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Jun 12, 2022 2:37 AM
AlexSkullUterna
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TheLegendaryBonk
Why hasn’t it been nunya this entire time. Some of these fucking loons only view the world with where they put their genitalia.
ReturnWinchester
Why does it even matter? Actor or any job, it should be irrelevant who they are intimate with.
ForgeoftheWordsmith
Also also also, from a guy who's been doing theatre for over a decade, it's called ACTING for a reason. I get the desire for diverse casting
ForgeoftheWordsmith
and I think that's great, but no, straight characters don't need to be portrayed by straight actors any more than gay characters need to be
ForgeoftheWordsmith
portrayed by gay actors, or cis by cis, trans by trans, etc. Cast the best actor. Most of the time there will be someone from the portrayed
ForgeoftheWordsmith
community who is the best or equally the best as someone not from the community, but if not, don't hinder a role by compelling casting.
dudehiemer
If their plumbing isn't coming into contact with yours, it isn't really any of your fucking business what kinds of plumbing they like.
zvae
cavetown (robbie) is a musician who was forced to come out as transgender to stop an angry mob of tumblrites. sad shit, man.
Clymenus000
Whether he's gay or not, this guy has the right response.
PunnyPunenstein
"Your famous, you don't deserve privacy anymore" - this idiot
LordNoKids
Acting used to be acting of something you weren’t
BallsLikeWatermelonsPeckerLikeAThimble
What a bunch of god damned nonsense. It’s none of your business.
oifaen
Isn't that hollywood 2020+ tho?
Corrodias
Isn't what?
Jsupes
JustTryingToLiveLife
The whole point of acting is to be someone you are not, typecasting people for everything down to religion, sexuality, etc, its going to be
JustTryingToLiveLife
The death of acting, because at that point, your not acting, your just being yourself
Targe0
No one has a right to know your [As they put it] Alphabet. Don't try to out people to get points for your agenda. And if they are LBGT+ ->
Targe0
themselves its even worse as they should know better then to do that to someone who might not be out yet.
FrozenMojo
I hope one day we don't have to have this its just I'm human, I like what I like. No one cares, just humans being humans.
PooPculture
Actors should be allowed to act. Anthony Hopkins was a great Hannibal Lecter. Guess what? He isn't a real life cannibal.
NotTheFedsForSure
Do these idiots think tom Holland is actually a super hero? That will Smith is an actual cop? Or should only cop actors play cops in movies?
stavesacre
Isn’t the point of acting to pretend to be something you’re not?
TheOneTrueZippy8
Personally, I do not have an alphabet. I have runes, hieroglyphs and an obscene configuration that will drive you to madness.
darkestkale
Ah yes, the two genders: Alphabet, and indescribable horror glyphs :D
TheOneTrueZippy8
My pronouns are not encompassed by human speech.
darkestkale
Valid as fuck. You do you. Gender and language are bullshit anyway :D
PerfectManhattanUp
If you think actors should only play roles that line up with who they are in life, then you don't quite understand what an actor is.
chefsoda
Ashley’s almost right, but they would never care about the harm they caused.
CAustinC0x
I love straining to read the small image, only to find fullsize imaged BELOW it. :)
MrCupcakeisallmine
Rebel Wilson was just forced to come out earlier. https://www.thewrap.com/rebel-wilson-threatened-outed-australian-newspaper/amp/
Whackamoley
Didn't she also make a lot of people mad by losing weight and talking about being healthy?
DeepBlueNothing
I really like that response, it's really nobody's business.
FourLegsGood
I remember when the US military did something similar. Let us praise conservative policy. Good job.
CongratsYouAreHereNow
Also… if he’s an actor, hired to act, why does it matter that he’s not one of those letters?
MeAnd2Bs
https://external-preview.redd.it/0Asptnr1PzC2XEtzmHl3l2sEBZyJ0pcrZN46IvU4ri4.jpg?auto=webp&s=b60188dd257f1c967899d5cf09e9231641a0846f
lddiaz
Entirely true. However, the public generally decides what is their business and what is not. It's awful, but it is the way of things.
Gosuamakenatek
Yeah, besides, gay actors have been playing straight characters since the invention of acting, it's not like they have trouble getting work.
mercyPandaRunner
I would even go so far and saying straight actors playing LGBTQIA+ (is it just me, or does it keep getting longer like its meant to be a>
mercyPandaRunner
running gag?) is a sign of normalization. 40 years ago, not many big stars would voluntarily pla a gay character thats not a joke.
iExplainTheJoke
It makes me upset when they have human actors play aliens when they could represent aliens by casting them
FlippedOut
NPH
HieronymousFlex
ThePastmaster
So many guys have castrated themselves carrying a pistol like that.
