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Lot of discussion about black people, LGBTQ+, and women, but I don't think enough has been said about the OG Americans
There are 567 tribes, including 229 Alaska Native communities, currently recognized by the federal government. The Bureau of Indian Affairs — the primary federal agency in charge of relations with indigenous communities — is also considering extending federal status to Native Hawaiians.
Only 51 percent of Native Americans in the class of 2010 graduated high school.
Suicide is the second most common cause of death for Native youth ages 15 to 24 — two and a half times the national rate for that age group. In February of 2015, following a rash of suicides, the Oglala Lakota Nation in South Dakota declared a state of emergency.
While the brutalization of black Americans at the hands of police, and their maltreatment within the criminal justice system, have garnered national headlines, similar injustices against Native Americans have gone largely unreported.
Native peoples are also disproportionately affected by mass incarceration. In states with significant Native populations, Native Americans are wildly overrepresented in the criminal justice system.
Native peoples suffer from high rates of poverty and unemployment. Seventeen percent of Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders and 27 percent of all self-identified Native Americans and Alaska Natives live in poverty, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.
Native American communities — and particularly Native women and children — suffer from an epidemic of violence. Native women are 3.5 times more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted in their life than women of other races. Twenty-two percent of Native children suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder — a rate of PTSD equal to that found among Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.
Native Americans, Alaska Natives and Native Hawaiians face massive disparities in health as compared to the general population, suffering from high rates of diabetes, obesity, substance abuse and HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.
Although Native Americans and Alaska Natives are eligible to receive health care through Indian Health Services, nearly one in three are uninsured.
Forty percent of Native Americans who live on reservations are in substandard housing. One-third of homes are overcrowded, and less than 16 percent have indoor plumbing. Housing on reservations is funded by the Department of Housing and Urban Development and administered and augmented by tribes, and has been historically underfunded, despite treaties and the trust responsibility of the federal government.
Native Americans and Alaska Natives are often unable to vote because there are no polling places anywhere near them. Some communities, such as the Duck Valley Reservation in Nevada and the Goshute Reservation in Utah, are located more than 100 miles from the nearest polling place.
There's a fine film called 'Wind River' that actually touches upon some of these issues. Props to the writer-director Taylor Sheridan for bringing some attention to them.
LiddellSuite
Unfortunately, it's the same here in Canada. The residential schools are just one of the horrible ways they were/are treated here.
AaroneousMaximus
Thanks for the share. Grew up around and with Natives. They lived hard lives. I will be checking out that movie ASAP
ikagawa
The show "Longmire" has many episodes that touch upon many of the problems the tribes face in Wyoming as well.
Deadpoolio7
Banshee has a lot of Natives stuff too and, while it’s not present day, Frontier is all about the Natives. Albeit in Canada.
ivegotaname
Also, it stars one of the agents from "The Matrix."
thedarkcanuck
Hector Lives
UncleTomahawk
The best revenge is a long and happy life. Lived on my Rez as a child. I’ll never go back. It be to dangerous with my wife and kids.
PersonalSleezus
Thank you for sharing
ambereyedragon
The 5 poorest counties in the US are on reservations. The top five are in SD where the Oglala live.
DulothX
Wind River is about as close to accurate as Inglorious Basterds, however... The 'Wind River' area has some serious problems, not of the(1/3)
DulothX
poverty sort, but the opposite. People get free housing and enough money to survive without doing anything, and the system for college (2/3)
DulothX
combines with that to encourage them to just sit there and do nothing all their lives but get drunk, eat puppies, and hurt each other.(3/3)
texassnake5
Many are victims of their own tribal leadership being corrupt. This is a serious problem.
PrefectDreyfus
I don't buy talk of "sacred land" from any tribe with a casino.
Amylol
It's sad that one of the best ways for a native Americans to succeed is to leave the reservation and move into US terrority. Unfortunately1/
Amylol
Most of the reservation are riddled with drug issues and abuse, both sexual and physical. It becomes extremely difficult due to close 2/
Amylol
Ties that that prevent from issues coming to light and not being swept under the rug due family relations. It obviously varies by the tribe.
Jlevender72
They have to move off those reservations or shut them down, all the government oversight and assistance isn’t actually helping them.
DirkNurple
Don’t get me started. “You’re Mexican. Mexicans aren’t native Americans. Y’all are.... well you’re, you know. Mexicans.” We didn’t cross/
DirkNurple
The border. It crossed us. It’s a pain in the ass distinction for natives of Texas territories.
smallwhale
Yeah. Lots of people say we’re mot “true” mexican/native/whatever. We were here first.
Sorryiwasntpayingattention
Sunseteclipse
They are a defeated people. They waged war against the settlers (rightfully so) with brutal tactics...and lost. (wipes hands)
MultiplePersonalitiesProfile
People don’t give a fuck about veterans either, unless it’s someone close. Curiously they feel the need to declare otherwise often.
