Jan 12, 2022 3:28 PM
floridaguy5867
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But i do hate the donald, and thought this was funny
Trankia12
coolkidwestern
It’s concerning people didn’t vote for who they wanted but who they hated less
dirrrtypiratehookerrr
I object to using Pam in this manner, Sir!
mfrybeasley
OriginalAndWitty
In all seriousness, democrats from 20-30 years ago would be appalled that Joe Biden is a democrat, he's a pretty centrist liberal, at best.
idownvoteplottwist
you know that outside the Very Online Internet that "liberal" and "democrat" are synonymous, right
copingcabana
Rooting for politicians is like choosing to root for either childhood cancer or torturing puppies.
NlGHTW0LF
memento765
The democrats aren’t better. The gop are worse. democrats agree with you then do nothing. gop don’t g a shit if you live or die & say so
Imalwaysready
Don't idolize ANY politicians until after their career is done and can be objectively assessed. I like "my side's" own people, sure, it's >
why I voted for them. But I am diehard for exactly none of them and would gladly fire any one in the next election if they are corrupt.
Bystandr
Kitastrophe
I'm still confused how anyone can summon strong feelings of any kind regarding Joe Biden. He's such a ... nothing burger
riderofthepurplesage
a nothing burger isn't nearly as harmful as an orange shit burger
TheWonderfulWorldOfDickButt
Someone I know said "we say it because Facebook will ban you." So I replied "Facebook bans you for saying Fuck Joe Biden?" Yet to be banned
lower88rider
At least we don't get lied to EVERY SINGLE DAY by the guy that's supposed to be our leader, supposed to have some integrity.
HoloSapien
Fuck em both in the neck.
MyNameIsNoneOfYourAffair
Yeah, biden's best trait is his "Not-Being-Trump"ness
Aaronb1138
Second not being Hillary. Seriously the whole core of the Democrat party is entirely clueless about her toxic public image. (even if her
intentions and policies are good) The middle has never trusted her since Bill's presidency. Her not being electable was never about emails.
IusallypoopwhileImonhere
What surprised my former moron roommate was we didn’t think Biden was amazing. Just he was gonna be an adult and so his job as president
WTFisUnderwear
My gf HATES Biden. Says he's just as bad as Trump. And I got no love for the guy but Im always like
richmondrosemead0
Hatred, even hyperbolically meant, is not a sustainable political outlook. Ultimately that way lies violence and the end of civil society.
umlcat
That's what a lot of people refuse to accept. It's not the bad vs the good one, it's the bad vs the worse...
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Saying fuck Sleepy Joe, should not be required to be followed by saying guck the Cheto Man.
casbott
Let's go Darwin.
myscaleisntaccurate
I didn’t vote for joe, I voted for not trump- see the difference?
ClumsyLeftistWhoDropsThings
I just wish we had a better option for not Trump...
I wish a mediocre choice wasn’t far and away the better option.
Mediocre is generous
But still a far better option
iamgnat
I wish we had real candidates and discourse so most people can stop voting "not the other guy"...
ProcrastinatingWork
We didn't vote for Biden. We voted against Trump.
ChucKTheCanadian
I like Biden less than I hate trump
ImpossibleAgenda
The bar for an improvement was ridiculously low.
Sullivanish
Yep. Biden is a bit of a damp towel, but his administration has trended mostly positive, as far as I'm concerned. Some exceptions.
Sonicschilidogs
Honestly, the only downsides I've seen aren't really even the admins fault. He honored the US agreement Trump made (which he is supposed to
Do as President) regarding Afghanistan. He is being forced to bring back Trump era immigration BS by the courts, and the Senate is locked.
xyxyxyxy31
Banjotron
The funniest part is that most people I know who voted Biden don't give a fuck about Biden. Just say fuck Biden like an adult. No one cares
BlahBlahBlacksheep555
But secret codes are fun!!!! heeheehee
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
100% this. I didn't vote FOR Joe Biden, I voted AGAINST Donald "Small Hands" Trump.
Hammertulski
As a Biden voter, no problems here calling his admin out on shortcomings as of late. It gets downvotes here, but who gives a fuck?
I've never once felt the need to go around talking in code because my feelings or lol high school was the best time of my life or whatever.
the42
With the other blatant, brazen crap they’ve gotten accustomed to, this whole Let’s Go Brandon stuff just makes them look sillier, somehow.
freckledkink
It cracks me up. If you look at people who are saying "Let's go Brandon", they have the memes and then "liberals" crying like it hurts our
Feelings when someone says that. I don't know if anyone who gets offended by that. I think it's stupid, like there's something wrong with
Them mentally, but I'm not offended.
