court ruled "video poker machines failed to constitute protected computers and actions failed to constitute exceeding authorized access,"
gaidinbdj
Not quite. He was acquitted of the criminal charges, but is not entitled to the money. Any machine malfunction voids the game.
Turbolibros
ThrowAwayYEEET
Funny enough we found a similiar bug in novoline machines.
ThrowAwayYEEET
The machines had a "risk" bonus mode when you won something you could risk this money on a double down mode. It was a ladder and each step..
ThrowAwayYEEET
..doubled your money by pressing red or black (or loosing everything) up until the top which was a big value. By always pressing black at ..
ThrowAwayYEEET
.. every single win, the machine had a higher chance of giving you the top value win and multiple big wins almost sure. So all we did was..
ThrowAwayYEEET
pressing spin, if won pressing risk, and smashing black. They patched it at some point when it got public and it did not work anymore.
AllyMo
Just checked it, and it's basically true.
jp189512
He didn't get his winnings seized, the guys he brought in to help with it, did get their winnings seized
GrumpyOldMillennial
Agreed. "Machine malfunction" has been used in the past to refuse legit payouts to winners. Casinos basically have no oversight for that.
gaidinbdj
This was Vegas. Casinos have very strict oversight when voiding games here.
Gogurtsarebetterwhenfrozen
As someone who has been in the casino industry for 10 years, you are partly correct. Yes, "Malfunction Voids All Pays and Plays" 1/?
Gogurtsarebetterwhenfrozen
Is printed on every slot, that only applies to payouts that can be withheld in the moment. Like a jackpot that has to be paid to player 2/?
Gogurtsarebetterwhenfrozen
This doesn't apply to this situation because this guy did this for a while, and he never had to have anyone pay him, the slot did all of 3/?
Gogurtsarebetterwhenfrozen
Work. He wasn't caught doing it until he already had the money. I've also actually spoken to vendors from this specific slot company. 4/?
moistsox
I build casinos, if you can find video poker machines then play them. They have the highest player advantage out of everything on the floor.
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
And are also the most addictive.
HunglikeaHamster
Play them? I'm pretty sure your best bet is not to play any game at all in a casino..
moistsox
The game labeled ATM pays out 100%
TinyLiehon
They builds casinos. Do you really think they're gonna give you good advice?
immunity
I thought that accolade went to Blackjack?
o4kill
Nah, they fuck with it by reshuffling multiple decks after every round and ban you if you count cards (aka bring skill into it)
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immunity
Interesting. Never bothered to learn to play that one. Seemed far more complex.
TinyLiehon
Bangarang to you too
GingeraffeTW
UNFORTUNATELY, he wasn't allowed to keep his kneecaps after he was jumped in the parking lot.
RyanHYK
Friggin' Laurence Fishbourne.
Jaydice
His dad brought jumper cables didn’t he?
JandalfTheJay
makeSX
thepatioheater
FORTUNATELY, he was able to afford better, bigger kneecaps with the winnings.
wurth
Also FORTUNATELY, now he can tell when a storm's a comin.
bekkayya
lozeldatkm
Ah yes, ol' Johnny Silverknees
arumanl1
Could he bend his knees outwardly like Barbie with those kneecaps?
Basis64
Who would want bigger kneecaps? Haha.
Raemnyx
Who doesn't?
Basis64
I'm fine with the size kneecaps I have now ;p
Raemnyx
Suit yourself, but I think you're gonna be mad jealous when you see my big ol' bucklers
StonesOnTheHill
The flashy kind with spinny shiny rims.
mastertrav666
Its not a bug, its a feature.
Link087
*Undocumented feature
ProfessorPritt
In Cybergonk2077 my game doesnt display cigarettes in characters hands so I thought in the game everyone used virtual cigs
thatsakillergripbro
erikleorga
Used to use the same line in Halo 2 back in the days of button combos.
derparchivist
Cite your sources
GodsFoot
www.trustme.com
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Darude - Sandstorm
mikeymikec
Skeptical Michael is skeptical: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40300062
3dartwork
Bots are incapable of doing so
PenguinPete
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Kane And I might add, that guy got a GOOD lawyer!
gaidinbdj
Just a note that this was only for the acquittal of the criminal charges for unauthorized access. It did not entitle him to the money...
gaidinbdj
...from the voided games.
iTakeQuotesOutOfContext
The bottom of the Wired article mentions there are no court filings indicating Kane’s winnings were ever seized. Only Nestor’s
phreakpower
Not OP but I’ve heard this story before. https://www.wired.com/2014/10/cheating-video-poker/
Ironplaid
Actual decent prose. Reads like Inherent Vice.
GoldenSun3DS
That article is written like a novel.
ko0ji9hu82718
Thank you, Hella too In-depth, but good story
derparchivist
Thanks!
GingerLaird
So only Kane got away safely. His friend Nestor got shafted horribly.
heyguysimisaac
Casinos in Vegas hate when you do this one simple trick!
NewToTheEnterwbs
Jeebus I hate all the filler embellishing writing. Someone tell me please if they got away or not, please
lemmefixit
No, they didn't. That's why there's an article about them.
NewToTheEnterwbs
Ok thanks. I just wanted to see how much of that stupid meme was false.