I did the English subtitles. I heard "Gochendo" (Having fun) but in Spain they use "Gochear" to mean they are looking for good food and drinks... which I don't think is an actual recognized word? https://dle.rae.es/goxe
I’d love to see more metal plates being used as delivery for burgers. Take out fine, but if you’re stopping in for a burger these elaborate packages add nothing to the meal.
While I don't see this as a "great for partying" container, it certainly is the best street stall setup I've ever seen.
The temp transfer isn't really a thing that bothers me. Heat rises and would take a while for the drink or hot food to affect each other. This isnt exactly food you take an hour to eat.
I would add a lid to stop salt and seasonings from getting in my drink.
As far as "To-Go/Walk and Eat" arrangements go, this is pretty damn brilliant.
Agreed. One hand operation, works for me. Except I tend to eat the fries first, so I'd want the sandwich (maybe wrapped in paper) on the bottom, and the fries on top.
Indeed. It's not perfect, but defo my favorite one I've seen yet.
I'm sure they'd layer it in that order if you asked them.
Tried to find a picture, but I did see one that had more of a tray sitting over the drink, but it was really wide and made it had to get to the straw. Long hair would be all in the food.
There's a place in a small town in Colorado that sells only french fries. The menu only offers all the different dipping sauces. The fries come in this kind of a cone, huge portions, hot and salty. Brilliant concept, best fries ever.
My Grandfather actually designed something similar back in 1963, he showed it to the people at McDonalds to see if they were interested in buying it and they simply laughed in his face. Then, years later, my Grandfather visited the Bronx zoo and had his knackers ripped off by an escaped gorilla.
I was thinking more about all the little crumbles: fry bits, salt, chicken breading or bun bits(sesame seed, breadcrumbs). I didn't even consider the wets
But also simple things like this will get redisgned so you don't make a dime. But don't doubt there will be some money to be made by the manufacturers.
30 years in the fiberboard packaging business and I can tell you the only rich people are Sales and CEOs. They create nothing and keep all the profits.
Can you name an example? I seems like I'd believe, I just can't remember something as established as a burger combo disrupt a market by being repackaged (why TF am I thinking about tide pods now...)
Gotcha. Yea some good examples already listed, but more than just unique package DESIGNS aside, theres currently lots of innovation and profiting from real time onsite custom packaging solutions. Companies make machines now that can make a custom box for a client right on site. They make a killing selling these machines.... and then of course supplying the raw materials necessary to keep them going. $$$ everywhere in packaging.
I couldn't get a good look but I thinkit has a space between the top of the cup and bottom of the food or an "air pocket" which would help insulate the two. air does a pretty good job as an insulator. whats really going to make your drink warm his your hand and the sun shinning on it. I like the concept and hate those flimsy square cardboard boxes. I'd like to see it after a heap of greasy fries and a burger have been sitting on it for five minutes though.
No. Heat rises, & cold sinks. The drink stays cold cuz it's on the bottom. The food stays hot because it's not under the cold drink. Simple & effective. The physics all check.
Yes, if you're looking at two completely separate systems. However due to the cardboard, there's a physical medium between them so the heat is going to be transferred.
Yes, until the cardboard is saturated with oil from your fries dripping down into your drink down below. So not only is your oily cardboard going to act as a heating source not an insulator, you're now going to have wet nasty cardboard and oily cardboard right next to each other
No. Heat rises, & cold sinks. The drink stays cold cuz it's on the bottom. The food stays hot because it's not under the cold drink. Simple & effective. The physics all check.
There's a piece of cardboard and an effectively insulated pocket of air between the drink and the food, the difference in convection rate going up or down is almost irrelevant here
Correct. Not to mention, both hot & cold items diminish in mass as they're consumed (which is the point of separating them in the first place), which also mitigates their respective transference rates to a diminishing curve rather than a constant.
It's not gonna be perfect temperature isolation, but for mobile street food and drink, this is an economical and mobile f**king good idea. Why is pizza such good street food? Mobility (plus taste / price point). This should be done worldwide. Damn good idea.
