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Jwhite777
If you've seen the videos, ICE is literally just standing around and taking breaks, not lifting a finger to help TSA at all. Still good advice, but they aren't trained to do TSA work even a little bit
makesense
Any biometric 'password' isn't covered. Use a passcode/PIN.
khaoselement
I will never understand why anybody thought any of this was safe. Y'all really thought tech just DIDN'T because it was moral not to?
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Your body, their choice. Welcome to fascist America
MattDude
Why is the rapper Logic wearing a suit?
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
Face id, lmao, I have never even used the thumb print id, only a 4 digit code and an unlocking pattern. Good luck getting through both of them
Corrodias
Good message, but could he have picked a worse format for the video? It's almost stable enough to see something.
liveOffOfDownVotes
one seizure later, yup can confirm shit format
thedarkcanuck
NO WE NEED IT TO FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS A CRISIS AT ALL TIMES
FeChefImgur
and he is using tiktok to spread a message about privacy/rights :)
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
The only privacy massage on tiktok should be "dont use tiktok"
nomnamless
People use tiktok so that's where he chose to share the message. It seems to be working because there we are on imgur seeing it
Sortros
That's insane. I know countries which considers looking at other peoples phones without permission and hacking into the phone the same. As both instances are done without consent of the owner.
wantedTwo
Rapidly tap the lock button before losing possession of your phone ie placing it in a bin or whatever. This disables Face ID.
cropduster5000
5 clicks on iphone disables faceID, can confirm
TryHardEggplant
You can also hold the lock button and volume up to go to the emergency/SOS screen which also disables FaceID.
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
That is only if they have it set up that way. Mine doesn't do that. But I can hold the power button for 1 second and select lockdown mode.
wantedTwo
I should also point out Face ID is an apple trademark. (Name not technology)
wantedTwo
The google says rapidly pressing the lock button 5 times will activate the emergency SOS screen which will also disable biometrics. Been available since September of 2017.
Whoisthisdoctorwho2000
Such handy advice ro get in 2025....
InnerBushman
MMX2019
For years, it has been standard practice for some companies from the EU to only use "clean" laptops when traveling to the US, and then using VPN and remote desktop tools to access their work data. No data will be stored on the laptops they take with them, so if they should get seized at the border, they can just buy any other device at any electronics store and still attend their work meetings. Same for phones.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
MMX2019
We are not allowed to use US-based services or software from US-based companies that doesn't allow for a full on-premise installation where none of the data leaves our network. This also includes not being able to use any kind of AI tools that use a LLM that is not fully locally, i.e. runs on your machine or on a server in out local net. If it uses anything from the US and transmits data for learning purposes, it will be flagged as a security risk.
Has been standard practice for years now.
2074red2074
Not using any non-local LLMs isn't a US issue. It's the same in most civilized countries. The terms of use of an online LLM is that they can do whatever they want with the data you send them, so any company secrets, private information, etc. is immediately compromised.
MMX2019
Don't know why anybody downvoted you for this, but it appears that a lot of people do not know that artificial intelligence is not intelligent at all, but based on algorithms written by humans with specific intent or under guidelines of the company they work for to server their intent. And can easily exploited by said companies or governments.
By using ai agents with your username and possibly even real data of yours attached, you are effectively giving them all of your private data for free
TheTojo15
Yea I’ve never used that shit nor any biometrics
Judgementalwizard
Fingerprints aren't protected either
Almaadin
Yep, so change your unlock settings before going to a protest. Or dont take a smartphone at all.
bgsteiner
Pro tip. On newer Android versions you can add "Lockdown Mode" to the power menu which locks your phone and disables biometrics, requiring a passcode/word. Also use passwords not pins.
bgsteiner
Also just power off/reboot your phone as that resets some of the usb capabilities and startup encryption so a good bit of their hacking tools become useless.
