Stuff like this infuriates me at our current congress, senators, Governors, City Mayors, Judges, press heads and any elected officials who claim they are "fighting for us", but don't speak up, and think they need to come at this like they need to compromise. Trump is the most thin skinned man in the world. Yet most don't stand up to him. I don't understand what they are afraid of. He's not difficult at all to expose more and more until he can finally be toppled.
Leo is doing some real brand image repair to the Catholic church. They have not had outright positive media coverage like this for a very long time. The Church still has a lot of shit it needs to take action on before forgiveness should be given. And even longer before they are redeemed. But still, Da Pope seems to be off to a good start.
To those who think BOB here and the Catholic Church are on the side of morality in their silly cat-fight with Trump, I say BUNK: They're all goddamn thieves, liars, and murderers! I give you the Doctrine of Discovery.
I’ve lived in Poland my whole life. It’s a very religious country. One of the most religious in Europe.
I’m 33. I have yet to see any actual growth or evolution from that organization and the community. They are all just as bigoted and hateful and ignorant as they were 30 years ago.
I’m bisexual, leftist, feminist and atheist. I also like Halloween. I’ve been an object of hate and ridicule and exclusion my whole life.
If I lived in a red state I’d have the same perception. Fortunately I live in a fairly mellow blue state where someone exactly like you can move in next door and comfortably make friends. Looking for a better place to live. You only get one life.
I get what you’re saying, but we could apply that logic to nearly every nation and religion across time. If we go back even 100 years, everyone was raping, pillaging, land grabbing and killing political enemies. The silver lining here is that Hegseth views himself as a crusader and now you have the pope shutting that narrative down…HARD.
I’d like to point out that popes have, throughout history, helped hide pedophilia within their own ranks. Just because we share a common enemy does not mean he’s not also an enemy.
The Catholic Church's recent operations as the world's largest pedophile exchange program pale in comparison to their history as the world's largest purveyor of genocides.
The pope saying this is damn hilarious. Let me explain on the example of my country, Poland. They own over 140 pieces of hugely expensive real estate in the middle of our former historic capitol, Kraków. When they want to buy something new they usually get it for a dime. They influence elections and use propaganda from the pulpit to polarize right wingers. They intentinally hide instances of child abuse by moving priests around using the "sanctity of confession" bullshit etc.
they push the "no birth control" agenda in third world countries, mostly africa and concentrate as much power as they can in the name of their idiotic god (in theory, we all know it's greed).
In essence. This is just the pot calling the kettle black. They kill a lot of people in third world countries with their policies. Just because the cross fetishists do it with policy instead of bombs doesn't make much difference in the end.
As long as he's taking shots at Trump and hurting his base I'll give him a pass. But every follower in that religion is a conservative somewhere and is 90% of the reason conservatism is still around.
It's not about forgetting, it's about recognising some kind of progress in the face of an organisation that isn't going away any time soon. You can appreciate that this pope is better than previous popes and still recognise that there are a ton of problems within the Catholic church.
Anyone would think nuance was dead and buried already...
Yes, and fixing the problems of the Church is not something so simple that a single person can do it. It will take a very long time to weed out all the people involved in covering it up. Because despite what many think, it's not the entire organisation involved with it, they have their own Peado network that covers for each other within the church. So actually purging them all can be hard because it is still hidden from many of the higher ups.
clemdarkstarzero
I’m an atheist but I back this pope
bonetonelord
I mean, sure, but this guy might want to take a look at literally the entire history of Christianity.
FlaskandStein
Stuff like this infuriates me at our current congress, senators, Governors, City Mayors, Judges, press heads and any elected officials who claim they are "fighting for us", but don't speak up, and think they need to come at this like they need to compromise. Trump is the most thin skinned man in the world. Yet most don't stand up to him. I don't understand what they are afraid of. He's not difficult at all to expose more and more until he can finally be toppled.
MrSatisify
lonelyrangerofthedreams
When the world turn so mad that even a so basic, obvious and old thing like the Pope professing peace became controversial.
Targe0
Leo is doing some real brand image repair to the Catholic church. They have not had outright positive media coverage like this for a very long time.
The Church still has a lot of shit it needs to take action on before forgiveness should be given. And even longer before they are redeemed. But still, Da Pope seems to be off to a good start.
RadicalLiberal
To those who think BOB here and the Catholic Church are on the side of morality in their silly cat-fight with Trump, I say BUNK: They're all goddamn thieves, liars, and murderers!
I give you the Doctrine of Discovery.
https://doctrineofdiscovery.org/
KalEl3188
The Catholic Church or the current US Administration? Which pedophiles do you support more?