Vixess
Illigal response to a question anyways. That's assault with a deadly weapon just for brandishing the firearm to begin with.
HieronymousFlex
Appendix carry (In the front) is perfectly safe as long as you use a good holster that covers the trigger. Which they aren't, but still.
ThePastmaster
TBF, the grand majority of auto-castrators did not use a holster.
trencapins
I'm too european to feel confortable with any gun inside my pants. Sorry
iExplainTheJoke
(Penis joke)
Comet260
Seriously though, LGBT folks, do whatever it takes to protect yourself against violent bigoted dipshits.
mebe21
Cishet folks need to do the same to normalize it. Use words like "partner", "significant other", etc. Break people of habit of asking
DaPastry
So guns good?
RealFuckinNeeto
If your a targeted minority with a higher chance of being hit with random violence id say yeah
Comet260
Yes. In this case, yes.
Recidivous
As self defense in a mad world? Yes. But you don't need a dozen and you don't need military-issued arsenals.
homoerection
I have a .357 revolver but I want to get something a little smaller.
Comet260
If the Qtards and the bigots are going to have semi-auto weapons, lefties and non-bigots should have the same.
OhIfIMust
I've seen people freak out about someone "assuming their gender," then go up to someone and tell them to check their privilege for being >
FrenchTheLlama2
I've been told to my face that I'm a "privileged cis hetero male so I wouldn't understand" while out with my boyfriend at the time.
FrenchTheLlama2
Just assumed I was straight because of how I look or present I guess? Like I was literally next to my boyfriend. Some people are nuts.
OhIfIMust
"How dare you make assumptions about my identity and behaviors based on your interpretation of my appearance? Now let me do it to you!"
FrenchTheLlama2
Pretty much.
OhIfIMust
a white male. I'm all for social progress, but FFS, every side has their rabid unthinking zealots who make everyone else look bad...
morphis
cultisim
jstraw731
Everyone thinks they’re right. It’s hard to look beyond your own experiences sometimes. But for real fuck that kind of behavior
azureraptor
Some people have got nothing else to live for but butthurt...
Thoughtfullyshynoob
Pretty much 2 side of the same coin:
AndroidSoul
This. There are aggressive morons in every population and ignoring them just because they agree with you is a dangerous game
Clymenus000
We must all call out morons no matter what side they're on!!
ThomasThundersword
i know several folks who don’t just ignore them, but say “yeah maybe they go a bit far but in the end they are allies too and we should>
ThomasThundersword
respect them for helping the cause” fuck right off with that bullshit, they actively harm the cause.
Crowlands
This is my primary issue. I don't want people out there acting like some right wing strawman.
BigFatFailureTurtle
There's nothing more dangerous to any cause than morons supporting it badly, giving the opposition easy criticisms.
Beezlebubble
I got called a "motherfucking racist" tonight for doing my job as a bouncer/doorman - man this guy was an idiot and just wanted to start
Smoretank
Had a lady claim the same when I told her that her sweet potato was not on sale, baked potatoes were. I was a bagger. Some folks pull that.
Beezlebubble
Problems. Same kind of idea
TheS4ndm4n
I see that all the time. Underage kids try to get into a club. "forgot" their ID. And call the doorman racist when they don't get in.
Beezlebubble
I was letting in reservations for tables, they were in line for the upstairs area and had to wait. He threw a fit and got mad, told him he
MatthewBecker
When your so progressive you come full cricle and become a bigot again
SergeantMajorSpoiler
*you're
DicksmackMcgee
PossiblePotato
Stop obsessing over random internet comments
WalksTheSky
I think people forget that despite the social progress that has been made, there’s still a social cost to coming out
stavesacre
Even if there wasn’t it’s a stupid hill to die on.
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
Even if there wasnt, it’s private. Everyone can fuck right off
WolfRexV3
And fuck whoever they want that consents
badatediting
I love who I want, fuck who I want and fuck when I want. I only wanna fuck people who consent to it when they consent to it tho.
cocainemonster
The thing is that it’s none of anyone’s business
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
People forget its not their fucking decision what someone else wants people to know about them
BenderBenderBender
Not only a social cost, but sometimes a personal cost too.
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
Also, even if everyone around you is accepting... Both your preferences and how you define different terms can change over time. I sure >
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
know I identified in my early 20s differently than I do now... And if you've told people and accepted the premise they should know it, then>
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
you need to be every two years "No, actually I think it's more of this..." "No, actually, it's more like this..." "No, actually, these days>
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
I don't believe in labels anymore..." And that's just awkward and it's completely justifiable if that's the only reason you want to keep >
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
your cards close to your chest. For some people, their identity/preferences are quite stable, for others, they shift a lot over time.