RayWould
I would have voted for Comet Dibiasky over Trump in 2020…
Archeron
It originated when a crowd at a NASCAR event was chanting FJB and the reporter tried to cover it by saying they were chanting LGB.
Pimparoo3
Because you can't say fuck on live tv and not get your station fined.
Holinyx05
I never saw the orange guy eating ice cream. What's he got against ice cream? Fn ice cream racist
konmari
Also funny that the original crowd was actually saying “Fuck Joe Biden”. “Let’s go, Brandon” is a bad joke. But it’s all they have right now
thecollective01
It's all projection. Repubs think we love and worship Joe Biden the same way they love and worship Donald Trump
HonestlyNotARobot
Biden wasn't even in my top 3 choices for president. I voted for him to get Trump out. Most of us don't claim to love him
Democrats don't worship their political leaders as Gods. Republicans can't wait to get on their knees to gargle those orange balls
buttcreambandit
Ya I’m literally pissed joe Biden is the best Dems could come up with. But we voted and got trump out so wtf ever I guess
Hiboredimdad
Yeah the weird code thing makes me question why the voting poll doesn't have a maturity requirement.
Bmxrider70763
I didnt vote for biden when I voted for biden. I voted for "not trump".
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
No matter what Ive thought of former presidents, I never thought I couldve done a better job. Until trump. Anyone I know couldve done better
They could have put bernie from "weekend at bernie's" and I would have voted for the guy and even dance in the conga line with him.
Other bernie would have been ideal though.
iamthisguy247
People voted for Biden to get rid of Trump or because he was the best option at that point. Theyre not his fans. You don’t have to love them
Yep. trump people are so up trump's ass that they assume people on "the other side" MUST be the same way. We aren't, though. We 100% aren't.
capnadorable
Exactly, unfortunately our 2 party system means pick whoever sucks the least lol usually it’s not a great selection
rshini
that's the difference. Biden is someone that's better than trump, to Trumpers, Trump is their God.
DustyMcKnuckles
Being able to say "Fuck the POTUS" and not get disappeared is literally the 1st ammendment. Why side step and use some code like a 5yo?!
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
It's about making fun of the corporate "journalists" who pretend anyone like him.
timmaybanks
No it's because when people said fuck trump it hurt their fee fees and it doesn't hurt democrats because it's not a cult
Strangedays2026
Wait the first ammendment isn't for forcing private companies to violate social policy? Who knew!/s
GreyKnightTemplar666
Because, like their dear leader, they want a dictator to tell them what to do, and dictators will disappear somebody for being a dissenters
secondtalon
You use the simple dogwhistles to prep them for the more insidious ones.
Utecr
Because swearing is wrong, I guess.
bogus1983
To morons who desperately, achingly need to feel like they belong to something, it feels like a high-larious inside joke.
arkuamore
Because to them it's better to dogwhistle than say what they mean.
SugarRay59
They fucken love a dogwhistle though.
belindashort
Yep being in on some kind of joke or jab has always been more important to people like that
PresidentOfNewFreeLand
It’s a huge deal to have coded language for white supremacists. They know they are shit people, and don’t have the balls to admit it.
Joe is meh, not the best choice, but doing well though mostly. Could be doing much better. Trump is a dumpster fire tinpot dictator wannabe.
BennyLarva
as corrupt and established as anyone else in those echelons.
MadCat221
Trumpster fire?
saturatedcottonballs
Why am I just seeing this now? This is brilliant!
KillingTlme
His speech yesterday was so great though. I loved all the attacks on "the previous president" finally pointing out flaws.
The fact we have to say "finally" is part of the problem.
Solozzo
Though a very incovenient one, when comes to a president or a party, eveery country's choice now is the lesser evil.
pudaheh
He doesn't realize it but Trump was just clearing the way for President Carlson.
Durahl
Mhh... Considering the alternative, you could argue that he was indeed the best choice and if wouldn't have to deal with the mess of the ¹
"alternative" he could probably do a lot better dealing with other important and even less important things, no? ?
GingerIsOurWord
Biden is the equivalent of going bowling when your friends' last pick involved getting kicked in the balls for four years.
covideokilledtheradiostar
FWIW, democracy rarely will result in the 'best choice'. 'tis the nature of democracy.
BlancheTuttle
Yeah Joe Biden inherited like a thousand iterations of the Kobayashi Maru at once. He can't possibly win, but yes trying hard anyway.
and throw a corporate moron and a vapid attention whore gumming things up on the senate side.
