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TIL it's legal to hunt schoolkids, apparently
Truth in comments.
Mar 30, 2018 5:20 PM
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Truth in comments.
Cranbananarama
Wait, it's illegal to hunt children? I have to go check something unrelated.
Irreal
Only if you don't have a permit. Just go to your nearest police station and ask.
N04hTheSheep
But I thought shooting people was also illegal in America?
killer10347
When peoples' emotions rise up, their argument quality drops by an equal amount.
equityforpunks
There's something about politics nowadays that I cannot quite right put my finger on. Oh yeah right, even pages named like that take stances
TheRogueGentlemanGamer
Every page has an owner, and everyone has an opinion.
GeekTherapyRadioPodcast
We keep our money in a hard target but not our kids. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
jayar1st
Fantastic point.
Rodent350
I think it’s illegal to hunt humans with even one round last I checked.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
This is why I use a half-round!
BlueSpaceLizard
It's perfectly fine if your wearing a uniform amirite?
Lifeangel
Find it ironic that the kids are saying to abolish the 2nd amendment, but the school requiring clear backpacks is infringing on there rights
Lifeangel
I know it's their not there, sorry I'm sleep deprived.
lolthisismyusername
Seriously surprised to see so many folks here pointing out the march and new gun law as the bullshit it is.
ChumChum3
Guns don’t kill geese....
SlightlyDankMemes
It’d be a lot cooler if it were legal
lacole725
Only Canadian though, not asshole snow geese. Mag extenders and liberal bag limit
KAbNeaco
I was about to say this; you can go to town on snow geese. Daily limit is 25 and there is no possession limit atm.
classicgrinder
Everyone read the bottom part right? The person saying it's illegal to hunt kids?
Ordinii
I mean murder is illegal and so is hunting children.
PhysicalBiogeochemistry
I agree... All cell phones should be waterproof.
agentarcher
You know what would stop someone that wants to engage in mass murder? More words on the books somewhere. And more gun free zones.
flyingmonsters
Gun free zones?
agentarcher
Ya know, like schools. No one planning mass murder would ever violate a gun free zone. Cause that would be bad.
flyingmonsters
Lol yeah, makes no sense. If someone is hell bent on killing ppl they will find a way. The media has to stop giving them publicity.
GeminiMax
What if the entire country was a gun free zone.......
misterwit
The number of guns grandfathered in already would be impossible to seize or account for fully. Also it would never happen.
agentarcher
Have to amend the Constitution for that one. But even so, plenty of evidence that's not a cure all.
GeminiMax
Constitution says right to keep and bear arms, thats a broad definition, what that means is up to the current legal definition
Brandy321
CNN will have this prime time with dinglefritz here spewing this idiotic iteration.
OmgSeriously
And here I was waiting for the water proof phone joke
Manatapit
So many people marching and speaking...not a single clue as to what they want done or how it’s supposed to be done. Just whining and crying.
flyingmonsters
Yep.
cpnbeeb
My favorite are the ones saying only the cops should have guns, then turn around and say the cops are out of control racists. Hmm.
candiduscorvus
Anti gun people like this guy are insane.
rikistuna
People who dont like guns are insane?
TehBox0rz
They aren’t insane; they’re scared and angry.
macks2008
They may be scared and angry, but they're sure as hell using an insane argument in the case of this img. I think your first clause is false.
candiduscorvus
They hate Trump, hate the police, and yet they want only the police to be armed, and the president they compare to Hitler to control them.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
No, they're insane.
idonthaveagoodnameinmind
but making incorrect posters like this provide people easy opportunity to discredit honest debate. it works on both sides.
DurzoBlint101
You can’t fight people who only argue with emotions using facts and statistics sadly.
flyingmonsters
Goes for both sides
DurzoBlint101
Of course, using pure emotion doesn’t make for good policy.
DurzoBlint101
Or good conversations
flyingmonsters
That's basically what arguments are now in the world. No logic at all just yelling and bitching, whoever is louder wins
DurzoBlint101
Unfortunately you are correct and the lie has to be broken that yelling and screaming at whoever you disagree with solves anything.
DurzoBlint101
Also i don’t understand the down voting my completely reasonable comment? Did i word it weirdly?
TheMightyElk
So by that logic school shootings are ok if you have no pistol grip and a less than 5 round Magazine
HelloSer
Yes
Whwat
THIS is why non gun owners hate gun nuts. Try being reasonable next time.
TheMightyElk
I know you have to have at least a 2 round magazine to be safe with a firearm
RenegadeTQ
His point is that your suggestions are unreasonable.
powershit
No, youre just too stupid to accept facts and reality
DiracsDelta
Well isn’t the pistol grip what makes assault rifles deadly?! We should define what’s legal by comfort and cosmetic features. Oh, we tried
MrSnowy
*cough* new jersey *cough*
TheMightyElk
I'll Take one uncomfortable machinegun please!
pancreas
hah, good luck killing anyone with that thing!
SavageHonesty
The only thing he'll be killing is his back and his shoulder, amirite?
StillNotYouTube
No, it's the bayonet lug that makes them deadly. Or was it the barrel shroud? That's the shoulder thing that goes up, if you didn't know.
LionHeart31337
You can’t say you’re just as efficient with 6 five round magazines as you are with one 30 round magazine...
TheMightyElk
Well.. I mean the 30 round mag just fits in 1 pocket.. If i have to carry 5 rounders I need a vest. Then I'm automatically an assault human
merlinious
True, buys 1-2 seconds each mag to reload. Or i can make my own mag. Its essentially a box and a spring, dude.
LionHeart31337
No shit. That doesn’t mean we have to make it as easy as possible for people to commit these atrocities. This isn’t the end all be all idea.
merlinious
My point is it is an insignificant difference to inhibit atrocities, but will negatively impact hundreds of thousands of people.
LionHeart31337
Negatively impact them more than loosing their fucking lives?
LionHeart31337
Make magazines bulky, hard to carry, make them a multi step process to reload. There is no reason to have large capacity magazines.
merlinious
They are useful on the range for target shooting. They are also very useful for hunting hogs, a dangerous invasive species costing billions
LionHeart31337
So a hobby convenience is more important than innocent lives? It makes it mildly easy to shoot more hogs. Not worth human lives.
LionHeart31337
At least I’m coming forth with proactive measures on how to curb this very real problem in America. What are pro gun people putting forth?
powershit
You arent doing shit. How about teach respect, empathy, and humility to young kids so they help the weird or lonely kids at school?
merlinious
I have several ideas. First, make all the rules federal instead of state, if i can drive to the next town over to circumvent the law it's
merlinious
Useless. Second, have a publically available search engine that just give a yes/no response to if someone can buy a gun. This helps with
WheeereAreMyFlapjacks
Let's figure out how to stop them before it becomes a shooting.
