Fascists do not accept accusations against themselves. She is a fascist. She will not cooperate willingly, especially if she or her fellow fascists are the ones being accused. People like her are only brought to justice when the law and its consequences are forced on them. They will reject, deny, and fight as dirty as they can to avoid justice.
And at the end of it all he'll pardon the lot of them and if that doesn't work they'll be living it up lavish and plush in Saudi-Arabia or UAE. Catch them now, punish them now, while you still can.
The large binder of stuff is a distraction tactic and is a “calming thing.” Remove that from them so you force her and others to face everyone and have their full attention and the meltdown would be epic and thry would hang herself.
I sometimes wonder what her plan is. Does she think dear leader won't be gone any time soon and she's safe? Is she sure she won't face any consequences once he is gone? Is she planning on living in exile when he's gone? Does she and everybody that's complicit in this think they'll live a normal life once dear leader is gone?
Do they really think this will end her career? The are only 2 realistic possibilities for everyone i the administration at this point: They either all get away scot-free and live a life drinking everyone's tears, or they die from a bunch of gunshot wounds.
This is unironically what conservatism is - literally "everything we do is good, no matter how bad it is, because we're the Right People, and everything you do is bad, no matter how good it is, because you're the Wrong People".
??? Why would that shut her down? She'll just keep fucking rambling. Her entire job there was just to be a disruptive bitch. Fascists don't back down in the face of facts or gotchas.
I don't mean this harshly but you guys need to stop living in this fantasy world where any level of good faith given to these people will be reciprocated positively.
She's a shitty lawyer. All lawyers have dealt with other lawyers like Bondi who think loud defiance is good lawyering. It isn't except when your employer is a President who has thus far been untouchable.
Her career is just fine, As long as she keeps kissing orange cheeks she is likely safe. This is not the US Government we learned about in school anymore where people are held even slightly accountable. Under a Trump admin all that matters is loyalty, bend the knee and kiss the ring. Convicted of a felony? Rich? buy a few mil in TrumpCoin and bam A Wild Pardon appears.
Indict and/or impeach her tomorrow, that's the only way this will matter, don't demand her resignation, don't threaten contempt. INDICT HER AND ARREST HER FOR PERJURY IMMEDIATELY. They will never willingly be held to account for their actions, don't give them the option to muddy the waters and waste time.
If I were her, I would not bet on Trump actually pardoning. He does that shit for cash, not loyalty. White supremacists she defends will be like, "Yeah, I'd help, but she's not a guy, so she doesn't matter. She should be grateful she gets to rot in prison for us."
This was a performance for Trump and she passed. What world are people living in where they think there are outside consequences when she's been this was the whole time? Who is gonna prosecute her? Oh herself? Neat.
Unless and until pulling up their hypocrisy results in real punishments, she hasn't - to them - committed a crime. It has to matter. Please USA, make it matter.
Even if she were, Trump will pardon her. And even if he didn't, they will say she doesn't go to prison, and who is going to bring her? Who is going to get killed for the privilege of failing to do the right thing? They got away with a coup d'état, an island of pedophilia and murder on camera. How in your right mind can you believe the justice system will bring anything on the table at this stage?
It's not like he doesn't value the spineless idiots he has amassed as his cabinet. Kristi Noem lacked basic understanding of basic terms like habeas corpus that are imperative to her job , in front of hearings, Hegseth still kicking it after a monumental failure of security with Signal , Linda McMahon of education couldn't do basic math during a hearing, JFK has fucked up numerous times with faulty reports and caught not knowing what his department does. This is nothing
P.S the whole notion of caring about optics is out the window. We live in an era where there cannot be bad optics for the cult leader. He pardoned Juan Orlando Hernández and Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht while supposedly campaigning against drugs. These would be terrible optics, in any normal scenario. Trump isn't bothered by it. The only constant for his decisions is personal benefit, nothing else matters.
I'd say less optimistic and more nostalgic for the old days when partisanship would be ignored if the level of incompetence was high enough. Both Richard Nixon and Dan Quayle were eventually abandoned by their party.
Quayle wasn't incompetent. Compared to Cheney, Pence, Vance, Quayle now looks… conventional. Even dull. History has a way of sanding down reputations. He was not a mastermind. He was not a catastrophe. He was a fairly standard, slightly awkward politician who stepped on too many rakes in front of cameras.