Wenhen90
Underrated reference, +1.
Agreed, he's trying at least. And I give him credit for that. I'm hopeful we can increase the margins in our favor come midterm
invaderjay87
Joe is just the intermission
Lionskull
sadly i don't think people are cooling down during this intermission, and there is no good dem to replace him, i fear another trump term
Most likely, or someone worse. The Dems are complacent because then they can just blame Reps and Americans don’t know who to vote for.
Otherwise we might wise up and realize they’re both just making sure the money and power stays with them and corporations.
FizzleBurger
Joe is the least objectionable option. I'm a proponent of "Voting as a means of harm reduction."
DrArsMoriendi
Looking on from across the pond, Biden looks fine. Trump was a crackhead running out of tinfoil.
Metalbawkses
Leave Ford out of this
Biden is fine, yeah, but we could have done better. I'm hoping for better still and not going back to a trump 2.0 in 2024
zmanjace733
We are at a point we need better than fine or we will fall right back into the looney bin trump came out of. We might not make it out again.
PaintedSlate
That last outcome is all about public perception, not performance itself. Votes will make the difference in 2022 and 2024.
Honestly with what he started with, and still not having full senate control, I feel like he’s done as well as anyone could have.
Boffobeast
I agree with this. I was hoping the Afghanistan pull out wouldn’t have been so messy. It was going to be messy, but not managed well.
Agreed, the margins in both House and Senate aren't an easy thing to pass all the bills we need to right the hemorrhaging ship
Yeah and the GOP are only focussed on obstruction and making him look bad. It’s an uphill battle at all times.
TheFischerEquation
Honestly stunned at how much better Biden is doing than expected. Like dude really does not seem fully there but between pulling out of 1/
Afghanistan and hopefully fighting hard for abolishing the filibuster. That’s pretty good for a dude who introduced the policing bill. 2/2
keystotheairlock
My first choice is never room temperature water, but if the alternative beverage is a kiddie pool filled with blood and feces, water it is.
barnwolf
Room temp water is great for you. Better than that surgery shit, and easier to prepare than tea or something.
MissAgony
Hey, there's water in that kiddie pool too! Blood has water in it, duh
Zeddicuszull
The government doesn't exist to entertain you as competency is extremely boring and time consuming to do correctly.
JoshJitsu
Yeah, I voted for Biden, but I don't LIKE Biden, it was just the least repulsive option that would make sure an INSANE PERSON wasn't Pres.
sixseasonsandamov1e
I constantly hear that Biden isn't the best choice but no one ever elaborates. Just regurgitating other people's opinions.
He's doing well enough. But Elizabeth Warren was my first choice when it came to policies she was running on during the primaries.
copperdomebodhi
Two more Democrats in the senate, and we'd be praising him as the greatest since FDR.
FenrirsDaughter
Same. Joe wasn't what I wanted, he's a little disappointing, but he's still okay. It's like getting vanilla ice cream instead of strawberry.
Yeah, I think of it as wanting chocolate chip but just getting vanilla. Still 80% of what I wanted, just without the extra goodness to it
But if Trump won, it would have been like the Dairy Queen worker said fuck ice cream and doused me in gasoline instead.
HorseMcFucker
https://imgur.com/account/favorites/ZyBeMoC @op Just something to keep in mind.
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Sadly, I always thought he was the compromise who was most likely to beat trump AND most likely to lose to the GOP in 2024 as a result. I >
always thought some of the other candidates were harder sells to the public in 2020, but had much greater chances of winning 2 terms.
I can agree to that.
darkhalfbreed
How is like just above the bar for what a president should be, and that is better than someone who dug a trench under the bar because they
Thought they were playing limbo and tried to cheat even though they could easily walk under the bar
TaidaTaizai
Why is it that US politics are just "I hate x more then y, therefore I vote y"? This isn't the point of democracy.
Wrenfield
Because the ones we like more usually get weeded out in the preliminary process by competing interests. We hate the leftovers.
demosthenes89
It's a deliberate strategy by both parties to absolve themselves from actually governing or offering anything of substance to voters. 1/
You don't have to make yourself appealing if you make sure that people hate the other guy more. It frees them up to keep running the 2/
country in a way that only benefits themselves and the oligarchs. 3/3
enybi
Because of a system that by its very nature means only two parties can realistically win, so you end up choosing the one you hate less.
Yes, a democratic marvel
BillyM00n
Part of the problem stems from the American two-party system. In Canada, we have at least 3 mainstream parties and a few more fringe ones.
