There was a time that humanity nearly went extinct. Our early ancestors were facing oblivion due to a ice age. The population was reduced to about 1300 people total in the world. Harnessing fire saved them.
Epigenetic isn't the opposite of genetic, and I'm pretty sure they do actually mean epigenetic considering it's theorised that epigenetics plays an important part in the shaping of instinct.
Epigenetics is an explanation for heritable changes in gene expression, where there's no change in DNA. The classic example is: if you experience famine not only can you get diabetes, but you can also pass a risk of developing diabetes onto your kids, even if they don't experience famine. I have no idea how "looking at a fire is nice" could have anything to do with epigenetics.
The two aren't unrelated. There's no real genetic benefit to being fascinated by fire, at least nothing that would be coded into the genome. If there is any inherited trait like that, it'd almost certainly be some expression of existing traits that gets written when someone encounters fire for the first time, either fascination or fright.
That said, I doubt there's any real explanation for it beyond "fire warm, mmm comfy".
It's not "something simple" that's like a human being saying you don't enjoy water. Fire gives us cancer and is totally bad for us, no doubt, it's also one of the only reasons we are human at all.
Almost anything is when on shrooms. Lol. My SIL was high and his eyebrows were moving about, and my daughter said, "What's the problem?" he said, "I can't control my eyebrows."
I have a cast iron firebox in my living room and when we get it going, literally every creature in the house will sit in front of it for hours. We call it the primitive TV and it is one of my favorite things in the world.
I have a theory that the fire thing is only one of many: Moving water: stream, waterfall or surf. The sound of the wind through grasses or trees. Distant horizons: plains, oceans, distant shores, mountains on the horizon. Views from elevations (Related to those immediately preceding.) The smell of wood smoke. The smell of the sea. I’m probably missing a few. Please fill in the gaps.
Your theory is entirely correct, it’s a fact, we enter a plane of existence outside ourselves, we are, to all intents, hypnotised. I myself am sitting front of a fan with the breeze just right, and I won’t move for, oh ever. y
So I heard about a study of what people prefer the most in a piece of art. An overwhelming majority like a green open meadow. Next was the same meadow with a tree or stream.
I read some scifi a while back that pointed out that humans, developed from apes, tend to prefer a house near or among trees that is slightly elevated.
Live above a river next to the forest of trees that line it, in the middle of a city (Bristol). It feels exactly like home (South Wales Valleys). Very grateful for it.
Absolutely. That was a clear miss on my part. Also, now that it’s morning and I’m thinking better, sunrises, sunsets, full moons, and moonrises, rainbows, distant storms, near storms, there’s a slew of atmospheric phenomena that are like that.
I think the post as about the possibility of epigenetic satisfaction. The fact that it could get me in trouble is a secondary consideration, but yes, you're correct.
We have new squirrels in the tree outside of our kitchen window. Watching them chase each other around the tree is almost enough to forgive them for constantly hoarding all the bird food.
(I feed the squirrels too! They just try to eat what I give the birds first, then move on to what I put out for them)
Someone’s going to call you creepy but I get this! There’s a little green space for my neighborhood outside my office window and sometimes there are kiddos with their parents having a ball and it’s so wholesome. But more often people like to play fetch with their dogs out there and I zone out sometimes just watching them run back and forth.
Illithidbane
Humanity is still largely fire based. Most global electricity is still from burning things, though we're finally starting to move on.
damascusxie
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harthram
TofuGolem
That's not what epigenetics is. That's not how epigenetics works.
bertchstudio
It's the best meditation. That we don't do this daily is why your TV has a vice grip on your eyes
All the best music venues in Detroit have a burn barrel
MylundTheMad
wannasee
Well, the world is on fire...literally...
mjcherbert
just remember to blink now and again ...
bluto1415
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jonnnney
There was a time that humanity nearly went extinct. Our early ancestors were facing oblivion due to a ice age. The population was reduced to about 1300 people total in the world. Harnessing fire saved them.
LordJebusVII
That's just the Lord of Light speaking to you showing you visions of America's future
SoLongFriedRiceHelloFriedChicken
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logicaledc
That's what I did after finally making my first bow-drill fire.