But back in 1988, that was enough to kill your career.
Did this interrupt your copium injections or something? You want whiny? How about being a piece of shit that keeps telling themselves there will be consequences for over ten years? You're almost as bad as the people who say to, "calm down".
Reread that quote you're talking about. "The arc of the moral universe is long" So even that quote agrees that it's unlikely that her career is over over this but rather sometime in the future people will agree she is vile.
That's nowhere close to a threat, although I understand where you're coming from. A "threat" has to include some sort of retribution or punishment; in this case, there was/is none. That's all she got out. He's still right, and she's still a cunt.
I agree that it wasn't a legally actionable threat. But from a language perspective, the implied threat was obvious and so was the disrespect and contempt for (Democratic) legislators. If this had been the response of a defendant in a court of law, there would have been a contempt of court charge.
Agreed on contempt. The committee *has* that power and authority but I think it's chaired by the GOP so hard to get something like that to pass. Bondi was in contempt the whole bloody time and that much was obvious. Schiff (I believe) read off a litany of questions she refused to answer WHICH WAS THE WHOLE POINT of the hearing; that, in its very essence, is the definition of contempt.
she didn't have much of a career before, that's part of why they hired her, she has nowhere to go back to. She was a horrendous lawyer prior to becoming the AG.
As attorney general of Florida from 2011-2019 she could have reopened the Epstein case, where Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal for child sex trafficking and rape in 2008. He was basically allowed to walk free and anyone who associated with him after that time KNEW who he was and what he was doing. Trump hired Bondi bc she has a history of looking to other way for child rapists/sex traffickers operating in her communities and she can obviously be paid to lie. No More Pedo Protectors!!
He was AG of Florida while Trump University was being sued for fraud and dropped the case after a $25k donation to her reelection fund, and while Epstein was convicted of child sex crimes. Also yes, was a registered lobbyist on behalf of the Qatari Gov to the US Congress afterwards.
if there is an after US totalitarian fascism and a complete overall of the government infrastructure, you guys need to get rid of elected functions such as judges, AG or sheriffs, precisely for the reason that those are more concerned by being elected/reelected than doing their job without being corrupted.
Dude you could write an entire book about what needs overhauling here. We're doing what we can. Those of us in the US that are absolutely horrified and fighting ICE in the streets are keenly aware of what led us here. I do appreciate the advice though, If there were some way that I could change things (besides voting and marching and organizing to protect our neighbors) I certainly would.
davebarton315101
Prosecute her.
HunglikeaHamster
That's a bold thing to say about a man who has 34 felony convictions.
Kanneb
Gotta wonder what dirt Trump has on her for her to be so vehemently on his side. Like there's a gun to her head.
rkl1952
Bondi looking in the mirror: “WASHED UP LOSER LAWYER…NOT EVEN A LAWYER”
Renza0
lol, her she'll never face consequences so long as the fascists are in power
Jimthebutler
Bondi, people are allowed to scrutinize those in power, when not constrained by facist policies.
Arkvoodle
Fascists do not accept accusations against themselves. She is a fascist. She will not cooperate willingly, especially if she or her fellow fascists are the ones being accused. People like her are only brought to justice when the law and its consequences are forced on them. They will reject, deny, and fight as dirty as they can to avoid justice.
Dolenmorgul
And at the end of it all he'll pardon the lot of them and if that doesn't work they'll be living it up lavish and plush in Saudi-Arabia or UAE. Catch them now, punish them now, while you still can.
beatmacster
The large binder of stuff is a distraction tactic and is a “calming thing.”
Remove that from them so you force her and others to face everyone and have their full attention and the meltdown would be epic and thry would hang herself.
areis30
I sometimes wonder what her plan is. Does she think dear leader won't be gone any time soon and she's safe? Is she sure she won't face any consequences once he is gone? Is she planning on living in exile when he's gone? Does she and everybody that's complicit in this think they'll live a normal life once dear leader is gone?
EroticZombiePants
Do they really think this will end her career? The are only 2 realistic possibilities for everyone i the administration at this point: They either all get away scot-free and live a life drinking everyone's tears, or they die from a bunch of gunshot wounds.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Ew she licks her finger before turning the page. Probably a double-dipper at the few parties she is "invited" to.