Entartika
This whole March is a big win for the NRA
khazaria
Yes the NRA got money, but it lost in policy. Not a total loss or anything, but policy they were against came about.
BigFatCatTats
celebrating dead children to own the libs ????????????????#MAGA amirite groypers
NewProtectorate
Agreed. I'm on the hook for like 5 years already, and every time the public reminds me of how dumb they are I kick in a few more bucks.
BolenArrow
Very Insightful Things
innagaddavidababy
The shootings are a big win for the nra.
WhoStoleMySweetroll
Every time there's a shooting, the NRA gains members and donations. You could probably calculate how much money each dead child earns them.
bohemiancrabcity
Same with anti gun groups.
bohemiancrabcity
Downvoting doesn't mean it's not true.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
Someone probably has somewhere
THRAWN18
Explain please
toxictoast
My NRA membership expired 3 years ago. I just signed up for 5 years.
AMBM2
The biggest boost in gun sales come when the NRA can convince people their guns are going to be banned.
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
Thank you. Bump stocks after Vegas shooting were selling out. The DNC and MSM are the best sales for gun manufacturers. NRA loves it.
AMBM2
Yes. It is really, really sick.
drunkcat
A lot more people like guns than anyone cares to admit and gun regulations already exist in spades. Mixing both and you get a losing DNC.
pokos33
Talk about the Dems shitting themselves in the upcoming midterms. Who's more likely to vote? The person who's worried their guns are 1/2
pokos33
going to be taken away or the people who are latching onto a tragic emotional fad that will likely be forgotten in a few months? 2/2
poochyena
60% support banning assualt rifles in general
lysani
Most people don't know what an "assault rifle" even is.
poochyena
can I get a link to the poll that says that?
SnortAKnifeIntoMyBrain
Assault rifles are already banned.
poochyena
over 70% of Americans are in favor of more gun regulations https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/guns-parkland-polling-quiz/
Anphib
It’s true, most gun owners actually support background checks and yet 15 states don’t require them for second hand sales.
Ssssssssssss
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/11/07/poll_position_where_clinton_trump_stand_on_election_eve_132270.html
poochyena
why did you link to a random article?
Abearinthezoo
At least they used “shells” instead of “bullets”. The people who yell the loudest often don’t know the first thing about guns for real.
seedye
I call all of them “shootbulbs” just to annoy people like you.
OneBeardOneNation
I own guns and still call them "clipazines" around my buddies that get jacked out of shape. While not knowing terms show they may not (1)
OneBeardOneNation
fully understand the topic. I personally have never understood dismissing an argument based on that.(2)
OneBeardOneNation
Be a steward and teach them, it may change their mind. (3)
Abearinthezoo
Every chance I get. I would much rather take someone to the range and teach them something than go by myself and rattle off 200 rounds solo.
Tanwolf
The thought is, if they don't understand the simple terms, how can they understand the more complex problem. You wouldn't want a mechanic >
Tanwolf
working on your car that didn't know what a tire was, would you?
Hoffdawg
It's funny to me how much a shooting actually increases gun sales. Where I work, there was a line out the door to buy an ar after Parkland
rikistuna
holy shit
GodofCats
Its because people fear another assault weapons ban so they buy guns in the hopes they will be grandfathered in if it happens.
Dracology
It's true. Friend of mine bought a huge ass shotty and two of my co-workers from Nepal were talking about getting AR-15's.
Traja01
Because people wrongfully believe that anything will change after the most recent tragedy.
somerandomtwat
wrongfully? every time one happens we get closer and closer to more gun control
Traja01
What changed after Columbine? VA Tech? UT? UCSB? Sandy Hook? Anything at all? Or was someone just playing to your fears about liberals?
cpnbeeb
Columbine brought about straw purchase laws. Others brought around state level mag capacity bans.
Traja01
1) straw purchase laws seems more like the closing of a loophole than an outright ban, 2) HC mags weren't the only sales to spike.
somerandomtwat
fears about liberals? what are you talking about?
Traja01
"Obama's gonna take away your guns."
Traja01
Shit like that, that you hear in certain corners of the internet.
Traja01
"Democrats want to disarm civilians because that's the only thing in the way of their plans for tyranny."
Traja01
You know what does happen after those tragedies though: gun and ammo sales skyrocket because people get scared. The industry has an interest
Traja01
in scaring you, because when you get scared, you spend and they profit. Don't be naive.
somerandomtwat
p.s dont end your arguments with "dont be naive" or anything like that beacuse its just makes you come across as hostile and/or childish
somerandomtwat
yes they do and i never said otherwise so that point is irrelevant to this argument
Traja01
That point was what started this argument.
CMDRAescwulf
Criminals don't follow the law fact.
Whwat
If criminals cant get guns, they cant shoot anybody. Why a re you arming them?
n0n53n53
do you think criminals will turn in their guns in a ban? No, only law abiding people will do that
Dracology
Except criminals can get guns. Because we are not an island nation and have two nations with large borders and huge amounts of smugglers.
LionHeart31337
Right? So why have laws about anything? Just get rid of laws they protect no one! Fucking idiot.
easyED
Exactly. "Criminals don't follow laws" is the dumbest defense ever. Why not legalize crack? criminals are going to get it anyway. ugh!
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
Yeah, why tf should we let people consume whatever the fuck they want? Hello! It worked amazingly for booze, it'll DEFINITELY work for drugs
JerfyMcGriddles
You know what didn't work with booze? Prohibiting it. In fact, it funded one of the biggest eras of organized crime single-handedly.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
(that's the point)
JerfyMcGriddles
I think if we legalized and regulated drugs we'd have a whole lot less problems on our hands...
easyED
I think pot should definitely be legal nation wide. But Meth, crack, her ect...I don't think that would make America Great.
JerfyMcGriddles
A lot of crime is either committed for or funded by illegal drug sales. A lot of deaths are from unclean drugs. Legalization solves both.
Zan11
Laws exist to legalize punishing immoral acts, which owning a scary-looking firearm is not
JerekoKosta
But seriously, all cell phones Should be water resistant.
