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SlappySamsonite
Obvious plot is obvious.
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NomadUniverse
Hang on...who watched this when it came out and DIDN'T think it was about that?!
ItSeemsYouHaveSufferedaTerribleFate
Realize? Like it was hidden? LMAO some people really at this dense though.
mynamPlanetGod
Thats like extremely obvious. They blatantly spell it out the entire movie lol
nam8y
I don't know about you OP but I realized that *while* I watched the movie. I mean, what other interpretation is there?
DarthFutuza
Human military technology is superior compared to bows and arrows? /s
YeOldeImgurian
Except apparently not? An interstellar ground force was bodied by super-arrows. Which is dumb.
AvsFreak
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is...
AvsFreak
James Cameron!
Curadh
Perfect comment break is perfect.
mycatToastwasafatasshole
How the hell could you mistake it for anything else? Its the biggest "white savior" movie there is.
ITellBadPuns
Here, I got a handy plot synopsis right here :D
TorrentialUpPour
Now replace the proper nouns in the Dances With Wolves script with the proper nouns from Pocahontas.
ITellBadPuns
Yeah it's a pretty overdone story. Avatar was basically just a tech demo with the most bare-bones story imaginable though, so it makes sense
5knotcans
Marketed to you by an evil corporation.
HamSlamwich
It was buried so deeply, way to dig out that buried message. Truly a dizzying intellect.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I found it annoying because the plot was super predictable. At the same time though, this plot will keep getting re-made OVER AND OVER
ThrowAwayAcct0000
until maybe we learn a lesson from it, instead of shrugging our shoulders, because corporations keep doing this shit OVER AND OVER.
pretendthisisagoodusername
You mean the most expensive movie in history lesson was 'greed is bad'?........
HOOMANGUY
Are you internet explorer?
zenprime
KaijuMcCitysmash
Yeah that and American imperialism
RabeMeansRaven
How long did it take you to realize that was the plot of the movie?
edgeman
Are you asking when? I think it was like 15 minutes into the movie at most
Mack1986
The movie was so fucking ham fisted about that message this meme is only for people so dense they can't read anyway
TheRealArclight
it was blatantly obvious....
Yearofthelynx
BonIvermectin
Filthy blue Keebler eleves better give up that Unobtanium peaceably
ralphie84
Newfact: They were happy to help
OperationRustysBlanket
Unobtanium is such a dumb name.
Bestiarium
Why? The term is often used in engineering for thought experiments and hypothetical scenarios. As a scientist myself (a biologist), I think
Bestiarium
we would definitely call a superconducting mineral like that something like unobtanium. Scientists love giving silly names to stuff. For
Bestiarium
example, one of the newly discovered finger proteins (named that way because of the shape) is called the Really Interesting New Gene, or
Bestiarium
RING finger protein for short. There's even a species of Tardigrada named after a Jojo Stand.
OperationRustysBlanket
I would have preferred they used the term Hardtofindenite in the movie Dances With Ferngully.
33Fox
Uh, that was never unclear? Also the movie is still overrated as hell and has a real "white savior" problem plot.
PooPculture
As Lil Dickey said: How the fuck a human being wanna fuck a blueish green 7' 3'' tail-havin'-ass thing?
Lompaksetgom
MAC.
ElbowdeepinElmo
Hey, if the 7'3" tail-having-ass thing is sentient and willing, who am I to say no?
ExtremeCowEnthusiast
The movie had the sublty of a brick. It also made sure to keep in the white savior stuff too!
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munkeyninja
Was naming the mineral UNOBTAINIUM not subtle enough for you?!?!?
SuspiciousCactus
"White savior" is a great way to make sure you can be outraged either way, if they do nothing or do something, wrong. Gotta cover all bases.
meme2theextreme
What, just because the valuable, rare element was called unobtanium?/s
TacTheScribbler
I personally just loved the worldbuilding. I sometimes rewatch for the plants and animals.
Bestiarium
I agree! A lot of thought was put into the organisms of Pandora and I really like that. There's also a book 'Avatar: activist's survival
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guide' I think it was called, with further details about the creatures and plants (and some other worldbuilding chapters about the Navi
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and the RDA). As a biologist and huge sucker for worldbuilding, I really enjoyed it!
aChungusAmongUs
Fern Gully did it first
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FeaEl2EIDmHE0U%2F200.gif&f=1&nofb=1
xmaneds
@OP you should definitely check out ferngully https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104254/
Nobahdi
*Dances with Wolves
aChungusAmongUs
Oh shit… Dances With Wolves = 1990. Fern Gully = 1992
Like2Fox
Pocahontas
madeyoulookXD
Its beat for beat space dances with wolves.
