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aperfectlycromulentusername
Auto and health insurance are two completely separate things. Health protects you, auto protects others. Ppl need to learn the difference
JustinDelgadillo
It's a scam, he's literally using a photo that's been in other scams since 2015. And people are giving him $.
pfsar
If he's committing fraud then he should be prosecuted for it and go to jail.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
making sure everyone knows you're gay and republican: when you realize being gay isn't gonna get you attention but you need to be different
PangolinBan
Proper, likely single-payer, public healthcare is a lot like mandatory gofundme for everyone's medical bills. Healthy 20-somethings 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 should consider that health doesn't last. All bodies deteriorate. Fact of life. Think ahead, get insured sooner so it's cheaper.
HiddenSanity
Nah, mandatory gofundmes would still be like a multi-payer system.
PangolinBan
It'd be one massive perpetual gofundme, with gofundme-the-company being the single payer.
HiddenSanity
Kinda, except they'd then buy things in bulk for the hospitals, so no charging per bandage, per hip replacement, and so on.
PangolinBan
That's not how single-payer works. Hospitals buy their own supplies. They send itemized bills to the single payer.
beergolem
I don't agree with the guy, but remember that a lot of libertarian types look at charity as voluntary market and therefore better than tax.
Exoticz
Anarcho-Capitalist here. Most people didn't spot the difference between being against forced insurance and asking for voluntary donations.
beergolem
Criticism must always be rooted in actuality and not misconstruction. If not, we're dismantling politics - not opposing views.
doubleKlutch
What?
Equatemylifewithsand
Car insurance and HEALTH insurance are two different things.
whydotheycometometodie
Yes. His first post is about health insurance. The accident photo is about driving insurance.
intaglioguy
Does gofundme have a "report a scammer" link?
TheRevanChrist
Because its voluntary.
Idiotcommentsforidiotpeopleaboutidiottasksonidiotthreadidiot
Fuck him with a a thousand dildos
bestdog
Pisses me off when some local's house burns down and they gofundme because they never bought insurance. I've paid tens of thousands
bestdog
over my life for it. Why should I help you? You had all that extra income all those years, so.....
melwil
Insurance is money you gladly pay for something you hope to never use.
VutheCommunityVillain
Gladly pay, or if it's health insurance pay or go to prison, you know pretty much the same thing.
RaynWisp
Lady tried to sell me insurance on my $50 cell phone... the deductible was $50... Worse yet is the other people were buying it, same phone.
melwil
There's a limit to what you insure. Your life, your car, your house and your most prized possessions are a no-brainer.
WrongUn
Well, given my premium and my income, 'painfully' is probably the more apt adjective for me
rocostarr
The accident knocked the fucking Sass out of him.
tooomanysteves
How about a go-fund-me that ANYONE can draw from? We can call it... public health medical care. Maybe medicare for short?
DicksmackMcgee
Gay Republican? Isn't that like being a black white supremacist?
STINKPICKEL
Name callers don't go for logic, they go for what evokes emotional responses, so what comes out of their mouths often is senseless.
ThailandExpress
Markamanic
It's almost like we live in societies that has to take care of everyone to thrive
somethinginthecorner
He's blessed to say there was no drugs or alcohol involved? That's a blessing? I believe there is a choice there
todayok
That's right up there with #prayfor(lastest disaster victims)
ITalkAboutGoats
Maybe he's thankful the OTHER people weren't drunk etc
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
Maybe he meant that he got lucky on the timing?
Mavgurian
"Luckily I was not drunk that day for once."
ThePakistallion
More like gofuckyouself.com
ashtrey79
Gofundyourself
Gmayor61
Holy fuck this should be a real website that calls out sketchy fundraisers
ThePakistallion
Great idea. Let's do it.
MachineGunJeanMaurice
Ah, and here I am, living all up in my no-fault province with relatively efficient and free health-care. Ahhhh. Breathe it in.