WeirdandOdd
She probably has a "Trump, Get out of Jail Pardon" in her purse, several of them.
yalczero
Every pardon trump has/will issued is going to have to be completely ignored just due to the amount of corruption involved in those pardons.
Antifalalalala
Other than the 37 (and counting) felony convictions he has already accumulated.
michiyl
"Duh, when we do it, it's not a crime!" - fascists
ChazzK
Literally stated by the president.
yamsonyamsonyams
Who is going to prosecute her for perjury? The attorney general going to direct that? The president?
ImGoingToGoFallAsleepOnABench
This is unironically what conservatism is - literally "everything we do is good, no matter how bad it is, because we're the Right People, and everything you do is bad, no matter how good it is, because you're the Wrong People".
KamikazeGerbil101
Time for a Grand Jury !
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
"There is no evidence Trump committed a crime."
"So you haven't done your job of investigating. Evidence comes from investigations."
Would have shut her the fuck down. But what he did also shut her the fuck down, yeah.
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
??? Why would that shut her down? She'll just keep fucking rambling. Her entire job there was just to be a disruptive bitch. Fascists don't back down in the face of facts or gotchas.
I don't mean this harshly but you guys need to stop living in this fantasy world where any level of good faith given to these people will be reciprocated positively.
billdozer86
She's a shitty lawyer. All lawyers have dealt with other lawyers like Bondi who think loud defiance is good lawyering. It isn't except when your employer is a President who has thus far been untouchable.
thrashingcows
STFU!
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Calicoastin818
Filanwizard
Her career is just fine, As long as she keeps kissing orange cheeks she is likely safe. This is not the US Government we learned about in school anymore where people are held even slightly accountable. Under a Trump admin all that matters is loyalty, bend the knee and kiss the ring. Convicted of a felony? Rich? buy a few mil in TrumpCoin and bam A Wild Pardon appears.
whereismymind86
Indict and/or impeach her tomorrow, that's the only way this will matter, don't demand her resignation, don't threaten contempt. INDICT HER AND ARREST HER FOR PERJURY IMMEDIATELY. They will never willingly be held to account for their actions, don't give them the option to muddy the waters and waste time.
samanthadlcruz
"Don't you ever accuse me of a crime".... then stop committing crimes dumbass.
ArdentSlacker
If I were her, I would not bet on Trump actually pardoning. He does that shit for cash, not loyalty. White supremacists she defends will be like, "Yeah, I'd help, but she's not a guy, so she doesn't matter. She should be grateful she gets to rot in prison for us."
MechKelly
She did what they all do when caught in a lie. Scream, whine, go on personal attacks.
DianNaoChong
This was a performance for Trump and she passed. What world are people living in where they think there are outside consequences when she's been this was the whole time? Who is gonna prosecute her? Oh herself? Neat.
RanOutofWit
Unless and until pulling up their hypocrisy results in real punishments, she hasn't - to them - committed a crime. It has to matter. Please USA, make it matter.
yuugian
Very optimistic saying her career is coming to an end. Like getting caught committing crimes has stopped them so far.
khora
It’s the opposite. If she stops lying now she won’t get the pardon.
TheDozenPercent
Even if she were, Trump will pardon her. And even if he didn't, they will say she doesn't go to prison, and who is going to bring her? Who is going to get killed for the privilege of failing to do the right thing? They got away with a coup d'état, an island of pedophilia and murder on camera. How in your right mind can you believe the justice system will bring anything on the table at this stage?
TunnelRat13
Nah, Trump is all about optics. Public reaction to Bondi's performance is what she'll be judged on, same as every other idiot he's hired and fired.
Jinxer13
It's not like he doesn't value the spineless idiots he has amassed as his cabinet. Kristi Noem lacked basic understanding of basic terms like habeas corpus that are imperative to her job , in front of hearings, Hegseth still kicking it after a monumental failure of security with Signal , Linda McMahon of education couldn't do basic math during a hearing, JFK has fucked up numerous times with faulty reports and caught not knowing what his department does. This is nothing
Jinxer13
P.S the whole notion of caring about optics is out the window. We live in an era where there cannot be bad optics for the cult leader. He pardoned Juan Orlando Hernández and Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht while supposedly campaigning against drugs. These would be terrible optics, in any normal scenario. Trump isn't bothered by it. The only constant for his decisions is personal benefit, nothing else matters.