HandoB4Javert
orangegummy
Wonder how it compares to the
Those electric fireplaces with that led lighting - or do you need the heat for the real effect?
LitchLitch
Epigenetic is not the correct word, what they actually mean is the opposite, genetic.
nigglemaster
With the memory shit.
FaerieWalnut
Epigenetic isn't the opposite of genetic, and I'm pretty sure they do actually mean epigenetic considering it's theorised that epigenetics plays an important part in the shaping of instinct.
Telemapus
Epigenetics is an explanation for heritable changes in gene expression, where there's no change in DNA. The classic example is: if you experience famine not only can you get diabetes, but you can also pass a risk of developing diabetes onto your kids, even if they don't experience famine. I have no idea how "looking at a fire is nice" could have anything to do with epigenetics.
NaughtButOne
The two aren't unrelated. There's no real genetic benefit to being fascinated by fire, at least nothing that would be coded into the genome. If there is any inherited trait like that, it'd almost certainly be some expression of existing traits that gets written when someone encounters fire for the first time, either fascination or fright.
That said, I doubt there's any real explanation for it beyond "fire warm, mmm comfy".
bertchstudio
We actually need the light flickering in our faces
We grew up with it daily as a species.
quietwalker
Never got that. Assumed it was the realm of those with socially problematic mental disorders
LitchLitch
Folks like you didnt survive long 20 kya
TheCryptid
holy shit you came swinging with a really weird assumption and honestly about the fire thing... you're probably the odd one for not experiencing this
BoblovesMac31415101
Have you tried it though?
relsky
That's a hell of an assumption to make just because you don't enjoy something simple.
bertchstudio
It's not "something simple" that's like a human being saying you don't enjoy water. Fire gives us cancer and is totally bad for us, no doubt, it's also one of the only reasons we are human at all.
misterCT
“Camp TV”
S13gtastic
Always called it caveman tv
HippoTel
We always called it "cowboy TV," but same idea.
JurgenWindcallerz
We call it Bush TV
fformulaa
Is staring at fire bad for your eyes? Cuz i have done that a lot and will be doing it in the future. Just not sure if i need glasses or something
bertchstudio
Your phone is the bigger problem. Text on a screen or page basically perforates our retina.
Crt monitors gave me eye surgery already.
Evenmoreuselessname
No. It produces approximately zero ultraviolet light. You're fine.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Especially on shrooms.
Kingstonboy
Almost anything is when on shrooms. Lol. My SIL was high and his eyebrows were moving about, and my daughter said, "What's the problem?" he said, "I can't control my eyebrows."
TCooley79
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BranDohCalrissian
RED TEAM GO
dissonantcognition
Caveman tv
SVMerlin
The spirit of your ancestors would like to know if you remembered to pick up the marshmallows.
mikeatike
Or any of @StraightOuttaOptions posts
ThisUsernameIsKnownToTheStateofCaliforniaToCauseCancer
This says it well.
https://youtu.be/YH3c1QZzRK4?si=up0HJv3UrD2GViOy
Goodmerlinpeen
Once saw the face of my recently deceased grandfather, I heard faint words "Clear my browser history, boy!"
CoqRoq
I have a cast iron firebox in my living room and when we get it going, literally every creature in the house will sit in front of it for hours. We call it the primitive TV and it is one of my favorite things in the world.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
It is soothing and fun to imagine your priblems and certain people burning to death
errantcompass
burnin' all thos priblems away
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
so many priblems
LespritDeLescalier22
I gots 99 priblems, and an o ain’t one
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
ahahahahah awesome
Quizz25S
3 things people never get tired of watching:
An open flame
Running water
Other people working
drduffer
I have a theory that the fire thing is only one of many:
Moving water: stream, waterfall or surf.
The sound of the wind through grasses or trees.
Distant horizons: plains, oceans, distant shores, mountains on the horizon.
Views from elevations (Related to those immediately preceding.)
The smell of wood smoke.
The smell of the sea.
I’m probably missing a few.
Please fill in the gaps.