JStengah
None of your biometric data is. It needs to be information you know for it to qualify for your constitutional right against an unreasonable search. So a password, pin, or pattern. And even then it doesn't mean you can't ever be legally compelled to unlock your phone, just that it can't be done whenever some douche cop wants to go on a fishing expedition through its contents.
jadanks
At least with my old generation iPhone if I hit the power button five times it puts it into lockdown mode disable fingerprint reader. Worth doing that if you ever need to give up your phone.
kerezst
Never knew that! Thanks for telling.
kickahippie
Works on my iphone 13. First it tries to apple pay and then pulls up the power off /emergency call screen. But when you cancel out of that it requires the passcode to re-enable face id
tinyfootprints
Under US law, you can't be forced to use a fingerprint reader nor enter a passcode against your will, but you can't stop them from holding your phone in front of your face.
BladeTurMoiL
My face scanner is exceptionally specific. Wrong angle? Nope.
Wrong expression? Nope.
Face puffy with allergies? Nope.
BladeTurMoiL
Soon: face bruised / bloody from corrupt/hostile government and/or law enforcement? Nope
obijan
WRONG.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/04/cops-can-force-suspect-to-unlock-phone-with-thumbprint-us-court-rules/
tinyfootprints
Read your own link. It says suspects can be forced to provide a thumbprint. Travelers standing in TSA lines are not suspects. And they are not under oath.
obijan
Oh sweet summer child. Did you know that according to the constitution, ICE cannot enter your home without a warrant? Or use teargas? Or grab random citizens?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/05/15/can-border-control-use-face-id-to-unlock-my-phone-what-to-know/83650041007/#
tinyfootprints
Actually, yes. I lived in the DC area for decades and had my share of run-ins with spooks and the like. It doesn't invalidate my point.
MandaloreTheDefiler
I changed mine to password only because of this a year ago
chazahc
In IOS, keep tapping the power button until you get the power off option. This disables biometrics until you use your pin once.
UseTheSource
Android users, please set Lockdown Mode which quickly disables biometric unlock: https://www.androidpolice.com/lockdown-mode-android-explainer/
zufallszahlen
Amazing how the 4th amendment doesn't cover stuff like this but the 2nd was somehow meant to cover any new technology in perpetuity.
Tarmaccian
It’s actually the 5th.
The state is consistently allowed to use and review any evidence that exists and that they have access to, but they can’t compel you to grant access without due process.
Providing a password shows that you know the password… that’s evidence that can’t be compelled, because it might be self-incriminatory. Biometrics aren’t considered incriminatory, so they can be used.
Similarly, combination locks on safes are protected, but not key locks (if the key is accessible).
UseTheSource
Important: at international borders, even that protection is invalid and you can be required to hand over your password.
puppiesandkittiesarethebest
It likely won’t make a difference but I submitted a feature suggestion to Apple about using a voice command like “Hey Siri, ICE has my phone” which would lock out or block any attempts to access the device in a situation such as that. But god damn Face ID is convenient and I like it!
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
They can access your phone through face ID and fingerprints. That's why you should use a pattern or code.
I heard someone say earlier that when they go through airports, they put their sim in an older (non-smart) style phone and just take that with them. That way, if they take the phone and try to copy it, there is nothing there but phone numbers and pointless text messages.
IWouldLickThat
I only just heard about eSIMs yesterday, will they put a stop to such maneuvers?
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
I honestly don't know. It would definitely be something to find out about.
AnOtterDisaster
Asking for a friend, how do you do that?
sjester42
Save all of your contacts to your sim, you get that option or go to your settings and change it. Remove everything else from the Sim and save it on the device. Then just change the SIM. It's the key that unlocks the mobile network and it's all you need.
reichtwinglunatic
do you mean like, how do you buy a dumb phone and put your sim in it? you buy a dumb phone and put your sim in it, i think that about covers it.
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
I had the LG in the middle when it first came out.
BurtChanceTheRapper
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZnJhZmJwMzQ0N3ExbjJyZmF5ZnRkenRwOGFvbDN2YzRrdDBzNmQweSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/vtFZ8O85q8g3MmXK51/200w.webp
homoerection
I’m with Blake on this one. Let’s normalize people being able to ask questions and something new with out the ridicule or shaming
reichtwinglunatic
yeah man, i know you're right but sometimes it's too tempting not to be a sarcastic jerkbag. that's kinda my issue.
homoerection
I absolutely understand.
