I see a scar from a skin stylus skin biopsy device/ familiar small round 3mm hole at 10 o'clock- not a bullet crease if it's Trump's ear after the shooting- it was indeed his right ear. Yes it would bleed for a few minutes. Also there never was a medical report and only Dr. Ronnie saw the ear, which was seriously out of the ordinary/policy. I draw no conclusions; the FBI finally, months later, said Trump was shot but they refused to report for the first month...also EXTREMELY unusual.
Remember when Trump spread that conspiracy theory about Biden got replaced by an Android? And remember every accusation is a confession? Well, here's a conspiracy theory of mine: They built the Trump-bot to hasty and now he's falling apart, but not beginning with the ears...
I feel like people put too much energy into arguing whether or not he got shot or grazed. MAGA doesn't care, they focus on there being an assassination attempt in general. That's the basis of the photo they all worship and their attachment to the event. Even if nothing touched his ear at all, a guy still got shot and died so "people tried to assassinate Trump and he survived" is still valid in their eyes.
I love the Republicans at first who were like "Somebody died, he wouldn't kill one of his own." And now that never gets brought up anymore. Wonder why.
I watched this video of the assassination attempt with the wide angles and closeup. I can not find the giant flag that is in the still photos. https://youtu.be/i5zkXE5dZ4Q
Basically since day 3 no one with any brains was saying he was shot with a bullet, so I don't really understand the need to "debunk" something no one thought was true.
The convention claim is he was hit by some form of shrapnel, so if you want people to believe your conspiracy that's what you need to debunk.
I hope I live to see the craziest of the conspiracies he’s involved with. I know it’ll be 20 or 30 years down the road, but I bet killing that kid for a photo op is gonna be the LEAST crazy thing in the anthology. Will Christian Bale play him in the eventual movie?
I hope the smegma dorito chokes on a mcnugget but I keep seeing these posts about the ear and nobody comments on the possibility of him having gone through some sort of reconstructive surgery?
Out of everything, I am willing to believe that Trump's shooting was staged.
- Shooter was a registered MAGA voter. - Trump's injury never seemed to exist. - Footage shows his "fight" chant/pose was staged, as they moved photographers to a specific spot and lowered the flag immediately after the "assassination attempt". - The shooter was confirmed as seen by security & secret service at least 10min beforehand, and nobody did anything? - Shooter was stated to be "worst" marksmen at his gun club.
The only time he ever Freudian slips the truth is when he accuses others of his crimes. Remember “they’re sending rapists and muderers”? And guess what he has done
This was made up "asssssasination" to boost his voters. False flag operation after another and another. This is 100% same playbook hitler took and his "party". The shooter was also so bad that I cant belive it. He had perfect position and fucked all up and the thing nobody saw him...lol they lie so fucking lot that you cannot believe anything. this was made up attempt
This one is getting old. He wasn't shot, no one is claiming he was shot except people who continue to purposely ignore information. The claim is he got nicked by debris. Superficial cuts can bleed a lot and heal with little to no scarring. Put this one to bed already.
So why DID Trump's ear not have any permanent damage from being hit by... well, we don't even know what it was that supposedly hit his ear, do we? Was it the bullet itself? A fragment from the teleprompter? Whatever it was, it didn't do any permanent damage to tissues that generally do not heal up to their original form when damaged.
The reason there wasn't much damage to his ear is because the bullet nicked it. Like... .1mm contact? Maybe a little more / a little less? Enough to split skin and bleed, but not enough to blow a hole in it.
I know I may receive tons of downvotes but I believe he was grazed by a bullet.. sure the bandage afterwards was a piece of marketing but being grazed still hurt.. guy I know says it can feel like a bee sting.. not sure how he would know, he as never been shot or anything
The physics of being grazed by a bullet would have, at minimum, given him severe burns on the delicate skin of the ear. There's no trace of a scar from that, which there would be. The most plausible scenario based on the evidence is that he was struck by flying debris, which cut him.