CelestialSea
So... woe to anyone who's ever held a position of power in the church?
ActualTttony
Woe isn't enough. How about advanced syphilis
Firestar002
“It is an ill man to use god as an excuse to do what he personally wants.”
Fandible Unhallowed Metropolis. E13pt2. 2:07:50
aeroldoth
So there are no mirrors in the vatican. Unsurprising, for vampires.
duktayp
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYWNrNXpqdDhlbHd0djhwamVkZHR4MjVyMWhhZXJ0NHo3aHl4MWI4bSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FHsud3VVwaLgk/giphy.gif
Yasashii93
I would just like to point out that while at the moment this is a valid criticism of Trump’s admin, historically this is ironic as hell.
The Vatican has switched what it heralds as “God’s will” times to fit their political agenda at the time.
Remember the witch hunts, for instance? That was to prevent women from gaining independence in the patriarchal society.
The crusades? Suddenly ok to kill 9 million people. But god forbid you kill your rapist. That’s a sin.
davebarton315101
If someone or something is growing and evolving don’t discourage them. We can never pay all our debts but we can stop incurring them.
Yasashii93
I’ve lived in Poland my whole life. It’s a very religious country. One of the most religious in Europe.
I’m 33. I have yet to see any actual growth or evolution from that organization and the community. They are all just as bigoted and hateful and ignorant as they were 30 years ago.
I’m bisexual, leftist, feminist and atheist. I also like Halloween. I’ve been an object of hate and ridicule and exclusion my whole life.
No progress has been made, trust me.
davebarton315101
If I lived in a red state I’d have the same perception. Fortunately I live in a fairly mellow blue state where someone exactly like you can move in next door and comfortably make friends. Looking for a better place to live. You only get one life.
Yasashii93
Trust me, if I could afford it, I’d have gotten the fuck out of here many years ago.
wumpyflappysnurp
I get what you’re saying, but we could apply that logic to nearly every nation and religion across time. If we go back even 100 years, everyone was raping, pillaging, land grabbing and killing political enemies. The silver lining here is that Hegseth views himself as a crusader and now you have the pope shutting that narrative down…HARD.
llamasammich
I’d like to point out that popes have, throughout history, helped hide pedophilia within their own ranks. Just because we share a common enemy does not mean he’s not also an enemy.
bonetonelord
The Catholic Church's recent operations as the world's largest pedophile exchange program pale in comparison to their history as the world's largest purveyor of genocides.
llamasammich
You’re not wrong! Just an all-around awful organization.
TyrCarter
The pope saying this is damn hilarious. Let me explain on the example of my country, Poland. They own over 140 pieces of hugely expensive real estate in the middle of our former historic capitol, Kraków. When they want to buy something new they usually get it for a dime. They influence elections and use propaganda from the pulpit to polarize right wingers. They intentinally hide instances of child abuse by moving priests around using the "sanctity of confession" bullshit etc.
TyrCarter
they push the "no birth control" agenda in third world countries, mostly africa and concentrate as much power as they can in the name of their idiotic god (in theory, we all know it's greed).
In essence. This is just the pot calling the kettle black. They kill a lot of people in third world countries with their policies. Just because the cross fetishists do it with policy instead of bombs doesn't make much difference in the end.
In conclusion: christians to the lions
ConstantMissclicks
Trump admin threatened by the Catholic churches kid count. Jealous it can't cover up the epstein files half as well as the clergy.
Hotsauceman
I’m not catholic, but I respect this pope a lot!
awkungen42
As long as he's taking shots at Trump and hurting his base I'll give him a pass. But every follower in that religion is a conservative somewhere and is 90% of the reason conservatism is still around.
Jace99
Not even religious but I too like this Pope.
davebarton315101
Last one was pretty cool too.
my1rstlaptopwas34inchscreenup
hey man. i like anyone who shits on trump! pope, paupers, you shit on trumpers you're my friend
IHaveAGuyForEverything
Did we forget the Catholic Church is full of pedo’s?
WoeToHice
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but can useful in a fight against my enemy.
satanslittleposter
It's not about forgetting, it's about recognising some kind of progress in the face of an organisation that isn't going away any time soon. You can appreciate that this pope is better than previous popes and still recognise that there are a ton of problems within the Catholic church.
Anyone would think nuance was dead and buried already...
Targe0
Yes, and fixing the problems of the Church is not something so simple that a single person can do it.
It will take a very long time to weed out all the people involved in covering it up.
Because despite what many think, it's not the entire organisation involved with it, they have their own Peado network that covers for each other within the church. So actually purging them all can be hard because it is still hidden from many of the higher ups.