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Popspoppingit
Not trying to excuse it, but certain jobs can cause stress to the point where things like this happen. may or may not be this, but possible.
Maxbaron10
Everybody goes to sleep eventually...ladies, think about that just in case..
FreshNews247
Remember that cop who sniffed that young girls underwear during a open house? That's fucked.
Theonewiththesandwich
They need to learn to not bring their work home with them.
fumpst781
For me it's turning their sirens on just to get through a light. It's that kind of "fuck you, I'm above this" that's insidious.
ReturnOfFreudberg
they see some shit and it's a terrifying job but it's no excuse.
willpostanything
So far..
bippityboppitybuttsex
https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says
"Of all the cases, police officers who were arrested, charged, and convicted of abuse, more than half kept their jobs."
foxatomic
Dads a retired RCMP sgt. put my mother and me through hell. I’ve always had trust issues with police & other authority.
fortherecipes
Police beat, firefighters cheat
SpeedBeetle
That type of career attracts specific types of people and reinforces certain attributes. I'm not surprised.
aTallIrishman
Gonna nead a source for that
HiddenSanity
Now, be fair, some of them beat their husbands.
RandomMemmer
https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says study done in the 90s. Prob stil has merit
Vaanhalen
Weird seeing a link of actual substance on imgur. Good job
Lordmongoose
study appears to be only 500 officers in AZ area in 1988. Small sample size, in limited scope, and old, Probably need to be redone.
Spartavius
Definitely, especially after mental health care was prioritized for police.
TheRicM
It’s not even that old, the 90s was 11 years ago
SharkyMcSnarkface
This is probably some advanced joke I can’t quite figure out.
Yeah it's a somewhat common thing
It's been around a while lol
Zomjb83
Bully in, bully out
Nlchacon
Oddly enough I've heard of this from friends who dates cops.
CGWN
It's an accepted truth that bad people are drawn to police work in America, but good officers are also radicalized by those around them.
1skin2skin3skin
Ah the thin blue union
whatwouldyoulikefordinner
Or burnt out. My hus. does his best to leave ppl with warnings, talk to youth, etc. with all this and mgt that doesn’t give a shit, he’s dun
YouMadeMeSignIn
"Worst day of your life so far."
Danniboy27
Source? Too much hate without sources for my liking at the moment. I don't doubt the % is high, but this seems fake to start shit
blueyedwineaux
My ex was a cop. Never hit me but emotionally abusive to the max. Stalked me for 2 years after I left.
thefrayedendsofsanity
Sorry you went through that.
languidlangosta
I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I hope you're in a much better place
AllAroundSad
Investigating*
ynotbu
Therefore all cops are assholes, just kidding but not!
MusicMan135
Missed the part where they insinuated that. Kidding, but not.
idontwannagomrstark
Not all are. Just my ex.
Mustardisfood
All cops
Zeth0
No, not all cops. Those that are bad and those that cover for them are also bad. Its too many, but it is not all.
They all uphold oppression. The very nature of police is oppression. "I'm just following orders." Maybe it would be different if they fix 13
AdmiralAlbatross
Enough cops.
DoublevBomb
Just wait until you see their rates of substance abuse and suicide.
xxbiohazrdxx
whatever they are, its not high enough
undeadhobo
Man, even cops cant escape police brutality. Theyre even killing themselves.
EbenezerStooge
https://www.addictioncenter.com/news/2019/09/police-at-highest-risk-for-suicide-than-any-profession/
philosoraptopterodactyl
is this just American cops or everywhere?
It's a US center, so probably just US police
kagapeme
I totally misread the title...
SkeltonMoppy
I'd bet you'd still call those big bad cops if you had a problem, beta
Oh that's right they help people sometimes which means they can do whatever they want the rest of the time
thepikachubandit24
Yeah, by this logic doctors should get a free kill for every life they save
Not to shabby.
zr7s007
fake
155DangerClose
If you believe that statistic you have shit for brains
jojoyojimbi
i found the cop guys
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
nah just a boot licker.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Not even a cop, probably a 2A pretend action hero
Found the shit for brains
115 DANGER CLOSE MILITARY AMERICA FUCKIN A COPS GO GET THOSE LOOTIN' TOOTIN' SONS O BITCHES HOORAH
yes? it's bad to think looters should be shot now?