JeremyPeevin
I mean THIS but at the same time I don't owe you SHIT random internet asshole. Or anyone else for that matter. Not a damn bit of my business
LTJJD
Came out last year, can confirm. Irreparably damaged multiple friendships and family relationships for me wanting to be myself.
zellar2020
Same here, I'm still dealing with backlash. Thankfully my family accepts me.
rubypilgrim
dammit. That hurts, even if they just outed themselves as folks who won't love you are you are. I'm sorry, LTJJD. Sending you a gramma hug.
LTJJD
Thank you. So kind I really appreciate you.
rubypilgrim
I'd be so proud of you if you were my grandkid. Heck, you aren't and I'm still proud of you. You chose truth and love. Right choice.
LTJJD
I’m going to happy cry, thank you. I haven’t told my parents as when I was ready to then they started talking about “lgbtqia+ and pronouns”
TheYoungerChrisEvans
90% of the ones in power, making the decisions, are bigots. They only accept those who are different because of pressure or profit
TheYoungerChrisEvans
So coming out in any way can affect your career in a million unseen ways. You don't owe that to anyone.
adamrac
Also, actors play people they are not, like all the time. That is literally their job.
lolspeak
I don't believe you.
ThePastmaster
I heard a joke once against Method Acting: If I wanted a butcher I would have hired one. I hired an actor to play a butcher, not become one.
JazzyGaming2222
Great example is Neil Patrick Harris on HIMYM. He played a straight man who sleeps around w/ tons of women & you'd never know hes gay.
JohnEdwa
Someone should tell him that as a gay man, he is only allowed to act gay characters, Twitter insists.
SvartTe
I'm not doing it, that fucker has a freeze ray.
DoYouLikePinaColada
Challenge accepted ;P
DoYouLikePinaColada
Wait... you are saying those orcs in LOTR aren't real orcs?!
HasteTheFool
They're mostly New Zealand army grunts, so in a way, they ARE uruks and hob-goblins.
yerrific
Enough is enough. Hire the real Batman.
Chloesaurus
I can't believe they cast a human for Worf. What an insult to Klingons...
badatediting
Just wait until you hear about the actor portraying Chewbacca
Chloesaurus
TheAnimalLady
Yes, but: casting actors who *are* of a certain identity to play characters of that identity is also important. Playing a career isn't (1)
TheAnimalLady
(2) the same as representing an identity. Why cast a cis actor to play a trans person, when you could cast a trans actor? It's about
adamrac
Does that mean a trans actor can only play trans parts? If not why the double standard?
TheAnimalLady
I *just* explained why not. It's about representation, "especially for marginalised communities".
TheAnimalLady
(3) representation and equity, especially when it comes to marginalised communities.
LaronX
This so much this. It's acting not reality tv
CosplayComet
My letters are M.I.N.D. Y.O.U.R. F.U.C.K.I.N.G. B.U.S.I.N.E.S.S.
FourLegsGood
Yeah! Don't ask, don't tell. The Liberal Road to conservatism continues. Lol. Dumb fucks.
SecondSince
Those are some good letters!
RhymingEverything
Also who tf cares. Gayest shit ever to care what another man does with his cock.
SpicyPeanuts27
They just can't. No one seems to be able to anymore
JavaCofe
ZippidyDooDa
To be fair, the lgbtq+ has lacked representation, and representation matters. I Think thats their worry
ontarioOT
Oh, I get a letter from a related organization, Noneof Yabusiness.
LoyalToTheEnd
Ah, the good ‘ol nunya.
Targe0
See I go to their main competitor "F.U.C.K O.F.F C.U.N.T" it's an Australian brand.
WorkSnakes
Oooo that would have been a good reply. Even better than "The JERK store called. They are running out of YOU!"
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Mine are F.U.C.K. B.I.T.C.H.E.S. G.E.T. M.O.N.E.Y.
Imustupvotealltacos
No shit! I am what I am. And fuck off everyone that cares a lot more about that label than I do!!
Targe0
Only one that has any right to know it is the one you're dating. Anyone else is is intruding.
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
J.E.L.L.O....it's alive.
oprahslovechild
That’s what we fight for. Let me be me and you be you.
thedeg
Mine are n o u
gabicraina
In that order!
JustAnotherCynicToo
YES!
xXxSTEVOxXx
Fucking preach. The sooner we all learn to leave well enough alone, the better.
MarsIsAfire
"Leave well enough alone" is the wrong message for this.
FourLegsGood
Don't ask, don't tell.