MrSniffles
Amen!
astrangehop
The people who make tech live mostly in carpted climate controlled wifi environments andsume everyone else does too. Love my CAT s60 though.
infinityLAO
I didnt realize how relieving it would actually be until i got one
StoicJ
I've rinsed my phone off in a sink. Casually with no second thought to turn it off or anything. Liberating feeling
themajor77
Dropped mine in a few inches of water this morning and I nearly had a heart attack before I realized it's waterproof
NanerpusBAM
Currently reading this in the shower with mah pixel
yoopinoquepepino
I believe they aren’t designed to resist anything other than water (i.e. soap) so wATcH oUt
lessthankris
What phones are not resistant these days?
SitcomScenes
IWrestledABearAndWon
Honestly? It'd be cool for water resistant phones, but I wouldn't trade that for a removable battery.
RepresentativeOfNorway
I put in on vibrate and call myself while i have it inserted up my anus, the waterproof phones last a lot longer that the other ones
GabinoMorales
At least stop making phones with “tempered” glass backs, they always shatter on the first drop. It’s stupid as fuck! Samsung and apple.
RoboCritter
Mine is water accaptant.
Vaanhalen
Yes but i like that the idiot post is by a group whose central feature is they cant figure out how to not drown their cell phones
LyraTheLycan
Most are until you break it
bitchinmona
Agreed, as I sit typing this mid-bath. What, am I supposed to soak sans smartphone like a fucking cave dweller?!
TechNutz
water resistance isn't good enough, we need water proof smartphones
BolenArrow
Very Insightful Things
totalytryingtobeniceroninternets
This man is fighting the real fight here.
HitlersClonedButthole
In Hong Kong all of them are. Went on deployment. When I asked its cause "Americans will just buy a new one.".......fuckers are right though
Kovahjin
I keep accidentally running mine through the wash. It being water resistant was a happy feature I found out it had. Saved my ass.
B99Reactions
Most phones are water resistant but not waterproof
DarkLordTrump
Up to 50 feet for 24 hours.
pareidoliaperson
Haaa got it! I got it fast really! @ seconds really.
DarthVenom42
Rather be able to swap out batteries.
ozjuggler
["Why not both?!"] https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&sAvailabilities=1,2&sIPCerts=1,2,3,4,7&idBatRemovable=1
DarthVenom42
These are old phones. :-(
cliffjumper83
What about battery banks? I didn’t like how easy water proof covers of the S5 came off when dropped.
ozjuggler
The main value of replaceable batteries is for replacing a dead/failed battery without buying a new phone, not just rapid recharging.
Holobit
But then how do you expect NSA to spy on you if you remove your phone's battery?
degenerator
And rechargeable in the microwave.
LordAlfrey
Most already are! Just try it for yourself!
stainlessteelmohawk
Why has this taken so long to become reality?
degenerator
The 4chan conspiracy wields ultimate control.
ButteryButtsButterflyCups
all the newest iphones have this already. try it, trust me, it's a great feature.
stainlessteelmohawk
I'll have to get an iPhone first. Plus one for Buttery username!
zoeaW1ndXI
They are, there's SOME water resistant. Not much, but it doesn't delete itself from existence when it comes into contact with water.
lolthisismyusername
I'd like to see examples of things that consciously decide to cease to exist, given contact with water.
TheDrunkenWrench
The Galaxy line has been waterproof for a few generations now. I use mine to play music in the shower.
zoeaW1ndXI
Pretty much every flagship has an IP67 water resistance or higher.
Ealadon
*resistant, they're not waterproof. They're good for most uses and you won't have issues, but rely on it too much and it'll break.
WindyAutumnDay
I'm assuming that's an s6 you don't care about that much, I'd never put my baby in the shower with me
TheDrunkenWrench
S7 edge. Had it for nearly 2 years and 0 issues.
zoeaW1ndXI
How's that battery life treatin' ya :^)
AsianDad
We already have phones that's Katana resistance, why not water too?
stainlessteelmohawk
Now everyone will be tapping my phone with their sword. Dam Imgur! LOL
Ealadon
Water, on a microscopic level, is just millions of tiny katanas. The blades are infinitely sharper, that is how they get into phones.
TheSacret
Ealadon
Dog is looking at you like that because you're trying to throw millions of tiny katanas at it!
TheSacret
Mobiusloop
What?? It bounces? The it down then whack it again
Mobiusloop
Tie*
MemeCommunist
Also “then whack it again” should start with an “and”, also use a full stop.
MemeCommunist
*Then
MemeCommunist
Also the two question marks in “What??” could be replaced by an interrobang (‽), it’s a combination of the exclamation, and question marks.
Mobiusloop
And where do you find this ‽ symbol on the keyboard? or do you just do the alt key codes?
Mobiusloop
sjbrooksy7447
First, I support gun common sense gun laws. Second, I'm not sure that guy is holding that sign. Third, that sign is stoopid.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
Define common sense in legislation.
sjbrooksy7447
Not letting corporations write the laws
n0n53n53
explain "common sense". I've yet to hear anyone who says that actually have a real solution
sjbrooksy7447
If I have to explain it, you don't have it.
n0n53n53
Exactly what I was expecting, zero ideas, zero substance. Hey, you at least tried to offend me so you got that going for you.
sjbrooksy7447
Thanks
Trelkeen
everyone supports common sense gun laws, the problem is the term "common sense" is a VERY subjective term that is different for each person
sjbrooksy7447
You have a point, but think the word common means the majority of people having it. As in common.
Trelkeen
True but people only tend to commonly support vague ideas and as the details come out support drops.
sjbrooksy7447
Yeah and the common people tend to be idiots
skolvike
In 2014 rifles were used in 248 out of 11,961 murders. May I ask what good banning ANY rifle is going to do?
sjbrooksy7447
So keep rifles and ban hand guns?
Trelkeen
It wont do any good at all.One of the things that SHOULD be done is making data contribution to the NICS mandatory for all agencies & states
Cooter961relaxitsakindofturtle
Yes and then making a list of folks who are restricted from owning firearms public and holding the people who sell privately responsible 1/2
Cooter961relaxitsakindofturtle
For checking to make sure who they are selling to aren’t on it.. bye bye most straw purchases
155DangerClose
BECAUSE THE AR-15 IS A WEAPON BUILT BY THE DEVIL HIMSELF AND IS CAPABLE OF KILLING 500 CHILDREN A MINUTE
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
But what about the Automatic-Killer 47-bullets-per-trigger-pull?!?!?!
155DangerClose
I'll remember that one, that's a good one.