EbuneezerSplewdge
It literally is and this should be more upvoted that the top comment
EbuneezerSplewdge
*than, fuck
Like2Fox
It is, yeah. I'm just adding to the list off similar concepts
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
And I thought Avatar was just another movie about how the "primitive savages" cant be saved without the magical white savior. Which is quite
kaarbaakimgr
You don’t need the quotes.
MangOpana
My film professor described Avatar as ripping off Dances with wolves, which ripped off of Pocahontas; thus, he called it “space Pocahontas”
fennecbutt
Sigh
Emulen
Sudden urge to watch dances with wolves
TiredSnowball
I think it's also about getting a "spy/ally" from the opposing side, and using that info to fight back.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
That would feel more relevant if the guy wasn't then integral in their retaliation.
AndroidSoul
Yeah, if the white guy was tactics and support instead of THE CHOSEN ONE who unites the tribes it might scan a bit different
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Ugh that would have been such a better movie...
TiredSnowball
Avatar is just a cheesy forgettable eye candy. The story is meh, but watching it in IMAX was really nice and pretty experience.
keystotheairlock
Ah yes the "they're bad whitey, I'm GOOD whitey, we'll beat them with our new found interracial friendship<3<3<3."
Se7enPr1me
Crazy how racism inspires racism
967Evil
...inspires Racist Recessivism
Curadh
To a degree, that's how it has to work. Those with the power need to help those without. It's one thing Marx got right.
967Evil
Groucho Marx?
MrRandom314159
(So long as you recognize me as one of you and also your undisputed ruler.)
PuppyDontCare
That's why I hate celebrating independence day as a Latin American. It's like when people celebrate that there's a new CEO at the company
MissRepresented
"I'm whitey, and I apologize"
Se7enPr1me
My take away; avatar should also be a lesson about the division of the native american tribes. If they had actually united, they wouldve won
Se7enPr1me
The thing that most people dont think about is that the natives lost this land because they were a divided and warring people
Se7enPr1me
Facts. Dislike all you want.
TheFoxxWitch
I mean. We also had guns. So.
Se7enPr1me
Guns that shot a round a minute with terrible accuracy vs the much more precise and cheaper bow and arrow, spear and axe.
CaptainSomebody
Saying 'facts' doesn't mean it's true, go find some sources, back it up instead of dying on a hill of nothing but your opinion.
BabyBumbleBee3
Not really. It's a complicated issue so it's difficult to really point to any one reason, but it wasn't just a matter of "They Didn't Unite"
Se7enPr1me
But if they had they would outnumber the invaders 100-1 or even greater. There were MILLIONS across north america.
SensitiveShiori
as opposed to the warring invaders who killed off 90% of them? 55million native Americans died. it was genocide.
TheFeigningNinja
The majority of native deaths were from small pox, the Europeans literally couldn’t have done anything to save them.
SensitiveShiori
they also Slaughtered who were left alive. millions of them.
Se7enPr1me
Yeah the europeans developed alot of immunities to deseases the natives had never been exposed to. This is not anyones fault.
feedthelynx
You're not wrong that they were divided and warring; but they were never 'one people', that was the entire reason why they were divided
Se7enPr1me
There was a time when europe was broken into primitive tribes too. Till they united into one people, advanced technologically and expanded
darkdragonempress
Just to point out 3 very important things. 1. Europe is still very broken and was way more broken back then. 2. It was a weird set of 1
feedthelynx
Where on earth did you get that idea that Europe United and expanded? What time period/leader/so on were you thinking of?
feedthelynx
Europe has united a handful of times, never expanded cause of it. Roman empire got most of Europe (Mediterranean though, not euro-centric),
Janeator
It's true, but I said it's quite intentional in this case to make you emphathize with them.
Janeator
I think*
paintingagency
It's also that.
Like2Fox
Ah, the "white savior complex" in Hollywood
TobiFuenke
I mean, Jesus was white, god is white. Just check out their portraits.
Like2Fox
I like that someone downvoted your comment
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
to be fair, in the era we live in, his post could be equally serious or sarcastic and mocking.
vioveo
Just once I would like to see a picture where Jesus actually looked Jewish.
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
an old narrative in media.
SensualMeatball
DulothX
Dances with Wolves: Alien edition.
Flapjackal
Pretty sure they were all blue by the end
madeyoulookXD
Hell avatar was just dances with wolves with a moustache on. Beat for beat the same movie
PoorBoyChevelle
Fern Gully but instead of smaller, bigger.
EvPointMaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58tU0JbgMGs
TweakerTheBarbarian
Pocahontas in Space
BORGALOOGIE
*Fern Gully in Space
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TacoPoweredHelicopter
Space earth is.