Sorry but your physics does not check out. "Heat rises and cold sinks" applies to convection (e.g. air in a room, water in a boiler), but it is only one mode of heat transfer out of three. The other two, conduction (e.g. heat spreading along a metal bar) and radiation (e.g. heat we receive from the sun) do not care about such a rule. Heat is transferred from a hot body to a cold body (in this instance, from the fries towards the drink).
Radiant heat transference is still limited by the cardboard insulation. In the time it takes to consume the hot food and the cold drink, the transference rate is negligible. Were their positions reversed, and the entire package left untouched for an hour, temperature equilibrium would be reached, but again, the amount of time allotted for that to occur is a key element in this equation as well as relative position and insulation between the 2 thermal units.
If you put hot food below a cold drink it'll equalise much faster, because with cardboard and air in between heat transfer by conduction and radiation will be low.
The food will radiate heat in all directions. Not just up. If you put your hand beneath a hot coal, you will still feel the heat coming off of it. This contraption is better than having the food beneath the drink but, yes, the hot food will cause the drink to warm.
It's minimal unless it's in very close proximity. There's a cardboard barrier and an air gap between the drink and the food. Your hand around the cup itself would heat it up more with direct transference.
For example, you can get your fingers awfully close to the side of a candle's flame for some time without getting burned. But just a second or two at the same distance above it will burn you.
A hot coal? Get real. A hot coal radiates a whole lot more heat than an order of fries, which you can hold in your hands. Admit it, you're just arguing for the sake of argument. The physics still check. Your hand will warm the drink a whole lot faster than any hot food separated from it by a layer of cardboard and positioned above it will.
Homie, have you ever put a pizza box on your lap while in transit. Did you feel the hot pizza on your lap? The heat will also travel to the beverage because they’re touching (conduction?)
You mean a pizza that just came out of a 500º oven? No. That goes on the floor so it doesn't have any further to fall when I slam on the brakes (btdt). But I will eat the hot fries while I'm pulling out of the parking lot of the drive-thru without burning my fingers or the roof of my mouth (unlike the pizza). Were you implying they're the same temperature, mass, or cooling rate as a pizza box sitting directly on my lap? A large pizza is at least 40 times the mass of some loose fries, homie.
No heat diffuses from areas of high heat to areas of low heat. If you doubt this hold a metal rod upright with bare hands and heat the top of the rod with a blow torch and see if the bottom of the rod remains cold. Source: high school physics.
That's direct conduction. Completely different kind of heat transference. You need to take a few more science classes. We're talking about convection here, not conduction.
Perhaps reread your own comment where you rather boldly state that 'heat rises, & cold sinks'. You want to make scientific statements? Be less ambiguous in the language you use.
Keeping it simple. The metal rod/ blowtorch model is completely different (in both scale and transference type) than two food products separated from each other by an insulation layer of cardboard. When did the fries equal the heat of a blowtorch? Jeez dude. Maybe switch to decaf.
StuckintheVoid
¡Cállate y toma mi dinero!
Howlingowl
Who doesn’t love crumbs in their drink?
manhands
Jason Fakeman
BobisBobIsHimIsMe
“ La patattas “
You had me at potatoes
2015Camry
Somebody walk me through the word goxeando. That’s new to me. Gozar but not quite?
SennenGoroshi
I did the English subtitles. I heard "Gochendo" (Having fun) but in Spain they use "Gochear" to mean they are looking for good food and drinks... which I don't think is an actual recognized word? https://dle.rae.es/goxe
PloppyFenis
Store brand Jason Bateman
OBM1
Estamos? Estamos!
joot
ziph3326
This might have prevented the Franchise Wars back in ‘93?!
notifybay151
LifeOfaTeenageTurtle
Not gonna work in US, food too greasy
alittlebitbored
I’d love to see more metal plates being used as delivery for burgers. Take out fine, but if you’re stopping in for a burger these elaborate packages add nothing to the meal.