MisterEerieO
Well there was this guy in las vegas who shot 1000 ppl in 10 minutes
merlinious
So 100/min. Maybe it slowed down and had decresed lethality cause they were adults. Maybe it was going in tune with the beat
155DangerClose
half that number. But yes similar numbers would be achieved with your standard semi auto rifle with the right planning
JustYourLips
I could totally see children hunting becoming a sport for the fucked up elite.
MrPippin42
Already happening, via drone strikes on foreign soil
thegonzoesquire
Ummm...quite a difference between hunting and war...never been at war with a duck, just wanted to eat duck for dinner....
bigdaddyfatpants
I have a feeling such things have been done before. If not currently.
Draconieray
Why do the elite get to have all the fun?
Mack1986
Just poor kids though right? No-one inportant
TheBullshitter
That way you can claim they don't count as humans.
youcantproveit
...because they don't.
WhiteSavage
That happens after they take our guns.
Thoremboar
If that idea interests you, you should read a manga called "The Promised Neverland," IT'S SO GOOD!
ParksAndRex
Nah man, children don't give any enjoyment for hunting. They're not clever in escape. Hunting a Man is where the thrill really lies.
2fligh2high
EatTacos
Mel Brooks History of the World Pt I, the King of France using catapults to skeet shoot peasants.
Everythingisalie841
They already do
EhIsForCanehdians
I mean, it's not that fucked up, right? Right?
jokerman5656
We can use iPads as bait! And Doritos as bait! And video games as bait! Shit... That's stuff I like...
icuru12
You get double points for baiting with tide pods
SirMickey
The aristocrats...
lolthisismyusername
"Becoming"?
tacattack
Kryptoknife
I would support being able to hunt only the ones you grow yourself.
IWouldDoThings
Call it Rambo 2
pygmypufftrampstamp
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Fuck elites, I'd do it and Im random middle class. Just gimme a paintball gun and release the kids, dis gonna be gud.
LlamaLingo
iamthisguy247
Maybe it already is and us poor nobodies don't even know this.
phoenixht1
Why hunt them, when they can fight each other for your amusement! Hunger Games!
powershit
Wheres all the Liberal anger over that moviem
kuba913
Hungry gays?
DeanOMiite
See: The Most Dangerous Game
HereIGoLurkingAgain
…I remember that from a long time ago.
LurkerLurky
Also just the hunger games
elonmuskisbuildingskynet
Isn’t that the one with ice-t and dr Cox?
SlobberToilet
I believe Alex jones has an expose on that very thing.
v
RocketVillain
eddieeeeeee69
Also gay frogs.
ElbowdeepinElmo
Infowars is an impeccable news outlet.
BrandName
......sarcasm? Sarcasm....
SlobberToilet
Apeofdeath
It is illegal to hunt humans, your logic is flawed
thegonzoesquire
Came here to say a variation of this
Stapler22
But that’s what the comment in the post says....
thegonzoesquire
So now we can't agree with comments in the OC?? But yeah missed that...thumbnail got me...
asmallcat
Way to read the image....
bravecatgaming
He read the image, just didnt connect it with the title
Stapler22
That’s exactly what the post says...
cyanideslushie
Tell that to 007 me has a license
GrandNedgus
kmikl
Did you look at the meme? It says literally the same thing.
nonyabiness
People are fucking stupid.
xRelyks
Ah, the most dangerous game
FlurpNerp
We fucking know that. The picture is making fun of itself. It's a stupid person arguing for the right thing.
Anonymonocle
sirhcdraw143350
They're racking them numbers up in Chicago for it to be so called , illegal.
bingotown
How did you come up with that? By reading the image, perhaps? Good on ya for getting 1500+ points though.
ABluntForce
Technically there is a difference between hunting and killing. Thus the reason for the compound name, "hunter-killer".
ABluntForce
Hunting implies tracking, baiting, leading, and may or may not involve killing. In any case, it's the killing that's illegal, not the hunt.
ABluntForce
And technically, in at least one state in the union, assisted suicide is legal. So there exist loopholes...
ABluntForce
Now... there *are* laws against *imprisoning* humans. Which is a practice sometimes involved in hunting...
ABluntForce
And there are certainly laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Although that primarily restricts the government, not citizens...
c0smicj0ker
I was gonna say I'm all for more gun laws... but this is the worst argument ever. There are a million better ones
PMmeYourFeetLadies
Laws do little to disuade school shooters. Their end goal is typically suicide. Hard to be prosecuted when you're dead.
rooik14
Yes, but those laws can make thing difficult for the criminal to do what they want. What the person in the picture here is suggesting is 1/2
rooik14
2/2 a restriction on how much ammo one person can have. Making it difficult to have their hundreds of rounds to mow down a crowd of people.
OneBeardOneNation
Totally get that. My only issue is I shot 5-6 120 count box of clays with a buddy this past weekend. Hundreds of rounds isnt abnormal.
joevair
Just because it is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't/didn't happen. That might be the point here.
IJustLikeToArgue
And I'm sure there are some people who might hunt geese with more than 3 shells in their shotgun.
joevair
Those geese are muthas!!!!!
BolenArrow
Very Insightful Things
criickyO
a really great hunter would go after something that could hunt him back
NotOnRexManningDay
Rickety Cricket though?
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Wait, really? Oh fuck...
squip
Illegal yes, but it sure is fun!
tacodefender
Explain milfhunter.com then...
Rapluzz
Illegal to other humans not other animals
theloneponderer
Not if you're Dick Cheney.
ZombieZoidberg
preach it brother!
Apeofdeath
The exception that implies the rule
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
I agree
ChrisFaggart
What about witch hunt
lolthisismyusername
Shh... most people here think that more gun laws will stop murderers, because murderers follow law. Don't interrupt the mindlessness.
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lolthisismyusername
Which countries border Australia?
rooik14
Alright how about; Canada, Germany and Norway for a few that have bordering countries.
BrockAppDancer
Or is it! Have you even been to bar?
monkeymonkeyf
Unless you're in the military...
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Which one? Cambodian army? North Korean?
A2Rasta
Salvation
A2Rasta
mysticchicken
Bunk knows.
TheProfessionalOne
Congrats on the most ignorant comment on Imgur.
BrandName
I mean....technically we still hunt humans...bounty hunters literally hunt humans for money....