Btw just to set the record straight: I hate this guy and I hope he has a stroke or an aneurysm but survives while suffering from heavy loss of bodily function.. that way he won’t become a martyr
One ear was shot, one was lightly grazed. Both had an encounter with a real bullet. And no, I'm not taking Trump's word for it. There are photographs and other physical evidence showing it.
Yeah I think a lot of blood would come out even from a small graze. If it was faked, then they would have chosen a fall guy who was antifa, not a disgruntled conservative.
This is so stupid. I don’t like Trump either but I’m not so naive to believe in some dumb conspiracy theory that it was faked. He really did get nicked in his ear, people really died at that rally. Was the government trying to take him out? I don’t think so, but that’s more plausible than the fake ear nonsense.
I highly doubt Trump had a ketchup packet at the ready just in case. I doubt even more that that the shooter was part of some false flag operation. That said, the bullet, or debris from the bullet impacting something, nicked his ear. Trump didn't "take a bullet" as he likes to claim. Trump peddles in hate so it's no surprise he attracts violent haters.
Dude wasn't shot or hit with shrapnel. There was no shrapnel. Nothing else was hit with a round except for the guy in the crowd.
Cartilage doesn't heal well. At all. Notice how his old ass magically has NO scarring at all? None. Not even a little white line of scar tissue.
Shrapnel from the teleprompter was debunked. If he was in any true danger SS would have exfil'ed him asap, not let him get up with a back prop of the flag and pump his fist in the air.
You dont need cartilage damage to bleed like a stuck pig when taking blood thinners which his lard ass is probably on. My dad bled all over he households scratching a mosquito bite.
The only one I saw that made sense was that he hit the holster on an agents hip. Thing is there is people filming behind him. Think of what that video would sell for? To either prove or disprove that he was shot and bleeding on the way down or not.
There wasn't a single drop of blood visible on him until he went down into the huddle with secret service and then popped up to pose for a photo. Had it been a real event, the SS would have dragged his ass out of there. When Reagan got shot at, they *threw* him into a car and Ronnie had no say in the matter. Because *that* is their job.
This and more over he was a presidential candidate that was shot at, even if there was no blood that would still be a powerful rally cry for his cult, no need to lie to embellish it.
Regardless of anything else, a person in the crowd took a bullet. Someone shot at Trump with live rounds. The only reason they'd try to fake an assassination attempt with live rounds is if they were 100% fine with it accidentally being a real assassination.
There is enough skin on the ear for a bullet to have merely graze it, make it bleed, and not damage the cartilage. It is very unlikely, but it is possible.
Occam's Razor says that it must be some Rube Goldberg level conspiracy involving dozens of people including someone who sacrificed their life to make it look convincing. /s.
And coincidentally, the Secret Service just updated its guidelines. From now on, you can pop right back up after getting shot — as long as someone just lowered an American Flag into the frame in the background....
They were hand picked by Trump. Yes they are likely THAT incompetent. Picked for looks and sycophantic loyalty alone. Just look at the rest of his dumbfuckery called and administration.
Its from the right and the left as well. The left says it is a stunt to build him up. The right seems to think that there are people who dont like parts of his message trying to take him out. Sometimes. People. Act. Crazy. Its not hard to get a gun and do something like this if youre not worried about self preservation.
We also havent heard much about Luigi.. until recently when Pam Bondi talks about the death penalty.. there's just not much to report.. don't be all conspiracy theorist about everything, not every babystep is newsworthy.
That's because there's nothing interesting to report. He's been charged, and the lawyers are arguing in pre-trial motions (gag orders, media access, venue arguments, courtroom access, what evidence can be used, etc...) It's taking longer than normal because defense is contesting a lot and prosecutors have stated they will pursue the death penalty, which slows down and complicates the pre-trial process.
Preliminary hearing is scheduled for January, so expect him to be in the news, briefly, then.
You haven't heard anything about Tyler because he's not the golden ticket they wanted him to be. Everything would be leaked to the public by Patel, Hegseth and Trump had Tyler been a transgender radical leftist. But in reality, Tyler is just another horribly cringey right wing Groyper that killed Charlie because he thought Nick Fuentes would want him to. It's also why they dont want the trial publicized because that info would be revealed to the world.