Didn't say anything about shooting but sure shira law does dictate that thievery is punishable by death
whatever you say bud, see ya at the protests
Sugarbritches21
I've got amazing cop friends that will go out of their way to give you the shirt off their backs. Not all cops are bad. Not all are good
You've solved it. Thanks man.
Janewaygottheminivanstarship
Not all cops lol really? That isnt the point right now. The point is that they can kill without repercussion and are more likely to be viole
I get the point of the protesting I really do. Imgur sure is hostile right nkw. I'm gonna lay low for a few days. Y'all take care
Sorry for coming off aggressive. I had a traumatic day protesting that day. Please stay in the conversation.
I'm sorry you had a traumatic day protesting. I'd hug you if I could but social distancing
Ocek
Didn't want to be the one to say it but correlation =/= causation. A lot of people assume bad people become cops, but it's also possible
PennysWorthOfTea
So, folks become cops because they're assholes and being a cop turns you into an asshole. Two routes to the same end. ACAB.
One we have some control over, the other we don't, it's good to identify what we can do to improve it.
that being a cop means you're exposed to situations that are more likely to mold you into a more aggressive person.
Scipio1770
These are not mutually exclusive things.
Never said they were, but if you read the comments there's a definite insinuation in one direction.
WardSharlow
How is that any better?
Because assuming someone is fundamentally a bad person means you're less likely to help them.
My job isn't to help them. Their job is literally to help me.
Also, fuck you if you can't go home and NOT beat your wife.
Would you make this argument against doctors? Their job literally is to help you, yet they have the highest suicide rate of any profession.
I think I understand what you are confused about. No one is saying to not put them in jail. I'm talking about prevention.
I think I understand your confusion, no one is saying to help them after they commit the crime. I'm talking about prevention.
If they have a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction they cannot carry a firearm and cannot be a cop any more.
marvelousx
Neither is murdering innocent civilians, but have you looked outside lately?
NeynasGhost
Isn't a huge part of the protesting going on about this thing where cops don't get convicted of stuff?
boomroasted
Conviction... bwahahaha
justletmelogin
If...
Zyrixion
I'd note that the post says 'reported' and not 'convicted', which is an important distinction.
mothernature94
Yes, but even if they're arrested for domestic violence, the charges can be dropped. Even if they do go to court, the charges can be changed
Ex: arrested for domestic battery, but charges can be reduced to disorderly conduct.
DVSBSTrD
*should* not be a cop anymore.
iQuitlmgurAndNeverLookedBack
Loophole: Disgraced DV Sheriff Deputies keep their Pensions by simply transferring to a Jailer position. Mean as fuck too because...
...they're mocked / ridiculed by their own, as well as the inmate population.
dasoffendor
is that a federal law or something else?
Fasrill
No, just a tribal mentality.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1117-restrictions-possession-firearms-individuals-convicted
Not at all.
Since it's abundantly clear that cops wont stop other cops from commiting major felonies, do you really think misdemeanours are relevant?
justvenomcake
Yes, because they probably got it before they could even join.
kazini
Evidently not, if the statistic is for cops specifically being charged. Therefore after they are already cops.
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
A study found cops are less likely to be convicted of a felony even as a civilian when compared to their non officer civilian counterparts
IronGravyBoat
Your username is relevant at least.
No1 beats me at donut eating!!! No one!!!
One reason they argue is because the convicted officers case is usually dealt with by their OWN precinct (you know where their friends work)
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/13/17938234/police-shootings-killings-prosecutions-court
Variadicism
The source for the data in this article is broken. https://www.unlawfulshield.com/2018/07/what-happened-to-policemisconduct-net/
InfocalypseRising
I worked at a restaurant where a group of cops would come in regularly, they were always the loudest and drunkest and refused to leave
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DarkMoon159
Good tips though?