Klaaism
We also do not have highly trained and equipped armies of killers.
thegonzoesquire
For breaking the law....like murdering....and its tracking not hunting...
kmikl
Some states permit it, and it's apprehending because they're bail bondsmen legally enforcing a bail contract.
thegonzoesquire
How was my dumb down version wrong you fucking retard. Pretty familiar with the process, username js relevant....
kmikl
So you track a bail jumper, but don't apprehend? What kind of hardy boys shit is that? FTR: don't dumb it down, it short-sells yourself.
boofhead60
mate tracking is a key part of hunting
thegonzoesquire
Correct but the end goal of a hunt us to kill what yout tracking...not apprehend and return to captivity....
boofhead60
every tame animal was wild ,hunted trapped raise in captivity [ not cat]today hunters are bird watchers wildlife photographers hikers etc
ler0yjenkins
but people are stupid... we can't expect them to have common sense about murder already being illegal
BrockAppDancer
Without guns there is no murder! Guns = murder! Especially geese murder!
Navlida
"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?"
cuntsicle
What if, and hear me out on this, we make places like school where children gather, an area that's illegal to have a gun in?
flyingmonsters
Isn't that where most school shootings happen? In areas with strict gun control?
cuntsicle
That's the joke.
InappropriateGifGuy
Then no one could bring guns in! It's perfect!
Gallus1985
Make it illegal for mentally ill people to purchase firearms of any kind. That'd be a good start.
Zan11
A good start to ensuring nobody gets help for mental health issues
Gallus1985
Require it as part of the firearm purchasing process. Like when you go to the DMV they require a written test, practical test and eye exam.
ler0yjenkins
hahahaha. but to be clear, put a sign on the door stating guns are not permitted
worldsokayestspeler
If im planning on murdering a bunch of children with a gun, ive probably already come to terms with the fact that im gonna break some laws.
macks2008
swiper no swiping!
McPamDa
Did you mean: Sniper no sniping?
cuntsicle
Nope. Fun free zones would stop you.
ford53
Schools are already fun free zones! Duh!
DiracsDelta
To be clear, “machine guns” are, with few exceptions, illegal, and have not been involved in criminal activity in a long time.
jethroismaxbaer5772
You haven't been to San Andreas lately.
TeddyBearHeaven
Talk about police brutality
AGROOVYASSASSIN
Who needs a machine gun when you got one hell of a trigger finger
Talann1
Hurrr durr ban bump stocks! i dont know what they are but we need to ban them!
HoldMyWater
I know what they are. Ban them.
Leeloothedog
My uncle used to have a street sweeper. Government came and took it away. It was a very sad day.
Ferrumkit
hilariously those things were known to be tremendously shitty though I'm more curious why he didn't fight for compensation, unless he did.
Leeloothedog
i dont know if he was compensated or not. honestly i doubt he would care compared to his weapon being stolen...
Ferrumkit
The only people that would have stole that from him would have been someone that knew about it or if he was in a bad area. No Safe I assume.
Leeloothedog
the government came and took it. lol it was in his safe
Trunkmonkay
2 murders with registered machine guns since the NFA in 1934. Machine guns aint an issue lol
Jonanon
It's a war of hyperbole and false information.
boltboy37
Pump the brakes...a lot of these people have no idea what you’re talking about. Yet many feel like they’re qualified experts. Mindblowing.
killer10347
Pretty sure you're allowed to get a machine gun. You just have to forfeit most of your rights to privacy.
WallyWorldtoo
So you are saying the banning of a certain type of firearm prevents crimes committed with them.OMG
NativeIndian
I thought when you made guns illegal criminals still gained access to them?
SirStrongBad
Not illegal...just very rare and very, very expensive.
otiumCatulli
What did the las Vegas man use?
Thisusernameisalreadyinyouse
Bump stocks
whoopsidaz
Is anyone suggesting we need guns that will shoot more rounds per minute? If not, wonder how we arrived at just the perfect number.
trowavo
i was in the army national guard we can't use those things for state side missions or use our m4 on 3 round burst
36roentgen
To get a military grade M-4 you have to be cleared by the ATF and the rifle costs as much as a car.
36roentgen
Apparently two complete morons downvoted me without even researching if I was right.......
LosPer
Except for the bump stock thing in Vegas, yes.
bhazor
"and have not been involved in criminal activity in a long time" it's almost like banning them removed them from the street or something.
saboten13
If they’re illegal than their mere existence in civilian hands is by definition illegal activity lol
Munchman347
'Bump stock'...legal...machinegun...
magila
Except for the Vegas shooter that used bump stocks to convert 3 assault rifles into machine guns and shoot 600 fucking people in 10 minutes.
blessedarethecheesemakers
Technically you are correct but legal bumpstocks simulate full auto.
yorhuckleberry
Get those facts out of here!
spicysenor
"Machine Gun" is a gun that fires continuously as long as the trigger is pressed. So any automatic weapon.
tupacshomie
NOT illegal.
Talann1
not sure what your point is.
Euchre
Which isn't precisely illegal, but most 'OMG no guns' people assume a tactical firearm ('assault weapon') is always full auto. Wrong.
IRememberMyFirstBeer
Yes we are speaking about combat ready semi-automatic assault rifles. Different but similar in their capable discharge.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
There is no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle. "Assault rifle" means full-auto/semi-auto selectable.
IRememberMyFirstBeer
I would agree. - sent from my bar stool. How would you classify a semi automatic weapon that has capability of firing at full automatic?
Raenon
That isnt a semi automatic then, thats a select fire weapon. Two different categories.
HomelessJesus
“Assault rifle” is anything the gov. wants to call it, they change the classifications of weapons they don’t like so they fall under 1/
HomelessJesus
The bans they put in place, that’s what they tried to do here in NY
UnfortunateSon
Assault rifle really only means that a gun is of an intermediate caliber, so not a full battle rifle or submachine gun.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
It needs to be select-fire as well.
mynamesbryson
"Assault rifle" is a made up term.
CakesArePrettyGood
well technically yes but all terms are made up
mynamesbryson
Ok, it's a term that has no meaning. There is no such thing as an assault rifle.
Cole2999
There's a cutoff date (c. 198X). Any made before then are legal, but require an ATF license. But yes, generally not used in crime b/c cost.
Klaaism
Unless you were stealing said weapon.
StinkyBunny
May 19, 1986 was when the GCA 1986 went into effect. Anything manufactured before that in the USA is considered a transferable weapon.
KeredRednaxela
1930's law taxes automatics. 1960s law banned private ownership of foreign autos. 1986 law banned US made. can still own pre-86 autos
KeredRednaxela
some states ban autos outright (NY, CA etc...) Class 3 license or FFL create some exceptions I'm not familiar with.
AGiantTransWoman
NY and CA basically ban guns in general, other than the monstrosities of CA owned AR15s.
KeredRednaxela
automatics =/= assault weapon =/= assault rifle =/= machine gun. all have similarities, all have differences.
