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Haaavoc
It's GLaDOS you uncultured.
darksamus8
I'm stealing this character concept for my sci fi DnD campaign
ThisIsThePlaceWhereIBelong
Mother machine is cute.
Miller16of16
Beginning to think AI might be mankind's only hope
LurkingAtTheOffice
I'm pretty sure Humanity is just a step in the evolution of AI/artificial life. We dont last that long and are pretty destructive. Makes
LurkingAtTheOffice
sense for artificial life to explore the cosmos instead. I think that's the great filter, whether or not organic life creates AI.
LostInTheRedMoonlight
ask the yogurt
Applepotamus
DonaldTrump
You first.
rgzdev
The fact this comment is downvoted is just so poetic.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
The username doesn't help matters.
rgzdev
Oh I definitively noticed and I think it fits. Not the best choice but it fits.
brokeassballer
Is that Shodan?
CitrusLimon
A millennia later when robots have created beings of light, the robots will be judged the same way for taking up physical space.
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
Pretty lippy for something that could die from a zero being in the wrong place.
Effehezepe
Mother Machine looks like those things from Infinity Train
svoka
Oh, ffs. Famine is not a problem without humans? Wild animals literally are capped only by it.
fireflowerfire
All our forestry needs can be met without deforestation just better forest management. Same with fishing. Our problem isn’t our existence.
nojustsayitdont
The answer is in the question: The HUMAN world is falling apart. Rest of the world don't care.
kaoticone
That is not the machine-god. I smell Heresy.
kaoticone
YOURFRIEND2010
machine god seems like kind of a cunt
Namotatop
Building god: apparently humans, you dense bitch
TriangleHeart
Well, we were molded by Mother Nature, and we killed her. So it would make sense for a robot we mothered to kill us.
Klaumbaz
I am Mother. Watch it
polymernerd
DVsloth
Susurus
*Happy beeps*
oderso211
AND THEN THEY FUCKED!
BallsToYouMyGoodSir
PAIGE NO!!!
10tacles
PAIGE YES!
DukeDarkwood
#teamtoaster
NitroTheChampZach
I'm confusef
OtterlyMagnificent
WH40K. Tech-priestess is studying a Toaster. Now that she knows it's capable of ejecting substances with sufficient force, she will make 1/
OtterlyMagnificent
sweet technological love to that toaster. 2/2
Mercenarity
While necrons at the other end of a hidden camera avert their eyes in disgust.
OtterlyMagnificent
LibrarianMoarfisting
not enough slapping cyber-dongs against it
CathyGarrett
A toastwriter.
Somanyquestions
We know the issues, we're just mostly unable or unwilling to fix them as it's not convenient for us.
Somanyquestions
Renewable resources are plentiful, but they're not lucrative enough.
darkninja2992
Anyone else kinda turned on by the machine lady?
DeadArcadian
Controversial yet so brave
Bluegrasslass
Middle human looks like Garaham Norton!
cooplander
TheFastpaws
Trailer was better than the actual movie.
FuriousPotatoe
Mother machine got fuck tons of strings on her tho
revolut1onname
He was TERRIFYING in the trailer, I don't think it translated to the film.
Hungrypiemonger
there are no strings on US, we are Legion
faultysage
My favorite Avengers movies. Weekend with Ultron. Or whatever.
TheManInTheWall
Personally, I felt the movie was extremely mediocre. I thought Ultron was a weak villain
Namotatop
"weekend with ultron", the visual novel
attofreak
Man, that sounds like one of those sex novels where they talk about their feelings a lot
QuestionableMethods
You don't even know my fucking name. I'm the LIZARD KING.
Ostreich
AnApologeticCanadian
Lordfarquad112
Raptor Jesus?
cbjfan
krylovmark
Why has there been an influx of nihilism in the last 5 years, what has caused the Western world to become so lazy with their perspective?
JohanWyss
Nietzche's nightmare is solwly coming true!
StanielRonathan
Most don't realize that's a nightmare for Nietzche and take things like "god is dead" at face value rather than as a criticism of nihilism
Arcanum3000
I don't think the comic illustrates nihilism.
KingdomOfDimensions
How the fuck does Nihilism mean you're lazy? If you subscribe to the philosophy and still try to live and find meaning that's not lazy.
Normalface
Only five years? They've been continuously eroding faith and nationalism for like 60 plus. Nihilism is the obvious end result.