TheDraperyFalls
From a metis dude, up in Canada (Cree Nations, Manitoba), have an upvote, nîtisân.
mmmmmmad
My biological family is Cree, from Manitoba in Canada as well. We actually just started to try and find them (my mom was adopted). Is it lik
mmmmmmad
e what this post mentions up there as well? I know pretty much nothing, but I’d really like to learn more through all of this!
bilbomilbotiko
best wishes to you
FreddyBarnsniffer
My tribe, TSI, is part of sea-Alaska, yet not recognized by the fed.. it’s all bs.
kingofcrows
The US doesn't recognize my tribe either. But I'm not 50% so no chance for benefits
FreddyBarnsniffer
They recognize to 1/8. Don’t lose hope, and always support your tribe
nuushba
Keep fighting for recognition. My tribe"s sister tribe folded into mine during the trail of tears then split off after the civil war. (1/2)
nuushba
(2/2) they finally got recognized in 60s. Despite founding a reservation without government help or protection
FreddyBarnsniffer
smallwhale
Mine isnt recognized either. They were hunted by Pancho Villa and fled to america where they hid their identity, so there’s no “proof” (1/2)
smallwhale
Despite the families that kept record. Theres not enough of us, and we’re spread all around. I’m labeled as something stupid like 1/32 (2/?)
smallwhale
Even though both of my parents are part of my tribe. We dont need recognition, but i wish i knew more about our culture and lineage (3/3)
DirkNurple
My mom did ancestry.com & it was so cool to see the stories of my grandparents legitimized. Gma was from Indigenous Texans and Spaniards, /
DirkNurple
G dad was from farther north in tx, but his mom would go to her ancestral village in Northern Mexico to have her kids. You could see on the/
tzahtman
I'm in Indiana and Miami here aren't federally recognized either.
Sutashi
My mom's tribe is Miami. My siblings & I registered under my dad's tribe though. Ottawa.
ImitationBrand
The cop series “Longmire” also touches on this subject quite often. A coworker of mine who is NA said the rez are like 3rd world countries
DaliaYCat
I don’t know how it works in other countries, but in Canada reservations do get quite a bit of funding, which they can use how they see fit.
DaliaYCat
A good bit of the problem is past treatment of indigenous people, however some of the blame is on the community itself. The money is not
DaliaYCat
always spent in a way that would benefit the community, rather a few individuals and their families.
Pr0faneTank
I fucking love that show. So glad Netflix saved it.
GigiDundas
Not all reservations are terrible, lumping all Native Americans into one category is part of the problem.
Chrispybobispy
Reservation are absolutly like 3rd world countrys. And the dispair is palatable when you drive through them.
pancreas
they don't have to live there. but a lot of them choose to, and also choose to be violent idiots that destroy govt handouts for insurance $$
WoodyGoodman
Username checks out, but cancerous.
Rockafella83
Imgur seem to think that Canadians are so nice, but as a society, we litterally closed our eyes on the cultural genocide of Native Community
Rockafella83
A folk in Qbc made a documentary called "The invisible nation" by Richard Desjardins which makes me feel ashamed to be Canadian
Anhigen
*actual genocide. I strongly suggest you look into the UN’s definitions of genocide so you can see for yourself.
imgonnahurtu
I'm a black guy. I live in an area of Arizona bordered by multiple reservations, with fairly large amounts of tribal people present. -1/4
imgonnahurtu
And it hurts me to say this, but I do not like native americans. Every single one I've encountered in the work place, and I wish I was - 2/4
imgonnahurtu
exaggerating, has been aggressive, negligent, lazy, disrespectful, and all around not the kind of person I want to employ. All of the - 3/4
imgonnahurtu
(honestly not all, but a LARGE majority) of natives I encounter outside of work are equally unpleasant. I actively dislike black - 4/4
FelixG
Same, when I worked at a hospital everyone was always annoyed when an indig came in because their families were always completely unpleasant
imgonnahurtu
"culture", despite being black myself. Unfortunately, it seems that natives have largely adopted it as well. 5/5
Anhigen
You “ACTIVELY dislike black ‘culture’, despite being black [yourself]”—was waiting for the shoe to drop. Yikes.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
I can't quote the numbers, but it is a similar sad story for indigenous Australians.
hencethequeef
There's a movement among aborigonal Australians to just stop reproducing to spare their children the suffering. Fucking heartbreaking.
MrPhukett
Sauce?
hencethequeef
I can't remember where I read it and the search terms aren't getting me anywhere, so take my word with a grain of salt I guess!
SomeCrazyNerd
Yes, high imprisonment, high poverty, high drug rate, etc.
RealCovert
Things that need to be fixed however very difficult to do so
SomeCrazyNerd
Baby steps.
turtletushie222
And Canadians
MysteryCan
A good movie to watch for them is 'rabbit proof fences'
dirttrackmtber
That was an awesome movie..! Check out the maori version tho ‘once were warriors’..
Winterous
Their culture was completely shattered, and they've more or less just been left alone with the remnants. It's no surprise they're 1/2
Winterous
try and assimilate them fully, but that would be a betrayal of Aboriginal culture and they'd probably reject attempts; and they can't 3/4
casbott
To be "dark" Oz Europeans did the best job of destroying a native peoples culture. Their entire society has PTSD, addiction and abuse issues
casbott
And severe health problems, some caused by diet - that sugar film has a bit where they show a township, diabetes is a major cause of death
Winterous
in such a shitty situation. They've got fragments of identity in a vaguely English-resembling society. What's the solution? We could 2/3
Winterous
just go back to their roots because there's too much damage already. It really feels like a hopeless situation. 4/4
indrindri
God you are so spot on with everything you said. It’s such a shitty and hopeless situation for so many
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Agreed.
