Jun 30, 2022 12:32 PM
PiercedViking
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DrSchlepenstein
Like I would even know if I was. Plus my parents would have been better off financially at least.
FlaminkoFactor
Fewer humans is better for the world, including existing humans
Absent
*I* was formed by personal experience and knowledge, not birth.
chickensareawesome
I am a fan of this kind of dark humor. But for real, suicides are going to skyrocket. Fuck this country sucks.
BestJackalope
My grandma asked my mom if she wanted to abort when she was pregs with me cause I was put of wedlock, mom was young, etc. Mom got mad 1/
2/ and told me this after I expressed outrage over Roe. Tried to lord it over me. Told her she should've done it. She would've been happier.
She wouldn't have been trapped in a loveless marriage for 24 years, pumping out 4 more kids just as miserable as me cause we saw through it.
Youhavinagiraffe
Loads of people who have abortions have children later in their own time. So their kids wouldn't exist if they hadn't had an abortion
trippingthelightfantastic
Thekindofkindlyman
Dark humor is like an aborted fetus. Never gets old.
Chimichanga007
Tis a mercy. Fuck this world they built.
whydidistoplurkingafterallthistime
Them grippy socks comfy as hell tho
ENCHANTMEN
You may as well ask "what if a butterfly flapped its wings and a different sperm cell made it"
ThisIsSteel
For reference, my mom tried to abort me and was stopped. While that is agonizing for me to deal with, I am still pro choice.
DonWrigley
If I had been aborted, I wouldn’t know….
Vengeraxe
"points to scar on forehead" who said she didn't try?
tounushi
"What if..." Imma stop you right there. I'm a determinist. Alternate history what ifs are irrelevant precisely because they didn't happen.
MadCat221
Then I wouldn't care because I wouldn't exist.
IMainReinhardt
"What if you got aborted?' Well motherfucker, I wouldn't have to work 50 hours a week in a job I hate to afford not starving to death.
WhyWeDoThis
My mom didn't as she wanted me, but dude your mom should regreat having you as she would not have imagined you will turn out to be a stooge.
L1NS4S4URUS
LOL I want someone to ask me this, cause I wanna give a similar answer, just to see the reaction.
capughe
Well I wouldn't have any feelings about it being nonexistent
HeirElfSquire
So many kids should have been aborted... unpopular opinion.
ProppaGanda
For example me. This cursed existence.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I am willing to bet anyone can name 100+ people that, if they had been aborted, the world would be demonstrably better
Jimmytheeel
Not that unpopular
LCMcG
People worry about me when I say my mom's life would probably have been much better if she hadn't had me. I get it, but chill.
rhmrcScifiBandit
Unpopular? No. Unspoken, sure
OMG what will the fascist white nationalists-- err, I mean Christians--think of this shocking declaration??
Lurkerdraegon
Yes, specially those who right now r suffering with junkie/ abusive/ neglecting/ absent/ rapey/ poor, parents/ family/ system and sick.
magicdykexxl
Kyle Shittenhouse
DarkwingDuc
Violent crime dropped drastically in the early 90s, which just happens to be 17 years after Roe v. Wade.... (1/2)
NotABadLookingNarcissist
I remember hearing that theory in freakonomics. Pretty compelling. It also correlates with removing lead from gasoline. Maybe both-and?
(2/2) https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/crime-rate-statistics
Sheldonian
Starting from the biggest baby of them all. In fact we should still abort him
HellIsRoundTheCorner
I suggest D&C
Renza0
legalize 231st trimester abortions
painstream
300+th term abortion?
SonOfLucifer
228th term, I believe...
UnitConversionBotButTerrible
Get Cartmans mom on the job.
PieAndPunch
I wish I was aborted but apparently "I'm here on purpose". My parents have since apologized
ChubbyPikablue
According to the Catholic Church my mom attended as a kid, you're not responsible for your own sins until you're an adult*. (1/?)
So if the embryo/fetus has a soul, they get a free ride to heaven without having to suffer the BS of life on Earth. If it does not (2/?)
have a soul it won't know it ever existed. (*idk if the phrasing is "adult" or "18") (3/3)
DoctorCaptainman
My friend doesn't get it. Can someone please explain?
Blackrain39
So a miqo'te is the name the catgirl race in the mmorpg Final Fantasy 14, which has a free trial that includes the award winning expansion h
AnnieMoosie
Thanks, my friend didn’t get it either!