Davredz
Who is going to fund the people that have to claim on their own insurance because he had none?
tzap
That's not the same. Insurance companies are in it just for profit - they aren't helping you due to their altruism. Also, insurance's 1/2
tzap
best part is not covering the damage on you - who cares about your $2k toyota - but the damage on the other vehicle if you're at fault. 2/2
RazorAndBladeSavedTheDay
I'd say "send in the burn unit!" But it seems they're already aware of the situation
Doolally
These US health insurance related posts always confuse me. Then I realize, it's reality for so many people. Feels sad man.
IratetheD
yes i was uninsured for a while but when you are young and poor you have no choice.
Doolally
Where I am from, all over 18 have no choice but to be insured if they study, work or are registered as unempoyed. Under 18 are all insured.
IratetheD
wow what magical place is that???
Doolally
Estonia!
IratetheD
cool is it nice there?
Doolally
The social tax is 33% that covers health and pension and is payed by the employer or the government (for unemployed and students).
droppointalpha
I don't get it. Auto covers vehicular injuries & that does not look significant enough for reg health insurance unless no seatbelt.
Bystandr
Ive seen broken bones in accidents that occurred at low speed and showed little damage as a result to the vehicles. Transfer of momentum
Bystandr
favors the heavier objects. In an auto collision, the human is smaller than the vehicle by an order of magnitude or more.
Bystandr
TL;DR - the humans inside can get banged around more than the cars even when properly restrained.
UpVoteAllDogs
I was in an accident where the car looked like that. I had my seatbelt on. I fractured a vertebra. It could be serious
cthulhubeard
Only if it is the other person's fault and they have auto insurance. And there are limits depending on their coverage.
PhloydPhan
It depends a lot on the state and the policy. If you want to cheap out, you can usually forego 1st party medical on an auto policy.
droppointalpha
Also, these exchanges always seem so contrite and staged.
Flipvan
Welcome to Imgur.
Madvillan
Contrite, I like that. That's a good way to put it.
TeamToasterNeverForget
Thank God I live in a country where we pay so much tax that we don't have to worry about all of this. It's also paid automatically so (1/2)
VutheCommunityVillain
Thank God I live in a country where we don't have to pay for insurance. It's free after the government takes it out of our paychecks.
TeamToasterNeverForget
It's not like I ever see the money and there by I don't really feel I pay taxes. I mean I can see it on my tax return but it's just a number
MidgetRacer8192
"Thank God I live in a country where we pay so much tax..." yea... THERE is a great thing to be thankful for.
ITalkAboutGoats
They don't pay significantly more than the US. Insurance + taxes for us is more than just taxes for them
kattpappan
I just dont understand how a country that claims to be #1 is so god damn ass backwards when it comes to universal healthcare and insurance.
Xandraelle
Not just on those, It's lacking in Education, Retirement, Infrastructure, but hey, at least they have a strong military
Exoticz
Healthcare is not a right though.
ITalkAboutGoats
Being alive isn't a right. Got it. Can I shoot you?
Exoticz
That is not how rights work. Having a right to life does not mean you can violate other people's rights to sustain that 'right'. 1/2
ITalkAboutGoats
Really? Failing to treat a treatable disease that results in someone's death is pretty cut and dry. Ask me about it. It's happening to me.
Exoticz
What I meant with that is that if you can violate another person's right to sustain your own, then rights are meaningless. 1/2
Exoticz
Let me explain what I mean by asking you a question, do you think we have a 'right to sex' in the same way we have a right to life? 2/2
whitevfute
In Australia we cant register a car without a green slip. It is basically insurance for the people in the car. Seperate from car insurance
Treblaine
Green slip?
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Treblaine
What is a green slip in that region?
theLNIfairy
many states in the US are like this as well - but it varies state to state.
candleinhisdick
You can't renew in Ontario without it
WeeBabySeamus22
In Victoria you don't.
whitevfute
Victoria hac tac. Im pretty sure its the same thing, just from the government
DiggerPlease
That just covers property and pedestrians, you need separate insurance 3rd party insurance for other cars in Victoria
whitevfute
Yeah. Seperate from your tac
DiggerPlease
I reread what you wrote and you're right, people in the car and property damages are covered by rego fees
DiggerPlease
You're right
Reorder
missing the one where he says his insurance, that he has, isnt covering the accident.
growlingmeattank
He made a free market decision and should live with it (based on libertarian philosophy)
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ELpolloNewman
https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/sassy-gay-republican-car-accident-health-insurance/
Nightcaste
https://twitter.com/sassygayrepub/status/910236170868580352?s=09
Nightcaste
Or you can take 30 seconds and not be an ass.
organicsnail
Boom, roasted, Boston Market
Stanistani
Owning a car and having breakable bones are pre-existing conditions.
computerphile
Extra breakable bones (Osteogenesis Imperfecta) is a real pre-existing condition though..