—lots of options.
KregArt
Not a perfect system either obviously, when we get a minority gov it’s slower at best.
TheUselessPhilosopher
I just want a universal healthcare option, student loan relief/adjustment, and the banning of congressional profiteering.
WhichIsIt
That was Elizabeth Warren
culinarydream7224
She'd definitely make it a higher priority, but she'd have to deal with Manchin and Sinema too
Dpunch4
And That's why I say fuck Biden along with them. There's not really two parties in America.just two sides of the same coin.
FlaccidHamster
If they give you all that what will they use to buy your votes next election? no no, empty promises will be all you get sir.
Keeping those things a reality? GOP only runs on taking things away from the voters
IconicM
And free universal higher education.
Obama tried to get a close as he could to Universal Healthcare. People forget that. It was gutted and stripped and had stupid shit added
To it, then all the propaganda about how it caused everyone's insurance to get fucked up (it was just the companies using it as an
Excuse). What we got and what was originally proposed are 2 different things. Fuck. Like Mississippi's medical marijuana.
papromic
Wanting what a lot of other countries have had for years...what are you?..and insane communist!
BaronSpaghetti
You monster.
lucyismydoggo
And climate action!
Add in voting security and expanding on mail in ballots and I'm game
ThankYouForYourTime
This does that. And the congressional profiteering part. https://represent.us/anticorruption-act/ We can do this!!!!
I'll take this over anything else. Democrats need a 8% numerical advantage to be even. That's what we have if everyone votes
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ihadsomethingforthis
My student loans will be paid in about 18 months, so I would expect some forgiveness program in about 19 months
You sound like youve got my flavor of luck
My greatest hope is those who have already paid off student loans will get a tax rebate based on how much they've paid off.
buckwin
Well, even if it doesn't help you much, it would help the rest of us!
I'm still all for it. I know how much it would have helped me.
FlyingButtPliers
I want election day changed to election week. Trying to get everyone in the country to vote the same day is arbitrary and pointless.
Yeah one day is largely an artifact of a smaller population
there is one main day yes but you can vote early sometimes weeks in advance.
Justawanderinggoat
Freedom to Vote Act would require all states to offer early voting for two weeks prior, including nights and weekends, 10hrs/day
That's awesome. I'll have to check it out in more detail
Mickp81
Good luck, none of those have even the slightest chance with our current system.
DrewBerg
Right? Despite the fact that is largely supported by American voters across the political spectrum.
Here’s a way to change it, the last part, at least: https://represent.us/anticorruption-act/
But none of that will ever get passed. The problem isn’t that we don’t know how to fix aspects of our system. 1/2
It’s that the system doesn’t want to be fixed. Congress doesn’t seem likely to pass laws that limit their money or power.
Yup. We're literally expecting the ones who control the levers of power to enact change that will take some of that power away. Real >
The solution to this is covered in their materials. Here’s a good starting point: https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/
DaMummy
So you voted for the guy that said would veto M4A if it passed House/Senate, the guy who wrote the Bankruptcy Bill, which made it impossible
to file for bankruptcy on student loans, and the 30+ year Senator from America's tax haven? 2/2
Yep, because only a Sith deals in absolutes. Biden isn't everything we wanted, but he was the best choice available.
Callynd
It was him or Donald at that point. Fuck fascists.
Than use this argument, and stop acting like you care about universal health care, student loan forgiveness, and taxing the rich.
TheUselessPhilosopher isn't making an argument, they're lamenting the situation.
ArchonIlladrya
It was the guy that would kill it, or the guy that would kill it and fuck the country in every conceivable manner. Not a great choice.
djzapz
Those options were not on the table at the time of the Trump/Biden election. Be serious.
when you are presented with 2 options but prefer a 3rd, and you choose between the only 2 available, it means you don’t care about the 3rd?
Trankia12
coolkidwestern
It’s concerning people didn’t vote for who they wanted but who they hated less
dirrrtypiratehookerrr
I object to using Pam in this manner, Sir!
mfrybeasley
OriginalAndWitty
In all seriousness, democrats from 20-30 years ago would be appalled that Joe Biden is a democrat, he's a pretty centrist liberal, at best.
idownvoteplottwist
you know that outside the Very Online Internet that "liberal" and "democrat" are synonymous, right
copingcabana
Rooting for politicians is like choosing to root for either childhood cancer or torturing puppies.