GinOClock
Doubtful
Daymaster1
I ok once asked a guy to see his ID with a credit card, and he said to me "I'm a police chief". Good for you ID please.
Kris10MkKamble
Very cop I’ve drank with was doing coke and driving home drunk regularly the 90’s where so safe
DatPudding
Bartending for cops is one of the best and worst times you'll have as a bartender trust..
TarrkertheNewt
Somewhere along the line our cops became soldiers. x_x
FrogNamedKitty
I worked at a gas station overnight and they'd usually come in for coffee and to meet up and chat with each other. They were very nice and I
felt safer working by myself when they showed up.
Urgentinsurgent
Sure, along with groups of white women, young black men, Indian dudes, Arab families (just being loud though, no drinking). People are loud
mzturk144
You were a server too lol ?
shaggy715
Weird, in contrast, the restaurant i work at in Birmingham has some really nice cops and just 1 evil, creepy prick
bgeezus
That's the bad apple, don't worry they've got their eye on him.
You can tell so much about a person by how they treat people in the service sector.
TubOfButtah
It makes me wonder what the ratio of good to bad cops needs to be before the good cops themselves don't feel the power to speak up
headloser
simple, video record it. Now show it to the TV news station. Good luck on trying to get out of that cops.
I call bullshit. You seem like a trouble maker.
drcookieninja
Not sure if it's different in the States, but here in Canada, I know a lot of really nice cops. They're always out in the community.
MithridateEupator
Cops have a duty to the public, when they are bad it sticks in people's minds.
FlyingDorito
Yup, there are, but I have also met some cops who shouldn't be cops.
TooDoggoneFunny
Here in Canada, I know several good police officers who have donated a lot of time to non profit groups for the benefit of our community.
I think a difference may be that cops have more training here and higher bar to even enter academy. Pay is hella good, we talking 100k+ w/OT
LadyArwen
I’m a server in Toronto & cops here are exceptionally nice. Tho I’ve also felt irrationally attacked by police in random citizen encounters.
plainoldusername
Always had positive interactions with local pd. One officer even took me to the gas station when I ran out
vobra
Yea it’s different in the states unless by out in the community you mean out bullying the community
heartlessninja6
Quit yer bragging Canada!
There are definitely bad ones causing problems in the community, but those good stories don't get shared in these threads.
StarkTangent
Oh shut the fuck up. We can talk about good cops when the bad one stop fucking killing innocent black people
Yeah sorry mate. Didn't mean to dilute the issues in America. Just thought some positivity might be nice. Don't pay me any attention.
cheddarjacktees
He's talking about in Canada you walnut, I understand you're frustrated but take your finger off the trigger
Yeah man I get that he’s talking about canada but if I’m honest, I’m not fucking worried about Canada atm. Pretty common knowledge that 1/2
"What you gonna do, call the cops? BWAHAHAHAHA!"
Odmanra
Put eye drop in the next round!
dudeloveall
That’s how the health department, building inspectors, and ABC all come out to do an audit on the same day
bambulina
Nope. Their mothers.
Howdoilife
My former neighbor was a cop and used this exact line when people complained to him about setting off pipe bombs in his backyard for fun.
HellaFishsticks
Thugs with badges.
Ffudmethen
The biggest gang in the nation and they typically are above the law
IllidanStormrageDidNothingWrong
Some with vadges
NewLifeNewNameNoOneWillFindMeHere
Less of those are thugs, at least in my experience.
NakedDannyDevito
seems like a silly statement to make if you give it a quick google.
NapoleonDynOmite
I used to be a cook and and a group of us used to go to a bar and we'd be the loudest and drunkest and refused to leave and fight>>>
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Yea, former chef too. Obvs we're fucked but maybe hold ppl whose job it is to enforce the law to a higher standard?
Manyak3ars
Relax, he’s saying what he experienced. Why did you get so pressed and defensive?
Dated several cooks and you guys are completely psychotic, but you're only cooking food. Not carrying firearms and using them on civilians
RedLaserBeam
Yeah but everyone knows cooks like to party.
Wanna go to a party Barbie?
My name is Phil and I like to party
and do lots of cocaine.