Where all the video footage of Charlie getting shot? Couple videos from weird angles?!. Didn’t they broadcasted it Live front camera view, or hundreds of people is the audience holding their smartphones/cameras?!? Where all that footage?
Seeing all the shit I've heard the MAGA crowd say about "the Jews killing Jesus", you'd think they be upset over the guy who took a shot at their savior.
They're not saying anything because Trump isn't saying anything. And yeah, that's funny that Trump isn't frothing at the mouth about someone who shot him, when he'll go into a nuclear meltdown over someone saying Tyler is right-wing
Because when Republicans want to talk about someone they never shut up when they think it is politically advantageous. We had to listen for years all about Hunter Biden, his work, his persona life, everything they could get ahold of, only for nothing to happen. But they have a suspect in custody for the murder of Charlie Kirk and everyone just forgot about the whole think a month later.
1) We know that from day 1, the guy who got shot was a fireman who died. 2) We're not hearing about Robinson because he's a groyper, you don't build a false flag attack with that, what interest is there to get Kirk killed ? He was actually the biggest influence for right wingers, he may have been a neo-nazi but he was good at public speeches, not matter how false they were (truth has never mattered when relying on the 'pathos') nobody has taken over and the movement is slowly collapsing.
Kirk was likely offed because he was beginning to question Israel, the GOP needed a new distraction, and he would serve as a good martyr for the right-wing movement. They also chose to use a groyper who had some kind of connection to those their base would view as "the other." So they could try to blame it on trans people or "the left."
Or maybe the infighting, which is a natural part of fascist movements as we've seen with nazism and other as you can't have united groups, as they would risk banding up against the leader, got him killed. Something which have been studied. But who knows.
Eh, that'd be a terrible plan. Martydom is temporary, Kirk will fade from view (and he was killed more than a year from a relevant election). On the flip side, Kirk was one of the Right's most effective talking heads with young people - a key demographic they struggle with. He was much more valuable alive than dead.
Granted i don't follow neo-nazi bubble closely, but i've yet to see how. His influence over white men greatly helped Trump get elected imo. The only thing i hear is the movement eroding as we're seeing with MAGAts congress people even starting to consider resigning. His influence on the internet was evident though.
I vaguely knew of him before he died, I've heard about him nonstop since he was shot. His funeral was a major media event, he was made into a conservative martyr. I've also heard that his organization has grown faster than ever after he was killed.
I follow politics, i constantly heard of him, i practically never hear about him anymore except from people from here making posts about him. We'll have to see in the long run because short burst always happen after someone's death, we'll see after a year where it really stand, in the meantime there's still no one to keep it going, they're all incompetent.
His death made his name mainstream, but that isn't spreading his propaganda along with it. His organization was one of the main groups responsible for bussing people to the capital on Jan 6, he was *very* influential in life, just not widely known for it.
Jaqdakloun
Dang, I know this one, it was on Trivial Pursuit last night
SzKnoWnzEvr72
Pretty sure it was McDonald's ketchup
michaelfire
I see a scar from a skin stylus skin biopsy device/ familiar small round 3mm hole at 10 o'clock- not a bullet crease if it's Trump's ear after the shooting- it was indeed his right ear. Yes it would bleed for a few minutes. Also there never was a medical report and only Dr. Ronnie saw the ear, which was seriously out of the ordinary/policy. I draw no conclusions; the FBI finally, months later, said Trump was shot but they refused to report for the first month...also EXTREMELY unusual.
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
Remember when Trump spread that conspiracy theory about Biden got replaced by an Android? And remember every accusation is a confession? Well, here's a conspiracy theory of mine: They built the Trump-bot to hasty and now he's falling apart, but not beginning with the ears...
Yourburstenemy
It was already established that a piece of shrapnel or broken glass grazed his ear. Please stop spreading dumb theories. It makes all of us look bad.