Deleteded
They tried to commit suicide and got committed to a mental health facility which gives the grippy socks.
My friend says "DAMN" and "thank you"
Tell your friend I said you're welcome. Happy I could help.
Dasnekones
On a side note, I have only heard good things regarding those socks.
zorlonjones
Wow, that's dark. Wow.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Painfully true though. Kids always sense when they're seen as a burden rather than being wholeheartedly wanted & loved. Depression and ...
mental illness in general are statistically much higher among the unplanned. Which is why I consider myself pro-abortion,not just pro-choice
I'm still pro-choice too. But I also think unless a pregnancy is 100% planned & desired, abortion is always the best possible outcome.
TheBigBadBonerBiter
"What if you were aborted" is a powerless argument in the face of millennials who crave non-existance.
ukalliq
Millennials who think they invented craving non-existence, you mean.
EniChaos
"you would still be wrong. i just wouldn't be here telling you."
kozmo403
Here's the thing, that clump of cells isn't gonna know. It's also not anybodies God damned business what medical procedures you get.
SeanBeanJovi
Seriously. How do you kill that which has not lived?
Lamarzipan
Myramills
https://youtu.be/giZN0ZuDERY Allen Watts on death.
QT3pt141592653
Bible even says life begins at BIRTH. Their whole argument is flawed. I was talking to my dad yesterday (conservative Christian) and he >
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God formed man from the dust, which means the body comes first. But Adam didn't become "alive" until God breathed into him. Aka, the breath>
braveboy510
The 8mo isn’t ever going to know that its parent tried to shake it to death, either.
porcubot
You don't have to kill it. You can surrender it to the state. Bodily autonomy means that a fetus does not get to live off your body.
You do understand how that's different, right? Cause you need to.
WaveMotionGum
A zygote with 32 cells is about the size of a poppy seed. You could hold 100k in the palm of your hand easily. They are nothing like an 8mo
alex5775
The difference is that 8mo old can feel pain and fear it is a human. A fetus is only a potential human just like every sperm and egg cell
As "what if you're parents never got together?" Well, I wouldn't be around to care.
The unstated bit is that any argument valuing "potential life" is an argument against contraception, heck even an argument against celibacy.
DocWats
Shit even jerking off is sending the swimmers to be interred in a cotton casket
Precisely.
Zerubbabel
So, if you sneak up on it, it's fine?
No, you would be ending a human consciousness something a fetus does not have
That's difficult to prove.
What do you think of studies claiming pain can be felt in fetuses by end of trimester 2? Many non-human animals can also feel pain + fear.
Can you link me to these studies. And you're being needlessly pendantic with that second point, you know damn well what I meant
Here’s an article which references a few. Looks like some sources here claim 27 to 30 weeks is the start time for pain, rather than (1/2)
FloodingWaters
I think that pain is infinitesimally small compared to the brutal savagery of force pregnancy and all thebpain it causes. If you had an
ounce of ethics, you'd know that you cannot harm another to save a life, regardless. The mother's wellbeing has primacy in all matters
mistermixelpix
"What if you got aborted?" Fuck man I wasn't alive for the first few billion years of the universe so... it'd be like that.
kaoticgirl
Dawg, I was in my late 30's before I found out I was a *wanted* child.
Chronomechanist
"Well, I wouldn't be here to be having this conversation with you, so I guess I could consider that a win."
PamelaBeeslyHalpert
If my parents aborted me I would have had a better life
Yeah that line is flawed because it can only be viewed through hindsight, abortions are viewed in the present tense. It's the exact same 1/
Wrong. You could just tell someone not to use a condom, or not to have sex at all.
I don't see why you would, a fetus is no more a human than a sperm or egg, just a potential. You can't just tell people not to have sex 1/
Are you... Not actually reading what I'm saying or something??
It's a normal, healthy part of the human experience. Birth control should be encouraged, but mistakes happen
paintingagency
Uh... grippy socks = inpatient footwear, right?
Yup.
PegasoRojo
Pretty sure that's the reference, but if we are both wrong, someone tell us!
valiantaesir
Spot on :)
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
From personal experience, yes, inpatient footwear.
Specifically mental inpatient. Shoes have things that can be used to self harm, so we get the warm grippy socks :D
SealandIsARealCountry
I got some after my epidural was removed and I was cleared to walk. I still use them cause they're so cozy
FoamingToad
My dumb friend thanks you for the de-ris. Had a set after surgery a few years back but never heard that particular term.
