Apr 21, 2022 8:49 AM
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cedrychskye
https://www.deviantart.com/mattrhodesart/art/We-are-NOT-taking-the-wizard-626887777
tanebot
"Fooolssss! Kill the one in the dress!" - Nefarian, in UBRS.
CornCobMcGee
My tabaxi sorcerer purloined a tricorn from the corpse of a sailor. I'm a pirate kitty. Who shoots lightning from his fingertips.
Grapeape2000
FetteredJuvenescence
Dude, if I became a wizard it would literally be to get to wear those cool fucking robes and hats.
laylowdown
Geek the mage!!
Jilhoa
You need 'wizzard' on the hat, duh!
IainG101
My artillerist artificer dresses like Mal Reynolds, except there's chainmail under the long coat.
TheFunionKnight
After attending UU for upwards of 8 years a wizard is worthy of the respect of his station, even if he has to embroid wizzard on his hat
I'd like to see someone tell arch chancellor mustrum ridcully to tone down the robes
ragekritz
My spellcaster in Shadowrun was a giant blue troll woman with a cyborg arm who carried a katana, most didn't see the lightning ball coming.
Vengeraxe
Shadowrun for the win!
Tbkssom
As a master wizard I fear nothing- for I have 4 HP and am thus incapable of feeling pain- only the sweet embrace of victory and the
Gentle embrace of death.
TattoosAndTENS
Sir Terry Pratchett approved post
CaveGrue
Wizards be like:
KiwiGameDev
“Oh wow, you went to the neverwinter academy. Never heard of it. Is that like, a community college?”
reichstein
Plus Wizards are magical nerds while Sorcerers are basically super-powered mutants.
mward1984
"Kill first" is correct, but also, don't miss, because he's got a Wall of Flame and Melfs Meteors ready to go.
bogus1983
Pointy hat and blue robes, you say?
ralmar414
Query: what about Wizzards?
SovereignOnyx
I don’t understand the aversion mages and wizards have to wearing lightweight armor, or at least wearing a little more than a bathrobe.
unclejoewastaken
What word is censored there? Is it Mach Fuck? Mach Shit?
ThomasThundersword
had to find the original. it’s fuck.
TwoFlower68
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/b/b1/Littlefinger_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160406135928
That looks rather cool tbh. Is that an aketon (aka gambeson aka wambuys (sp?)
TheLeanWolf
Can mages still not wear armor for whatever reason? I'd dress as a rogue or light fighter, not threatening but then boom unexpected fireball
PhailRaptor
The Wizard/Sorcerer would have to gain the proficiency from somewhere, like a Feat or racial feature, or it will prevent them from casting
DangerTrain
Have you ever tried to wear just a chainmail shirt? It is not light. If you're a librarian that jazzercises to fight, you need to be light.
If it's D&D you're talking about, armor doesn't interfere with magic specifically anymore, but not being trained to wear armor >>>
interferes with everything now. and most magic users aren't trained to wear armor.
gaenaralhonk
If you got proficiency you can. So dwarf wizards in medium armor definitely work.
hogeyegrex
I put on my robe and Wizard hat.
ChloeRed
Just be careful it's not a wizzard hat?
brickius
Make your tanks wear robes over their armour and your wizards wear fake armour made of paper - shock and awe
ElioNope
Disguise self -> appearance of armor
kadaeux
I had a group try that once, wearing the robes, sure. But I had them roll a disguise test to make fake armour. The Rogue rolled a Nat 1. 1/
They went into battle wearing cardboard boxes with the words "I'm wearing plate mail" written on them...
EthanBolender
Going for the Warhammer 40K Ork approach I see. If I write it on me and believe it hard enough, then it magically happens.
Turbogoat
Headology. Dress so people Know you couldturn them into a frog, so you don't have to.
DrKriegersClone
Or, more cruelly, leave them a human but make them *think* they've been turned into a frog.
SirenBrick
Or leave a lot of frogs around the houses of people you have scared off and don't let them think they can ask questions about it.
It was a specific Discworld reference, but ok
scholarmonkey
It's most important to write "Wizzard" on your hat so there can be no doubts about it
You do need to know AT LEAST 1 spell though, technically.
thecowkingdom
Saying ook works too, or at least people don't argue with you
gorillaClutch
I didn't spend eight years in wizard school to be called "MISTER" thank you very much.
dankymang
Mr Wizard was a dick. https://youtu.be/VEb1aF2YoKU
Seggs
"you know, a lot of people go to college for 7 years" "yea, theyre called [wizards]"
Snooj
His TV show was the best, though.