Cervidaesigns
I feel like people put too much energy into arguing whether or not he got shot or grazed. MAGA doesn't care, they focus on there being an assassination attempt in general. That's the basis of the photo they all worship and their attachment to the event. Even if nothing touched his ear at all, a guy still got shot and died so "people tried to assassinate Trump and he survived" is still valid in their eyes.
badkluster04
iirc trump wasn't shot in the ear, his ear caught a small plastic fragment flying from the shot, right?
MrNobodyWTB
And one of them is a picture of a pig
Alykat06660
If at first you don’t succeed,try try again.
ReallyNotSure
even his ear lies.
awkungen42
I love the Republicans at first who were like "Somebody died, he wouldn't kill one of his own." And now that never gets brought up anymore. Wonder why.
JPeterman2
I bet even his hips lie.. Shakira's on the other hand, don't https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1cWloY3NwN2d1YTdwcngwOTBkNzYyNngxOG5pZHlod2F1YXlnenk1MCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/CWjvjzKT957fGnybfJ/200w.webp
madmax17
Epic 💘
Isorikk
Probably not a popular opinion around here but one of these guys also probably has some of the best plastic surgeons in the country on call
Unfortunate500
I watched this video of the assassination attempt with the wide angles and closeup. I can not find the giant flag that is in the still photos.
https://youtu.be/i5zkXE5dZ4Q
What am I missing
Notched120
Trump was not shot...
Kirk was an inside job, prove me wrong.
We have not heard a SINGLE fucking thing about Tyler Robinson since the shooting. MAGA has been quiet too.
mrthewhitee
Basically since day 3 no one with any brains was saying he was shot with a bullet, so I don't really understand the need to "debunk" something no one thought was true.
The convention claim is he was hit by some form of shrapnel, so if you want people to believe your conspiracy that's what you need to debunk.
GiZZiLLa
There was a video on here of a staff member ushering the media to the best visible spot to get pictures. I had it, but now it's gone...
joshuasplinth
I hope I live to see the craziest of the conspiracies he’s involved with. I know it’ll be 20 or 30 years down the road, but I bet killing that kid for a photo op is gonna be the LEAST crazy thing in the anthology. Will Christian Bale play him in the eventual movie?
Joseleimgur
I hope the smegma dorito chokes on a mcnugget but I keep seeing these posts about the ear and nobody comments on the possibility of him having gone through some sort of reconstructive surgery?
GrenithTheSkald
Out of everything, I am willing to believe that Trump's shooting was staged.
- Shooter was a registered MAGA voter.
- Trump's injury never seemed to exist.
- Footage shows his "fight" chant/pose was staged, as they moved photographers to a specific spot and lowered the flag immediately after the "assassination attempt".
- The shooter was confirmed as seen by security & secret service at least 10min beforehand, and nobody did anything?
- Shooter was stated to be "worst" marksmen at his gun club.
DoEpicStuffVIVibes
Funny you can’t find anything on his “shooter”
SvenSkullhammer
Consider me surprised that the liar who lies about everything all the time lied again.
Elonth
Anyone who says him turning his head to the side and pointing wasn't the fire signal is a complete and absolute fucking moron.
Willk95
The only time he ever Freudian slips the truth is when he accuses others of his crimes. Remember “they’re sending rapists and muderers”? And guess what he has done
Shaodyn
He's a known con man with multiple convictions for fraud. To me, the amazing thing is that he managed to get anyone to believe him.
RibbleTPibits
gasp
Hippopotamuswhale
This was made up "asssssasination" to boost his voters. False flag operation after another and another. This is 100% same playbook hitler took and his "party". The shooter was also so bad that I cant belive it. He had perfect position and fucked all up and the thing nobody saw him...lol they lie so fucking lot that you cannot believe anything. this was made up attempt
Chilichunks
This one is getting old. He wasn't shot, no one is claiming he was shot except people who continue to purposely ignore information. The claim is he got nicked by debris. Superficial cuts can bleed a lot and heal with little to no scarring. Put this one to bed already.
Thorn655321
Trump is a bastard for sure but these conspiracy theories are kind of dumb.