renamingbecauseIdontcarefordaddiesofbusiness
I don't want him touching my straw
AtomicChipmunk
Might aswell just lick his hands at this point
noneurs
He is....
stoots24
Less garbage than the usual fast food meal in the US.
gortiz74
just got back from that brilliant country.
this is how they do it man. they have fun and chill with simple but brutal efficiency
ioscius
TIL the most American thing I ever saw is from Spain
mySweetAnus
Spanish Jason Bateman selling hard! "Never touch the Cornballer!"
yourbassist
Yes, but to be a pedant, that's a George product, something Michael never sold.
cbjfan
freezingpilot
Yo soy loco por los cornballs!!!
CrumpetsWithHoneyAreCrumpetsWithBeeVomit
I saw the doppelganger and knew. But "Spanish Jason Bateman"
made my day...😅
TuneInTonight
There's always money in the hamburger stand.
PastureofMuppets
Tch tch!
SteerpikeSteerpike
While I don't see this as a "great for partying" container, it certainly is the best street stall setup I've ever seen.
The temp transfer isn't really a thing that bothers me. Heat rises and would take a while for the drink or hot food to affect each other. This isnt exactly food you take an hour to eat.
I would add a lid to stop salt and seasonings from getting in my drink.
As far as "To-Go/Walk and Eat" arrangements go, this is pretty damn brilliant.
spontaneous9
Agreed. One hand operation, works for me. Except I tend to eat the fries first, so I'd want the sandwich (maybe wrapped in paper) on the bottom, and the fries on top.
SteerpikeSteerpike
Indeed. It's not perfect, but defo my favorite one I've seen yet.
I'm sure they'd layer it in that order if you asked them.
Tried to find a picture, but I did see one that had more of a tray sitting over the drink, but it was really wide and made it had to get to the straw. Long hair would be all in the food.
Jbelkin
At the ballpark in America, we can get it all over a 84 oz drink ... 10 years behind the times, dude.
lbcody
There's a place in a small town in Colorado that sells only french fries. The menu only offers all the different dipping sauces. The fries come in this kind of a cone, huge portions, hot and salty. Brilliant concept, best fries ever.
qwertdeep
This is the typical way that Belgium fries are sold in Belgium
qwertdeep
You would love Brussels but perhaps not the price
Theshnazzyone
Personal reasons? Please don't fuck the sandwich OP
Euchre
They gotta eat it, not you.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
now sure about OP, but
SennenGoroshi
Killjoy
ChimkenDumplin
No, they're right. Sandwiches aren't structurally made for fucking. It's too rough. Make sweet tender love to the sandwich, OP.
SennenGoroshi
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
My Grandfather actually designed something similar back in 1963, he showed it to the people at McDonalds to see if they were interested in buying it and they simply laughed in his face. Then, years later, my Grandfather visited the Bronx zoo and had his knackers ripped off by an escaped gorilla.
PastureofMuppets
*knickers are short pants. Knackers boil dead horses for glue.
SennenGoroshi
At least he wasn't beat with jumper cables.
Madchant
mmmm, all the grease and sauce dripping into my drink.
zombiebatman
Little chunkies of breading. Yum!
Euchre
Only if you have really juicy, greasy, or heavily sauced foods. Could also be refined so the flap dividing it is snug enough to be watertight.
pullingsixty
It's a feature, not a bug.
secondtrumpet
I was thinking more about all the little crumbles: fry bits, salt, chicken breading or bun bits(sesame seed, breadcrumbs). I didn't even consider the wets
Nightcaste
It all makes a turd...
ThatSonOfaBitch
How did you become a multimillionaire? "I folded cardboard and poked some holes in it."
sgnight13
IIRC there was a romcom that used this to explain why the leading man never had to work
PinkEater
Ihadsexwithadragonlastnight
Watch it, mr. Sediment is my best friend and has been with me through my toughest times
PinkEater
That is what a solid friend does and it makes that friendship rock solid.
RogueEnthusiast
You joke but for a large amount of people throughout history it was literally that easy.