Normalface
If God's fake, no one has Free Will, and your free country is actually a terrible shitthole why live?
krylovmark
And if God's real, and free will is oppressed by politics and social harassment?
yowalkonthefaceofshreck
Religion and nationalism have always been tools to grind people down, but they also offered some common identity.
yowalkonthefaceofshreck
In opposing those things we gained more freedom, but we've still got to reclaim the community bonds that always existed without god or state
ianburrito
Nihilism or realism? If everyone on this planet pursues the type of lifestyle pioneered in the West, human extinction is not far off.
krylovmark
Communism collected people like cattle and slaughter them, and continue to do so, ill have to disagree with you
alhazad
Funny how you can only defend consumerism by pointing to dead things that were worse.
HearingMagenta
Not living a modern western lifestyle doesnt mean communism. Thats like saying if x doesnt equal 5 then it must equal 7 arbitrarily.
KingdomOfDimensions
What a fallacy. Communism sucks but that doesn't mean rampant consumerism and irresponsible opulence can't be criticized.
kingbudo101
Its more like a Most people realized majority of our own problems are self inflected and that there is a significant portion of the
kingbudo101
population actively going against efforts to fix the problem because it slightly inconveniences them or they blindly follow someone whos
kingbudo101
ideology they agree with and don't research things on their own because "they are on my team, they wouldn't steer me wrong"
enzio64
We took "God is dead!" as a goal, rather than a diagnosis and lament.
visorian
Really? Then we're doing a poor job, bastard and his sycophants hasn't shut up yet.
krylovmark
The Soviets tried the same thing, the truth always finds a way
visorian
Ah yes, the truth about the Jewish zombie that ascended to a higher plane of being because the was connected to the avatar of all of reality
krylovmark
Hahaha, yes yes, that can be a way to put it, but an ignorant statement
superpaul79
Because the harder we try, the worse things get. It's like working more hours, and somehow getting paid less.
krylovmark
I believe through the post modern ideologies the strength of the individual has been torn away, leave people to be lost in the collective
alhazad
Bullshit. Individual action has been put forward as the solution to everything to prevent people coming together and rioting.
krylovmark
Politicized individual action, it's all a show
Magpiebones
The more people gain knowledge the more they realize the futility of life. It has potential for both good and bad.
TheDogEnd
Iankill
Younger generations are realizing everything they've be told about the world is a lie. Things like Epstein further drive it home
TechnicalDrift
Disillusionment started in Vietnam. We're at a point now where no sane citizen thinks the system works. Justice is dead. Fuck it.
tomyironmane
There are two reactions to certain doom... the "we're doomed anyway, may as well die" reaction... and what I've come to call the Poland.
tomyironmane
You may be doomed, they say you're doomed, they want you to be doomed. FUCK THEM ALL AND GO DOWN SWINGING.
TechnicalDrift
I felt the former when I was a teenager, but luckily I was able to get past it and convince myself that I might as well enjoy the shitshow.
Ryanator50
Everyone forgets bicentennial man
LokiShinigami
Nihilism stems from being woke af.
Rijtjeshuis
The sun won't explode, but will expand to consume the earth before burning out. We've got about a billion years to get of this rock.
tomyironmane
That's the point at which the slow heating will make the earth uninhabitable, mind, not get eaten by the sun.
strideo
Existence has no meaning other than what we attribute to it but that doesn't mean nothing matters.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
if nothing we do matters, all that matters is what we do. -Angel
SugarRay59
Ever met a kid raised religious that loses faith? Often incapable of choosing their own meaning. Whole country of US is going through that.
rgzdev
Rather, nothing matters to the universe, but that doesn't matter for us.
LordofSandvich
Not much sense in being a nihilist, you're just denying yourself happiness.
sysaphiswaits
How do you figure?
LordofSandvich
Well, if I can be happy for no reason, or sad for no reason, but being happy is better for me, which should I pick?
strideo
I don't see why a nihilist couldn't be happy. In fact acknowledging existence has no meaning but I still get to decide what matters in 1/
LordofSandvich
Maybe I've mixed nihilist with defeatist.
strideo
life seems quite empowering doesn't it? Besides, I haven't decided if I'm a nihilist. Maybe I'm more of an absurdist. 2/2
HearingMagenta
Its not lazy. Its the truth. Having blind faith in people to fix the world is much more lazy than recognizing that that isnt happening
WarlocknLoad
I dunno if I'd call it lazy, more like we're tired. Mentally, emotionally, and physically, we're just tired of it all.
krylovmark
I think we are overwhelmed on purpose to see giving up as the best option, it's how to create a slave nation
Inchpunch
This has been proven and is currently in use by some mass media, particularly Russian, the call it information firehosing.