Mxlespxles
ambalika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwgH5E38JR0 this goes here :P
Imalwaysready
Keru
Grand Wizard gorillaClutch it is, then.
cepacolusmaximus
Unless you're a water wizard, specializing in aerosols
A hydrophobe?
I feel like a hydrophobic water wizard would be a pretty unhappy person
They have them in Pratchett's discworld in order to travel quickly across water they live short unhappy lives
https://wiki.lspace.org/Hydrophobe
BaldProfessor
hesaidsarcastically
Doctor Wizard Sir
wartoaster
Yes, Chef
thatunpleasantfeeling
I have a character who gets angry when his allies forget he is 'Dr'. Brah. Do you know how long I was paying off those student loans?
Haidere1988
Y'all paid off your student loans?
Sally Mae has epic level spells and an attitude problem.
It's DR. Wizard to you.
RuthlessRuben
Damn right it's important, my Shadowrun wizard finishing his doctorate in applied combat magic was a major plot point in the campaign.
TehJhun
If I'm playing a necromancer, you better believe I'll wear bones every chance I get. I can animate and transmute that shit.
Minnowtaur
Why wear bones when you can pilot a mecha made of bones
Because power armor is cooler and a mecha won't fit into a 10x10 dungeon corridor.
"a mecha won't fit into a 10x10 dungeon corridor" Not with that attitude. Gonna let some ARCHITECT NERD tell you how much space you get...
FallingStar7669
I'm playing a Gnome Necromancer and I fully intend on riding around in the rib-cage of my creation like a godless mecha.
Ifixthingsthatdestroyotherthings
Leather is just dead skin, imagine a shambling monstrosity of tanned and hardened flesh that can engulf and snare its victims
LoopStricken
Keith Richards.
Fun fact: Heat Metal can be easily adapted to target Leather and deal Necrotic damage instead.
behind7proxies
Even more fun when the enemy is wearing leather!
Pentacus
I remember a community lets play of Dwarf Fortress where the players realised why using leather in an area that causes undeath is a bad idea
LoreLord
It's not just leather, sheared wool is also a zombie
NotWelcomehere
Dwarf Fortress is the most insane game...so massive.
nycterelis
Rather than the differences between sorc/wiz, I think we're seeing someone who has and someone who hasn't played with a spiteful DM
windsingr
I have played with a spiteful DM. He would have still targeted the mage anyway.
wintermute93
Nah. If the DM doesn't use monsters that react appropriately to known in-world threats they're kinda shit at encounter design.
If they're sapient, sure
thedysentery
agreed. Beasts might attack indiscriminately, but smart enemies will hit whatever isn't in plate; doubly so if it shoots fireballs or heals.
Yup. My GMing policy is that smarter enemies will take the chance to deal with a spellcaster if they get the chance. BUT, 1/
if the spellcaster crits? Then *every* enemy with the ability to do so WILL attack them the next round. 2/2
Yeah, my current character recently learned that blasting Drow with sunlight and fireballs kinda gets their attention.
DameDePiques
What IS the difference between a wizard and a sorcerer?
Wizards are magical nerds and Sorcerers are super-powered mutants.
delecti
TLDR: PHD student vs child prodigy.
Trisar
Wizards are Dr. Strange, Sorcerers are Harry Potter.
Nope, both of those characters are Wizards. Scarlet Witch is a Sorcerer, until she started multi-classing into Wizard.
Harry Potter requires the right bloodline. Or did when I last looked.
True, but IMO they're still Wizards since they require formal training and specific incantations. Wandless magic does seem Sorcerery though
SciencePetsComputers
Wizards get spells via study and practice. Sorcerers get theirs their spells innate power. Warlocks make a (usually evil)pact to get theirs.
GCRust
Mechanically, Sorcs know fewer spells but don't have to prep them beforehand. Wizards have more versatility but need prep time.
Also HOLY FUCK is the spellbook based as all hell...unless you lose it or have it destroyed...BIND IT IN ARMOR!
Quixus
As always, no backup, no pity.
Hehehehe fair!
