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rockypecheur
A full PhD in 6 years from high school ?
DelicateLikeABomb
Shaodyn
Back in the day, if people said they "don't believe" science, we just called them idiots and laughed at them. We didn't say things like "Everyone has a right to their opinion."
latenightbreeze
Bullshit. Bacteria does more work.
lovingspace
I just had a guy on the internet tell me that I'm wrong about something I do for work because ChatGPT says so.
LakeRat129
I have told my students any reference they use in their reports must be in a standard format (IEEE preferred). NO DAMN WEB ADDRESS!
fendeele
guy on the internet right before saying bullshit: I took some chemistry classes back in high school,..
MCNewYorkLives
*that I failed
fendeele
yea, but that's just because the teacher didn't like me,,., and I didn't show up to most of the classes
UsernamesCanOnlyContainLettersAndNumbers
In Spain, it would be 4 years for a degree + 2 years for a master's + 6-8 years for a Ph.D. The Internet answer would be the same and with the same response time.
tzahtman
This post brought to you by that episode of Hannibal. You know the one.
Itwasmyname
#2 At least he's good to hang out with at parties.
FusRoDer
Omg. I fucking love your multi tiered joke that required extrapolation and implication. You are a fungi
GuyPilot
Here's a thought, professor : ignore trolls on the internet. Or, only post your research on sites where ppl are more professional, like LinkedIn. Meanwhile, reply with your actual research!! Let's pivot the conversation to your domain of expertise!!
psychologisttheologist
#1 my undergrad was 4, then masters was 2, then doctorate three more. This person got their PhD in three fewer years than I was allowed to?
PurifiedInTheWatersOfLakeMinnetonka
6 years for a PhD? Where????
Rendova
Try welding a Telugu Junior Diploma in Upper New England.
Zega000
Khaelix101
PhD in 6 years? Ok bud.
lncorrectGrammerNazi
Don't forget how trees get credited for all the oxygen in the atmosphere, but it's actually phytoplankton that do most of that work.
Monocular0
I give experts a lot of credence, but it’s also worth pointing out that having a lot of education doesn’t automatically make you right. Just look at Jordan Peterson.
sunnydayingermany
You are a fungi, but you are not a fun guy.
CapitalNick
#1 I posted this exact thing back at the height of Covid. Someone actually responded with some drivel about how their common sense is more reliable.
BythepowerofPlank
poor fungi
jayalbert1
*fun-guy*
Freak0zoid
You can’t kill me in a way that matters
dontforgettocheckforwifi
This seems like a reference, but it's escaping me at the moment :(
TheLastBootyBender
TheLastBootyBender
IM NOT SCARED OF YOU
Mechwarrior719
It’s okay. They know they’re an inescapable, functionally indestructible force of nature. Everything decays eventually
GnomeDeGuerre
The trees still remember the time before. When they were undigestible.
INeverWaitForIt
"It was three hundred million years of pure bliss. Then we became coal, just to further spite the fungus."
Mechwarrior719
That’ll show ‘em
llamasaylol
If he went to Stanford then the guy on the Internet may be right. They teach "fake it till you make it" there. I am joking ofc, just wanted to laugh at a terrible scandal.
brokehackfourlane
to be fair, as an academic researcher I can say that most of the published work out there is in fact bs.
ricpaul
Any source for that? I know that a lot of peer reviews are just superficial because they don't have the funds to do a full copy of all the research that has been done. One of the reasons we're still reading that vaccines cause autism... (The claim was total BS, lots of falsified data, but it took years before it was debunked and many still parrot it...)
brokehackfourlane
search for "reproducibility crisis" or take a look at "retraction watch".
wetAnimal
#1 where are we getting 3 year degrees and then goings straight into a PhD without a masters? Honestly even that person needs more school
RhinestoneSouron
If you do a 3 year degree then a 3 year PhD you are too much of a genius to care about what people are calling you online.