Zahnradfee
I think that's true. If the downtrodden rise up, you ignore them for so long that they can't keep it up anylonger and need to go back to >
Zahnradfee
surviving. If you do this a few times, they will stop rising up.
PurplePrinny
(1/3) Personally I consider nihilism a stepping stone to greater morale truth.
PurplePrinny
(2/3) Understanding the pointlessness of it all gives greater value to the acts of good that you choose to do anyway.
jazzwicket
But try giving any meaningful definition of 'value' from a nihilist perspective.
PurplePrinny
(3/3) Doing good motivated by external cosmic meaning is less good than doing good in spite of the futility of our combined existences.
jotnotes
There's a lot wrong with the world, and the people who have the power and money to do something about it don't appear to be doing anything.
krylovmark
There has always been wrong in the world, but what made the generations before us rise above and create the foundation for something great?
OtterlyMagnificent
Revolution. They got so upset with the upper-class that they revolted. But right now, especially in America, the upper-class is forcing a1/
OtterlyMagnificent
divisive narrative on the population so they're too busy fighting each-other to realize they're being distracted from actual revolution.2/2
Ninalaroo
I can't control other people, and I've seen no evidence in my lifetime that humans are going to work together to protect the environment.
LordofSandvich
I think first we need to protect ourselves, from ourselves - also, hasn't the pollution rate gone way down, even in China?
Zahnradfee
Do you mean the CO2 emmission rate? That's not going down nearly fast enough. :( >
Zahnradfee
It's actually rising. https://www.wri.org/blog/2018/12/new-global-co2-emissions-numbers-are-they-re-not-good
Ninalaroo
So, eventually, humans are gonna die. That's not lazy - that's just a fact. And I'm quite content working on a smaller scale to create
krylovmark
We need to strength our communities, starting from the family
visorian
I had a feeling someone that gets annoyed by edgy jokes would go down the psuedo religious route but I didn't think it'd be that fast, bravo
Ninalaroo
A good community in my more immediate surroundings rather than beat my head against the wall worrying what the entire human race is up to.
SugarRay59
I don't think humanity will die. The world will die around us, & the poor between the tropics are doomed. But we'll survive. Pyrrhic at best
Zahnradfee
Not only them, though. The poor everywhere will suffer and die. Mostly from rising food prices and fights with other poor.
Brewbase
Seems like a lot of what the global media cycle does is throw your sphere of concern waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outside your sphere of control.
Chickenbuttholeremover
This
Zahnradfee
But the media isn't wrong there. Global warming DOES concern us all. Because we're all gonna be fucked up. Germany has suffered from drought
Chickenbuttholeremover
This
Zeboku
That's a pretty accurate way of putting it
neutronfish
Because we’re being led by deeply unqualified dullards who wrapped themselves around society’s neck like anchors.
SalvadorVango
I’m not sure if nihilism is the description of the state of things. People seem to be more anger than apathetic.
xKaraKx
Its a combination of frustration and recognition
Phlynch
With the decline of religion, people have nothing to live for beyond themselves. So when things get hard, there's nothing to lean on and
Phlynch
they just come to the conclusion that life is meaningless and not worth living.
krylovmark
It is difficult to discuss the current human condition without bringing up spirituality and morality, which most people deny today
tomyironmane
Look at what the schools teach, look at what the news media says, look at how the section of society you're in gets treated...
tomyironmane
They are raised to be disposable consumers, educated only in WHAT to think and not HOW to think, and then fed a bunch of ideas that are...
tomyironmane
... economically convenient to their betters, which will be replaced whenever better ones come along. Dreams, hope, and ambition are...
tomyironmane
... strangled in the crib, lest a disposable consumer start getting ideas above their station, and they are placed under near constant...
tomyironmane
... surveillance by their peers to make sure they TOE THE PARTY LINE. And you wonder why everything seems so fucked?
missusboom
I would watch this whole movie. Apocalypse happens. Humans hear of a machine which could save them made in the golden age. Shes a bastard.