Heroin
commentsivehadafew
Unfortunately police work is appealing to that kind of person
FlamedLion
Maybe I he work helps fully make that type of person?
*the
oblimo
I may be nostalgic, but I really think that became institutionalized with the "warrior" ethos of the last 2 generations of cops in the US /
It sounds so naive, but "Think you're patrolling Mayberry, not freaking Fallujah," rings true to me.
Everythingisracist
Sublimation
aahoss
Bad people are drawn to power. Also, power tends to corrupt people. Makes the govt a cesspool
Scarfaceeightsix
So let's have socialism and give the government more power.
alticaarden
I remember someone saying to become a cop you must either really love or really hate humanity
yallmfsneedjesus
YES. Same thing with pedophiles. People think being a celibate priest turns them. NO. Its an easy place to hide. No one questions why you...
..are not married, its a position of authority and routine access to children. Bad people are attracted to positions that allow them to hide
nobodywhatsoever
That kind of person is appealing to police forces
HectoProtecto
That number seems really high but I will say I know a cop that put hands on his now ex wife
CreaturesThatCrawl
Yup. Which is why we need to reform the requirements so these assholes have a better chance of not making it!
squashpirates
Lottery system to replace one congressman per state. Too crazy?
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
I know a guy who desperately wants to be a police officer but can't pass initial testing. Based on his personality, 100% he would be a shit
junk4u
Precisely, people tend to say “Power corrupts”, but it’s more like “Corrupted people are attracted to power”.
PlaidBastard
A little of that, a little of power giving you tools and a motivation to do things to keep power, *and* power being quite *able* to corrupt.
Nefel
“Power doesn't always corrupt, power always reveals. When you have enough power to do what you always wanted to do,
then you see what the guy always wanted to do.” - Robert Caro, speaking of Lyndon B. Johnson
Bioslate
It's the same reason why the p3dos are found in schools, churches, camps, etc. If you "like" kids, you'll gravitate towards jobs with them.
Taxicat
Not just jobs involving children, but jobs that involve having AUTHORITY over them and the absolute trust of the parents.
Not all of them, but a startling amount.
Metalgearslade
Nothing like getting the facts from somebody in the field. Cheers.
To me it's definitely both, but I guess there's not really a way to prove either
It becomes a self-perpetuating cycle: corrupt people are attracted to power and seek it out, once they get it they change the >
>rules to encourage more corruption, etc.
BobHubert
The point can also be drawn that the stress of the job leads to it as well yes? Is that wrong?
babybirdx3
Stress on the job corrupts people and causes domestic violence? Yeah, that's wrong. People have choices over how they behave.
They do but people who have such such stress on their life lead to more cases of domestic violence. That’s why you see more cases in lower
Income areas etc
That's actually not true. Domesric violence is not isolated by social class, education leve, etc. DV is about personality and control.
When all you focus on is negative, it can get to you for sure. I think there should be a focus on law enforcement officer's mental health
The same for veterans
Highly agreed
jkeezie
Maybe? Does that make it okay? "Oh they're in dangerous situations a lot. They should let off their steams SOME how." right?
Not an excuse, just an explanation
'Why did he kill all those people?' 'The rod through his head.' 'God, that's sad.' 'Yeah, fucked up.' That's the read I got.
No abuser gets an excuse, but they all have a reason, and we might help people not become abusers if we understand them.
That's a good point.
We can slay monsters til the end of time, or we can destroy the habitat where they're made and stop having so fucking many of them.
Popspoppingit
Not trying to excuse it, but certain jobs can cause stress to the point where things like this happen. may or may not be this, but possible.
Maxbaron10
Everybody goes to sleep eventually...ladies, think about that just in case..
FreshNews247
Remember that cop who sniffed that young girls underwear during a open house? That's fucked.
Theonewiththesandwich
They need to learn to not bring their work home with them.
fumpst781
For me it's turning their sirens on just to get through a light. It's that kind of "fuck you, I'm above this" that's insidious.