Think of it like high school: Wizards had to study, Sorcerers have natural talent. Warlocks gave the teacher a quickie behind the bike shed.
Warlocks honeypotted the superintendent*
SilentHowling
Wizard's learn magic. Sorcerer's are magic.
MAGIC BLOOD!
secretdpp
Sorcerer has innate magic, casts more per day but knows a super limited number of spells ever. Wizards cast a bit less but as their spells
Are written down they can have ALL the Arcane spells in theory. If you want to be Superman and do One Thing REALLY good. Sorcerer
If you prefer living godhood and the power that comes with having more than 4 options. Wizard is the choice. Now they're both squishy so get
A fighter or five and make friends with them, shits dangerous
In d&d? Spontaneous versus prepared spell casting. A wizard learns magic. A sorcerer comes by it naturally-- usually by birth.
drbloodbathmc
Wizard = years of study in order to bend the rules of the universe to your whim. Soccer = you had an ancestor fuck a magical creature.
Vampoodle
Hey man, sometimes it's just chaos magic actively fucking with you. Fail a check and send out flaming butterflies instead of a sleep spell
75centslurpee
Nature vs nurture. Magic style.
Thanks for explaining. I think I would rather be a low-key sorcerer, then.
ArmoredWanderer
A wizard can learn as many spells as they want, more versatility. Sorcerers get fewer spells that come to them naturally.
As the other dude that replied to you mentioned, there are mechanical differences as well. Wizards tend to have a more adaptability 1/2
But it also means the have to plan ahead. Meaning they have to prepare their available spells for the day each morning. A sorc can't 2/x
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
Can you imagine the horrors of an infant that can cast fireballs?
literatewench
Makes living in a stone tower seem more sensible: poison gas clouds can dissipate, fire can't burn much, the acid will wash off.
Typically it manifests around puberty. So while fireball slinging babies are scary, angsty rebellious drama-teens might be worse
cedrychskye
https://www.deviantart.com/mattrhodesart/art/We-are-NOT-taking-the-wizard-626887777
tanebot
"Fooolssss! Kill the one in the dress!" - Nefarian, in UBRS.
CornCobMcGee
My tabaxi sorcerer purloined a tricorn from the corpse of a sailor. I'm a pirate kitty. Who shoots lightning from his fingertips.
Grapeape2000
FetteredJuvenescence
Dude, if I became a wizard it would literally be to get to wear those cool fucking robes and hats.
laylowdown
Geek the mage!!
Jilhoa
You need 'wizzard' on the hat, duh!
IainG101
My artillerist artificer dresses like Mal Reynolds, except there's chainmail under the long coat.
TheFunionKnight
After attending UU for upwards of 8 years a wizard is worthy of the respect of his station, even if he has to embroid wizzard on his hat
TheFunionKnight
ragekritz
My spellcaster in Shadowrun was a giant blue troll woman with a cyborg arm who carried a katana, most didn't see the lightning ball coming.
Vengeraxe
Shadowrun for the win!
Tbkssom
As a master wizard I fear nothing- for I have 4 HP and am thus incapable of feeling pain- only the sweet embrace of victory and the
Tbkssom
Gentle embrace of death.
TattoosAndTENS
Sir Terry Pratchett approved post
CaveGrue
Wizards be like:
KiwiGameDev
“Oh wow, you went to the neverwinter academy. Never heard of it. Is that like, a community college?”
reichstein
Plus Wizards are magical nerds while Sorcerers are basically super-powered mutants.
mward1984
"Kill first" is correct, but also, don't miss, because he's got a Wall of Flame and Melfs Meteors ready to go.
bogus1983
Pointy hat and blue robes, you say?
ralmar414
Query: what about Wizzards?
SovereignOnyx
I don’t understand the aversion mages and wizards have to wearing lightweight armor, or at least wearing a little more than a bathrobe.
unclejoewastaken
What word is censored there? Is it Mach Fuck? Mach Shit?
ThomasThundersword
had to find the original. it’s fuck.
TwoFlower68
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/b/b1/Littlefinger_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160406135928
TwoFlower68
That looks rather cool tbh. Is that an aketon (aka gambeson aka wambuys (sp?)