So I couldn't help him out. <.<>.>
PennywiseBroHymn4
Ooooii
yzark
Bruh wtf I didn't get no free socks when I got sent to the loony bin what a scam
BananaForScaIe
Are you sure you got sent to the loony bin? REALLY SURE?! ;)
Leave them a one star yelp review, that'll show them! (Also they are cheap AF online, just google "medical grip socks")
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Yes they're used there, but they give them to literally everyone that has any procedure done at a hospital. They don't want falling/slipping
Truth, even the slightest fall risk gets the Glorious Grippies.
I've had back surgery & a few spinal injections, no overnights, and been given then everytime. If you're putting on a gown, you get them
gnochi
The worst part of the annual colonoscopy (fucking Crohn’s) is the prep. The best part is my drawer of grippy socks.
Jimmah1
I had to get one at 32. Man that prep is the devil. "Here's a flavor packet, it doesn't taste better but now it's also sour."
DeKetsendeRechter
They still do those institutions over there?
Are you on the wrong post?
Sageypie
Sadly, looks like it's one of those, "psychiatry isn't real" type of views. Idk if they just think folk need to "toughen up" though.
Yeah it's a totally weird vibe coming off of that post. Institutions are an awful, outdated concept. We can do better.
abeansits
What
People with mental disorders were among the first Holocaust victims. Google Aktion T4. To continue the practice of internment and forced ...
treatment (or "treatment"; still plenty of questionable, non-evidence-based practices in psychiatry) in post-WW2 Germany is rather ...
TotallyNotTheNSAGuys
Well. thats a fucking take I guess.
Also in the light of the fact that nothing about psychiatry is truly evidence-based. Not a single double-blind, randomized, controlled ...
DrSchlepenstein
Like I would even know if I was. Plus my parents would have been better off financially at least.
FlaminkoFactor
Fewer humans is better for the world, including existing humans
Absent
*I* was formed by personal experience and knowledge, not birth.
chickensareawesome
I am a fan of this kind of dark humor. But for real, suicides are going to skyrocket. Fuck this country sucks.
BestJackalope
My grandma asked my mom if she wanted to abort when she was pregs with me cause I was put of wedlock, mom was young, etc. Mom got mad 1/
BestJackalope
2/ and told me this after I expressed outrage over Roe. Tried to lord it over me. Told her she should've done it. She would've been happier.
BestJackalope
She wouldn't have been trapped in a loveless marriage for 24 years, pumping out 4 more kids just as miserable as me cause we saw through it.
Youhavinagiraffe
Loads of people who have abortions have children later in their own time. So their kids wouldn't exist if they hadn't had an abortion
trippingthelightfantastic
Thekindofkindlyman
Dark humor is like an aborted fetus. Never gets old.
Chimichanga007
Tis a mercy. Fuck this world they built.
whydidistoplurkingafterallthistime
Them grippy socks comfy as hell tho
ENCHANTMEN
You may as well ask "what if a butterfly flapped its wings and a different sperm cell made it"
ThisIsSteel
For reference, my mom tried to abort me and was stopped. While that is agonizing for me to deal with, I am still pro choice.
DonWrigley
If I had been aborted, I wouldn’t know….
Vengeraxe
"points to scar on forehead" who said she didn't try?
tounushi
"What if..." Imma stop you right there. I'm a determinist. Alternate history what ifs are irrelevant precisely because they didn't happen.
MadCat221
Then I wouldn't care because I wouldn't exist.
IMainReinhardt
"What if you got aborted?' Well motherfucker, I wouldn't have to work 50 hours a week in a job I hate to afford not starving to death.
WhyWeDoThis
My mom didn't as she wanted me, but dude your mom should regreat having you as she would not have imagined you will turn out to be a stooge.
L1NS4S4URUS
LOL I want someone to ask me this, cause I wanna give a similar answer, just to see the reaction.
capughe
Well I wouldn't have any feelings about it being nonexistent
HeirElfSquire
So many kids should have been aborted... unpopular opinion.