NlGHTW0LF
memento765
The democrats aren’t better. The gop are worse. democrats agree with you then do nothing. gop don’t g a shit if you live or die & say so
Imalwaysready
Don't idolize ANY politicians until after their career is done and can be objectively assessed. I like "my side's" own people, sure, it's >
Imalwaysready
why I voted for them. But I am diehard for exactly none of them and would gladly fire any one in the next election if they are corrupt.
Bystandr
Kitastrophe
I'm still confused how anyone can summon strong feelings of any kind regarding Joe Biden. He's such a ... nothing burger
riderofthepurplesage
a nothing burger isn't nearly as harmful as an orange shit burger
TheWonderfulWorldOfDickButt
Someone I know said "we say it because Facebook will ban you." So I replied "Facebook bans you for saying Fuck Joe Biden?" Yet to be banned
lower88rider
At least we don't get lied to EVERY SINGLE DAY by the guy that's supposed to be our leader, supposed to have some integrity.
HoloSapien
Fuck em both in the neck.
MyNameIsNoneOfYourAffair
Yeah, biden's best trait is his "Not-Being-Trump"ness
Aaronb1138
Second not being Hillary. Seriously the whole core of the Democrat party is entirely clueless about her toxic public image. (even if her
Aaronb1138
intentions and policies are good) The middle has never trusted her since Bill's presidency. Her not being electable was never about emails.
IusallypoopwhileImonhere
What surprised my former moron roommate was we didn’t think Biden was amazing. Just he was gonna be an adult and so his job as president
WTFisUnderwear
My gf HATES Biden. Says he's just as bad as Trump. And I got no love for the guy but Im always like
richmondrosemead0
Hatred, even hyperbolically meant, is not a sustainable political outlook. Ultimately that way lies violence and the end of civil society.
umlcat
That's what a lot of people refuse to accept. It's not the bad vs the good one, it's the bad vs the worse...
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Saying fuck Sleepy Joe, should not be required to be followed by saying guck the Cheto Man.
casbott
Let's go Darwin.
myscaleisntaccurate
I didn’t vote for joe, I voted for not trump- see the difference?
ClumsyLeftistWhoDropsThings
I just wish we had a better option for not Trump...
myscaleisntaccurate
I wish a mediocre choice wasn’t far and away the better option.
ClumsyLeftistWhoDropsThings
Mediocre is generous
myscaleisntaccurate
But still a far better option
iamgnat
I wish we had real candidates and discourse so most people can stop voting "not the other guy"...
ProcrastinatingWork
We didn't vote for Biden. We voted against Trump.
ChucKTheCanadian
I like Biden less than I hate trump
ImpossibleAgenda
The bar for an improvement was ridiculously low.
Sullivanish
Yep. Biden is a bit of a damp towel, but his administration has trended mostly positive, as far as I'm concerned. Some exceptions.
Sonicschilidogs
Honestly, the only downsides I've seen aren't really even the admins fault. He honored the US agreement Trump made (which he is supposed to
Sonicschilidogs
Do as President) regarding Afghanistan. He is being forced to bring back Trump era immigration BS by the courts, and the Senate is locked.
xyxyxyxy31
Banjotron
The funniest part is that most people I know who voted Biden don't give a fuck about Biden. Just say fuck Biden like an adult. No one cares
BlahBlahBlacksheep555
But secret codes are fun!!!! heeheehee
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
100% this. I didn't vote FOR Joe Biden, I voted AGAINST Donald "Small Hands" Trump.
Hammertulski
As a Biden voter, no problems here calling his admin out on shortcomings as of late. It gets downvotes here, but who gives a fuck?
Hammertulski
I've never once felt the need to go around talking in code because my feelings or lol high school was the best time of my life or whatever.
the42
With the other blatant, brazen crap they’ve gotten accustomed to, this whole Let’s Go Brandon stuff just makes them look sillier, somehow.
freckledkink
It cracks me up. If you look at people who are saying "Let's go Brandon", they have the memes and then "liberals" crying like it hurts our
freckledkink
Feelings when someone says that. I don't know if anyone who gets offended by that. I think it's stupid, like there's something wrong with
freckledkink
Them mentally, but I'm not offended.
RayWould
I would have voted for Comet Dibiasky over Trump in 2020…
Archeron
It originated when a crowd at a NASCAR event was chanting FJB and the reporter tried to cover it by saying they were chanting LGB.
Pimparoo3
Because you can't say fuck on live tv and not get your station fined.