Atomic2
You jest but packaging is a HUGE industry. Hundreds of $Bs. A breakthrough product in packaging WILL make you rich.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
But also simple things like this will get redisgned so you don't make a dime. But don't doubt there will be some money to be made by the manufacturers.
MadamPuddifoot
Work in a paper factory, can confirm. They create some crazy shit!
cmdshift3
30 years in the fiberboard packaging business and I can tell you the only rich people are Sales and CEOs. They create nothing and keep all the profits.
annonymouse211
Tryin to come up with some clever new packaging idea so I can quit my day job.
johnnyshitknucklez
Same lmao
JacktheKind
Can you name an example? I seems like I'd believe, I just can't remember something as established as a burger combo disrupt a market by being repackaged (why TF am I thinking about tide pods now...)
HOAMTH
Think of those typical chinese takeout containers. Those are bought and used in huge numbers everyday.
JacktheKind
exellent example. Thanks for bringing it up, I get it now
Atomic2
I'm not sure I understand what you're even saying.
JacktheKind
Thanks for asking to clarify:
what comes to mind, where the product was revolutionary or a commercial success because of the packaging?
Atomic2
Gotcha. Yea some good examples already listed, but more than just unique package DESIGNS aside, theres currently lots of innovation and profiting from real time onsite custom packaging solutions. Companies make machines now that can make a custom box for a client right on site. They make a killing selling these machines.... and then of course supplying the raw materials necessary to keep them going. $$$ everywhere in packaging.
SennenGoroshi
It's not the product in the packaging; the packaging itself is often patented and royalties are paid for packaging methods.
Kavrae
McDonalds drink carrier recreation. Pizza boxes (so it's one piece that's folded) when they added the corner fold. Lot of little things like that.
JacktheKind
xellent example. Thanks for bringing it up, I get it now!
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thebigbaka
They usually eat all my fries before going to the Burger
SteerpikeSteerpike
Ask them, and they'll load it up that way. It's not an unusual request.
SennenGoroshi
Put the burger in your armpit to keep it warm while you eat the fries.
ChimkenDumplin
Who's "they"? Don't let them eat your food. Kick them.
thebigbaka
ChimkenDumplin
Well, that's just medically inadvisable.
Akaszkronos
So hot drink or cold fries?
DrKonrad
yes
rbudrick
If it's a festival or concert yer getting em meh either way.
Montybar
Heat rises?
unforgivablegrammar
I couldn't get a good look but I thinkit has a space between the top of the cup and bottom of the food or an "air pocket" which would help insulate the two. air does a pretty good job as an insulator. whats really going to make your drink warm his your hand and the sun shinning on it. I like the concept and hate those flimsy square cardboard boxes. I'd like to see it after a heap of greasy fries and a burger have been sitting on it for five minutes though.
SennenGoroshi
lukewarm drink with fry seasoning throughout, most likely
Noahbalboa82
Just goes I like it
spontaneous9
No. Heat rises, & cold sinks. The drink stays cold cuz it's on the bottom. The food stays hot because it's not under the cold drink. Simple & effective. The physics all check.
gir2195
I opened this comment as I was saying this out loud...good on you.
staceBugTerror
Same
spontaneous9
safetymonkey
Yes, if you're looking at two completely separate systems. However due to the cardboard, there's a physical medium between them so the heat is going to be transferred.
spontaneous9
That layer acts as an insulator, not a conductor. Kind of the whole idea here. Eat your lunch, it's getting cold.
safetymonkey
Yes, until the cardboard is saturated with oil from your fries dripping down into your drink down below. So not only is your oily cardboard going to act as a heating source not an insulator, you're now going to have wet nasty cardboard and oily cardboard right next to each other
spontaneous9
No. Heat rises, & cold sinks. The drink stays cold cuz it's on the bottom. The food stays hot because it's not under the cold drink. Simple & effective. The physics all check.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Oh my. Thats only one aspect of the physics going on.
spontaneous9
Correct, the other one being speed of mastication.
ilikehornets
There's a piece of cardboard and an effectively insulated pocket of air between the drink and the food, the difference in convection rate going up or down is almost irrelevant here
spontaneous9
Correct. Not to mention, both hot & cold items diminish in mass as they're consumed (which is the point of separating them in the first place), which also mitigates their respective transference rates to a diminishing curve rather than a constant.
stonecoldstevebuschemi
It's not gonna be perfect temperature isolation, but for mobile street food and drink, this is an economical and mobile f**king good idea. Why is pizza such good street food? Mobility (plus taste / price point). This should be done worldwide. Damn good idea.