DooptyFloop
I’d like to see Aus take a leaf out of NZ’s book and integrate indigenous culture more fully and earnestly. Less embarrassment, more love.
RealCovert
I think atm integration would be very difficult for us and im not sure if it will get easier honestly soon
RealCovert
Slowly getting better but yeah
lazerfrog
It kind of hurts as an Aussie to see how well Maori culture is integrated. Shows such a stark contrast.
Winterous
I believe there as far less, uh, genocide over there. That's probably made it a bit easier.
thevortexmaster
Are these American numbers? We have shitloads of first nations in Canada as well. My brother and sister are of Tlingit Nation
nuushba
US numbers. Those numbers include those of us that are partial blood that are registered with tribes. I'm of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma
thevortexmaster
Cool!
UhtredSonOfUhtredRagnarson
Halito a nakti! Nice to see some of the five reping on here!
nuushba
Always trying to represent. Never lived near the reservation so I didn't learn about tribe except in books and the few vacations in the area
UhtredSonOfUhtredRagnarson
Never lived on/near the home rez. But dad spent 10 years between Durant area/ Loupe AZ back in the late 40's growing up. Lots of stories.
kingofcrows
They seem to be US numbers. In is US you need to be 50% blood to get any benefits. Not so in Canada.
xBenoitBallsx
Quebec Cree here. It was explained to me that to be recognized by the Department at least one of your parents had to be 50% blood.
thevortexmaster
Ahh you're correct
HowManyTimesCanIChangeMyName
I'm in a federally recognized Tribe, and it's something like an eighth with us.
GhostofBillyMays
Not true btw, most nations require 16% or more and proof of ancestry
hencethequeef
My aunt has a conspiracy theory that the reason DNA tests "don't have enough samples" to show native ancestry on those tests is because 1/2
hencethequeef
the government doesn't want to pay for more peoples' college. My whole family would be eligible, but our paperwork is too iffy.
GhostofBillyMays
Actually if you look up DNA testing currently its extremely inaccurate unless you pay for an extremely expensive one. Gov doesn't pay for co
CaptainHyperbole
1/16 so 6.25% not 16%
GhostofBillyMays
Depends on tribe
MrTay
The programs and support are there my family ran them. The reason there isn’t plumbing and sub standard housing on the Sioux res is because1
Akaromi
Honestly looking for enlightenment - thank you. I care about native people but don't know how to help. Is it insulting to want to help?
KeatonJazz
Many don’t trust outside help due to decades of abuse.
Akaromi
That makes sense. :(
MrTay
“Sioux in South Dakota” I can only speak for that region it’s a big tribe.
grandpasonlylivingheir
Happened in N. Michigan too. New houses given to tribe members destroyed in less than 2 years. Looked like a ghetto.
Akaromi
Is it ignorant of me to think we should just assimilate the land and have some sort of consistent legal system? Res life seems so negative.
ITradeNewds
Pros and cons. Canada tried with the residential schools but that was a nightmare for the kids there. It's a very touchy subject...
Akaromi
Yes it's pretty touchy. Shame we can't find a solution for future generations. Tribes have been suffering enough.
MrTay
The houses that were built part of of a program had all the copper ripped out and sold for alcohol within a year. The problems that 2/
TehBox0rz
So put in ABS instead of copper
grandpasonlylivingheir
It's deeper than that. There's no self worth, no ambition, no drive to improve.
Boshanks
All the native Americans around me get money from their tribe via the casino. They have a really bad meth/heroine/drinking problem.
MrTay
Native Americans face are complex and regional. Varying tribe to tribe and often are cultural. They are sovereign self governed and policed3
MrTay
In general the tribes that have had the most difficulty adjusting were historically raiders. For example in rapid city the city has one 4/
MrTay
Of the lowest rates of domestic violence including the reservation it has the highest. We can’t fix that only the tribe has jurisdiction.
scribetree
The lack of polling places is the responsibility of the federal government. It’s designed to repress their voting ability.
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
In my work we did a large tract of homes on a local reservation. Not one is occupied today, and anything recyclable has been stripped out.
Amylol
You're probably one of the people who truly understand. The states/federal govt has little affect on it. It comes down to the local level.
Samsquantch82
I'm Native myself but grew up white. Posts like this make me realize how much of my culture I am unfamiliar with. I need to do better.
Quetzal4U
I learned about indigenous culture in order to teach kids. There’s much to admire. Learn about it and get in touch with elders. No regrets.
abcismasta
Your culture is not being oppressed, as someone who grew up on a reservation, the people just don't care enough to take care of themselves.
bilbomilbotiko
It's never too late!
georgecostanzalatexsalesman
Not meaning this in an offensive way at all but what does “native but grew up white” mean?
Lostchild12
1/2 Are you familiar with the term "Oreo" for blacks? Grew up away from Native Americans & their culture & among white culture. Some do
Lostchild12
2/2 become successful & move near their jobs isolating themselves from their brethren.
Samsquantch82
I'm adopted, and my biological father is Native.
kimmie71490
Could be like me...my mom is native but was raised by a white relative...but I’ve been exposed to the culture
georgecostanzalatexsalesman
Thanks
imyellinkimberr
My sister and I are Mexican. Grandma raised her. She speaks Spanish/has their culture. Father raised me in the “wonderbread” fam (says her).
BaddieMaxter
Same experience here. Proud of my heritage, but you wouldn’t know it by looking at me. Folks assume I’m Greek or something.