OwenMillerOnline
Handguns mostly. They will also be used in mass shootings if 'assault weapons' (whatever that is) are banned
n0n53n53
already were. Virginia Tech shooter has a 9mm with 15rd mags and a .22 pistol. Killed 32, injured 17
RedIronCrown
Pistol rounds are way, way less lethal. The type of magazine shown should be banned though.
n0n53n53
tell that to Seung-Hui Cho
RedIronCrown
*Sigh* Less lethal doesn't mean not lethal at all. Pistols can kill, of course, but rifles do so more easily.
n0n53n53
They're aren't less lethal, even a little bit less
OwenMillerOnline
WRONG.
RedIronCrown
The first sentence is fact, the second is opinion, so...
OwenMillerOnline
The first sentence is incorrect.
Ferrumkit
2 known occurrences of legal machine guns used for commission of a crime, 1 of which was a cop. Last known use of mg was robbers in CA, 90's
xxiphos
Just ban all guns and we won’t have play word games
Vyrro
Lets ban alcohol so no more ppl die from drunk driving
Ferrumkit
It's fine for you to think this, but may I ask why the reasonable law abiding citizen should be adjudicated for the actions of a criminal?
ItsUncleSam
How about shall not be infringed motherfucker
cpnbeeb
And those were illegally modified anyway so lol welp.
AzgarOgly
That is pretty good statistics, I say. Considering there are about half a million registered automatic weapons out there.
rando84
If we're talking historically, there were plenty of legally owned machine gun killings in the Prohibition era, which led to the current law.
bohemiancrabcity
he's talking about since the law was put in place
rando84
I figured, but it wasn't clear.
Ferrumkit
Really depends on who you're talking about. Legitimately the .38 SW was and still is a long-time favorite because it's cheap and effective.
Ferrumkit
If you mean like Clyde Barrow .... he stole his BARs from Nat Guard depot.
WhiteKnight124
Well new machine guns are illegal, there are grandfathered ones but they’ll run you 30k plus, but they aren’t used in crime
thegonzoesquire
Key word exceptions....
Barkinsons
They did kill a drug lord in Chile with one a while back IIRC
jucyblucy
Tell that to All Capone
goudist
All of them? Know any good Mediums?
the70spsycho
machine guns were completely legal until 1986, capone was big in the thirties dude
bohemiancrabcity
There were essentially the same restrictions equivalent to a class 3 license starting in the 30s. The 1986 law outlawed new manufactured 1s.
catsandcoke
Yup. My cousin told me people buy them as investments since they appreciate in value.
UNDE4DBEAST187
More like 5k but you know it's almost the same number
eazolan
If you want a machine gun that badly, just build one.
Anototh
can't creation of new automatic firearms are illegal.
eazolan
So is cocaine. And?
izoli413365
The guns themsleves arent illegal, regardless of age you need a license to own an automatic weapon. Im sure most have died since law was est
MacClay
That's in Canada. In the US, pretty much only Machine Guns that were registered as such before May 1986 are transferable.
MacClay
To clarify, MG's actually are legal to own in Canada if you have the correct license, but they stopped issuing them, and holders are aging.
ThatComputerDude
Not license, just a tax stamp and pass a background check. BTW, if you don't pass your background check you don't get your money back.
izoli413365
Its not exactly easy to obtain the license. Its not just pay, BG check and youre good. Local sheriff has to okay it(usually wont)
blob87
It is actually that easy. Sheriff has no say in the matter anymore, he just has to be notified of the purchase.
McDouggal
*Technically* there have been 2 crimes involving pre-86 automatics since 1986.
MacClay
And one was a police officer robbing a bank.
TheNLK
Those are the few exceptions he mentioned.
Steven054
And you need to jump through insane amounts of paperwork and submit finger prints to the FBI and wait like 6-12 months.
bbirbb
6-12 months... I fucking wish.
OriginaIPoster
What
theredacted
Hey what about breaking bad
SuddenlySarah
good point
theredacted
/s
Yuri909
More like 8-15k on average.
cpnbeeb
For an absolute bottom tier one yeah $8k is right. Otherwise they go for and exceed $30k.
LiamNeesonOfficial
I got my permit for my assault gun at walmart yesterday for $7. Massive condoms for my magnum dong.
Yuri909
If you want to get into LMG territory. I've seen M16s and FALs for less.
SepticStorm
under 15k may find you a mac10 or similar machine pistol. rifles tend to be arroun $30k and $80-$120k+ for anything belt fed. mind you these
cpnbeeb
I'm looking at a $20k M16 on subguns' NFA classifieds right now.
brownribbon
Full auto MAC-10s will only set you back around $6k.
ChibiYui
A legal one? Talking about already illegal things isn't pertinent, is it?
brownribbon
Yes, pre-86 MAC-10s are going for about $6k. At least they were last year.
ChibiYui
Huh, that's surprising. Does that include the BATFE fees?
Startrekker95
If I’m going to go through the hassle of dealing with the ATF to buy an automatic gun, I’m not wasting it on a MAC
brownribbon
Why not? Theyr're fun.
conservativenightmare26
They may be fun but why spend that kind of money on garbage quality
MacClay
Well then how else can you bail outside to point your weapon, when you need to encourage fools to keep steppin?
AManWhoWasntThere
Can you name one country in this world where people can have access to automatic weapons? Btw i'm not anti guns 100% (1/2)
MacClay
USA, Switzerland, Czech Republic mainly. Belgium and New Zealand kinda sorta. Canada, some old people still can.
MacClay
Supposedly Finland, Austria, and Argentina as well. And a few other countries most people don't think 'count'.
AManWhoWasntThere
But not everyone should be able to have one.
BigUncleHeavy
Well, yes, technically you have access to them in the USA, but usually require a license.
xxiphos
Nit picking will not us to where we need to be
Talann1
which is?
ChibiYui
Think you accidentally a word.
UnhelpfulAnswers
It's almost like banning them works
CKnowles
2a is in place to prevent genocides. Gun control 'worked' really well for Nazi Germany, etc. Gotta balance between genocide and homicide.
Butane9000
also mention Russia, Chile and other nations that have committed atrocities against people unable to defend themselves.
Youdiditwrong
If the America military wanted to do something against Americans, they could easily do so. Guns won't save you against a drone/tank/missile
CKnowles
That's what's ALWAYS said, and it's often wrong. For every failed Confederacy, there's a successful Revolution. Japan was on the receiving->
AzgarOgly
You can't control territory with drone/tank/missile. It is a task pretty much requiring an infantry and police force.