ReturnOfFreudberg
they see some shit and it's a terrifying job but it's no excuse.
willpostanything
So far..
bippityboppitybuttsex
https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says
bippityboppitybuttsex
"Of all the cases, police officers who were arrested, charged, and convicted of abuse, more than half kept their jobs."
foxatomic
Dads a retired RCMP sgt. put my mother and me through hell. I’ve always had trust issues with police & other authority.
fortherecipes
Police beat, firefighters cheat
SpeedBeetle
That type of career attracts specific types of people and reinforces certain attributes. I'm not surprised.
aTallIrishman
Gonna nead a source for that
HiddenSanity
Now, be fair, some of them beat their husbands.
RandomMemmer
https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says study done in the 90s. Prob stil has merit
Vaanhalen
Weird seeing a link of actual substance on imgur. Good job
Lordmongoose
study appears to be only 500 officers in AZ area in 1988. Small sample size, in limited scope, and old, Probably need to be redone.
Spartavius
Definitely, especially after mental health care was prioritized for police.
TheRicM
It’s not even that old, the 90s was 11 years ago
SharkyMcSnarkface
This is probably some advanced joke I can’t quite figure out.
TheRicM
Yeah it's a somewhat common thing
TheRicM
It's been around a while lol
Zomjb83
Bully in, bully out
Nlchacon
Oddly enough I've heard of this from friends who dates cops.
CGWN
It's an accepted truth that bad people are drawn to police work in America, but good officers are also radicalized by those around them.
1skin2skin3skin
Ah the thin blue union
whatwouldyoulikefordinner
Or burnt out. My hus. does his best to leave ppl with warnings, talk to youth, etc. with all this and mgt that doesn’t give a shit, he’s dun
YouMadeMeSignIn
"Worst day of your life so far."
Danniboy27
Source? Too much hate without sources for my liking at the moment. I don't doubt the % is high, but this seems fake to start shit
blueyedwineaux
My ex was a cop. Never hit me but emotionally abusive to the max. Stalked me for 2 years after I left.
thefrayedendsofsanity
Sorry you went through that.
languidlangosta
I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I hope you're in a much better place
AllAroundSad
Investigating*
ynotbu
Therefore all cops are assholes, just kidding but not!
MusicMan135
Missed the part where they insinuated that. Kidding, but not.
idontwannagomrstark
blueyedwineaux
Not all are. Just my ex.
Mustardisfood
All cops
Zeth0
No, not all cops. Those that are bad and those that cover for them are also bad. Its too many, but it is not all.
Mustardisfood
They all uphold oppression. The very nature of police is oppression. "I'm just following orders." Maybe it would be different if they fix 13
AdmiralAlbatross
Enough cops.
DoublevBomb
Just wait until you see their rates of substance abuse and suicide.
xxbiohazrdxx
whatever they are, its not high enough
undeadhobo
Man, even cops cant escape police brutality. Theyre even killing themselves.
EbenezerStooge
https://www.addictioncenter.com/news/2019/09/police-at-highest-risk-for-suicide-than-any-profession/
philosoraptopterodactyl
is this just American cops or everywhere?
EbenezerStooge
It's a US center, so probably just US police
kagapeme
I totally misread the title...
SkeltonMoppy
I'd bet you'd still call those big bad cops if you had a problem, beta
1skin2skin3skin
Oh that's right they help people sometimes which means they can do whatever they want the rest of the time
thepikachubandit24
Yeah, by this logic doctors should get a free kill for every life they save
1skin2skin3skin
Not to shabby.
zr7s007
fake
155DangerClose
If you believe that statistic you have shit for brains
jojoyojimbi
i found the cop guys
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
nah just a boot licker.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Not even a cop, probably a 2A pretend action hero
155DangerClose
Found the shit for brains
1skin2skin3skin
115 DANGER CLOSE MILITARY AMERICA FUCKIN A COPS GO GET THOSE LOOTIN' TOOTIN' SONS O BITCHES HOORAH
155DangerClose
yes? it's bad to think looters should be shot now?
1skin2skin3skin
Didn't say anything about shooting but sure shira law does dictate that thievery is punishable by death
jojoyojimbi
whatever you say bud, see ya at the protests
Sugarbritches21
I've got amazing cop friends that will go out of their way to give you the shirt off their backs. Not all cops are bad. Not all are good
1skin2skin3skin
You've solved it. Thanks man.