2CraZyXTiRed98
Equivalent to being called an "Apple"
W0LFPAW
Same here. Half Native here but adopted into a white family. I've been trying to learn everything on my own which gets confusing
EmotionallyMagnificient
Dude, people don't care about anyone or anything that doesn't DIRECTLY affect them.
patrickaumiller88
That may be result of people minding their own and not concluding other people's messages based upon their own perspective based assumptions
patrickaumiller88
I try to not meddle in things that don't affect me because it's not any of my business.
Kleinstlebewesen
sad but true
tractorharvester
Not really sad mate, people have their own shit to be dealing with.
SomeCrazyNerd
Sad fact, people try to be good, to be clear, but we do tend to biased and self-involved about it.
yoozernaiym
majority of people maybe, but not all people... some people do have empathy, believe it or not
SomeCrazyNerd
I think majority of people are both decent and flawed.
Cheomesh
I don't know that this is accurate.I mean the whole gay marriage debate - it being legal wouldn't directly affect anyone in the Nay, really.
WeAreJustDustInTheWind
Pretty true now a days
bilbomilbotiko
The longer I've been living, the more I've realized this to be true more often than not, even if I don't want to admit it
VinerialBlumpkin11
Well just remember when you see political advocacy to help _______ people. 9 times out of 10 it's people just being selfish.
Jagerbeast
Its very sad honestly
WillAWillowEverWalllow
That’s not true. I’m so sick of this kind of pessimism. If you view the world through the lens of negativity that’s all you will see.
TakeTheStairs
I agree. and this trope gets repeated so often on imgur is driving me away. they talk about social media echo chambers, here its all shit.
SomeCrazyNerd
It's not entirely true, of course. People are plenty capable of all sorts of good. But it is often limited by bias and self-involvement.
WillAWillowEverWalllow
I’m aware that people often have selfish motives, I just get tired of people making comments like this in an absolute sense.
FilthyRapscallions
True in the sense you conveyed, but not true in other aspects. Gay rights, abortion, these things don’t affect most of the loudest opponents
Paintmanusa
It affects us when it coursens the culture. It affects us with attacks on religious liberties. I say Live and Let Live.
FilthyRapscallions
I won’t attack your religious liberties if you don’t cram them down my throat.
kamenhokage
The discussion and demonization of those things benefits their opponents though. It's less about the principle and more about the PR.
R0b0Panda
We had residential schools in Canada that were run by the Catholic Church. Last one closed in 1996
twozerooz
To be fair, only a handful of schools had the vast majority of abuse. Most were fine, some were horror houses.
narcissisthis
My grandparents and their siblings were snatched from their parents and put into residential schools. None of them knew English beforehand.
R0b0Panda
parents who did not "enroll" their children in these school would be put in jail and/or given a fine
Quetzal4U
Lfoster system is the new residential schools. Indigenous kids get placed in white homes. Native mothers are more likely to get kids taken
twozerooz
Not quite the same thing. Aboriginals currently have a huge drug epidemic, which is the cause of the increased foster rate
honkahonka82
I knew nothing about residential schools until I listened to a great podcast called Missing & Murdered. I learned so much. So tragic.
R0b0Panda
have you heard of "Starlight tours"?https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/new-light-on-saskatoons-starlight-tours/
honkahonka82
Definitely not. So sad. How can people be so cruel? I just can’t imagine.
DuskSteel
My parents and older brother attended those schools. The stories they tell are really fucked.
xBenoitBallsx
My mum was given a number. They’d beat you if you spoke your own language. From Quebec taken to Sault Ste Marie.
R0b0Panda
i'm sorry she had to go through that.It's obvious there is some intergenerational trauma for kids of people who went to residential schools
hencethequeef
My great-grandparents went through them, raised their kids to hate themselves, who then tortured their own kids. It trickles down the line.
R0b0Panda
thank you for sharing that. I can't even imagine. it must have been a very difficult childhood.
hencethequeef
Thankfully, it was mostly getting better by my generation. Only one of my dad's siblings was abusive. It's literally generations of healing.
DuckyBird101
Not always my great-grandparents didn't abuse their kids they lived off the rez my grandad & his brothers went to school with white kids in
DuckyBird101
a oneroom schoolhouse small Saskatchewan town school,church, generalstore/post office this was done to keep the kids out of residential
DuckyBird101
schools to spare them what their parents went through.
GenshiV
Wind River was amazing. You're dead on about Native Americans - it's a population that's largely ignored in discussion about 'isms.
DulothX
So long as you accept that it has no connection with reality, and doesn't really have a place in this sort of talk, sure.
emtionallyautistic
Fantastic film. I’m not sure if under appreciated or not but I really enjoyed it
GenshiV
Grossed $47m on $11m budget, so appreciated but not as much as I would have expected given it had Hawkeye & Scarlet witch!
DoNotTakeSeriousPls
Hawkeye plays less fit Hawkeye in this
GenshiV
But still just as dreamy, so he's got that going for him. My wife would leave me for him in a second, and I'd support her in doing so!
Jusmar
They're too niche a population to play identity politics, not worth pandering to for votes.
TheBestNamesAreTaken
What votes? OP said most don't vote b/c lack access. I was under impression most couldn't b/c treaty barred...
maninthedarkness
Nationally, yes. But they are paid attention to in my state, as I am sure the same goes for many other states. It should be a bigger deal, >
maninthedarkness
> but they aren't being completely ignored.