Butane9000
If the wars in the middle east haven't taught you anything Drone Strikes are very noticeable and morally and internationally frowned upon.
ItsUncleSam
Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam. And numerous rebellions, civil wars, and insurgencies in other countries.
DiracsDelta
Yes because they are clearly defined by how many rounds are fired for a single trigger pull. Defining “assault weapons” is much much harder.
jn2guru
Just keep it to a list. All the arms dealers are in one way or another using military fat pipes of $, and there is a finite # of gun designs
TheClayKnight
“Assault Rifle” is a defined term though. But people talk about “assault weapons” as if the phrase meant something. :/
cyno01
What if we regulated high capacity magazines at least like we do silencers?
AzgarOgly
That won't do much good. The Virginia Tech shooter used regular handguns. Just a bit more magazines to carry, not a much hassle.
Tamerdinosaur
Define high capacity
cyno01
>10? A hunter with a 30 round magazine is a shitty hunter. Spray and pray no good for defense either... if you still want to play around+
BeendrinkingComebacklater
Silencers are not banned at all and the fact you have to get a stamp is fucking stupid and only hurts the poor and my neighbors
cyno01
Thats why i didnt say ban, i asked why dont we regulate them similarly to something else we already regulate.
slaaneshBuiltMyJetbike
The guy that dumped a magazine out of a MAC-10 at me might disagree with you on your second point there...
Vyrro
Ill take things that didnt happen for $800 alex.
AzgarOgly
Was that a legal gun? Being legal and being physically there is not a same thing.
slaaneshBuiltMyJetbike
Oh absolutely not. I was under the impression we were talking about automatic weapons in general.
AzgarOgly
Well, I was under impression, that it is all about legislation regulating owning of the guns. Including automatic ones. I guess, we've had//
slaaneshBuiltMyJetbike
Yeah I agree with you there. The only statement I took issue with was that "there hasn't been crime committed with machine guns in 1/
AzgarOgly
different impressions here :) Discussing illegals firearms used in criminal activities is ok, but makes not much sense. At least in //
othelloinc
I interpret "machine guns" as "fully automatic"; is that wrong?
Vyrro
Technically yes, semantically no
othelloinc
I'm pretty sure that some fully automatic weapons have been used for criminal activity.
othelloinc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
IATTM
20 years ago. 2 years before Columbine.
SpecialAgentSmecker
Yes, that's the definition.
ChibiYui
The legal definition, at least.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
All machine guns are automatic, not all fully automatic weapons are machine guns. MGs are larger, belt fed, and often vehicle mounted.
AzgarOgly
Technically, you are. Machine pistols, submachine guns, automatic rifles are not machine guns.
rabbithlon
For those of us who aren't that interested in guns they might as well be: you pull the trigger and several bullets come out.
AzgarOgly
Well, for those who are not interested in geography, Europe is a country and they speak french there. //
rabbithlon
We also speak German and Spanish. We also had a weird breed of English but they floated away when we looked away and now they're stranded.
AzgarOgly
I think there is some level of common knowledge required to call myself adult. And bit higher level if I am making statement on some matter.
sirhcdraw143350
NOT illegal. A boatload of paperwork is required and permits mus be issued but NOT illegal.
FoLinMercMoCo
Illegal for individuals to own not corporations
HolyCringeLordBatman
No, an individual can buy a grandfathered automatic
AGiantTransWoman
Individuals can still buy automatics, again, with a lot of paperwork. Corporations can own NEW automatics.
Lordmongoose
Don't for get allowing the ATF to search your property unannounced if you do get issues a class 3 license
AGiantTransWoman
You don't need a class 3 as an individual - that's for dealing. Buying a pre-86 registered automatic is just a ton of wait and paper.
Vaanhalen
Illegal without an exemption. Thats illegal. Just like B&E is illegal even though a warrant can provide exemption for some.
YogiDatBear
Everything is illegal in California.
DiracsDelta
Only eligible to be legal if manufactured and registered before 1986.
GTimgur
You sure? Machine guns? Not automatic, but machine guns.
AzgarOgly
Machine guns, antitank guns, tank guns whole with tank, lots of interesting stuff, if you have money and are clean of crimes.
TheRocketFiend
Yep. “Class III” weapons.
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
Absolutely certain
echonite
Indeed, there is a distinction people forget or simply do not know.
Camelspotting
I'm pretty sure there's no distinction in the US.
echonite
There is indeed. Only uneducated people confuse the two.
GTimgur
Seems to be a split between people with military experience and people with armchair legal experience.
FsImgur
Yes even rotating barrel like in Terminator. it has to be made before a certain date, legal in your state (like NV), and you pay a fed tax.
ItsUncleSam
Any gun that fires more than one round per trigger pull is a “machine gun” so there’s no distinction between an M16 and a Browning M2.
Sector2814
I appreciate your attempt to educate
ItsUncleSam
According to US law that is. In reality, one is a machine gun, the other is a rifle.
hereforthegoodies
But I just want to know why some rifles are assault and others aren't
TobySomething
That said, bump stocks - which mimic automatic fire - were used in the Las Vegas massacre.
Panzer89
The same effect can be achieved with a beltloop, or in some cases, a shoestring. Binary and gatling triggers also exist and are 100% legal.
malikcarr
That cretin could have *afforded a real machine gun* if he wanted to. Totally spotless background check to buy it too.
Ginkawa
as I understand it, you can simulate that function with a belt, or something like that. that the device just makes it easier.
ItsUncleSam
Don’t forget, the ATF said ALL 14 inch shoe strings were machine guns.
powershit
Assault strings*
cpnbeeb
A belt loop, yes. Or a shoe string. https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/01/25/shoestring-machine-gun/
Ginkawa
wow thats... even more ridiculous than I thought, and I already though the whole "bump stock" thing was BS.
cpnbeeb
Welcome to feel good knee jerk legislating.
Butane9000
This is something I can back as a gun control opponent. But their useless for actually aiming. The Vegas shooter didn't have to aim thigh.
Dezimous
Full auto fire generally useless for aiming in general. Hence why the military doesnt teach it unless its a belt fed weapon. Not even burst.
Butane9000
Technically the M16A4 for the standard issue army service rifle comes with burst. I believe.
Dezimous
I wasnt saying the m4 doesnt have it. Im saying its use isnt taught. I carried one. Can confirm they do have the mode.
BigUncleHeavy
You are correct (also the M4), and they do in fact teach burst mode in the military. That dude has no idea what he's talking about.