StephenDaniels
I'd say less optimistic and more nostalgic for the old days when partisanship would be ignored if the level of incompetence was high enough. Both Richard Nixon and Dan Quayle were eventually abandoned by their party.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
I long for the days when mispelling potato was enough to end a person's political career.
EroticZombiePants
Nixon was promptly pardoned by Ford. I wouldn't say Nixon was abandoned.
KerryCoder
Quayle wasn't incompetent. Compared to Cheney, Pence, Vance, Quayle now looks… conventional. Even dull. History has a way of sanding down reputations. He was not a mastermind. He was not a catastrophe. He was a fairly standard, slightly awkward politician who stepped on too many rakes in front of cameras.
But back in 1988, that was enough to kill your career.
Cearnaigh
Making a weird sound in a moment of joy was enough to end someone's political career. Raping kids wasn't. Everything is just dumb.
BeatriceAine
Because oaths used to be to the office instead of to Dear Leader.
treadnot
Shut the fuck up omg you whinny bitches up voting this as well, like bro, the arc of judgment quote mlk
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Did this interrupt your copium injections or something? You want whiny? How about being a piece of shit that keeps telling themselves there will be consequences for over ten years? You're almost as bad as the people who say to, "calm down".
nichfra
Reread that quote you're talking about. "The arc of the moral universe is long" So even that quote agrees that it's unlikely that her career is over over this but rather sometime in the future people will agree she is vile.
CallThisAUsername
How about in english now ?
Krossis
Looks like someone hit a nerve on the bot farm
yamsonyamsonyams
Take your meds
parabolic000
whinny? Are we horses now?
datCookieGuy
If we are, I know someone who can get elbow deep in me
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
"Don't you ever" – did she just threaten a member of congress while testifying before congress? Right after lying under oath?
mikemayday
I would have just responded with "Or what?"
bripi
That's nowhere close to a threat, although I understand where you're coming from. A "threat" has to include some sort of retribution or punishment; in this case, there was/is none. That's all she got out. He's still right, and she's still a cunt.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
I agree that it wasn't a legally actionable threat. But from a language perspective, the implied threat was obvious and so was the disrespect and contempt for (Democratic) legislators. If this had been the response of a defendant in a court of law, there would have been a contempt of court charge.
bripi
Agreed on contempt. The committee *has* that power and authority but I think it's chaired by the GOP so hard to get something like that to pass. Bondi was in contempt the whole bloody time and that much was obvious. Schiff (I believe) read off a litany of questions she refused to answer WHICH WAS THE WHOLE POINT of the hearing; that, in its very essence, is the definition of contempt.
Shoutrr
her career ended the moment she entered the government. That is if the fascists stop being in power, until that time comes her career is very safe.
mmmerf1
Scaramucci disagrees.
whereismymind86
she didn't have much of a career before, that's part of why they hired her, she has nowhere to go back to. She was a horrendous lawyer prior to becoming the AG.
Me1iss0
As attorney general of Florida from 2011-2019 she could have reopened the Epstein case, where Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal for child sex trafficking and rape in 2008. He was basically allowed to walk free and anyone who associated with him after that time KNEW who he was and what he was doing.
Trump hired Bondi bc she has a history of looking to other way for child rapists/sex traffickers operating in her communities and she can obviously be paid to lie.
No More Pedo Protectors!!
YpsilantiRomani
Wasn't she the lawyer for the Qatari government
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
He was AG of Florida while Trump University was being sued for fraud and dropped the case after a $25k donation to her reelection fund, and while Epstein was convicted of child sex crimes. Also yes, was a registered lobbyist on behalf of the Qatari Gov to the US Congress afterwards.
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
*she
Shoutrr
if there is an after US totalitarian fascism and a complete overall of the government infrastructure, you guys need to get rid of elected functions such as judges, AG or sheriffs, precisely for the reason that those are more concerned by being elected/reelected than doing their job without being corrupted.
ArcherPointingFromTheComments
Dude you could write an entire book about what needs overhauling here. We're doing what we can. Those of us in the US that are absolutely horrified and fighting ICE in the streets are keenly aware of what led us here. I do appreciate the advice though, If there were some way that I could change things (besides voting and marching and organizing to protect our neighbors) I certainly would.