TheLeanWolf
Can mages still not wear armor for whatever reason? I'd dress as a rogue or light fighter, not threatening but then boom unexpected fireball
PhailRaptor
The Wizard/Sorcerer would have to gain the proficiency from somewhere, like a Feat or racial feature, or it will prevent them from casting
DangerTrain
Have you ever tried to wear just a chainmail shirt? It is not light. If you're a librarian that jazzercises to fight, you need to be light.
CaveGrue
If it's D&D you're talking about, armor doesn't interfere with magic specifically anymore, but not being trained to wear armor >>>
CaveGrue
interferes with everything now. and most magic users aren't trained to wear armor.
gaenaralhonk
If you got proficiency you can. So dwarf wizards in medium armor definitely work.
hogeyegrex
I put on my robe and Wizard hat.
ChloeRed
Just be careful it's not a wizzard hat?
brickius
Make your tanks wear robes over their armour and your wizards wear fake armour made of paper - shock and awe
ElioNope
Disguise self -> appearance of armor
kadaeux
I had a group try that once, wearing the robes, sure. But I had them roll a disguise test to make fake armour. The Rogue rolled a Nat 1. 1/
kadaeux
They went into battle wearing cardboard boxes with the words "I'm wearing plate mail" written on them...
EthanBolender
Going for the Warhammer 40K Ork approach I see. If I write it on me and believe it hard enough, then it magically happens.
Turbogoat
Headology. Dress so people Know you couldturn them into a frog, so you don't have to.
DrKriegersClone
Or, more cruelly, leave them a human but make them *think* they've been turned into a frog.
SirenBrick
Or leave a lot of frogs around the houses of people you have scared off and don't let them think they can ask questions about it.
DrKriegersClone
It was a specific Discworld reference, but ok
scholarmonkey
It's most important to write "Wizzard" on your hat so there can be no doubts about it
SirenBrick
You do need to know AT LEAST 1 spell though, technically.
thecowkingdom
Saying ook works too, or at least people don't argue with you
gorillaClutch
I didn't spend eight years in wizard school to be called "MISTER" thank you very much.
dankymang
Mr Wizard was a dick. https://youtu.be/VEb1aF2YoKU
Seggs
"you know, a lot of people go to college for 7 years" "yea, theyre called [wizards]"
Snooj
His TV show was the best, though.
Mxlespxles
ambalika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwgH5E38JR0 this goes here :P
Imalwaysready
Keru
Grand Wizard gorillaClutch it is, then.
cepacolusmaximus
Unless you're a water wizard, specializing in aerosols
TheFunionKnight
A hydrophobe?
cepacolusmaximus
I feel like a hydrophobic water wizard would be a pretty unhappy person
TheFunionKnight
They have them in Pratchett's discworld in order to travel quickly across water they live short unhappy lives
TheFunionKnight
https://wiki.lspace.org/Hydrophobe
BaldProfessor
hesaidsarcastically
Doctor Wizard Sir
wartoaster
Yes, Chef
thatunpleasantfeeling
I have a character who gets angry when his allies forget he is 'Dr'. Brah. Do you know how long I was paying off those student loans?
Haidere1988
Y'all paid off your student loans?
thatunpleasantfeeling
Sally Mae has epic level spells and an attitude problem.
thatunpleasantfeeling
It's DR. Wizard to you.
RuthlessRuben
Damn right it's important, my Shadowrun wizard finishing his doctorate in applied combat magic was a major plot point in the campaign.
TehJhun
If I'm playing a necromancer, you better believe I'll wear bones every chance I get. I can animate and transmute that shit.
Minnowtaur
Why wear bones when you can pilot a mecha made of bones
TehJhun
Because power armor is cooler and a mecha won't fit into a 10x10 dungeon corridor.
Minnowtaur
"a mecha won't fit into a 10x10 dungeon corridor" Not with that attitude. Gonna let some ARCHITECT NERD tell you how much space you get...
FallingStar7669
I'm playing a Gnome Necromancer and I fully intend on riding around in the rib-cage of my creation like a godless mecha.
Ifixthingsthatdestroyotherthings
Leather is just dead skin, imagine a shambling monstrosity of tanned and hardened flesh that can engulf and snare its victims
LoopStricken
Keith Richards.
TehJhun
Fun fact: Heat Metal can be easily adapted to target Leather and deal Necrotic damage instead.
behind7proxies
Even more fun when the enemy is wearing leather!