OwenMillerOnline
I can make an improvised 'bump stock' with my belt. This legislation is useless feel good nonsense.
TobySomething
There is a difference between something being feasible and being useful and effective. Bump stocks sell because of the latter.
OwenMillerOnline
You clearly don't know how a bump stock operates.
Talann1
press the trigger real fast on a pistol and you can make it fire real quick. but yeah, bump stocks are totally the problem right?
OwenMillerOnline
It's just another example of gun control legislation written by people who know nothing about guns to appease their emotional voters.
Talann1
and horrible lobbyists.
deinfavorit
I guess for a lot of people everything bigger than a colt is considered a machine gun.
OldSchoolNewRules
VonKarmanVortexStreet
:(
Talann1
its the scary ones...the assault type weapons...the ones the military uses. the people who want to ban guns know nothing about them.
AManWhoWasntThere
It's not, i'm european, i have no problems with guns...but not everu
AManWhoWasntThere
*not everyone should be able to get access to a gun!
imgurdemocratcirclejerk
Most people here actually agree. The problem is deciding where the line is.
Bioman998
And not everyone can
BlazerBBlaze
Unpopular opinion: And those people are idiots.
Talann1
just keep letting them think they are winning. guns aren't going anywhere. even if they ban them.
BlazerBBlaze
Yeah, I would agree. Might be civil war if they do... :-/
Talann1
you would be surprised how many people laugh that off like they dont think it would happen.
Clockwork0813
Not unpopular by anyone that owns or understands firearms lol.
BlazerBBlaze
That's exactly my point. lol I wish people who don't like firearms would at least educate themselves a bit before just making assumptions...
allegedlynerdy
Generally they do. It's just no one goes taking screenshots of the ones who are.
deinfavorit
I neither own nor understand firearms but even I've played enough COD to know what a machine gun is
ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Pro-tip: A lot of people are uninterested in the finer details of the technical terms for guns
NotOfImport
What is and is not a machinegun isn't a finer detail. It's a pretty damn big deal. It tells you what the gun is and what to expect from it.1
NotOfImport
It's like saying you're not interested in the difference between a Limousine and an MRAP because they're both "cars." It's SUPER basic.2
n0n53n53
those people should stop trying to make laws about them then
RenegadeTQ
If someone is going to suggest legislation be passed, especially reporters covering policy, they should at least have a basic understanding.
AzgarOgly
Unfortunately, that won't disqualify them holding opinion on a matter they don't understand and that opinion being represented.
ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Why would it disqualify them?
magicrhombus
And for some reason the gun enthusiasts think this is a valid reason to reject their desire to not get shot in the face.
155DangerClose
It's when the uneducated twats think the AR-15 is some sort of crazy deadly weapon is when it becomes hilarious
lysani
For me, it's more that if people want to propose laws and restrictions on something, then they should probably be educated on it first.
restos
'looks over at my local gunstore, where they're selling an M249' Hmmmmm....
MaximumDrew
Unless it's selling for 5 figures, it's either semiauto or the seller is an idiot....
whitewolf863
Even a semi auto will run 10k
rooster68wbn
FNH makes a simiauto civilian M249. Other that that it would have to be a permit only M249.
yorhuckleberry
Mine has one too. Fun fact: it is still only a semi automatic
Sporkeldee
As others have stated, semi auto only. They’re also like $12k.
sketner
Is belt fed allowed or only clip?
entropyk
A clip is a clamp-like device that rounds are packed with attached to the bottom, which facilitates loading a magazine with a clip adapter.
Sporkeldee
It works via both belt and magazine. No clips.
Kodaxmax
not being widely reported by media isn't the same thing as it not happening. wasn't there like 6 mass murders with automatic weapons last ye
AzgarOgly
Some reference on legally owned automatic weapons being used in criminal activity please.
yorhuckleberry
No.
necovex
Automatic weapons are NOT machine guns. Just because you illegally modify a firearm doesn’t magically make it a machine gun
Kodaxmax
an automatic gun that can fire a lot of bullets one after the other very quickly- cambridge university dictionary
Kodaxmax
rly downvoting sources? whats wrong with you
Kodaxmax
an automatic gun that fires bullets in rapid succession for as long as the trigger is pressed- google dictionary
IWantedOneOfThoseLongUsernamesTooSoIGotOne
Okay, but instead of playing semantics, can we get some common-sense restrictions on AR-15s and the like?
dragoon134
What is common sense about banning ARs? The majority of gun crimes happen with handguns
IWantedOneOfThoseLongUsernamesTooSoIGotOne
Yes, but so what? We had a ban on assault weapons not that long ago, and it helped. No law is perfect but it's still worth trying.
GoliathSkittles
It's not really semantics, when you're talking about creating laws and regulations you need to be specific about what you are doing.
IWantedOneOfThoseLongUsernamesTooSoIGotOne
Agreed, but too often arguments like these are just deflections. "You can't define this, therefore we shouldn't do anything."
GoliathSkittles
Otherwise a "ban of guns" could bad nail guns or water guns or glue guns. An extreme example that wouldn't happen I know, but that's just >
Kodaxmax
So good, keep downvoting me because you refuse to educate yourself, enjoy your will-full ignorance.
Raenon
"Not all fully automatic firearms are machine guns."
Kodaxmax
where does it say that? i cant find it but now two people have mentioned it.
Kodaxmax
A machine gun is a fully automatic mounted or portable firearm designed to fire bullets in rapid succession- wikipeadia
GoliathSkittles
Did you happen to read the next line to that?
Kodaxmax
"tpically at a rate of 300 rounds per minute or higher." wat about it
Kodaxmax
shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger -ww.ATF.gov
Kodaxmax
actually thats exactly what they are. Machine gun literally just refers to machinery making the gun automatic. Research is hard?
pairofd
Machine gun refers to rather heavy belt fed guns. AFAIK. There might be some laws or whatever that group them with any auto gun but whatever
Kodaxmax
no it doesnt. i linked 5 or so definitons above from various source smarter than you.
pairofd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_machine_guns
necovex
So if you do some research you will see that we are both right. Us law states that any automatic weapon is a machine gun. To the rest of the
Kodaxmax
no it rly doesnt, i posted 5 sources above from actual sources
necovex
World a machine gun is a gun that is designed for sustained automatic fire, which a modified gun to fire automatic is not.
GoliathSkittles
Literally the second sentence on wikipedia proves you wrong. Apparently research is hard.
Kodaxmax
no it rly doesnt, i posted 5 sources above from actual sources
Kodaxmax
your clearly illiterate as well as ignorant, quite the wombo combo