Zigor22
Fuck isms. Can we just go back to not caring about shit? We don’t need a fiasco for every classification of person.
GenshiV
I'm 1000% on board for that if we can stop discriminating against people on the basis of race, gender, genetics, religion, etc etc.
Zigor22
Yeah, but you can’t change people’s minds through force or “social stoning”. Discrimination is as widespread as it is because most of/
Zigor22
the discrimination is situations taken way out of context. Most of it is implied by those who want divide. People can’t state a viewpoint/
Zigor22
anymore without having to go down a checklist of what their race, gender, religion, etc is as if that is what their audience should focus on
SmergBlaerghl
I'd recommend the podcast Thunder Bay, I found it interesting. Would like to hear a Canadian's thoughts on it...
hijinxking
Nobody cares about anyone. No one should get special treatment.
ExcessiveDabbage
I live in the south and Native American History is a class we have to take
RDRD
I've done work on the Wind River reservation back in 2015. It's scary how accurate it was.
TheOneWhoWasLeft
Is it pronounced "wind" or "wind"?
Ryebread91
What’s Hawkeye wearing on his chest?
AFutileGesture
It was? Why isn't it anymore?
nativeamerican1
bomdroppinfoo
Silly Italian fella.
nativeamerican1
I know boo. Doesn’t matter to me
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
I thought that movie was one of the most sexist I've ever seen. SO tired of the dumb girl "saved" trope
mikeatike
Jeremy Renner and Elizabeth Olsen... You have my attention.
meta666
And Jon bernthal
secretdpp
It's a hard movie to watch. Well done and unflinching in it's portrayal of a lot of things. The climax is brutally gut wrenching
AmounRah
Here you go. A live example of an issue being brought up, and the only focus is "ooooo actors"
GenshiV
Nothing wrong with a few well known people bringing attention to an important story like this. How else do you get folks' attention?
SerDire
That standoff was one of the best scenes I’ve ever seen. “Why are you flanking me?”
hairytrigga
Fuck you let's go!
secretdpp
She ran six miles
hurtubis
I'm still a little messed up from that fact. Truly horrible
StillNotYouTube
I thought it was awesome except for people getting blown back 10 feet when they got shot.
hairytrigga
.45 strong
DoNotTakeSeriousPls
Native Americanism doesn’t roll off the tongue as easy
jeeps005
that makes no sense
GenshiV
That is a very fair point. I hadn't considered that.
Memongo808
It's easier than indigenous peoples of the americas
thatoneguyfromthatonethingthatdidthatstuff
This countries dirty secret.
mrdoublejr1360
It's not really much of a secret
StrangerNum1
We just don't like the ugly side of ourselves
thatoneguyfromthatonethingthatdidthatstuff
Not really taught in schools. Very little news coverage too.
Jusmar
No but it makes it sound worse than it is
ValiantlyFlailing
moving to Canada has been really interesting because it's all about natives up here - the open racism is sometimes shocking
alleygatorMobScene
Unpopular opinion here: most natives hate other natives and the "reason" they aren't included in the protests for equality today is 1/2
alleygatorMobScene
Because they don't actually care or want a different lifestyle. 2/2
SteveHarringtonBabysittingServices
It’s INSANE. I agree with you. It’s like people completely ignore our history of genocide.
noodles7329
Right? I’ve just moved and expressed interest in learning about First Nations culture and people scoff at me
SteveHarringtonBabysittingServices
People are horrible.
GenshiV
I don't have a kid, but do you sit dogs as well? You seem like a stand up guy...
SteveHarringtonBabysittingServices
Haha sure. I’ll watch your pet rock, even.
Herbaria
Wait, the racism is open in Canada? I'm disappointed... but I'm always disappointed with racism and bigotry generally :(
GenshiV
There's a long history of oppression of First Nations people. It's moving in the right direction, but 'isms are always a tough topic.
Wesclies
Northern Canadian here. It's a hard thing 'cause the stereotypes are pretty real. I've been blockaded and threatened a few times at work 1/?
Wesclies
But at the same time it's pretty clear that most are decent people, and some of the coolest people I've met have been first Nations. 2/?
Wesclies
It's mostly a matter of trying to separate out the shitty situations from the great people who do their jobs and treat people well. 3/4
ishkaga
Depends on where you go. But yeah, it can be pretty bad. Never really knew till I dated a native girl
sheslikeheroin
There are those that are rather intolerant and those that aren't. I've met a few who people who are insanely offensed by black jokes but 1
Herbaria
Actually I know from my podcasts that crimes against First Nations people in North America are scandalously under investigated. Makes sense
sheslikeheroin
2 no issue calling an indigenous woman a "squaw", native jokes seem to get pass more often which is sad. There are many people who don't
sheslikeheroin
3 agree with that behaviour atleast though. Indigenous leaders and the issues they're representing seem to be getting more media time which
gurglingsteak
They are a proud people that very rarely whine and complain. In our civilization, “squeaky wheel gets the grease.”
TwoToneeRebel
you're 100% correct. people like to generalize a lot. There are some that complain but they're typically the loudest. Most remain quiet.
Keramane
Come to NW Ontario. These wheels squeak plenty and no amount of grease washes away blood from either side.