Pentacus
I remember a community lets play of Dwarf Fortress where the players realised why using leather in an area that causes undeath is a bad idea
LoreLord
It's not just leather, sheared wool is also a zombie
NotWelcomehere
Dwarf Fortress is the most insane game...so massive.
nycterelis
Rather than the differences between sorc/wiz, I think we're seeing someone who has and someone who hasn't played with a spiteful DM
windsingr
I have played with a spiteful DM. He would have still targeted the mage anyway.
wintermute93
Nah. If the DM doesn't use monsters that react appropriately to known in-world threats they're kinda shit at encounter design.
nycterelis
If they're sapient, sure
thedysentery
agreed. Beasts might attack indiscriminately, but smart enemies will hit whatever isn't in plate; doubly so if it shoots fireballs or heals.
kadaeux
Yup. My GMing policy is that smarter enemies will take the chance to deal with a spellcaster if they get the chance. BUT, 1/
kadaeux
if the spellcaster crits? Then *every* enemy with the ability to do so WILL attack them the next round. 2/2
reichstein
Yeah, my current character recently learned that blasting Drow with sunlight and fireballs kinda gets their attention.
DameDePiques
What IS the difference between a wizard and a sorcerer?
reichstein
Wizards are magical nerds and Sorcerers are super-powered mutants.
delecti
TLDR: PHD student vs child prodigy.
Trisar
Wizards are Dr. Strange, Sorcerers are Harry Potter.
reichstein
Nope, both of those characters are Wizards. Scarlet Witch is a Sorcerer, until she started multi-classing into Wizard.
Trisar
Harry Potter requires the right bloodline. Or did when I last looked.
reichstein
True, but IMO they're still Wizards since they require formal training and specific incantations. Wandless magic does seem Sorcerery though
SciencePetsComputers
Wizards get spells via study and practice. Sorcerers get theirs their spells innate power. Warlocks make a (usually evil)pact to get theirs.
GCRust
Mechanically, Sorcs know fewer spells but don't have to prep them beforehand. Wizards have more versatility but need prep time.
NotWelcomehere
Also HOLY FUCK is the spellbook based as all hell...unless you lose it or have it destroyed...BIND IT IN ARMOR!
Quixus
As always, no backup, no pity.
NotWelcomehere
Hehehehe fair!
Pentacus
Think of it like high school: Wizards had to study, Sorcerers have natural talent. Warlocks gave the teacher a quickie behind the bike shed.
NotWelcomehere
Warlocks honeypotted the superintendent*
SilentHowling
Wizard's learn magic. Sorcerer's are magic.
NotWelcomehere
MAGIC BLOOD!
secretdpp
Sorcerer has innate magic, casts more per day but knows a super limited number of spells ever. Wizards cast a bit less but as their spells
secretdpp
Are written down they can have ALL the Arcane spells in theory. If you want to be Superman and do One Thing REALLY good. Sorcerer
secretdpp
If you prefer living godhood and the power that comes with having more than 4 options. Wizard is the choice. Now they're both squishy so get
secretdpp
A fighter or five and make friends with them, shits dangerous
nycterelis
In d&d? Spontaneous versus prepared spell casting. A wizard learns magic. A sorcerer comes by it naturally-- usually by birth.
drbloodbathmc
Wizard = years of study in order to bend the rules of the universe to your whim. Soccer = you had an ancestor fuck a magical creature.
Vampoodle
Hey man, sometimes it's just chaos magic actively fucking with you. Fail a check and send out flaming butterflies instead of a sleep spell
75centslurpee
Nature vs nurture. Magic style.
DameDePiques
Thanks for explaining. I think I would rather be a low-key sorcerer, then.
ArmoredWanderer
A wizard can learn as many spells as they want, more versatility. Sorcerers get fewer spells that come to them naturally.
nycterelis
As the other dude that replied to you mentioned, there are mechanical differences as well. Wizards tend to have a more adaptability 1/2
nycterelis
But it also means the have to plan ahead. Meaning they have to prepare their available spells for the day each morning. A sorc can't 2/x
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
Can you imagine the horrors of an infant that can cast fireballs?
literatewench
Makes living in a stone tower seem more sensible: poison gas clouds can dissipate, fire can't burn much, the acid will wash off.
nycterelis
Typically it manifests around puberty. So while fireball slinging babies are scary, angsty rebellious drama-teens might be worse