Blakeadelic
It’s ok for people not to know things and feel safe here asking for help. No need to belittle people as you do often in your comments.
WeMustDissent
In iOS settings there are fairly granular controls for this. You can disable Face ID for unlocking the phone, while still having the convenience of using it to pay, unlock apps, etc. Under settings, search Face ID and Passcode to find it.
req4adream99
People don’t know this? This case was decided back in like 2010.
LoftheDesert
I think if you turn off your phone, it will always ask for a password when turned on again. Though might as well switch to password only.
ToenailClippingsJar
IPhones do at least.
unluckyandbored
Most Androids do as well.
tuxyq
You can quick press the power button 5 times to make it require a passcode
LoftheDesert
For me doing that calls 112 (emergency number)
DarkZalgo
That's a shortcut to calling 911 for me.
enderite
Turned iff my biometrics about a year ago. Just use a code. More secure. And ACAB.
Fuck the police. No matter which uniform they wear.
jmacg
If you hit the power button on an iphone 5 times it locks it, gives you options to make emergency calls and needs the combination to unlock.
OriginalSyn
For Android, holding down the power button for 2 seconds gives you a lockdown option.
medimr
Sounds like the law needs to change such that they require your consent (or a warrant) to go through your shit, and not just the ability to hold the thing up to your face...
lildude52ca
pretty sure other countries do. just that shit hole
trinxter
ICE follows no laws.
somethingnotyettaken
My understanding (as a layman and a foreigner) is they need a warrant to go through stuff unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime or the stuff is in plain view. The phone is in plain view, so they can look at it, and (while doing so) pointing it at your face puts the data in plain view magically so they can then look at that. But it is ridiculous they're not allowed to try and guess your password without a warrant.
somethingnotyettaken
ridiculous that BY COMPARISON they're not allowed to, I mean, since essentially both are them forcing access to the device without your permission, but one is legal.
Isorikk
Haven't been following politics lately, eh?
1stDrunkJoe
The current regime are more likely to declare the 4th amendment unconstitutional. Slaves don't need rights.
EatMyShag
Think the USA has bigger problems than changing that law. If you want to be even remotely capable of changing it, you need to resolve systemic problems - like removing A LOT of CORRUPTED people from power...
DorkJedi
Bojovnik84
What laws....
HillOfBeans
What courts…
BREED09
None of that matters anymore.. its all just to control the poor
scarlettsletters920
What's a god to a non believer
TheDirtySanchezBros
This is the correct answer.
zufallszahlen
Or they could just follow the law instead of making shit up to get around it.
Nuclearun
Technically, *Technically*, this is the law, via precedent. There was a court case, probably more than a decade ago, where a judge decided that, if the police have your fingerprints, then they can unlock your phone if it uses the finger print lock (and of course, if they are holding you and your phone they HAVE your fingerprints). AFAIK this applies to door locks as well, though, obviously, they might need your prints from a prior to just wall into your house.
zufallszahlen
And that's what I meant by making shit up to get around the law. The ruling was wrong and this should clearly be covered by the 4th amendment.
Nuclearun
Agreed, was still working on completing my response.
Nuclearun
PERSONALLY I'm of the opinion that the precedent is wrong, because it basically ignores the *function* of a lock, in favor of the ease of use for law enforcement, and it makes it so that things that would normally be "secured" from anyone (except, made enforcement apparently) are actually "in the open" in thy eyes of the court.
Arbitrarynamehere
It's okay to say that the Supreme Court is an unelected body of senators that write their own policy. They're among the most skilled wordsmiths in the world. They can make anything mean anything else.
TheMoonBnuuy
no biometrics are safe from the 4th amendment. Don't use finger prints either.
Also I use the same pass code on everything, *******
That's weird, I can't type my pass code in... It just comes out as *s. That's pretty neat!
Doobiedog
Rulerthirtywolf69
Ok, but for real, wasn't there an original forum meme about this? I can't remember the password. I want to say wolf42 or fox23 or something......
hudstr
hunter2
rijstewafels
N1cetry
unluckyandbored
Ohh no. I'm not falling for that one again.
Jimthebutler
Largewholebeanswithredsauceanddoritodust
quade
password
How come mine doesn't show as asterisks?