DrKonrad
Sorry but your physics does not check out. "Heat rises and cold sinks" applies to convection (e.g. air in a room, water in a boiler), but it is only one mode of heat transfer out of three. The other two, conduction (e.g. heat spreading along a metal bar) and radiation (e.g. heat we receive from the sun) do not care about such a rule. Heat is transferred from a hot body to a cold body (in this instance, from the fries towards the drink).
spontaneous9
Radiant heat transference is still limited by the cardboard insulation. In the time it takes to consume the hot food and the cold drink, the transference rate is negligible. Were their positions reversed, and the entire package left untouched for an hour, temperature equilibrium would be reached, but again, the amount of time allotted for that to occur is a key element in this equation as well as relative position and insulation between the 2 thermal units.
TheFishFace
If you put hot food below a cold drink it'll equalise much faster, because with cardboard and air in between heat transfer by conduction and radiation will be low.
nurmich
The food will radiate heat in all directions. Not just up. If you put your hand beneath a hot coal, you will still feel the heat coming off of it. This contraption is better than having the food beneath the drink but, yes, the hot food will cause the drink to warm.
Akurei00
It's minimal unless it's in very close proximity. There's a cardboard barrier and an air gap between the drink and the food. Your hand around the cup itself would heat it up more with direct transference.
For example, you can get your fingers awfully close to the side of a candle's flame for some time without getting burned. But just a second or two at the same distance above it will burn you.
RootMeanSqr
Putting it all in your pie hole will make it all reach the same temperature more quickly.
ChimkenDumplin
The hot weather will do that anyway.
Sipmonsnsn
That is true but radiation is a lot less effective than convection through air.
spontaneous9
A hot coal? Get real. A hot coal radiates a whole lot more heat than an order of fries, which you can hold in your hands. Admit it, you're just arguing for the sake of argument. The physics still check.
Your hand will warm the drink a whole lot faster than any hot food separated from it by a layer of cardboard and positioned above it will.
RoyalWithChz
Homie, have you ever put a pizza box on your lap while in transit. Did you feel the hot pizza on your lap? The heat will also travel to the beverage because they’re touching (conduction?)
spontaneous9
You mean a pizza that just came out of a 500º oven? No. That goes on the floor so it doesn't have any further to fall when I slam on the brakes (btdt). But I will eat the hot fries while I'm pulling out of the parking lot of the drive-thru without burning my fingers or the roof of my mouth (unlike the pizza). Were you implying they're the same temperature, mass, or cooling rate as a pizza box sitting directly on my lap? A large pizza is at least 40 times the mass of some loose fries, homie.
DuineSgith
No heat diffuses from areas of high heat to areas of low heat. If you doubt this hold a metal rod upright with bare hands and heat the top of the rod with a blow torch and see if the bottom of the rod remains cold. Source: high school physics.
TheFishFace
Air and cardboard being notorious for conducting heat as well as metal?
spontaneous9
That's direct conduction. Completely different kind of heat transference. You need to take a few more science classes. We're talking about convection here, not conduction.
DuineSgith
Perhaps reread your own comment where you rather boldly state that 'heat rises, & cold sinks'. You want to make scientific statements? Be less ambiguous in the language you use.
spontaneous9
Keeping it simple. The metal rod/ blowtorch model is completely different (in both scale and transference type) than two food products separated from each other by an insulation layer of cardboard.
When did the fries equal the heat of a blowtorch? Jeez dude. Maybe switch to decaf.