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Hotkolbas
As history indicates that health and science feed off of war. There have been many advancements in these areas through war.
kellyingfrenzy
War, terrible war.
gatosyperros
Send this to the front page
300Hectares1TankofKerosene
So basically, humans are shit.
PhilMcrevice
Hard pill to swallow, if we dont win the wars and fight off the evils of this world, there is no healthcare, arts and sciences...
ImJustHereToMakePeopleCry
Literally today. Just just the era but the date...
BoredCreep
Well, 80 years ago was 1940, so it kind of explains why war spending was on the uptick.
HappyBanjoGuy
1953 was 67 years ago. Published in Russian pub Krokodil, artist: Yuliy Abramovich Ganf; https://www.lambiek.net/artists/g/ganf_yuliy.htm
BoredCreep
That's great, tell the guy who posted it saying it was 80 years ago.
Manbehindthemadness
#memeofthecentury
justanotherdude6710
War fuels patriotism. War makes money for those pushing for it. Defense is the only thing people choose to think about it because of fear.
IwishIwasaDragonorsomethingequallyascoolwhichisnothing
Fuels Nationalism*
735824
Lock him u[!
TeeWrecksQt
Can't tell if you're a history buff or a fallout fan...or both I guess. Either way bravo.
madspinner
War funding funds other things. Ever hear of DARPA? You wouldn't be on imgur without it.
PineApp1e
Well...now there's women at the war table also...
SaItyEuropean
yep cause you idiots never vote for the sane ones
IAmAWizard
what is it good for
ochermes28
“Eve of Destruction” by Barry McGuire (1965) https://youtu.be/MdWGp3HQVjU
SendLewdss
How many times will this be on the front page...
3lr4y
Wow really makes me think guys we live in a society
theoriginalkittySPARKLES
Need to add Sports with A similar mount of money as war.
Pandi66
blame sparta
ArmedandOverclocked
Right down to the german helmet and the fact it was drawn to criticize germany in the lead up to WW2
nonCanadianGoose
Except the part where we spend more money on healthcare than the military. The VA come out of the military budget
GrandProtectorDark
Snd it's somehow still worse than that of otver countries
nonCanadianGoose
Blame pharma and insurance companies who’ve used lobbyists to make the healthcare system more exploitable
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
Wasn't this originally a Russian comic?
Noobgamerdude98
Isn't this a Soviet propoganda poster?
Orion1453
remko
LordDongKnocker
Could you please explain my dumbass brain why that is amusing?
krawby
people on team A: "team B is responsible for all problems!". people on team B: "team A is responsible for all problems!"
IUpvoteForFood
Almost like team A and team B want to divide their people to prevent them from finding solutions to common every day problems
IUpvoteForFood
Or fighting team A and B to fix problems, rather
Vysard
Almost like every political group that exists in any country.
rusrsdude
Every extremist* political groupie
peppermintgal
Centrists engage in political violence as much as anyone else, don't kid yourself. Politics is violence.
Vysard
Every political campaign is designed to promise to do what the opposition won't, or how bad the opposition is. They're all the same.
bigmeaniepants
Similarly, it's striking how well Murphy Brown holds up today. Watch some reruns if you ever get a chance. Apparently, nothing ever changes.
AFSamizdat
What's spending like when you lose a war?
ColonelColon
Depends, what's it like when you incessantly start them?
DukePhelan
6.4 trillion and counting.
Exeteri
War...War never changes.
blaknwhitejungl
And the only war is the class war.
StartedAtTheBottomNeverLeft
BeerBatteredandBold
LetMeSeeMyKids
Everyone dies one day. Even wolves. But not books. Words never die
ThrownClub
War changes dramatically when it is brought to politician’s doors. Drag them from their homes and make the consequences tangible.
ReferenceGameOnPoint
until you make it online and terrible
kerms
I hate this faux-intellectual statement. War absolutely changes. It has changed dramatically throughout history and continues to do so.
EmberRingtail
Thank you!!
Thefear1984
What is it good for?
AzgarOgly
It is not about war. It is about cause of war. Most of them are fought for profit.
TheComputerScientist
Or does it? The war has changed. Did it? The answer is, "No." Unless it is, "Yes." No, of course it is.