Twinklepot
Space Indians (well they had Space Cowboys)
Seethreepeeoh
Only *some* people called them that
quietwalker
https://youtu.be/PFc6Xh31za8
bigguywhokills
FailedCrate
Pocahontas crossbred with the Smurfs, on acid. Boring shit, shit movie btw..
LTareyouserious
Last Samurai, Last of the Mohicans, list goes on. It's like a trope or something.
dohcohv
Dances with wolves in space
Zuir
Princess Mononoke in space
ThereWillBeDownvotes
Dances with Smurfs
newworldtraveller
Fern Gully in space
EverNotRelevant
Dune in space... (Wait a second...)
ralphie84
But without the drugs
certainlynotaserialkiller
some drugs
tomroadrunner87
Dune is criticizing that type of narrative, actually. Paul isn't the hero, not by a longshot. Even Paul knows it, lol
Movietimeme
I’ve only read the first book and watched the now 2 movies. Is this a character development in the later novels? I’ve always heard this.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
I thought the new movie made it pretty clear how terrifying Paul's 'destiny' is. An interstellar crusade. They aren't too subtle about it.
tomroadrunner87
Even in the first book, at multiple points Paul sees that he's going to tear the galaxy to pieces. He tries to fix it and makes things worse
Seethreepeeoh
What, did you think it was about before now??? Clapping blue giant cheeks?
DianNaoChong
White savoir complex
VeryLongTimeLurker
Yes... 100% yes.
CaldariBob
Yep, big-budget furry sex.
ninjamaster57
Furry sex is always big budget
EXTREMEDRAGONDICKS
This is true.
jukkz
You mean it's not!?
relsky
It's both.
rareunicornmeat
I can learn two things thank you very much.
ITellBadPuns
A dude betraying his friends to get a working spine and some hot alien ass.
StarSumiaki
Here I thought it was white savior propaganda with a side of clapping blue cheeks.
JustAPileOfCats
Sacred land first. Clapping cheeks second.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Like we needed another story about that. We already had the Smurfs.
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
Hrafna55
Yeah. It wasn't subtle with the metaphor's.
IDidntWantToSignUpForImgur
It can and should be both, damnit
filben7
DrSirSexyLegs
Marine with jungle fever
danielsan1977
Correction: Clapping giant blue cat-people cheeks.
CaldariBob
Furry sex!
Cranbananarama
I thought it was about smurfs.
JarJarBinksKisser
blue alien snu-snu. IM JUST SAYIN
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
What else happened in that movie?
TheElusiveEnchilada
UrsaPsi
Dances with wolves in space
Seethreepeeoh
In fairness, Costner only *danced* with the wolves.
AsidRayne1245
Why not both!?!
Ryanator50
it's like saying that the matrix is actually about how our dependence on technology will eventually destroy us.
GravityOtter
wiltsjunk
Yeah seriously
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Chances are OP was like 10 when they first saw Avatar
cryborg
Making shepherd's pie
realGeorgelucas
With an Unobtainium topping... just like mam used to make.
Lompaksetgom
MAC.
HedonistBeard
Well there's versions that are definitely about that. Even a special fleshlight in blue.
Seethreepeeoh
Like throwing a sausage down a corridor
xizar
Isn't everything? Have you seen Mary Poppins?
TheUnstoppableWampas
Tree tentacle sex.
zkimbler
This
SuperBeetle76
Don’t forget plugging your fleshy USB cable to control dragon ride.
Falkh12
of course it was! There were even several explicit... I might have watched the wrong Avatar...
IconicM
I'm pretty sure that was the B plot.
wisher1977
Blue monkeys fucking actually.
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
*clapping blue giant ponytails.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
yeah, it was… not subtle
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Jake literally refers to the Navi as “the natives”
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
i think at one point one of the characters actually says “this evil corporation is invading and exploiting our sacred land”
SenfinaZeit
How mech suits are bad ass
JaimeLannistersRightHand
I mean, isn't that what humans do? Find a new species, try and put our dicks in it...
TheHiddnOne
Seek help, Shepard
LeftRightThere
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
...no? Jesus what have you been up to??
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
I politely disagree with your 100% wrong opinion.
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Jesus doesn't come here anymore...
BrokeMyFunnyBone
Cause he found new species to come in
4vie
Take a guess why not
DarthGoodguy
pgdave
The holes in his hands and feet raise some interesting implications...
JaimeLannistersRightHand
It's why he won't come anymore... He felt dirty
ilovedogknots
Nothing
DarthGoodguy
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Sigh, yes: little bitch rides big cock.