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
alright. that flew in from left field but alright.
oseo
Breathing: Also a pre-existing condition.
GeneralBullshit
"So you're saying your bones are breakable?" -Scribles in more numbers in your insurance policy-
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
so either he only has liability insurance or it was his fault... which doesn't change the fact that he's looking for a handout.
IvnWng
It's GoFundMe, the whole platform survives on handouts.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
the entire republican platform survives on not asking for handouts.
arrkay
On saying they're not asking for handouts.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
this guy gets it.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Yet red states receive more "handouts" from welfare and food stamps than blue states.
IPostAboutPoliticsIfYouDontLikeItSuckIt
Apparently, this dude is some sorta scammer. As much as I'd love this to be true, I don't think it is. He's just trying to fleece money.
dirtytomato
That explains why the insurance company doesn't want to provide coverage for this accident.
DodgeDuckDipDiveDodge
Sure seems to be. Says in his GoFundMe that his insurance is State Farm, calls out American Family in his tweets for not covering him
pfsar
Isn't this just fraud? That's not his car after an accident, and there's no evidence he's even been in an accident. I hope he goes to jail.
modalnode
Correct. Photo is from 2015. https://twitter.com/spookperson/status/910734404397318146
rattlebone10
I NEVER donate to a gofundme if I don't personally know the person.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
My policy stops 7 words sooner than yours.
rattlebone10
You make a good point. And I have to upload a picture of my dog too.
Desh23
The photo he used is from 2015 so you're probably right.
BourneID
This has been debunked - the image was RT, causing Google to link the image to the 2015 (when the account was created)
BourneID
But at the same time he failed to declare he used his car for work purposes, hence no insurance payout.
Desh23
In any case he got bitchslapped by karma.
Mankytoes
But why would he make the first post, which is only going to make him less likely to get support?
sunsetblud
The previous post generated publicity and accelerated how many people viewed his go fund me. It was used as a way to get views.
JackFistfight
because it was posted six months before he came up with the idea to scam gofundme
NotAHugeSpider
Awww, have pity on him. Send him an extra dose of thoughts and prayers.
Idosss
The covers are lit
Equinox13
I pray he gets all the monetary contributions he deserves. Amen.
MELexclamationmark
In the end people are powerless when these kinds of things happen and i don't get the recent trend of people as powerless shitting on them
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
You're powerless if you let it be so. That's why charity events/organizations exist when shit happens so everyone willing can help.
MELexclamationmark
Some people just don't have the money/time , in the end kind words are better than nothing
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
Everyone has 1 euro and 10 minutes to spare every few months. Even that is better than empty words on facebook.
NoodlePubes
Most people can't help but posting statuses that only their social media friends see, for likes, is just a selfish cry for attention.
peopleperson
Not if it's just on your own, 90 follower instagram. If you want to send kind words to people effected use a post card and a stamp.
AnAccountToPostThis
Words are worse than nothing. Not only do they not help but theyre also self serving virtue signalling.
SergeantSalsa
"I'm blessed to say I was sober & no drugs played any role..." ex-fucking-cuse me? NO. YOU'RE NOT BLESSED. THAT'S HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
Treblaine
"well normally I'm fucking toasted, son. What at the chances I crash my car the one time I'm not fucking blacked out on uppers and downers?"
beleginwaffle
*insert Chris Rock imitation* You're supposed to you dumb motha fu
ashmenon
In other words, he's usually drunk and/or high, but he was blessed that he wasn't THAT time.
comehomefransbrauder
Yes, this. Thought the same thing.