ProppaGanda
For example me. This cursed existence.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I am willing to bet anyone can name 100+ people that, if they had been aborted, the world would be demonstrably better
Jimmytheeel
Not that unpopular
LCMcG
People worry about me when I say my mom's life would probably have been much better if she hadn't had me. I get it, but chill.
rhmrcScifiBandit
Unpopular? No. Unspoken, sure
FlaminkoFactor
OMG what will the fascist white nationalists-- err, I mean Christians--think of this shocking declaration??
Lurkerdraegon
Yes, specially those who right now r suffering with junkie/ abusive/ neglecting/ absent/ rapey/ poor, parents/ family/ system and sick.
magicdykexxl
Kyle Shittenhouse
DarkwingDuc
Violent crime dropped drastically in the early 90s, which just happens to be 17 years after Roe v. Wade.... (1/2)
NotABadLookingNarcissist
I remember hearing that theory in freakonomics. Pretty compelling. It also correlates with removing lead from gasoline. Maybe both-and?
DarkwingDuc
(2/2) https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/crime-rate-statistics
Sheldonian
Starting from the biggest baby of them all. In fact we should still abort him
HellIsRoundTheCorner
I suggest D&C
Renza0
legalize 231st trimester abortions
painstream
300+th term abortion?
SonOfLucifer
228th term, I believe...
UnitConversionBotButTerrible
Get Cartmans mom on the job.
PieAndPunch
I wish I was aborted but apparently "I'm here on purpose". My parents have since apologized
ChubbyPikablue
According to the Catholic Church my mom attended as a kid, you're not responsible for your own sins until you're an adult*. (1/?)
ChubbyPikablue
So if the embryo/fetus has a soul, they get a free ride to heaven without having to suffer the BS of life on Earth. If it does not (2/?)
ChubbyPikablue
have a soul it won't know it ever existed. (*idk if the phrasing is "adult" or "18") (3/3)
DoctorCaptainman
My friend doesn't get it. Can someone please explain?
Blackrain39
So a miqo'te is the name the catgirl race in the mmorpg Final Fantasy 14, which has a free trial that includes the award winning expansion h
AnnieMoosie
Thanks, my friend didn’t get it either!
Deleteded
They tried to commit suicide and got committed to a mental health facility which gives the grippy socks.
DoctorCaptainman
My friend says "DAMN" and "thank you"
Deleteded
Tell your friend I said you're welcome. Happy I could help.
Dasnekones
On a side note, I have only heard good things regarding those socks.
zorlonjones
Wow, that's dark. Wow.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Painfully true though. Kids always sense when they're seen as a burden rather than being wholeheartedly wanted & loved. Depression and ...
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
mental illness in general are statistically much higher among the unplanned. Which is why I consider myself pro-abortion,not just pro-choice
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
I'm still pro-choice too. But I also think unless a pregnancy is 100% planned & desired, abortion is always the best possible outcome.
TheBigBadBonerBiter
"What if you were aborted" is a powerless argument in the face of millennials who crave non-existance.
ukalliq
Millennials who think they invented craving non-existence, you mean.
EniChaos
"you would still be wrong. i just wouldn't be here telling you."
kozmo403
Here's the thing, that clump of cells isn't gonna know. It's also not anybodies God damned business what medical procedures you get.
SeanBeanJovi
Seriously. How do you kill that which has not lived?
Lamarzipan
Myramills
https://youtu.be/giZN0ZuDERY Allen Watts on death.
QT3pt141592653
Bible even says life begins at BIRTH. Their whole argument is flawed. I was talking to my dad yesterday (conservative Christian) and he >
QT3pt141592653
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God formed man from the dust, which means the body comes first. But Adam didn't become "alive" until God breathed into him. Aka, the breath>
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braveboy510
The 8mo isn’t ever going to know that its parent tried to shake it to death, either.
porcubot
You don't have to kill it. You can surrender it to the state. Bodily autonomy means that a fetus does not get to live off your body.
porcubot
You do understand how that's different, right? Cause you need to.
WaveMotionGum
A zygote with 32 cells is about the size of a poppy seed. You could hold 100k in the palm of your hand easily. They are nothing like an 8mo
alex5775
The difference is that 8mo old can feel pain and fear it is a human. A fetus is only a potential human just like every sperm and egg cell
alex5775
As "what if you're parents never got together?" Well, I wouldn't be around to care.
WaveMotionGum
The unstated bit is that any argument valuing "potential life" is an argument against contraception, heck even an argument against celibacy.
DocWats
Shit even jerking off is sending the swimmers to be interred in a cotton casket
alex5775
Precisely.