CosplayComet
FOR. REAL. I feel like MANY aspects of life would be 10x better if people just fucking kept their noses out of other people's shit.
xXxSTEVOxXx
The desire to control and dominate others to suit one's own preferences is a pernicious social ill across all elements of society imo.
CosplayComet
It's a sickness. It's a genuine mental sickness - I know what's best for you, so I'm going to MAKE you obey me. It's disgusting.
zellar2020
Too many people just can't shut the fuck up. Agreed.
DickTipPapercut
If you ain't sleeping with me, you don't need to fucking know.
nighoki
But I don’t want the gay chatacters be played by straight actors /s
badatediting
I also don't want super hero characters be played by anyone without the super power represented by the character in the show/movie.
badatediting
(c'mon. It's called acting. Whoever can portray whatever/whoever as long as they do so persuasively)
Assbandit
Gay characters being played at all is a huge win I dunno why we're being picky about representation. Of course things wil change with time.
badatediting
Exactly. I'm not really sure, but I believe nurses in hospital sit coms aren't played by real nurses either.
SaltyEsq
And I don't want aliens played by humans!
beldive
What about miss universe
Targe0
I demand that they stop casting Humans in Robot roles. A.I actors deserve those roles more. /s
Cargobiker530
I don't care who actors bang on their off time.* Are they good on screen; I'm cool.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Can they play the character well. If an adaptation do they look like the character? If yes for both I'm great
Cargobiker530
*consenting adults that is.
mrthewhitee
Saved it.
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
MrsUnderstoop
Why are people so invested in knowing the sexuality of others?
zxwaffen
Purity checks, power, clout.
AndroidSoul
Because you can tell when a white person is playing a black character, but it's a lot harder to tell if an lgbtq person is playing an lgbtq
AndroidSoul
Character. People want representation in their media and a lot of them want the actual actor to be representative. If the actor hasn't
AndroidSoul
Explicitly come out, people can't be sure its ok that the actor is representing them. Because behavior is subjective
OrangeFlavours
... But that's absurd. It's literally impossible to tell if they're LGBTQ, which is why demanding they are genuinely LGBTQ is crazy.
AndroidSoul
But it's what they do. Some people have to know the actor playing lgbt is lgbt for it to count. That's why they demand a statement. Doesn't
AndroidSoul
Matter if the actor does a good job, they need them to check the box to assist their buy in
OrangeFlavours
Does it make it more authentic when an actor has experience? Sure. But it's ACTING for a reason. None of the relationships are real.
MrsUnderstoop
Acting is playing pretend, black face and other stereotypes are not okay, but it’s acting. It’s a deep empathetic process.
AndroidSoul
I meant if the character was supposed to be black but they cast a white guy. People want representation and to know the char was done right
MrsUnderstoop
I get that
CarlottaVonSprockett
I know that proper representation for minorities is good, and that diversity in Hollywood needs to increase. But also, isn’t the point of /1
CarlottaVonSprockett
acting somewhat that a person pretends to be something they’re not? It seems weird to me to demand that an actor is being cast “too much” /2
japh
CarlottaVonSprockett
in a specific sexual orientation. Idk. 3/3
morelikeconsham
I think people are over extending the same problem regarding race and acting, where hollywood would cast white actors to play minority roles
morelikeconsham
rather than hire minority actors, and some people feel that, rather than hiring gay actors, they are casting straight actors to play gay
morelikeconsham
roles. The difference is that there's really nothing stopping gay actors from playing straight roles, unlike with the race issue.
rlopez2431415
Same can be said about disabilities too
CarlottaVonSprockett
True.
mrB3ND3R
So what are the rules now? You have to be gay to play gay? Straight to play straight? A real super powered superhero to play a superhero?
GandalfTheGhey
anybody who demands only LGBTQ+ actors should be allowed to play LGBTQ+ needs to go get fucked. to death.
RideTheStimutacs
What's really weird is when people demand a trans person play a character who's transitioning. You want them to go BACK to the other gender?
skaztheyounger
Well said!
secretdpp
Cant be too famously gay either. Ruby Rose got lit up harder by lesbians than trump supporters. Cause she was tooo famous.
ilhares
I assumed most of her problems were brought on by her own behavior (not I blame her for abandoning Batwoman, it's hot garbage).
secretdpp
This was at announcement of her getting thr part. Before we knew exactly how hot that trash fire was.
Sheldonian
https://youtu.be/sYSbk_tTsjk
singedrino
I was thinking that the same... and I don't care about what kind of sex people like. I want good actors doing good acting.