Toastfrog
Haha I saw that too and was thinking the same thing
Showmeyourotters
Well even then, that sounds like something someone who was not sober and did have drugs playing a role would say.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
When you're running a scam you use the same lingo as the people you're trying to rip off. In this case, naive Facebook/DaytimeTV Christians.
jdore8
Probably texting or updating his social media.
Gantzz321
so he was sober THIS time is it read to me.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Reads like the awkward writing of a 13yr old.
NotAHugeSpider
Some people expect cookies and praise for doing the same normal decent stuff the rest of us quietly do everyday.
Bulletsandblueyes
I'd settle for just the cookie Thanks
severice
,I take care of my kids, what do you want a cookie? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS YOU LOW EXPECTATION MOTHERFUCKER! -Chris Rock
tremonti
Yes. I will take my adulations now.
icelandicsealbear
I think he's establishing early that he is the victim in every way, and if nothing else, he is a victim of happenstance, not his neglect.
NickBlight
God I fucking hate the Prodigal Son
HotSpoon
usernamesmustbeatleast4charactersinlenght
The prodigal son doesn't do his duties,fucks up and gets everything
HotSpoon
I know the tale. Was just wondering if you meant something else.
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
The prodigal son gets a party. The faithful son inherits the farm.
OffensiveAndInsultingComments
Why should I have to pay for the fire department when my house isn't on fire?
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upsidedownyhead
Yes. Police and fire services are taxpayer funded. Healthcare should be too.
firefighter26
Ryanator50
why should I have to pay for universal health care when I'm... oh wait...
NotAnUberUsername
"In a segment we call, back in black"
shmekie
A wealthy Roman in Ancient Roman times basically invented the idea of a fire dept using his slaves and charging astronomical fees...
shmekie
To put out the fire. If you refused, he would let it burn and buy the land to add to his real estate empire. I think it was Pompey.
LionOfRome
More likely Marcus Licinius Crassus who was by far the richest Roman. I know Pompey used slaves to put out fires during civil war, but i've
LionOfRome
never heard of anyone making a business from it.
GreedyJungle
Just remember some people payed for the police to shoot them.
brizzle4202624
#taxationistheft
FloridaMansSideKick
Who the fuck downvoted this. Who the fuck doesn't get this. And how the fuck?!
Danishlmgurian
Why should I pay taxes for roads to be maintained when I don't drive on then right now?
YourButtIsSpatulaShaped
I suppose you live completely off the grid and grow your own food. You in no way benefit from the roads.
doctorbees
You say this in jest, but there are some people that actually think like this.
KillDozzer
Fire department is a public service. Health insurance is individual service. You should be able to opt out of health. 1/2
KillDozzer
But you can't turn around and complain if you actually need and chose not to purchase it.
oseo
I hope this is sarcasm.
SpiralPotatoFucker
Oof, you missed it. Better luck next time.
AwesomeTeddybear
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
It was a joke on the daily show.
silentjay01
Lewis Black is the MAN!
Treblaine
Oh GOP will be going after them next. The end game: replace US armed forces with a consortium of mercenary groups.
adjustsociety
Conservative govt's all over the world have spent decades going after professional firefighters. It's sad and it isn't getting any better.
Treblaine
My issue is how the fuck is this conservatism? Saying this is conservative is like saying Stalin was a progressive. It's too extreme.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
You say that, but that's literally how American conservatives largely try to discredit liberals and progressives compare them to communists.
Treblaine
Just because one side IS extreme and is called extreme, doesn't mean that the other side is equally deserving or undeserving.
Treblaine
Saying "Medicare For All is Stalinism" is nowhere close to saying "undermining fire departments is an extreme beyond normal conservatism".
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Conservatism is just another old title on new and awful policies. Trump and Lincoln are both Republicans, but they are fucking not the same.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
I mean republicans were in the beginning a one issue party, then the liberal party, then a mixed party then a conservative party.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
I think I a word in the got wrong order there
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39516346/ns/us_news-life/t/no-pay-no-spray-firefighters-let-home-burn/
ilsalta
I think this is how it needs to be. Too many assholes resent being forced to contribute to a well functioning society.
stormegedendarklordofall
That's retarded
MadeAnAccountJustToFavouriteThis
Is this satire?