KPodol
Imgur going full QAnon, but apparently because they're good guys they can't fall into conspiracy theories... 🤦
psstuphere
Sure are. It really undermines people actually fighting Trump
mithiwithi
So why DID Trump's ear not have any permanent damage from being hit by... well, we don't even know what it was that supposedly hit his ear, do we? Was it the bullet itself? A fragment from the teleprompter? Whatever it was, it didn't do any permanent damage to tissues that generally do not heal up to their original form when damaged.
loma45
It was the bullet - the teleprompter wasn't damaged https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/glass-from-teleprompter/
The reason there wasn't much damage to his ear is because the bullet nicked it. Like... .1mm contact? Maybe a little more / a little less? Enough to split skin and bleed, but not enough to blow a hole in it.
TeamToasterNeverForget
I know I may receive tons of downvotes but I believe he was grazed by a bullet.. sure the bandage afterwards was a piece of marketing but being grazed still hurt.. guy I know says it can feel like a bee sting.. not sure how he would know, he as never been shot or anything
PhailRaptor
The physics of being grazed by a bullet would have, at minimum, given him severe burns on the delicate skin of the ear. There's no trace of a scar from that, which there would be. The most plausible scenario based on the evidence is that he was struck by flying debris, which cut him.
TeamToasterNeverForget
Btw just to set the record straight: I hate this guy and I hope he has a stroke or an aneurysm but survives while suffering from heavy loss of bodily function.. that way he won’t become a martyr
TheMurderousCricket
I thought this was actually a Volkan.
powwerbottom
Vulcan 🖖🏼
Jaqdakloun
...Oezdemir?
mmontour
One ear was shot, one was lightly grazed. Both had an encounter with a real bullet. And no, I'm not taking Trump's word for it. There are photographs and other physical evidence showing it.
xcelita
Yeah I think a lot of blood would come out even from a small graze. If it was faked, then they would have chosen a fall guy who was antifa, not a disgruntled conservative.
ifixlasers42
This is so stupid. I don’t like Trump either but I’m not so naive to believe in some dumb conspiracy theory that it was faked. He really did get nicked in his ear, people really died at that rally. Was the government trying to take him out? I don’t think so, but that’s more plausible than the fake ear nonsense.
BellsTheorem
I highly doubt Trump had a ketchup packet at the ready just in case. I doubt even more that that the shooter was part of some false flag operation. That said, the bullet, or debris from the bullet impacting something, nicked his ear. Trump didn't "take a bullet" as he likes to claim. Trump peddles in hate so it's no surprise he attracts violent haters.
DMDaddy0
Thats my inclination as well. Either that or he was cut after getting tackled to the ground.
TrumpRapesChildren
Dude wasn't shot or hit with shrapnel. There was no shrapnel. Nothing else was hit with a round except for the guy in the crowd.
Cartilage doesn't heal well. At all. Notice how his old ass magically has NO scarring at all? None. Not even a little white line of scar tissue.
Shrapnel from the teleprompter was debunked. If he was in any true danger SS would have exfil'ed him asap, not let him get up with a back prop of the flag and pump his fist in the air.
BellsTheorem
You dont need cartilage damage to bleed like a stuck pig when taking blood thinners which his lard ass is probably on. My dad bled all over he households scratching a mosquito bite.
TrumpRapesChildren
A mosquito is not traveling at 2600 feet per second.
fzyflynint
The only one I saw that made sense was that he hit the holster on an agents hip. Thing is there is people filming behind him. Think of what that video would sell for? To either prove or disprove that he was shot and bleeding on the way down or not.
morrisdev1
my guess is there was a shot, the SS threw him to the ground, cutting his ear, and he got up claiming he was shot.
Niagaran
There wasn't a single drop of blood visible on him until he went down into the huddle with secret service and then popped up to pose for a photo. Had it been a real event, the SS would have dragged his ass out of there.
When Reagan got shot at, they *threw* him into a car and Ronnie had no say in the matter. Because *that* is their job.