Janewaygottheminivanstarship
Not all cops lol really? That isnt the point right now. The point is that they can kill without repercussion and are more likely to be viole
Sugarbritches21
I get the point of the protesting I really do. Imgur sure is hostile right nkw. I'm gonna lay low for a few days. Y'all take care
Janewaygottheminivanstarship
Sorry for coming off aggressive. I had a traumatic day protesting that day. Please stay in the conversation.
Sugarbritches21
I'm sorry you had a traumatic day protesting. I'd hug you if I could but social distancing
Ocek
Didn't want to be the one to say it but correlation =/= causation. A lot of people assume bad people become cops, but it's also possible
PennysWorthOfTea
So, folks become cops because they're assholes and being a cop turns you into an asshole. Two routes to the same end. ACAB.
Ocek
One we have some control over, the other we don't, it's good to identify what we can do to improve it.
Ocek
that being a cop means you're exposed to situations that are more likely to mold you into a more aggressive person.
Scipio1770
These are not mutually exclusive things.
Ocek
Never said they were, but if you read the comments there's a definite insinuation in one direction.
WardSharlow
How is that any better?
Ocek
Because assuming someone is fundamentally a bad person means you're less likely to help them.
WardSharlow
My job isn't to help them. Their job is literally to help me.
WardSharlow
Also, fuck you if you can't go home and NOT beat your wife.
Ocek
Would you make this argument against doctors? Their job literally is to help you, yet they have the highest suicide rate of any profession.
Ocek
I think I understand what you are confused about. No one is saying to not put them in jail. I'm talking about prevention.
Ocek
I think I understand your confusion, no one is saying to help them after they commit the crime. I'm talking about prevention.
bippityboppitybuttsex
If they have a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction they cannot carry a firearm and cannot be a cop any more.
marvelousx
Neither is murdering innocent civilians, but have you looked outside lately?
NeynasGhost
Isn't a huge part of the protesting going on about this thing where cops don't get convicted of stuff?
boomroasted
Conviction... bwahahaha
justletmelogin
If...
Zyrixion
I'd note that the post says 'reported' and not 'convicted', which is an important distinction.
mothernature94
Yes, but even if they're arrested for domestic violence, the charges can be dropped. Even if they do go to court, the charges can be changed
mothernature94
Ex: arrested for domestic battery, but charges can be reduced to disorderly conduct.
DVSBSTrD
*should* not be a cop anymore.
iQuitlmgurAndNeverLookedBack
Loophole: Disgraced DV Sheriff Deputies keep their Pensions by simply transferring to a Jailer position. Mean as fuck too because...
iQuitlmgurAndNeverLookedBack
...they're mocked / ridiculed by their own, as well as the inmate population.
dasoffendor
is that a federal law or something else?
Fasrill
No, just a tribal mentality.
bippityboppitybuttsex
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1117-restrictions-possession-firearms-individuals-convicted
WardSharlow
Not at all.
pip1
Since it's abundantly clear that cops wont stop other cops from commiting major felonies, do you really think misdemeanours are relevant?
justvenomcake
Yes, because they probably got it before they could even join.
kazini
Evidently not, if the statistic is for cops specifically being charged. Therefore after they are already cops.
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
A study found cops are less likely to be convicted of a felony even as a civilian when compared to their non officer civilian counterparts
IronGravyBoat
Your username is relevant at least.
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
No1 beats me at donut eating!!! No one!!!
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
One reason they argue is because the convicted officers case is usually dealt with by their OWN precinct (you know where their friends work)
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/13/17938234/police-shootings-killings-prosecutions-court
Variadicism
The source for the data in this article is broken. https://www.unlawfulshield.com/2018/07/what-happened-to-policemisconduct-net/
InfocalypseRising
I worked at a restaurant where a group of cops would come in regularly, they were always the loudest and drunkest and refused to leave
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DarkMoon159
Good tips though?