AlpacaFarms
There's two aspects to the argument in favor of LGBTQ actors playing LGBTQ roles as much as possible: a) they often get shut out of 1/
AlpacaFarms
Straight, cis roles as it is, so constantly giving LGBTQ roles to straight, cis actors limits their options. Notably straight actors don't 2
AlpacaFarms
face that kind of discrimination auditioning for LGBTQ roles. b) it's important to allow the LGBTQ community tell its own stories, just 3
AlpacaFarms
like it is for racial minorities to tell theirs. I know straight playing gay isn't the same as "playing" another race, but it means a lot 4
AlpacaFarms
For historically misrepresented groups to tell their own stories--and acting is only one part of the production but it has the most 5
Freemage69
There's also a subset of the trans community that simultaneously insists that trans people be cast in their chosen gender--and that ONLY 1/x
Vulkankaninchen
Yeah otherwise people like Eddie redmayne play tran women...
Freemage69
trans actors can be cast in a trans role. If TWAW, then any woman should be able to portray a transwoman so long as the character is 2/x
Freemage69
well-written. 3/3
NeynasGhost
The problem is more complicated than that but basically, gay/trans people are often ONLY cast for gay/trans roles, except they still have to
mrB3ND3R
If u think there aren't & haven't been gay actors playing straight chars for decades then u must live in some world class fallout bunker.
NeynasGhost
compete with cis/straight people to GET those roles, so they might not even get those much rarer spots. Casting a straight person to play
NeynasGhost
a gay person could be taking the role from a gay person, and additionally losing nuance that an actual gay person could bring to the role by
NeynasGhost
dint of experience. Personally, I think what we really need is more lgbt+ people in writing and directing, because all the gay roles in the
NeynasGhost
world aren't good if they're written by homophobes or people just looking for a few Progressiveness Points.
mrB3ND3R
Your "letter" shouldn't matter. It's called "acting" not "being".
rlopez2431415
Doesn’t that apply to race as well
thickythickydumdum
Or even neurodiverse characters (i.e. big bang theory..which is kinda cringey looking back)
rlopez2431415
What? Explain
thickythickydumdum
Someone once described big bang theory as "blackface but for autism"...i.e. Sheldon is clearly autistic but they use it for laughs.
Targe0
Yeah, if anything you want more people with letters in the writing room then on stage as any good actor can make it work, not every ->
Targe0
writer can write world views they haven't lived. So if you want diversity focus where it will do the best job of representing.
CarlottaVonSprockett
It’s tricky. On the one hand, we don’t want to revert to the days of white people in every role doing inappropriate caricatures, but also /1
TheWarHymn
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Race is visible. You can't cast someone and not know they're white, or black, or whatever. Sexual orientation/gender identity is different.
elinveronicap
How about disabilities?
JustANerdInTheWorld
Lots of shades between black & white. Good actors have range. It’s sad to see the arbitrary ‘rules’ we invent for ourselves.
CarlottaVonSprockett
True. I’m thinking of Cliff Curtis, for example, who is Maori racially but who has had a long and glorious career as all the brown races. /1
CarlottaVonSprockett
It would be a loss if he was only allowed to play Maori characters, and that’s it. He’s a great actor. 2/2
HappyTimeHollis
It's not about visible differences, it's about knowing the baggage that comes with that life. If you're straight, you will never truly know
HappyTimeHollis
or understand what queer people have to go through in life just like a white person will never truly understand what it's like to grow up
HappyTimeHollis
as a black person.
cosonfused
Avatar the last Airbender
CarlottaVonSprockett
Concerns about “pink face” are just as real and painful to some people in the LGBTQ+ community as black face, etc. I personally can’t /1
CarlottaVonSprockett
imagine telling someone they’re wrong to feel that way. 2/2
TheS4ndm4n
Discrimination works both ways. And it would be real problematic if actors would get cast based on their sexual preference...
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I get it, but I hope they're aware of how the idea can become really problematic really fast. Say a woman used to date other women in (1)
Targe0
But if that kind of standard gets implemented then no LGBT+ actor could ever play a non LGBT+ character which means those actors ->
CarlottaVonSprockett
this kind of narrowing of what is and isn’t allowed is going to get very complicated. 2/2
TheRelevancyOfMyNameIsRelativelyIrrelevant
the alternate sexuality movement has become the very monster the set out to slay. they preach tolerance through intolerance.
CarlottaVonSprockett
Targe0
Let actors act, if you can find the kind of actor you want that actually is the kind of person the role is all the better. But don't ->
Targe0
get hung up on it as the main objective. As sure having more LGBT+ actors is great but if the character is terribly written it's still ->
Targe0
not going to be good representation. The writing and directing are more important to it then who the actor likes to fuck in their off time.