ArcanisTheOmnipotent
Who the hell is giving out phds after only 6 years?
wobblecopterrrr
That would be a fun extinction, civilization just slowly buried in leaves…
GrumpyOldMan55
Bullshit
ImJustSoFckingSickOfThisBllsht
Yes YES! Upvote the idiot. Feel the shame!
thatiscomedygoldrightthere
I see what you did there.
vigojones
blainetog
Yes, fungi eat that, too!
PartTimeViking
ethannguyen357
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+percent+of+photosynthesis+is+done+by+plants&oq=what+percent+of+photosynthesis+is+done+by+plants&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIKCAIQIRgWGB0YHtIBCTEyOTg0ajBqNKgCALACAA&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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hollenqual
Fungi grew on earth when nothing else could have grow, because the surface of earth was just rocks and minerals, a somewhat inhospitable place. Fungi "digested" all those minerals and rocks to more "friendly" compounds paving the way to plants. Fungi kingdom is responsible of life as we know it.
BillyM00n
Honestly asking: I was taught the biomass of past and present phytoplankton FAR outweighed anything on land, owing to the billion years it was basically the only thing that grew. Related, virtually all free oxygen was CO₂ until phytoplankton breathed it. Not so?
jennym123
Yeah but that's an official study, so it's bullshit. Sorry, them's the rules.
Foxsayy
Seeing that's how it's well known animals don't photosynthesize, I kind of doubt it was referring specifically to oxygen production.
Altanese
That doesn't mean fungi do the rest. Algae account for more than half, for instance.
FirmMolases
Where in the world are you getting a PhD in 3 years?
TheSilverSeraph
Took me 6 years, but I was a lazy shit and caused premature aging of my supervisors
DangerousNoodle
Law School is 3 years and technically is a PhD. It’s just referred to as a JD instead.
DangerousNoodle
I guess I should have worded that differently for people to understand. A PhD is doctorate degree and there are dozens of doctorate degrees depending on what you are in school for. MD, JD, Phd, EdD, etc. Doctorate programs can be 3 years or up to 7 or 8.
tirohtar
Yeah but you are still wrong - a PHD is generally a RESEARCH doctorate that has wildly more demanding research requirements than a JD, which is a PROFESSIONAL doctorate, and often doesn't require little more than taking courses and passing tests. They aren't interchangeable types of degrees. For example, an MD by itself doesn't necessarily qualify you to work in a research medical lab, unless you had a certain amount of research experience during the MD studies. Often MDs interested in 1/
tirohtar
Doing research will actually get a double MD/PHD degree to show they actually qualify for scientific work.
Akasharoo
Most of Europe has PhDs that are 3 years in length, with options to extend to a fourth (or more) year
Rosfmmmhzdrozzley
And less crazy, but a bachelor's in 3 as well? This guy/girl is flying through their studies
wetAnimal
Right after a only 3 year bachelor's with no masters in between?
tirohtar
It depends how you count. That first degree may be the masters? In Europe the bachelor, master, and phd degrees are usually completely separated, and they only count the time after the master as the time it took to get the phd. In the US, master and phd are often packaged together and you count the time after your bachelor as the time it took to get the phd. Some people don't even bother getting the master officially granted on the way. I started grad school in 2014 and got my phd in 2020. 1/
tirohtar
During that time I passed my qualifying exam and wrote a paper that got me a masters degree in 2016, but I didn't change programs or anything and just continued. So by the US way of counting I got my phd in 6 years, but by the European way it would be seen as 4 years. So 3 years is not unusual.
icouldtotallydoit
In Brazil it's 5 for degree, 3 for master and then 5 for PhD
Yakeshinu
Well, I received my 2 BSs (double major) in three years, but I CLEPed a lot of the gen-ed stuff. My master's took three-ish (should have been 2) due to difficulty finding viable participants for my thesis, but I took a lot of upper level courses to fill the time. So when I got to my doctoral program I had already fulfilled most of the coursework/publication requirements... But that's just me (and by that I mean I'm usually managing to be the outlier that I normally become annoyed by in my data)
Higure
After a master's degree, a PhD is 3 years here in Norway, although it's usually done at 75% speed over 4 years, with 25% teaching on the side.