ShieldAnvil1
This and more over he was a presidential candidate that was shot at, even if there was no blood that would still be a powerful rally cry for his cult, no need to lie to embellish it.
voodoofu
I figured he just caught his ear on a secret service person when he went down
etherbunny41
Regardless of anything else, a person in the crowd took a bullet. Someone shot at Trump with live rounds. The only reason they'd try to fake an assassination attempt with live rounds is if they were 100% fine with it accidentally being a real assassination.
There is enough skin on the ear for a bullet to have merely graze it, make it bleed, and not damage the cartilage. It is very unlikely, but it is possible.
JTechnopotheosis
Most likely he got hit by some broken glass from the teleprompter.
BellsTheorem
Occam's Razor says that it must be some Rube Goldberg level conspiracy involving dozens of people including someone who sacrificed their life to make it look convincing. /s.
ijustwonamathdebate
And coincidentally, the Secret Service just updated its guidelines. From now on, you can pop right back up after getting shot — as long as someone just lowered an American Flag into the frame in the background....
ijustwonamathdebate
(full disclosure: this was translated with ai)
BellsTheorem
The secret service selected by Donald Trump who is notorious for picking the most competent people for the job. /s
Bizarkly
Ironically, the guy who took that picture was employed by *The New York Times*...
ricpaul
This. I cannot fathom his SS detail being THAT incompetent. https://imgur.com/l6rgM3A.mp4
ijustwonamathdebate
Exactly.
BellsTheorem
They were hand picked by Trump. Yes they are likely THAT incompetent. Picked for looks and sycophantic loyalty alone. Just look at the rest of his dumbfuckery called and administration.
Slurming
Yeah i don't know why people need for this to be some conspiracy theory. He was hit with shrapnel. He bled.
BellsTheorem
And his own violent rhetoric invited it. That message is lost when people resort to conspiracy theory.
Slurming
Its from the right and the left as well. The left says it is a stunt to build him up. The right seems to think that there are people who dont like parts of his message trying to take him out. Sometimes. People. Act. Crazy. Its not hard to get a gun and do something like this if youre not worried about self preservation.
Notched120
Trump was not shot...
Kirk was an inside job, prove me wrong.
We have not heard a SINGLE fucking thing about Tyler Robinson since the shooting. MAGA has been quiet too.
rusrsdude
We also havent heard much about Luigi.. until recently when Pam Bondi talks about the death penalty.. there's just not much to report.. don't be all conspiracy theorist about everything, not every babystep is newsworthy.
maxpaxman
You should update Wikipedia.
Imalwaysready
So now the left is becoming as conspiracy driven as the right?
We truly are fucking lost.
BellsTheorem
Trump wasn't shot, his ear was nicked. Both were shot at by the type of hate they peddled in.
Niagaran
Trump's ear wasn't nicked, it was ketchuped.
idontlikebigreesescupguy
HouseOfEvil
Erika forgave Tyler so he's fine now.
ThisNameUnavailable
"Here are my wild conspiracy theories that I've provided 0 proof for. Now you guys prove me wrong!"
gablestout
That's because there's nothing interesting to report. He's been charged, and the lawyers are arguing in pre-trial motions (gag orders, media access, venue arguments, courtroom access, what evidence can be used, etc...) It's taking longer than normal because defense is contesting a lot and prosecutors have stated they will pursue the death penalty, which slows down and complicates the pre-trial process.
Preliminary hearing is scheduled for January, so expect him to be in the news, briefly, then.
doodlydoofus
You haven't heard anything about Tyler because he's not the golden ticket they wanted him to be. Everything would be leaked to the public by Patel, Hegseth and Trump had Tyler been a transgender radical leftist. But in reality, Tyler is just another horribly cringey right wing Groyper that killed Charlie because he thought Nick Fuentes would want him to. It's also why they dont want the trial publicized because that info would be revealed to the world.
johnhatten2
I think the guy who shut trump hit his teleprompter, trump just received a bit of glass
ThedawningofWankershim
This is my standing theory as well. A camera angle from below spins around and yoy can see the teleprompter has its corner shattered
idontlikebigreesescupguy
Where all the video footage of Charlie getting shot? Couple videos from weird angles?!.