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
No, it's the reality of insurance. You pay for it always so that it's there when you need it.
TayTay051
What the actual fuck America. Come on!
PlatonicPancake
This is often a result of the home being fully involved and not actually able to be saved. The owners are blaming a fee
Xieko
I was in a nearby town at the time for college. This was huge news in Tennessee and everyone was shocked.
BillysLegendaryCrack
Wow holy shit, in rural aus they'd want to get on it quick cause we're ridiculous for bush fires, that fee shit is insane.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
In Rural Aus you probably have government provided fire departments. In this case they did show up and wouldn't let it spread but left the
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
property alone.
Naiirita
usual rules are they will attempt to get any body inside out, and stop it from spreading but are not going to put it out.
Isaypoopythingsbecausemostofyouannoyme
TLDR: people outside city limits can pay a fee to be covered. Man didn't pay. When he offered, the rejected "people would only pay when need
IMakePretzelsFromScratch
Why not just make them pay a significantly larger fee if they have to do it on the spot?
ticktockbent
I wish the government applied this to taxes. Rich guy uses loopholes to get out of paying taxes? No services for you!
Squirrelprophecies
"No Pay, No Spray" sounds like a firefighter porno title.
StarlightSnep
At the very least, they should have saved the animals
Styrkyr
It was stated that it was in a rural area that wasn't covered by standard fire services. Most likely the structure was fully involved by - 2
Styrkyr
The time the fire department got there. The pets were probably already dead if the structure was fully involved.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
But they weren't playing Metro-Oh in real life
StarlightSnep
If only the fire department did speed runs, then they could have got the good ending
lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI
thats... fucked up... thats like a cop being like "oh.. you're being mugged - pity you didnt pay that fee eh?" like come on!
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
That's why government services are usually paid for by taxes and not supplementary fees.
KSVagrant
He was outside the city limits and doesnt pay local taxes to fund their fire dept. Dont pay the fee, dont get service. that shit ain't free.
lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI
ok whether or not is besides the point.. fucking tax him even more after but for fuck sake save the house and animals inside..
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Screw the house. Just like health insurance you need to pay all the time not just when you need it.
ilsalta
Taxes exist for a reason. Stupid libertarians think they deserve access to social benefits without contributing.
lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI
this has nothing to do with politics ... a mans house was burning the fuck down with his animals inside and they just went "fuck it."
DigitalMau
its like people yelling fuck the police and calling them pigs, yet still expecting them to save them when they're being robbed. 1/
DigitalMau
they arent machines, theyre people, and they get fed up with others treating them like shit
TGWeaver
No. It's not like that. Cops are here to protect and serve the populace, not just the people who they personally view as deserving it.
sonofthebat
Agreed, they’re suppose to be held to a higher standard but we keep making excuses for them. (Source, a cop.)
TGWeaver
"I'll pay it NOW!" "No, we don't accept that. Otherwise people would only pay when they needed us."
SweatshirtJones
lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI
shit happens he said he forgot thats fine and dandy they can fix that when the time comes but THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE WITH THINGS INSIDE.
TGWeaver
Not just things. Animals, too. Several pets died in the blaze.
TGWeaver
This turns my fuckin stomach, man. All this for love of money.
shadefang
Right, the fire department should be run with no income.
TGWeaver
I want you to stop for two seconds and realize you're defending people who willingly let a person's home, with animals inside, burn down.
Superfury1
Should of paid the $75 annual fee then
VergilVanTroff
Apparently this person doesn't want to pay for garbage removal either and burns it next to their house. Douchebaggery and stupidity in one.
Chadderz
No, it should be completely paid for by the fucking government. It's a public service.
TheClayKnight
And the government is paid for by taxes and fees, right?
KSVagrant
Dude lived outside the city limits and doesnt pay taxes to fund their fire dept. That's why there's a fee to pay.
UncleB0b
Hendlton
It can't be paid by the government when people dont want to pay taxes.Americans are afraid of taxes more than anything,other than communism.