Holinyx05
I never saw the orange guy eating ice cream. What's he got against ice cream? Fn ice cream racist
konmari
Also funny that the original crowd was actually saying “Fuck Joe Biden”. “Let’s go, Brandon” is a bad joke. But it’s all they have right now
thecollective01
It's all projection. Repubs think we love and worship Joe Biden the same way they love and worship Donald Trump
HonestlyNotARobot
Biden wasn't even in my top 3 choices for president. I voted for him to get Trump out. Most of us don't claim to love him
Holinyx05
Democrats don't worship their political leaders as Gods. Republicans can't wait to get on their knees to gargle those orange balls
buttcreambandit
Ya I’m literally pissed joe Biden is the best Dems could come up with. But we voted and got trump out so wtf ever I guess
Hiboredimdad
Yeah the weird code thing makes me question why the voting poll doesn't have a maturity requirement.
Bmxrider70763
I didnt vote for biden when I voted for biden. I voted for "not trump".
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
No matter what Ive thought of former presidents, I never thought I couldve done a better job. Until trump. Anyone I know couldve done better
Bmxrider70763
They could have put bernie from "weekend at bernie's" and I would have voted for the guy and even dance in the conga line with him.
Bmxrider70763
Other bernie would have been ideal though.
iamthisguy247
People voted for Biden to get rid of Trump or because he was the best option at that point. Theyre not his fans. You don’t have to love them
Imalwaysready
Yep. trump people are so up trump's ass that they assume people on "the other side" MUST be the same way. We aren't, though. We 100% aren't.
capnadorable
Exactly, unfortunately our 2 party system means pick whoever sucks the least lol usually it’s not a great selection
rshini
that's the difference. Biden is someone that's better than trump, to Trumpers, Trump is their God.
DustyMcKnuckles
Being able to say "Fuck the POTUS" and not get disappeared is literally the 1st ammendment. Why side step and use some code like a 5yo?!
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
It's about making fun of the corporate "journalists" who pretend anyone like him.
timmaybanks
No it's because when people said fuck trump it hurt their fee fees and it doesn't hurt democrats because it's not a cult
Strangedays2026
Wait the first ammendment isn't for forcing private companies to violate social policy? Who knew!/s
GreyKnightTemplar666
Because, like their dear leader, they want a dictator to tell them what to do, and dictators will disappear somebody for being a dissenters
secondtalon
You use the simple dogwhistles to prep them for the more insidious ones.
Archeron
It originated when a crowd at a NASCAR event was chanting FJB and the reporter tried to cover it by saying they were chanting LGB.
Utecr
Because swearing is wrong, I guess.
bogus1983
To morons who desperately, achingly need to feel like they belong to something, it feels like a high-larious inside joke.
arkuamore
Because to them it's better to dogwhistle than say what they mean.
SugarRay59
They fucken love a dogwhistle though.
belindashort
Yep being in on some kind of joke or jab has always been more important to people like that
PresidentOfNewFreeLand
It’s a huge deal to have coded language for white supremacists. They know they are shit people, and don’t have the balls to admit it.
GreyKnightTemplar666
Joe is meh, not the best choice, but doing well though mostly. Could be doing much better. Trump is a dumpster fire tinpot dictator wannabe.
BennyLarva
as corrupt and established as anyone else in those echelons.
MadCat221
Trumpster fire?
saturatedcottonballs
Why am I just seeing this now? This is brilliant!
KillingTlme
His speech yesterday was so great though. I loved all the attacks on "the previous president" finally pointing out flaws.
Imalwaysready
The fact we have to say "finally" is part of the problem.
Solozzo
Though a very incovenient one, when comes to a president or a party, eveery country's choice now is the lesser evil.
pudaheh
He doesn't realize it but Trump was just clearing the way for President Carlson.
Durahl
Mhh... Considering the alternative, you could argue that he was indeed the best choice and if wouldn't have to deal with the mess of the ¹
Durahl
"alternative" he could probably do a lot better dealing with other important and even less important things, no? ?
GingerIsOurWord
Biden is the equivalent of going bowling when your friends' last pick involved getting kicked in the balls for four years.
covideokilledtheradiostar
FWIW, democracy rarely will result in the 'best choice'. 'tis the nature of democracy.
BlancheTuttle
Yeah Joe Biden inherited like a thousand iterations of the Kobayashi Maru at once. He can't possibly win, but yes trying hard anyway.
rshini
and throw a corporate moron and a vapid attention whore gumming things up on the senate side.
Wenhen90
Underrated reference, +1.