GinOClock
Doubtful
Daymaster1
I ok once asked a guy to see his ID with a credit card, and he said to me "I'm a police chief". Good for you ID please.
Kris10MkKamble
Very cop I’ve drank with was doing coke and driving home drunk regularly the 90’s where so safe
DatPudding
Bartending for cops is one of the best and worst times you'll have as a bartender trust..
TarrkertheNewt
Somewhere along the line our cops became soldiers. x_x
FrogNamedKitty
I worked at a gas station overnight and they'd usually come in for coffee and to meet up and chat with each other. They were very nice and I
FrogNamedKitty
felt safer working by myself when they showed up.
Urgentinsurgent
Sure, along with groups of white women, young black men, Indian dudes, Arab families (just being loud though, no drinking). People are loud
mzturk144
You were a server too lol ?
shaggy715
Weird, in contrast, the restaurant i work at in Birmingham has some really nice cops and just 1 evil, creepy prick
bgeezus
That's the bad apple, don't worry they've got their eye on him.
shaggy715
You can tell so much about a person by how they treat people in the service sector.
TubOfButtah
It makes me wonder what the ratio of good to bad cops needs to be before the good cops themselves don't feel the power to speak up
headloser
simple, video record it. Now show it to the TV news station. Good luck on trying to get out of that cops.
FreshNews247
I call bullshit. You seem like a trouble maker.
drcookieninja
Not sure if it's different in the States, but here in Canada, I know a lot of really nice cops. They're always out in the community.
MithridateEupator
Cops have a duty to the public, when they are bad it sticks in people's minds.
FlyingDorito
Yup, there are, but I have also met some cops who shouldn't be cops.
TooDoggoneFunny
Here in Canada, I know several good police officers who have donated a lot of time to non profit groups for the benefit of our community.
drcookieninja
I think a difference may be that cops have more training here and higher bar to even enter academy. Pay is hella good, we talking 100k+ w/OT
LadyArwen
I’m a server in Toronto & cops here are exceptionally nice. Tho I’ve also felt irrationally attacked by police in random citizen encounters.
plainoldusername
Always had positive interactions with local pd. One officer even took me to the gas station when I ran out
vobra
Yea it’s different in the states unless by out in the community you mean out bullying the community
heartlessninja6
Quit yer bragging Canada!
drcookieninja
There are definitely bad ones causing problems in the community, but those good stories don't get shared in these threads.
StarkTangent
Oh shut the fuck up. We can talk about good cops when the bad one stop fucking killing innocent black people
drcookieninja
Yeah sorry mate. Didn't mean to dilute the issues in America. Just thought some positivity might be nice. Don't pay me any attention.
cheddarjacktees
He's talking about in Canada you walnut, I understand you're frustrated but take your finger off the trigger
StarkTangent
Yeah man I get that he’s talking about canada but if I’m honest, I’m not fucking worried about Canada atm. Pretty common knowledge that 1/2
pip1
"What you gonna do, call the cops? BWAHAHAHAHA!"
Odmanra
Put eye drop in the next round!
dudeloveall
That’s how the health department, building inspectors, and ABC all come out to do an audit on the same day
bambulina
Nope. Their mothers.
Howdoilife
My former neighbor was a cop and used this exact line when people complained to him about setting off pipe bombs in his backyard for fun.
HellaFishsticks
Thugs with badges.
Ffudmethen
The biggest gang in the nation and they typically are above the law
IllidanStormrageDidNothingWrong
Some with vadges
NewLifeNewNameNoOneWillFindMeHere
Less of those are thugs, at least in my experience.
NakedDannyDevito
seems like a silly statement to make if you give it a quick google.
NapoleonDynOmite
I used to be a cook and and a group of us used to go to a bar and we'd be the loudest and drunkest and refused to leave and fight>>>
NapoleonDynOmite
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pip1
Yea, former chef too. Obvs we're fucked but maybe hold ppl whose job it is to enforce the law to a higher standard?
Manyak3ars
Relax, he’s saying what he experienced. Why did you get so pressed and defensive?