MrHaveANiceDay
I mean they had those protests over the Dakota pipeline: they were hosed in freezing temps. More like white wheels get the grease.
DirkNurple
I cannot say that without a thick Russian/ east European accent. Have you ever played baldurs gate?
Alkuam2
"Shkveaky wheel gets da kick!"
DirkNurple
WouldRatherDrive
I was going to say that. They don’t make as much noise as the rest of the yellers.
OtterlyMagnificent
They complain QUIETLY...
Jeromewaffles
The second mouse gets the cheese
amglasgow
Not really. They complain plenty, but people find them easy to ignore, sadly.
Kilsta
To be paid attention to, you have to be enough to be pandered to. Sadly.
shoutuckerfatheroftheyear
My guess is they are a group that is hard to monetize. Its a bleak way to view it but few organizations champion causes with low ROI.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
You’re going to waste a lot of your life if you’re waiting for other people to solve your problems. May not be fair but that’s reality.
pacobedejo
What is their proposed solution to their problems?
amglasgow
Stop killing them, stop locking them up, stop taking their land, stop taking natural resources from their land, stop preventing them 1/4
amglasgow
actively harming them, they can start considering solving their own problems. We're still the invaders to them, for good reason. 4/4
amglasgow
the Indian Health System, stop preventing them from legally owning their land, stop making it impossible for them to vote. Once we stop 3/4
amglasgow
from enforcing laws on their land, stop letting white people rape and brutalize them, stop underfunding their schools, stop underfunding 2/4
EmotionallyMagnificient
..... what? You believe that?
AliBarber
Do you not? Kinda obvious that it's the case.
whatwhatwhonow
Is it that Native Americans don't advocate for their issues, or that you personally don't hear about it?
EmotionallyMagnificient
I'm referring to the whole "they don't complain" culture thing. That's a hilarious stereotype that holds 0 water
spookyghost13
Neither does Flint Michigan, but that's also out of the news cycle now.
EmotionallyMagnificient
Changing the subject... nm you're not worth the energy
spookyghost13
To be completely transparent, I am native.
Imustupvotealltacos
Each time I mention Native Americans on here I get downvoted to hell, regardless of context
Imustupvotealltacos
"regardless of context" thanks for proving my point, guys
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
People don't like to be reminded of an ongoing slow genocide started by their ancestors.
Alkuam2
The mods are a joke.
evil66gurl
Same
Galdrack
Lot of americans on this site refuse to acknowledge the Native American genocides.
DuckyBird101
I have indigenous heritage but my grandparents left their culture behind to keep their kids out of rez schools.My grandad wasn't taught &
DuckyBird101
nor was my mom I wanted to learn but when I took native studies in high school I was the only white looking kid in the class & got bullied
DuckyBird101
I dropped the class. I have tried asking questions in a effort to understand but usually get my head bitten off & told I don't understand
DuckyBird101
So I've had to try leaning on my own.
ilhares
And I saw it happening again, so I upped you, because fuck those people. The gov't made a treaty with the first people and violated it.
narcissisthis
There are many broken treaties.
Imustupvotealltacos
Yep. "Regardless of context" they're just proving my point
CreatureFromtheBlackLegume
Little known fact, GB was like "don't move onto their land" colonies were like "fuck you", then they dumped tea into the harbor and that's 1
CreatureFromtheBlackLegume
What we remember because history is written by the winners 2/2
GhostofBillyMays
As a native American I can confirm, everyone thinks they are in this group and so it goes ignored.
creechville
My husband is 50% black foot. But i tell you he looks 10000%
hardboiledfrog
The U.S. broke every single treaty they had with Native Americans
hardboiledfrog
* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_treaties#U.S.%E2%80%93Native_American_treaties
bobsvagenecatsdogsredheadscosplaypuffins
As a white person, I feel deeply ashamed.
Beepbopbadop
We should.
cancerriddenlung
"But I'm 1/16th Cherokee!" - basic white girl
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
I am in this group and I ignore it.
PoundSandREMF
No you are an indigenous people, you are the first to inhabit America. I was born here and am native.
therealjosh4fun
As a native American, people think I'm mixed white and black or Mexican
AngryDrBanner
The majority of us Mexicans hail from the indigenous people of central America. So it makes sense how there are similarities in appearance.
therealjosh4fun
That's cool to know. Thanks for the info!
AngryDrBanner
Yeah bro! Originally they called Mexicans, Mestizos. Which means mixed race. Primarily of Spanish and the natives! But the amount of
AngryDrBanner
Native American genes in a modern day Mexican can range from from anywhere from slim to high 90s!
Narcqueb9
I am a Mohawk woman, and the coordinator of the FNMI division at our school district. You’d be surprised how much no one knows.
Keairan
All my tiny bit of 1st Nation blood means is that I probably care a little bit more than the average person for 1st Nation problems.
HowManyTimesCanIChangeMyName
A tiny bit often just gives white people justification for racism. "I don't mind [racist thing] and I'm part Indian!"
Keairan
True. But it can also mean that when a vote comes up that affects them, it changes for the positive. Not often, but it can.
pookieeatworld
I did get a kick out of the Native American politician who was confronted by Trump supporters telling him to go back home. He turned around~
pookieeatworld
and just said, "My people are indigenous to these lands," and walked away.
pookieeatworld
Not exactly as I remembered, but the story checks out: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-supporters-navajo-legislator-legal/
xBenoitBallsx
So rock n roll that they took Alcatraz and occupied it. Said like “there is no running water or electricity. Like a Rez.”