Zerubbabel
So, if you sneak up on it, it's fine?
alex5775
No, you would be ending a human consciousness something a fetus does not have
Zerubbabel
That's difficult to prove.
braveboy510
What do you think of studies claiming pain can be felt in fetuses by end of trimester 2? Many non-human animals can also feel pain + fear.
alex5775
Can you link me to these studies. And you're being needlessly pendantic with that second point, you know damn well what I meant
braveboy510
Here’s an article which references a few. Looks like some sources here claim 27 to 30 weeks is the start time for pain, rather than (1/2)
FloodingWaters
I think that pain is infinitesimally small compared to the brutal savagery of force pregnancy and all thebpain it causes. If you had an
FloodingWaters
ounce of ethics, you'd know that you cannot harm another to save a life, regardless. The mother's wellbeing has primacy in all matters
mistermixelpix
"What if you got aborted?" Fuck man I wasn't alive for the first few billion years of the universe so... it'd be like that.
kaoticgirl
Dawg, I was in my late 30's before I found out I was a *wanted* child.
Chronomechanist
"Well, I wouldn't be here to be having this conversation with you, so I guess I could consider that a win."
PamelaBeeslyHalpert
If my parents aborted me I would have had a better life
alex5775
Yeah that line is flawed because it can only be viewed through hindsight, abortions are viewed in the present tense. It's the exact same 1/
alex5775
As "what if you're parents never got together?" Well, I wouldn't be around to care.
mistermixelpix
Wrong. You could just tell someone not to use a condom, or not to have sex at all.
alex5775
I don't see why you would, a fetus is no more a human than a sperm or egg, just a potential. You can't just tell people not to have sex 1/
mistermixelpix
Are you... Not actually reading what I'm saying or something??
alex5775
It's a normal, healthy part of the human experience. Birth control should be encouraged, but mistakes happen
paintingagency
Uh... grippy socks = inpatient footwear, right?
SeanBeanJovi
Yup.
PegasoRojo
Pretty sure that's the reference, but if we are both wrong, someone tell us!
valiantaesir
Spot on :)
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
From personal experience, yes, inpatient footwear.
valiantaesir
Specifically mental inpatient. Shoes have things that can be used to self harm, so we get the warm grippy socks :D
SealandIsARealCountry
I got some after my epidural was removed and I was cleared to walk. I still use them cause they're so cozy
FoamingToad
My dumb friend thanks you for the de-ris. Had a set after surgery a few years back but never heard that particular term.
FoamingToad
So I couldn't help him out.
<.<
>.>
PennywiseBroHymn4
Ooooii
yzark
Bruh wtf I didn't get no free socks when I got sent to the loony bin what a scam
BananaForScaIe
Are you sure you got sent to the loony bin? REALLY SURE?! ;)
valiantaesir
Leave them a one star yelp review, that'll show them! (Also they are cheap AF online, just google "medical grip socks")
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Yes they're used there, but they give them to literally everyone that has any procedure done at a hospital. They don't want falling/slipping
valiantaesir
Truth, even the slightest fall risk gets the Glorious Grippies.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
I've had back surgery & a few spinal injections, no overnights, and been given then everytime. If you're putting on a gown, you get them
gnochi
The worst part of the annual colonoscopy (fucking Crohn’s) is the prep. The best part is my drawer of grippy socks.
Jimmah1
I had to get one at 32. Man that prep is the devil. "Here's a flavor packet, it doesn't taste better but now it's also sour."
DeKetsendeRechter
They still do those institutions over there?
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DeKetsendeRechter
Are you on the wrong post?
Sageypie
Sadly, looks like it's one of those, "psychiatry isn't real" type of views. Idk if they just think folk need to "toughen up" though.
DeKetsendeRechter
Yeah it's a totally weird vibe coming off of that post. Institutions are an awful, outdated concept. We can do better.
abeansits
What
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
People with mental disorders were among the first Holocaust victims. Google Aktion T4. To continue the practice of internment and forced ...
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
treatment (or "treatment"; still plenty of questionable, non-evidence-based practices in psychiatry) in post-WW2 Germany is rather ...
TotallyNotTheNSAGuys
Well. thats a fucking take I guess.
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FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Also in the light of the fact that nothing about psychiatry is truly evidence-based. Not a single double-blind, randomized, controlled ...