Hungrypiemonger
this demo was great at exposing shitty cod/bf
Idsertian
MASTER SERGEANT SHOOTER PERSON EXTREME!
thefucksnotgiven
WAR HAS CHANGED.
donjohngamer
Method of war has changed, war itself hasn't. Countries killing each other for stupid reasons has been the same for millennia
SharkyMcSnarkface
Or does it?
CatgirlsandKneesockstheConfused
Not like any of the soldiers really get that monry anyways. All defense corporations.
taytothief
You don’t say?
iamdanman
If they saw 1% of what they get in one deal every American soldier would be a millionaire
DoDucHuy
600 billion a year divided by a million troop. They would be a millionaire in two years time.
firesnake
If you want to go to war naked and swim to the battlefield yourself... oh, also, no weapons, support, or vehicles, be my guest. (1)
firesnake
The fact is items warfighters use MUST work, and that isn't cheap. Also, you may forget the billion dollar bombers and submarines... (2)
Jsalchemist
You forget that that equipment is made by the lowest bidder...
PYCKIBOT
"Defense"
PassiveAgressiveMan
Well, there are Generals and Admirals out there who have connections to defense contractors and use their position for monetary gain.
definitelynotawolf
Military leaders have profited off of war since it’s very beginning
firesnake
Can you provide a source for that? Seems like it would generally be illegal. I know some retire from military service into cushy defense (1)
firesnake
jobs, but that could legitimately be explained by connections and experience.
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
Last I checked his shirt didn’t say “soldiers”
DarkwingDuc
Right, but he's dressed like a soldier. An exec in a business suit would be more accurate.
ButtTrumpett
This isn’t how art works man, they don’t ask imgurian users, from the future, what they personal want vs the implicit nature they preferred.
Wemly
Oh Bart, cartoons don't have to be 100% realistic.
CatgirlsandKneesockstheConfused
Can't have a war without soldiers.
MarxSoul
Pretty soon they might be able to tbh
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
Can’t have soldiers if you don’t pay em
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
Oh sweet summer child, you can most definitely have soldiers if you don't pay them. Many of armies throughout time have done it.
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
Yeah you can if they’re actually slaves or volunteers.
CatgirlsandKneesockstheConfused
They don't much pay them well anyways.
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
Which is why they didn’t just put “soldiers” on it. Congratulations, you made it.
firesnake
I work in defense. We are contractually obligated, to make things work in the worst conditions against thousands of requirements (1)
firesnake
The lack of a public understanding of what that costs does not change what it costs. Having spent 3000+ hours reviewing and understanding (2
firesnake
the thousands of requirements costs labor. It costs materials to perform testing. It costs on risky projects that are groundbreaking (3)
firesnake
The warfighter is not the only cost, but that does not mean money is wasted. The US has a technological edge in many arenas as a result.
nonCanadianGoose
Military keeps science well funded, DARPA. We rarely see it
Devistryael
THANK YOU!
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Devistryael
"Private sector" can propose anything for the same funding. It isn't a blank check. FPDS.gov discloses the funding and the (1)
Devistryael
(2) the Federal acquisition regulation sets limits on profit and fee
fuckcats
there are more advances from NASA than the military when it comes to science.
Devistryael
Source?
nonCanadianGoose
As if NASA wasn’t a cover to use German rocket scientist to advance ICBM. None of the satellites have military functions
rando84
people from NASA would freely tell you that’s wrong. Even the military’s space program is nearly as robust as NASA’s:
rando84
https://www.ozy.com/acumen/is-the-us-military-spending-more-on-space-than-nasa/92148/
maxitaur
It funds science *with military applications*, not science in general
TimeLostHereIsGoneForever
We humans are oddly good at turning things into weapons. And yet, even with our capacity to destroy, we build bigger and better things
nonCanadianGoose
Military applications covers a large area. GPS, clothing and fabrics, duck tape, field medical treatment, batteries, zippers, coolers....
kuriosly
It also funds a decent bit of general studies.
Orion1453
That has and does mean useful things for the average consumer sometimes. GPS, and the early internet being notable military funded things.
Grusnoid
You can also add microwave ovens to that list
ArmedandOverclocked
Also DARPA has been funding self driving vehicle research for decades.