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Huh cool, mine is Buttholes42069
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
He wasn't lying.
Firestar002
Stupid question… can’t we just like… have to make a silly face and have THAT face be our ID? Like a face and PIN number rolled into one?
Like scrunch up your upper lip, extend your lower jaw…
tuxyq
Faceid doesn’t use a photo as reference but a bunch of datapoints, that’s why they work with glasses, beards, new hair styles, Color etc
Firestar002
I had a time where I had to look at my screen a certain way, like looking down at it with an “I’m superior” nose up kinda look. Thought I was onto something.
DarkZalgo
Facial biometrics, just like any biometrics, uses a fuckton of specific data points to recognize you. The facial library my company uses analyzes 106 different data points on your face for example. And it's capable of getting your age, gender, whether you have a beard, mask, glasses, if your eyes are open or closed, it even tells me if you have acne or clear skin or if you're happy/angry/sad/disgusted/afraid.
Firestar002
Damnit. Well like I said, knew it was a stupid idea, just hoped it was stupid enough to work. Because one time I had to tilt my head up at a certain angle to get my Face ID to work. Like I had to look down my nose like Count Dooku’s “I’m superior to you” look.
Welp. Back to the drawing board I guess.
DarkZalgo
The angle is usually configurable. It's actually to prevent it from recognizing you when you aren't deliberately trying to use it. Without that it can recognize you if you aren't even directly facing the camera.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm never visiting the USA
KleptoKea
General concensus in my country is to avoid that Nazi shithole like the plague, and not even transit through it on the way to other countries.
tamfos7
Same.
joleeen
Yep
whatsthisbuttondonow1
I thought it was called pedo land now?
ByteeBandit
I live in NZ, my father recently retired and his bucket list dream is to watch NASCAR on track one day. We had planned to go last season, my first time leaving rhe country and his first time coming to the USA. Then ICE started popping off, and you see I have the indigenous, so I'm caramel brown, and well the old boy turned to me and said we can re write the bucket list. We both feared I would be considered too brown for the American holocaust *ahem* I mean experience
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Im a kiwi too. My kids have a spanish/Italian complexion due to the indigenous on their mother's side. I would get killed by ICE protecting my kids, but by christ I would kill more of them before I went down. I would do a haka on their necks.
yamsonyamsonyams
By your username i thought you were a fan
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
It was meant as satire back in 2015. Turned out to be a well predicted fact
woodworkerf
DO NOT VISIT THE USA! FULL STOP!
Stinkybuttpants
It’s a “shithole” country
feelymcfeel
I planned on going back to see friends. Not anymore.
2074red2074
This isn't that unusual, unfortunately. What country are you from?
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
New Zealand
GloveFullaVaseline
There is nothing to visit here in the US. There are some pretty places but not like new fuckin zealand. If I were from most any other country, I would never come here.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Yep NZ is great. Although I would like to see yellow stone
2074red2074
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/03/asia/new-zealand-customs-passwords-intl
KleptoKea
Typical fragile American. Someone thinks your country's a shithole (it is), and you demand to know the country of the critic. Then go Google the first negative thing you can find about that country. That reeks of insecurity. The worst you could find about NZ was an article from almost a decade ago that's no longer describing the status quo. Maybe you and your people should grow a spine and stop bowing to your child-raping Nazi that you put in your whitehouse twice, instead of censoring critics.
Lutki
Dude the whole conversation was around airport security/immigration not respecting individuals privacy and showed it is something their government also does. Also it is the status quo, it was ruled that it is legal for police to compel people to unlock their phones using finger/face id without warrant. https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2018/4/en/latest/#DLM7038955
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
That's crazy. First time I've heard of a fine. I have seen TV shows about nz and Australian customs where they check phones. It's usually people that come on a tourist visa but intend to work.
KleptoKea
Hey mate, fellow kiwi here. That article is eight years old. The American did what so many of them do when they get triggered by a foreigner who thinks USA is anything short of hot shit. They ask what country the person is from and Google the first bad thing they can find about it and claim you have to come from a perfect country before you can have an opinion about theirs. It's to our credit that the worst this petty American could find was an article from almost decade ago.