Didn’t they broadcasted it Live front camera view, or hundreds of people is the audience holding their smartphones/cameras?!? Where all that footage?
SarcasticComment
Seeing all the shit I've heard the MAGA crowd say about "the Jews killing Jesus", you'd think they be upset over the guy who took a shot at their savior.
Heisanevilgenius
They're not saying anything because Trump isn't saying anything. And yeah, that's funny that Trump isn't frothing at the mouth about someone who shot him, when he'll go into a nuclear meltdown over someone saying Tyler is right-wing
SarcasticComment
it's curious how he'll cry about how. reporter spoke to him for days but moved past getting shot at.
Trunkmonkay
Me when I'm borderline schizophrenic and I have to make shit up because reality is too hard to cope with.
SavageDrums
They tried to make him trans, failed, and just sort of shut up about him since.
Elonth
I only heard them calling him a trans sympathizer. Did some try to spin it as he himself was also trans?
swofromtherock
Who is Tyler Robinson?
PineappleLoopsBroether
Exactly
unluckyandbored
The guy who (allegedly) murdered Charlie Kirk.
swofromtherock
Why would we hear anything else about him?
JanglesPrime
Because when Republicans want to talk about someone they never shut up when they think it is politically advantageous. We had to listen for years all about Hunter Biden, his work, his persona life, everything they could get ahold of, only for nothing to happen. But they have a suspect in custody for the murder of Charlie Kirk and everyone just forgot about the whole think a month later.
swofromtherock
Correct, in custody. If Hunter were held accountable for his crimes you wouldn't have heard anything else about that either.
Also, most people only care about what the media (i.e. a billionaire) want them to care about.
KPodol
1) We know that from day 1, the guy who got shot was a fireman who died.
2) We're not hearing about Robinson because he's a groyper, you don't build a false flag attack with that, what interest is there to get Kirk killed ? He was actually the biggest influence for right wingers, he may have been a neo-nazi but he was good at public speeches, not matter how false they were (truth has never mattered when relying on the 'pathos') nobody has taken over and the movement is slowly collapsing.
Cthulhuchooseyou
Vance and Erika
AShartInTheWind
Kirk was likely offed because he was beginning to question Israel, the GOP needed a new distraction, and he would serve as a good martyr for the right-wing movement. They also chose to use a groyper who had some kind of connection to those their base would view as "the other." So they could try to blame it on trans people or "the left."
prolorus
Sure was odd how JD Vance kissed Kirk’s widow and she tangled her fingers in his hair mid-kiss
KPodol
Or maybe the infighting, which is a natural part of fascist movements as we've seen with nazism and other as you can't have united groups, as they would risk banding up against the leader, got him killed. Something which have been studied. But who knows.
AShartInTheWind
Exactly, fascism has been historically rife with false flags.
Deleteded
Just to play devil's advocate, Kirk was influential in life, but way more influential in death.
loma45
Eh, that'd be a terrible plan. Martydom is temporary, Kirk will fade from view (and he was killed more than a year from a relevant election). On the flip side, Kirk was one of the Right's most effective talking heads with young people - a key demographic they struggle with. He was much more valuable alive than dead.
KPodol
Granted i don't follow neo-nazi bubble closely, but i've yet to see how. His influence over white men greatly helped Trump get elected imo. The only thing i hear is the movement eroding as we're seeing with MAGAts congress people even starting to consider resigning. His influence on the internet was evident though.
Deleteded
I vaguely knew of him before he died, I've heard about him nonstop since he was shot. His funeral was a major media event, he was made into a conservative martyr. I've also heard that his organization has grown faster than ever after he was killed.
KPodol
I follow politics, i constantly heard of him, i practically never hear about him anymore except from people from here making posts about him. We'll have to see in the long run because short burst always happen after someone's death, we'll see after a year where it really stand, in the meantime there's still no one to keep it going, they're all incompetent.
delecti
His death made his name mainstream, but that isn't spreading his propaganda along with it. His organization was one of the main groups responsible for bussing people to the capital on Jan 6, he was *very* influential in life, just not widely known for it.