GreyKnightTemplar666
Agreed, he's trying at least. And I give him credit for that. I'm hopeful we can increase the margins in our favor come midterm
invaderjay87
Joe is just the intermission
Lionskull
sadly i don't think people are cooling down during this intermission, and there is no good dem to replace him, i fear another trump term
invaderjay87
Most likely, or someone worse. The Dems are complacent because then they can just blame Reps and Americans don’t know who to vote for.
invaderjay87
Otherwise we might wise up and realize they’re both just making sure the money and power stays with them and corporations.
FizzleBurger
Joe is the least objectionable option. I'm a proponent of "Voting as a means of harm reduction."
DrArsMoriendi
Looking on from across the pond, Biden looks fine. Trump was a crackhead running out of tinfoil.
Metalbawkses
Leave Ford out of this
GreyKnightTemplar666
Biden is fine, yeah, but we could have done better. I'm hoping for better still and not going back to a trump 2.0 in 2024
zmanjace733
We are at a point we need better than fine or we will fall right back into the looney bin trump came out of. We might not make it out again.
PaintedSlate
That last outcome is all about public perception, not performance itself. Votes will make the difference in 2022 and 2024.
iamthisguy247
Honestly with what he started with, and still not having full senate control, I feel like he’s done as well as anyone could have.
Boffobeast
I agree with this. I was hoping the Afghanistan pull out wouldn’t have been so messy. It was going to be messy, but not managed well.
GreyKnightTemplar666
Agreed, the margins in both House and Senate aren't an easy thing to pass all the bills we need to right the hemorrhaging ship
iamthisguy247
Yeah and the GOP are only focussed on obstruction and making him look bad. It’s an uphill battle at all times.
TheFischerEquation
Honestly stunned at how much better Biden is doing than expected. Like dude really does not seem fully there but between pulling out of 1/
TheFischerEquation
Afghanistan and hopefully fighting hard for abolishing the filibuster. That’s pretty good for a dude who introduced the policing bill. 2/2
keystotheairlock
My first choice is never room temperature water, but if the alternative beverage is a kiddie pool filled with blood and feces, water it is.
barnwolf
Room temp water is great for you. Better than that surgery shit, and easier to prepare than tea or something.
MissAgony
Hey, there's water in that kiddie pool too! Blood has water in it, duh
Zeddicuszull
The government doesn't exist to entertain you as competency is extremely boring and time consuming to do correctly.
JoshJitsu
Yeah, I voted for Biden, but I don't LIKE Biden, it was just the least repulsive option that would make sure an INSANE PERSON wasn't Pres.
sixseasonsandamov1e
I constantly hear that Biden isn't the best choice but no one ever elaborates. Just regurgitating other people's opinions.
GreyKnightTemplar666
He's doing well enough. But Elizabeth Warren was my first choice when it came to policies she was running on during the primaries.
copperdomebodhi
Two more Democrats in the senate, and we'd be praising him as the greatest since FDR.
FenrirsDaughter
Same. Joe wasn't what I wanted, he's a little disappointing, but he's still okay. It's like getting vanilla ice cream instead of strawberry.
GreyKnightTemplar666
Yeah, I think of it as wanting chocolate chip but just getting vanilla. Still 80% of what I wanted, just without the extra goodness to it
FenrirsDaughter
But if Trump won, it would have been like the Dairy Queen worker said fuck ice cream and doused me in gasoline instead.
HorseMcFucker
https://imgur.com/account/favorites/ZyBeMoC @op Just something to keep in mind.
GreyKnightTemplar666
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Imalwaysready
Sadly, I always thought he was the compromise who was most likely to beat trump AND most likely to lose to the GOP in 2024 as a result. I >
Imalwaysready
always thought some of the other candidates were harder sells to the public in 2020, but had much greater chances of winning 2 terms.
GreyKnightTemplar666
I can agree to that.
darkhalfbreed
How is like just above the bar for what a president should be, and that is better than someone who dug a trench under the bar because they
darkhalfbreed
Thought they were playing limbo and tried to cheat even though they could easily walk under the bar
TaidaTaizai
Why is it that US politics are just "I hate x more then y, therefore I vote y"? This isn't the point of democracy.
Wrenfield
Because the ones we like more usually get weeded out in the preliminary process by competing interests. We hate the leftovers.
demosthenes89
It's a deliberate strategy by both parties to absolve themselves from actually governing or offering anything of substance to voters. 1/
demosthenes89
You don't have to make yourself appealing if you make sure that people hate the other guy more. It frees them up to keep running the 2/
demosthenes89
country in a way that only benefits themselves and the oligarchs. 3/3
enybi
Because of a system that by its very nature means only two parties can realistically win, so you end up choosing the one you hate less.