HowManyTimesCanIChangeMyName
Took it back, as was promised to us. But of course, contracts with Natives means dog shit to the US government.
Shawnthegirl
I have been told my whole life I'm part Cherokee. Pretty common tribe. Did a DNA thingy, nope! Not even a little bit Native
GhostofBillyMays
THIS! very common
dylanamanhouilhan
I just assumed it was the segregation that kept itnout of sight and out of mind except for the occasional guilt piece, at least in Canada
PeteButtigieg
In the US we tried to assimilate and since they wouldn't we gave them their own barren land to do what they pleased on.
Quetzal4U
Canadian gov wanted to kill Indigenous culture. I wish I could explain in short but the phrase “killing the Indian in the child” was used.
Emperorkrulos
The RCMP actually rounded up tens of thousands of sled dogs in the north and euthanized them to force them to be more sedentary.
Spookadook
Does it bother you when you hear the stuff about Elizabeth Warren? Honest question, not trying to stir the pot
HowManyTimesCanIChangeMyName
Leftist Native here, and she pisses me off. Didn't apologize until she was going to run for president, clearly just a PR move.
sciencebasedlifeform
So who is banking with all the casinos? Honest question...
GhostofBillyMays
Only a few tribes, usually you'll need to live on a crap reservation to get the $$$
TheChandrian
I’m 25% Lumbee, but live on the other side of the country. I’d love to be more involved in tribal events.
TheBestNamesAreTaken
I'm from NC, family in Lumberton, you're probably better off where you are. Robeson county is a shit hope.
TheChandrian
I know. My grandmother left in the 40’s and moved to IN to become a teacher. I moved to OR. I don’t want to live in Robeson County, 1/2
TheChandrian
But I would love to feel apart of my heritage. My mother recently attended a pow wow and had a blast.
TheWonderfulWorldOfDickButt
My mom told me I have a little native blood. If that's true, fuck calling myself "Native American." I do not struggle like natives do.
TheWonderfulWorldOfDickButt
Add on; I hate the word "Native." It's used so much it has lost any real meaning. Everyone with 1/107th blood calls themselves "native."
HilariousPepperoni
As a Navajo, I prefer being called Native versus Indian.
GhostofBillyMays
Absolutely. How do you feel.about redskin?
HilariousPepperoni
I embrace it. But probably because my best friend who is a redneck guy (we’re in AZ) calls me redskin all the time. He loves to tease me (1)
Daphault1
As an Italian,why is your user name appropriating my culture? ;) I really want to learn Navajo before I die;my way to honor the code talkers
AlCoolAJ
Where I'm from the word "Indian" is embraced (Even the word "Injun"). Even our status cards are "Indian Status". It's just a general term.
alltheloliscallmesenpai
So, I'm only 1/32 Chickasaw and I don't even know where to start learning about my tribe. My great grandmother (irish/chickasaw) 1
alltheloliscallmesenpai
Only ever told my grandmother the story of how her parents met. She never knew any other information, likely because her father 2
alltheloliscallmesenpai
Chose to assimilate in order to marry her mother (this is what she always said). I'm not entirely sure of his standing within his tribe 3
alltheloliscallmesenpai
Or even which tribe was his, or whether anyone survived the Trail. I don't even know his given or chosen name off the top of my head. 4
alltheloliscallmesenpai
I honestly would love to know more, but I've got nowhere to start. It sucks.
DoomedAchilles
The Chickasaw are one of the most accessible tribes. I am also part Chickasaw. They have tremendous benefits if you’re an enrolled member.
GhostofBillyMays
Yeah its gorgeous, there's a lot of cool tribal centers and museums in OK.... I guess where no one who doesn't know will see them lol
DoomedAchilles
They have a large cultural center in Oklahoma. If you are not an enrolled member you should trace your ancestry back through the Dawes roll
DoomedAchilles
Or try contacting them as well. They send out a paper every month as well for tribal members no matter where you live in the US.
kriositivity
It's about the same in Canada. Am I native American or native Canadian?
HowManyTimesCanIChangeMyName
Some of our Nations were split up by the colonizers, so I go with "Native American" for the continent, or simply "Native," "Indigenous," etc
primadonna13
They call indigenous people in Canada First Nations.
DuckyBird101
In Winnipeg MB Canada in recent years indigenous is the turn that is used.
kmikl
Depends, most that I know of don't really care, just don't use "Indian." Natives/aboriginal/First Nations.. whatever.
LurkerMcLurkface
So, you are native American. I'm European. How does it feel for you when descendants of the pioneers identify as nativ Americans? 1/2
GhostofBillyMays
Half my family were early settlers, I think of then as original Americans just not native obviously. My tribe Is the Catawba.
GhostofBillyMays
I find it frustrating because natives have it very well noticed in society here, look at Redskins team and Cleveland Indians for examples
FiguredOutHowToChangeMyUsername
Mayflower descendent here. I do NOT identify as native. I simply say my family has been here for over 300 years.
LurkerMcLurkface
Because my reaction to that is "stfu, you're Europeans who went to America as refugees, you aren't nativ to that land"
MikeWay
When in Taos, all I saw was “Indian” shops etc. like it’s whatever you’re used to calling yourselves.
blakeatwork
Go back far enough, and none of us are native to anywhere in North America.