GinOClock
Dated several cooks and you guys are completely psychotic, but you're only cooking food. Not carrying firearms and using them on civilians
RedLaserBeam
Yeah but everyone knows cooks like to party.
NapoleonDynOmite
Wanna go to a party Barbie?
NapoleonDynOmite
My name is Phil and I like to party
philosoraptopterodactyl
and do lots of cocaine.
NapoleonDynOmite
Heroin
commentsivehadafew
Unfortunately police work is appealing to that kind of person
FlamedLion
Maybe I he work helps fully make that type of person?
FlamedLion
*the
oblimo
I may be nostalgic, but I really think that became institutionalized with the "warrior" ethos of the last 2 generations of cops in the US /
oblimo
It sounds so naive, but "Think you're patrolling Mayberry, not freaking Fallujah," rings true to me.
Everythingisracist
Sublimation
aahoss
Bad people are drawn to power. Also, power tends to corrupt people. Makes the govt a cesspool
Scarfaceeightsix
So let's have socialism and give the government more power.
alticaarden
I remember someone saying to become a cop you must either really love or really hate humanity
yallmfsneedjesus
YES. Same thing with pedophiles. People think being a celibate priest turns them. NO. Its an easy place to hide. No one questions why you...
yallmfsneedjesus
..are not married, its a position of authority and routine access to children. Bad people are attracted to positions that allow them to hide
nobodywhatsoever
That kind of person is appealing to police forces
HectoProtecto
That number seems really high but I will say I know a cop that put hands on his now ex wife
CreaturesThatCrawl
Yup. Which is why we need to reform the requirements so these assholes have a better chance of not making it!
squashpirates
Lottery system to replace one congressman per state. Too crazy?
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
I know a guy who desperately wants to be a police officer but can't pass initial testing. Based on his personality, 100% he would be a shit
junk4u
Precisely, people tend to say “Power corrupts”, but it’s more like “Corrupted people are attracted to power”.
PlaidBastard
A little of that, a little of power giving you tools and a motivation to do things to keep power, *and* power being quite *able* to corrupt.
Nefel
“Power doesn't always corrupt, power always reveals. When you have enough power to do what you always wanted to do,
Nefel
then you see what the guy always wanted to do.” - Robert Caro, speaking of Lyndon B. Johnson
Bioslate
It's the same reason why the p3dos are found in schools, churches, camps, etc. If you "like" kids, you'll gravitate towards jobs with them.
Taxicat
Not just jobs involving children, but jobs that involve having AUTHORITY over them and the absolute trust of the parents.
Bioslate
Not all of them, but a startling amount.
Metalgearslade
Nothing like getting the facts from somebody in the field. Cheers.
aahoss
To me it's definitely both, but I guess there's not really a way to prove either
Taxicat
It becomes a self-perpetuating cycle: corrupt people are attracted to power and seek it out, once they get it they change the >
Taxicat
>rules to encourage more corruption, etc.
BobHubert
The point can also be drawn that the stress of the job leads to it as well yes? Is that wrong?
babybirdx3
Stress on the job corrupts people and causes domestic violence? Yeah, that's wrong. People have choices over how they behave.
BobHubert
They do but people who have such such stress on their life lead to more cases of domestic violence. That’s why you see more cases in lower
BobHubert
Income areas etc
babybirdx3
That's actually not true. Domesric violence is not isolated by social class, education leve, etc. DV is about personality and control.
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
When all you focus on is negative, it can get to you for sure. I think there should be a focus on law enforcement officer's mental health
BobHubert
The same for veterans
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
Highly agreed
jkeezie
Maybe? Does that make it okay? "Oh they're in dangerous situations a lot. They should let off their steams SOME how." right?
BobHubert
Not an excuse, just an explanation
PlaidBastard
'Why did he kill all those people?' 'The rod through his head.' 'God, that's sad.' 'Yeah, fucked up.' That's the read I got.
PlaidBastard
No abuser gets an excuse, but they all have a reason, and we might help people not become abusers if we understand them.
jkeezie
That's a good point.
PlaidBastard
We can slay monsters til the end of time, or we can destroy the habitat where they're made and stop having so fucking many of them.