MilliProblemMaker
Dark clouds rolling in and the smell on the breeze right before a thunderstorm
richmondrosemead0
Your theory is entirely correct, it’s a fact, we enter a plane of existence outside ourselves, we are, to all intents, hypnotised. I myself am sitting front of a fan with the breeze just right, and I won’t move for, oh ever. y
delightphil
The fan also creates something called grey noise. Interesting effect it can have.
ThisUsernameIsKnownToTheStateofCaliforniaToCauseCancer
This says it well.
https://youtu.be/YH3c1QZzRK4?si=up0HJv3UrD2GViOy
TheMershedPerderder
A majority of peoples' favorite color is blue (assuming blue skies and clear ocean), then green (plant growth)
LastEverUsername
Stars!!!!!
BranDohCalrissian
Listen pal, everyone's out here trying to get their gaps filled.
Boatsntoes
Filling in gaps is certainly one
Isthe4thtimethecharm
So I heard about a study of what people prefer the most in a piece of art. An overwhelming majority like a green open meadow. Next was the same meadow with a tree or stream.
delightphil
How did clouds not rank higher?
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Maybe they were just included in the meadow. Some happy little clouds.
CaptainSkyhawk
I read some scifi a while back that pointed out that humans, developed from apes, tend to prefer a house near or among trees that is slightly elevated.
WhoReadsPeoplesUsernamesAnyway
I too would prefer that
ChesterSnapdragonMcFistycuffs
Live above a river next to the forest of trees that line it, in the middle of a city (Bristol). It feels exactly like home (South Wales Valleys). Very grateful for it.
Probablyimaginary
Views from ground level. Looking up at trees, peering into tall grasses or bushes. Finding fractals in nature.
eggman989
The night sky, especially when there isn't a lot of light pollution about.
drduffer
Absolutely. That was a clear miss on my part. Also, now that it’s morning and I’m thinking better, sunrises, sunsets, full moons, and moonrises, rainbows, distant storms, near storms, there’s a slew of atmospheric phenomena that are like that.
ThrowingSchadenfreude
Sunrises & sunsets
SVMerlin
Vocanic eruptions.
drduffer
Yes, but . . . Isn’t that just the fire thing? ⬆️
SVMerlin
Molten lava. Melted rock. It might light a fire, but is it fire itself? No, it is the seed of fire.
drduffer
You misunderstood. Of course they’re not the same, but the fascination of watching them, which is what the post is about, is very much the same.
SVMerlin
Ah, yes! You are correct!
delightphil
Running your body to failure point during some form of exercise and then sitting quietly with your eyes closed immediately afterwards.
NewUsernameWhoDis
The smell of really rich soil.
drduffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrichor
delightphil
Definitely!
madeejit
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
theskepticinme
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ReturnWinchester
The silence after a heavy snowfall.
theskepticinme
That’s a good one
eggman989
The woods are lovely, dark and deep...
drduffer
Ooo! Good one!
Columbus43219
Watching kids play
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Columbus43219
I think the post as about the possibility of epigenetic satisfaction. The fact that it could get me in trouble is a secondary consideration, but yes, you're correct.
Probablyimaginary
Baby animals playing too. I was recently gifted the opportunity to watch some wild baby rabbits frolic and play, very satisfying.
thejon
We have new squirrels in the tree outside of our kitchen window. Watching them chase each other around the tree is almost enough to forgive them for constantly hoarding all the bird food.
(I feed the squirrels too! They just try to eat what I give the birds first, then move on to what I put out for them)
thesiser
Someone’s going to call you creepy but I get this! There’s a little green space for my neighborhood outside my office window and sometimes there are kiddos with their parents having a ball and it’s so wholesome. But more often people like to play fetch with their dogs out there and I zone out sometimes just watching them run back and forth.
ArchaeoEejit
Heavy rain.
Enduli
Press X to JASON?
shyriath
I can watch heavy rain, but only until it lulls me to sleep.
somethingsomethingwittyhere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki">/Geosmin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosmin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrichor
iraslak
SHAUN!
ArchaeoEejit
Nope
ultradongle
A nap during a heavy rain is just *chef's kiss*