TaidaTaizai
Yes, a democratic marvel
BillyM00n
Part of the problem stems from the American two-party system. In Canada, we have at least 3 mainstream parties and a few more fringe ones.
BillyM00n
—lots of options.
KregArt
Not a perfect system either obviously, when we get a minority gov it’s slower at best.
TheUselessPhilosopher
I just want a universal healthcare option, student loan relief/adjustment, and the banning of congressional profiteering.
WhichIsIt
That was Elizabeth Warren
culinarydream7224
She'd definitely make it a higher priority, but she'd have to deal with Manchin and Sinema too
Dpunch4
And That's why I say fuck Biden along with them. There's not really two parties in America.just two sides of the same coin.
FlaccidHamster
If they give you all that what will they use to buy your votes next election? no no, empty promises will be all you get sir.
GreyKnightTemplar666
Keeping those things a reality? GOP only runs on taking things away from the voters
IconicM
And free universal higher education.
freckledkink
Obama tried to get a close as he could to Universal Healthcare. People forget that. It was gutted and stripped and had stupid shit added
freckledkink
To it, then all the propaganda about how it caused everyone's insurance to get fucked up (it was just the companies using it as an
freckledkink
Excuse). What we got and what was originally proposed are 2 different things. Fuck. Like Mississippi's medical marijuana.
papromic
Wanting what a lot of other countries have had for years...what are you?..and insane communist!
BaronSpaghetti
You monster.
lucyismydoggo
And climate action!
GreyKnightTemplar666
Add in voting security and expanding on mail in ballots and I'm game
ThankYouForYourTime
This does that. And the congressional profiteering part. https://represent.us/anticorruption-act/ We can do this!!!!
timmaybanks
I'll take this over anything else. Democrats need a 8% numerical advantage to be even. That's what we have if everyone votes
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ihadsomethingforthis
My student loans will be paid in about 18 months, so I would expect some forgiveness program in about 19 months
DustyMcKnuckles
You sound like youve got my flavor of luck
TheUselessPhilosopher
My greatest hope is those who have already paid off student loans will get a tax rebate based on how much they've paid off.
buckwin
Well, even if it doesn't help you much, it would help the rest of us!
ihadsomethingforthis
I'm still all for it. I know how much it would have helped me.
FlyingButtPliers
I want election day changed to election week. Trying to get everyone in the country to vote the same day is arbitrary and pointless.
rshini
Yeah one day is largely an artifact of a smaller population
FlaccidHamster
there is one main day yes but you can vote early sometimes weeks in advance.
Justawanderinggoat
Freedom to Vote Act would require all states to offer early voting for two weeks prior, including nights and weekends, 10hrs/day
FlyingButtPliers
That's awesome. I'll have to check it out in more detail
Mickp81
Good luck, none of those have even the slightest chance with our current system.
DrewBerg
Right? Despite the fact that is largely supported by American voters across the political spectrum.
ThankYouForYourTime
Here’s a way to change it, the last part, at least: https://represent.us/anticorruption-act/
Mickp81
But none of that will ever get passed. The problem isn’t that we don’t know how to fix aspects of our system. 1/2
Mickp81
It’s that the system doesn’t want to be fixed. Congress doesn’t seem likely to pass laws that limit their money or power.
DrewBerg
Yup. We're literally expecting the ones who control the levers of power to enact change that will take some of that power away. Real >
ThankYouForYourTime
The solution to this is covered in their materials. Here’s a good starting point: https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/
DaMummy
So you voted for the guy that said would veto M4A if it passed House/Senate, the guy who wrote the Bankruptcy Bill, which made it impossible
DaMummy
to file for bankruptcy on student loans, and the 30+ year Senator from America's tax haven? 2/2
IconicM
Yep, because only a Sith deals in absolutes. Biden isn't everything we wanted, but he was the best choice available.
Callynd
It was him or Donald at that point. Fuck fascists.
DaMummy
Than use this argument, and stop acting like you care about universal health care, student loan forgiveness, and taxing the rich.
Callynd
TheUselessPhilosopher isn't making an argument, they're lamenting the situation.
ArchonIlladrya
It was the guy that would kill it, or the guy that would kill it and fuck the country in every conceivable manner. Not a great choice.
djzapz
Those options were not on the table at the time of the Trump/Biden election. Be serious.
WhichIsIt
when you are presented with 2 options but prefer a 3rd, and you choose between the only 2 available, it means you don’t care about the 3rd?