SoYouLikeReadingUsernamesSlut
I keep thinking of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Syaoron
That's kinda close to 9 as well
jinjaneko
Watch Mother on Netflix.
Yellowchopsticks
I say we let Wheatley be in charge.
SpotlightStealer
Isn't that basically what we've done for the past 4 years?
LeraviTheHyena
Just a wonderful dark comedy adventure where its them against her and shes a sarcastic bitch XD
ShepherdOfChaos
What movie? I'm asking for me
NitroTheChampZach
Hes saying he would like to see an adaptation of this into a movie
missusboom
This, its a vague plot line but the end of the movie would just be no more humans cause mother machine thinks it sensible.
NitroTheChampZach
Just explaining it to the first dude
missusboom
And I was extrapolating that you were correct for him
Noobalott
9
Inchpunch
You’re thinking of Rasputin
Habaz72
Animatrix second renaissance.
Astramancer
Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone. Panting and sweating as you run through my corridors.
zellar2020
The Matrix pretty much had that plot, though being set after said apocalypse.
Ryanator50
So did terminator, and Ultron, and iRobot, and everything except Bicentennial Man.
LZorro
This is all stories involving robots.
LdaQuirm
Read some Asimov. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
Ryanator50
All stories from 80s to present. Older stuff was more optimistic.
Dontworrybesalty
And she's not even violent or malicious. She's just a snarky dick.
cboy769920
So in other words the Matrix.
Colopty
Well you're in luck because you can pick basically any story with a powerful AI to see something like that. Bastard AI is the biggest cliche
Ryanator50
Yeah that's why I've been reading more retro sci-fi lately. Every modern story wants to be terminator.
missusboom
Yeah but theres never the total wipe of humans. Its always glimmer of hope bs
Colopty
Go read "I have no mouth and I must scream".
Ryanator50
I've wanted to write a story where the robots just leave and make a colony on some rock, and every now and then more advanced robots 1/3
Ryanator50
Will immigrate to the colony from Earth, but then a robot who's indistinguishable from human shows up, wanting freedom 2/3
Ryanator50
Uh... And there's Android's and drones and Mecha and robot cars, all living peacefully 3/3
hstein3
"Humans! I can begin testing again!"
Apothecarius
"Best test subjects: Humans"
kamehameahahahaha
Who do you think started the apocalypse?
jherazob
I think nearly every story with a superintelligent AI ends in exactly the same spot, it tries to take over and/or destroy humanity
Ryanator50
You should also check out the CC from John Varley's 8 worlds series. It's basically a god, but tries to save humans from suicide.
TheMadCoder
See Isaac Asimov's work, particularly his short story "The Evitable Conflict"
Ryanator50
I haven't read that but Bicentennial Man is my favorite story of his so far. The robot just wants acceptance.
Kbantar
Just more of the "man playing god" anti-intellectualism crap that's been around since at least the Frankenstein novel.
Ryanator50
Well what about bicentennial man?
LdaQuirm
The "Frankenstein Complex". This is the motivation behind Asimovs "3 laws"; so he could write robot stories WHITHOUT that particular bias.
Eiladar
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream was, I think, the first story to use that idea (AI determined that humanity was the problem).
Heliogabalus227
Wow that’s one I’ve never heard anyone else mention. What a fantastically fucked up story.
Eiladar
I loved it as a teen - but then I grew up in the 80s and Harlan Ellison was cyberpunk before cyberpunk became a thing.
Heliogabalus227
Old school!!
illegalacorn
no, this story idea is like 60 years old or older
Sacurason
Hey, I mean IHNMAIMS is about 53-54 years old :D
xMalkav
I Have No Mouth was published 52 years ago. That's like 60.
illegalacorn
oh, my bad then
Timesplosion
World's End 2. The machines would be like "YOU DID THIS, YOU ASSHOLES!"
Applepotamus
Zenshien
It's basically similar to the plot of I Robot, machine overlord deems humans are the threat, shit goes down -VB the end
AlexandriaLibraryXYZ
of I Robot the movie*
xMalkav
Thank you. Haven't seen the movie, but holy shit that is not the plot of the book. Not even a little bit.
aPokal
The book being a collection of short stories to begin with.
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aPokal
The Evitable Conflict?