FiguredOutHowToChangeMyUsername
Or native to Europe or Asia
blakeatwork
Exactly.
MikeWay
I’m a native African?? Knew it
blakeatwork
Enjoy the bigger penis ;)
zefferoni
My step grandma is Creek. She described all the white people with like 1/32 Native American blood as being from the Nosebleed Tribe
TinFoilKat
taciturnpachyderm
It's super awkward when ppl try to make fun of her and just end up being straight up racist instead.
TinFoilKat
blainetog
I'm 1/32nd Cherokee but "Nosebleed Tribe" is way better. (For reals though, I would never identify as Native American. I'm hella white.)
curolina
Fuck yeah! I'm 1/4 Cherokee and I'm assumed to be white. It's crazy how weird some people are about race.
zefferoni
"If they have a nosebleed, all their Indian blood will leak out."
curolina
I'm 1/4 Cherokee. My grandmother is fresh off the reservation. I'd be embarrassed to take a minority scholarship. Fuck Elizabeth Warren
zefferoni
I like her policies but that claim was embarrassing as fuck.
atomiccheesegod
The tripling down on it is what turned me off from her, then she denied it and all of the leaked records came out
jawsoshuell
I love that, as someone from a family of Nosebleeds. My grandfather's grandmother was Cherokee, but the family acts as if there's way more.
zefferoni
Right? Like... I'm related to some Creek and Cherokee but I'd never claim to be NA, because I'm not part of that culture at all.
meta666
Well she is your step grandma so I doubt you inherited anything from her.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
I like it.
atomiccheesegod
The Elizabeth Warren tribe
GhostofBillyMays
Amazing. Accurate. If you're not on a tribal enrollment or have a direct lineage it's not real. "Blackfoot," "grandma was an injun princess"
Evenlymade
It's real, but if they don't accept responsibility to help, they shouldn't call on it like it's some kind of badge of honor.
Taxicat
There’s also a difference between having ancestry of a certain group vs actually being an active participant in that group. 1/
Taxicat
One can have Native American ancestry, but that doesn’t guarantee that individual is Native American themselves, especially if 2/
Taxicat
that ancestry is literally the only connection they have to that culture. 3/
GigiDundas
Well there's no such thing as a princess in any native cultures anyway so if they say that slap them.
KinetoPlay
Or politely inform them of the truth.
GigiDundas
I like violence personally but you do you boo.
rococosbasilisk
So I went out with a girl who was a card carrying member of a Native American tribe (I’m drawing a blank on which) but is blonde hair blue 1
rococosbasilisk
Eyed and less ‘native American’ than me. It functioned pretty much to help with admissions and get her scholarships (by her own admission) 2
rococosbasilisk
So I don’t know know how much tribal enrollment should count I guess is what I’m saying
hencethequeef
I'm torn on this. In Australia, the last pureblood aborigone died decades ago, and the dilution of native bloodlines was an intentional 1/?
zefferoni
I agree and relate in a way. Most of my ancestors were Irish and came to the US during An Gorta Mór. My family has passed down a lot of
zefferoni
Irish cultural shit. I can in no way call myself Irish, but I understand a lot of the historical culture and history.
zefferoni
I also have a little bit of Creek and Cherokee in me, enough to enroll I believe, but I refuse to do it because I'm not familiar with the
hencethequeef
genocidal policy. Same in Canada. So if you scoff at people for being of a diluted bloodline, you're sort of letting genocide win. So in 2/?
hencethequeef
Australia, their policy is usually that if you have some native blood, educate yourself on native causes, and advocate for the community 3/4
Meepinator524
But in America tribes have to register their people based on blood quantum. If you don’t have a certain percent you aren’t native 1/2
Meepinator524
This is specifically meant so that the government of old could breed out the “merciless Indian savage” and assimilate them. 2/3
Meepinator524
It also means that you don’t get tribe benefits (like the housing subsidies and tribe oriented healthcare) if they’re given to your tribe
hencethequeef
you're accepted in the native community. But absolutely fuck people that claim lineage but don't advocate for native rights. 4/4
AgamemnonsMemes
One problem. Is that native Australians always lose the genetic lotto. They will always throw white 1/
AgamemnonsMemes
So every time they mix they loose out and can very quickly get 'bred out'
KittyEmpress
I think it also, at least from anecdotal experiences, has to do with a misguided perception that all native tribes are rich and successful
Compound515
As a Canadian, I think the perception up here is the opposite. Most of the reservations up here look run down and falling apart
KittyEmpress
Off the back of things like gambling and casinos. Whenever native American issues come up I see people asking 2hy they dont just open one
kookyabird
Yeah, or people complain about them not paying taxes, clearly that means they're all super rich.
HowManyTimesCanIChangeMyName
Native Alaskan, and I most certainly pay taxes. Still poor
mindstorm8191
Now that I think about it, those casinos aren't built there so white ppl will play, but to get Native Americans to play (since they do)
KittyEmpress
People don't understand that it's a small minority who own, operate, and have success with these things. They think every native American
KittyEmpress
Is hella rich
DulothX
Each tribe handles its finances differently. The tribes around Wind River are fairly well off, and each member gets enough cash to live(1/X)
GigiDundas
In reality the wealthy native myth stems from one group that is not even a cohesive tribe called Seminoles. There's only a couple thousand.