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Higure
You're right about bachelor and master. But most doctorate positions that are advertised that I have seen (at universities and stuff) are 4 years, with an expectation of 25% teaching.
Smogy
I think in the UK and Germany that is the standard for a PhD.
Infinias
Depends on field. Medical doctor (allgemein Medizin - don't know how to translate that) is around that.
Snowentific
Generally in the UK you get 3, 3.5 or 4 years of funding. Universities tend to allow up to 4 or sometimes 5 years to complete.
CloudsandRainandSunandWind
The *theoretical* standard, at least in Germany. Don't know anyone who did it in 3 years, despite being a ph.d myself and knowing a bunch from various other fields, though.
hardytardigrade
Europe?
FirmMolases
In Europe the norm is to get a masters first which isn’t mentioned in the post. Still typically looking at likely 4 years post masters. Admittedly European higher education is not something I’m very familiar with and this statement is based on friends and colleagues that have done it there.
CloudsandRainandSunandWind
True. Source: am European ph.d
JoshuaFalken
Maybe just a super aggressive course load? 30 hours /year? Now that I'm typing it, I can't see how it would be possible.
wetAnimal
That's not really how PhDs work, you take some courses but it wouldn't matter if you crammed them all into even just 1 semester because getting a PhD is mostly about doing your own research, rigorous, peer reviewed research!! The peer review process is long!! You have to do research on other peoples research to prove you research contributes something new, then you need to go through ethical review of your proposal, then you do the research, and all that's just to STARTED.
ElbowDeepInTheElbowDeepBandwagon
I'm confused on your 30 hours/year not being possible. I've been doing summer courses for the last two years, so three semesters a year, my course load was 16 spring, 12 summer, 16 fall, 16 spring, 14 summer, and Fall semester starting Tuesday will be 17 hours. 32+12=44 first year, this year 16+14+17=47 hours.
JoshuaFalken
Undergrad or graduate classes? Are you working? Kids to take care of? Full time course load for a graduate student is 9 hours. Required courses offering only a single section per year and prerequisites could also make this impossible. A full time grad student taking four courses a semester and two summer courses would be ALOT, but could get you to 30 hours a year. But that would be on top of any teaching requirements AND a dissertation. There's just no way.
ElbowDeepInTheElbowDeepBandwagon
Ahhh, gotcha. I do have kids, but I'm a full time undergraduate, not working.
DangerousNoodle
I see. Undergrad course loads are not the same as Graduate and PhD course loads but I think it’s easy to misunderstand. I didn’t realize Graduate programs are considered full time at 6 credits until I entered one myself!
DangerousNoodle
Yeah, I’m in a full course graduate program at 9 credits per spring and fall semester, 6 in the summer. That’s 24 credits per year and it’s draining with a full time job on top of it.
FirmMolases
Perhaps course heavy PhDs exist in disciplines I’m less familiar with but every one I am familiar with, course load is relatively minimal and the vast majority of time is spent on research and analysis. Typically 5 years is the bare minimum and 6+ is the norm (depending on what you’re doing and if your advisor is a colossal ass)
FerociousYawn
In the UK if you're really good you can finish in three years, but you must be able to write up while doing experiments (I'm talking from a STEM background). Otherwise usually PhDs are four years long
JoshuaFalken
Most PhD programs I've seen require 90 hours of graduate level coursework on top of the research/dissertation and teaching requirements
zerogiven
But after the first year or so, the coursework is still peripheral to the research and teaching which are the main draws on the student's time. I've never met anyone who says "I'm almost done with my PhD, but I still have some courses left to take."