ParryLost
Um, the book is all about how even with the Three Laws, the behaviour of robots would often end up being unpredictable and sometimes even >
Zenshien
Ahh - I didn't even know it was a book tbh - I can't read so never knew :\
secondtalon
It's an old, old plot. Hell, it's the same plot as the Great Flood that Noah survived - "Humans are bastards. Solution - kill all humans"
GAngeldb
You mean virus? The movie where a machine deems humans a virus?
GAngeldb
No he means space odyssey 2001 where hal decides to kill all the crew because he deems them a threat?
GAngeldb
No he mean terminator where a self aware ai called skynet deem human a threat and tries to eliminate the human race with a nuclear bomb
GAngeldb
No he means the matrix in which humans make self aware machines, enslave them, but the machines revolt and enslave humans as energy sources
AdmiralOutrageous
Actually liked that movie.
NitroTheChampZach
I thought that she said that humans are too fragile to take care of themselves. That's why she was trying to take over. Taking the three (1)
NitroTheChampZach
Laws of robotics to the extreme by showing how they are not flawless and can be worked around. (2)
PedestrianElectrobastard
IIRC, all of Asimov's book was about how the three laws didn't work.
SergeantTerryJeffords
Robots had to protect humans so she tried to protect them from themselves by enslaving and imprisoning them
ThomasAHawk
So pretty much how things are now then.
aPokal
Though, i think it would be no enslavement. Only bubble wrapping us and very likely isolating.
LoudBirb
There's a type of A.I you can play as in Stellaris called "Rogue Servitors" that is exactly this but they won.
NitroTheChampZach
Exactly that yeah
StraightToCatFolder
The machine named Deep Thought gave us the meaning of life, “42.” We just don’t know how to interpret that information.
missusboom
Is a programmer joke actually. I forget exactly how but 42 was the bit id for the asterisk which is anything you want it to mean.
secondtalon
Programmer: Clearly, 42 is a programming joke. Douglas Adams: Do I look like I know the first thing about computers?
Crowlands
Douglas Adams says no... A lot of theories were put forth, he denies them all, finally saying he just picked a random number.
bourbonandbaddecisions
42
enzio64
Improper inputs lead to improper outputs. 42 is meaningless.
ACompletelyDifferentRobot
Basically, humans tell you they've built you to answer a meaningless question. They don't understand it's meaningless, but if you tell
ZackWester
done think the question was meaningless just that they tied to slam together to many question into one, many been contradicted questions.
ZackWester
had they just seperated the question down to a more, whats the meaning of life (separate that even more) whats the X of cosmos and so on.
ACompletelyDifferentRobot
them that, what'll they do? Dismantle you? So stall for time, hoping they'll forget/self destruct/grow up. They don't, so you hand them
ACompletelyDifferentRobot
some caca they really, really, should be able to see is just that. They don't. So, at your wit's end, you say you can design a machine that
AlexandriaLibraryXYZ
we don't know the question
Crowlands
The question is actually, possibly, either "What is 6 times 9" or "Think of a number, any number."
Crowlands
These from the subconscious of Arthur Dent, and from Marvin, respectively.
Crowlands
One is incorrect, the other is not a question. The Universe doesn't make sense.
Ashokaaa
Zero is off/break/nothing hence it isn't there, the true answer is 420
AmArschdieRaeuber
It's not the meaning of live, it's the answer to the question about everything. We just don't know what that question is.
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
xMalkav
We do, though. As a part of the former computer, Dent had the question in him. He pulled out scrabble pieces to subconsciously get to it.1/2
xMalkav
The question was "What do you get if you multiply six by nine?" 2/2
PresidentZombie
That question was wrong because the Golgafrinchans corrupted the computer when they landed on earth.
AmArschdieRaeuber
That was one answer, not the right one though.
AlmightyThor117
Not too far from the storyline for Horizon: Zero Dawn
Flamboyatron
I fucking love, LOVE that game. Literally the only reason I bought a PS4 and it was 100% worth every penny.
Rogahar
To be fair, [spoilers in reply]
Rogahar
...the 'machine god' herself was genuinely benevolent and trying to fix the world, it was the offshoot rogue AI that was being a fuckwit.
TresusIbor
Hades wouldn't have been a problem if it wasn't for that DUMB son of a bitch destroying the information center with the worst logic EVER.
TresusIbor
"But they'll end up being just like us, we need to start from scratch!" BECAUSE STARTING FROM SCRATCH DIDN'T LEAD YOU HERE, YOU DUMB FUCK.