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It's all about #crime
Jun 28, 2022 11:01 PM
rockyandchloe
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It's all about #crime
GorillaPilot
I wonder how they picked to see who would be his body guards for life.
fartharder
Rich people know laws don't apply to them.
varonicaED
The President doesn't have the power to order a person to break the law, if you do so at his behest it's because you wanted to anyway!
GiantFlyingLabia
Contrary to what Trump and his people think, the Secret Service’s mission cannot be changed on a whim by the President.
chefsoda
Trump tried to refuse SS protection & demanded his personal bodyguards, because he said “I need them to do what I tell them”
newsguycraigevans
It's USSS for obvious reasons.
boop66
Most ordinary people swept up into the Nazi movement were “just following orders.”
MatthewBecker
Secret service dont exist to be the personal aid of the president.
spiffylookingnerfherder
"Better replace the SS with DHS then!" (/MAGAT)
surroundedbytwits
President Twunt
rdewalt
Their job is to keep the president -safe- not to keep him -happy-.
Howlingowl
The President does not have the authority to order anyone to do anything. The Republicans need to stop viewing Trump as a dictator
trippingthelightfantastic
bourbonandbaddecisions
If the order in unlawful you have a duty to disobey it.
Eileen3402
A direct order by the President to let armed people into the emotional mass was ignored? Yeah, sack someone for that.
FunkyButttlovin
My boss was secret service and says they are bound by oath to protect the president even from himself
CrazyCatDaddy
There’s an oath we take. In the military that states to obey “lawful orders”. I’m sure they take a similar oath.
reginageorge1
Too bad they didn’t just take him out and do us all a favor
darkwing42101
Turley representing Area 51 workers against the government in the 90s seems to have been his high point since he's been an idiot ever since.
brrrackobama
The secret service detail can and does, often, tell the president what to do.
ditbujin
If there's any possibility of risk to the president the secret service go to one of their protocols. The president is then just a passenger.
th3guy
“Protectee” but yeah.
MarkySpaceMagnet
Not even just a passenger, more just a package to protect at any cost.
KuldFyt
Honestly I am a little bit surprised that crimes were happening and the secret service wasn't at least a bit into it...
CaldariBob
No hookers this time. Or at least, no hookers for them.
sognante
This….this was their biggest takeaway from todays hearings?!
Skywatcher16
well anything else makes their master the bad guy, so of course the butt boys gonna close ranks and ignore the meat and potatoes of it
xmaneds
Trump: "Get in, Loser; we're going Criming" ... Secret Service: "ummmm... how about 'NO'; does NO work for you?"
exbenedict
Secret service job is to protect the president, not obey him. It’s like medical doctors being able to override superiors in the military
th3guy
They don’t report to him and aren’t under D.o.D. so they can’t be issued “orders”.
exbenedict
It’s a simile, not an exact situational analogy.
OmEqualsMC2
These people seem to think POTUS means you get to order anyone & everyone around, & all Americans are subordinate to your orders. Unreal.
ElecTech
Didn't Nixon's subordinates keep the nuclear "button" away from him in the final hours of his presidency?
fortfantastic
tbf the federal government is there to serve the country and the people not the president
CaldariBob
Evidently, yes: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/11/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-richard-nixon-215478/
darkwing42101
I heard a rumor that NSC sent a memo to all military bases to not accept any Nuclear orders from Nixon in the week before he resigned.
ToasterDent
Nixon 6 days before leaving office:
darkwing42101
Can't confirm definitively but some Military have said they did receive the notice.
Roqinn
The Secret Service knew there were weapons there, so they could not put the president in danger. Doing the job they are hired for!
dudehiemer
The secret service assigned to protect the POTUS are there to protect the POTUS, not do his bidding.
th3guy
That’s the fun thing people miss, they actually don’t report to him in any capacity. They’re security for the office & position. Full stop.
dudehiemer
gidgit12345101
The Secret Service works for Treasury. The president is not their boss.
sesamesnapsinhalf
That was before 2003. It now reports to DHS.
gidgit12345101
Ahh. Thanks.
th3guy
True, but they still do not report to POTUS, serve exclusively in a protective capacity, and aren’t even under DOD so POTUS isn’t commander.
th3guy
POTUS would have to request Secretary of DHS to authorize it, who would then have to request it from Director of the Secret Service.
th3guy
Which, again, are not military so there’s no “order” here. It’s all asking/requesting. POTUS can fire the Secretary but that doesn’t change
foreverinchains
The Secret Service isn't a private army or just a bunch of subordinates. When it's time for them to do their job, the president has no say.
algavinn
Yeah people don't seem to understand their actual role. It pissed Bush junior off on 911 because he was forced away from the action.
astrangehop
Aren't they some weird division of the Treasury?
Horsenippleking
They used to be. They were moved to homeland security in 2003
fortfantastic
get down mr president is an order after all. not a request
MadCat221
Yep. They are there to secure the President, not obey the President.
Bhargo
so I actually know a guy who was in the running to be in secret service, apparently they are told in a dangerous situation they should--
Bhargo
get the president out to safety even if he tries to fight back, like pick his ass up and carry him out if you have to.
Welverein
Correct. If they get a code phrase like marching order, POTUS becomes a packet to deliver as unarmed as possible.
glitchead
SECURE. CONTAIN. PROTECT.
Trajan98
Ahhh, he thought they were Praetorians. Common mistake.
ninjax247
Uhhhhhhh, you may want to re-examine the history of the praetorian guard and their loyalty to the sitting emperor.
Trajan98
If any President in U.S. history would promise a generous donative to his guard to ensure loyalty, it would be him. Considering how much /
Trajan98
cash he had already received from his base to "fight voter fraud" I don't have any trouble believing that check would have cleared.
KingMagenta
If security guards listen to the person they are protecting, they prefer to have the money upfront.
lucindamarie18
Knowing full well that they wouldn't have gotten paid.
Rip42
Gonna assume following an order from the president to take him to the front of an armed insurrection so he could lead it, would be illegal.
DerbyDad03
Gonna assume that that wasn't the reason they didn't take him.
th3guy
They didn’t take him because they couldn’t secure the scene and his safety, not because his actions would’ve been illegal.
dnsbubba
The President has no authority to put his own life at risk.
barnwolf
Source?
PutItInNeutral
He also is not allowed in the Capitol Building by law without the express invitation of The Speaker of the House.
TrueNorthernLights
Really? I did not know this.
HeirElfSquire
Imma read that over and over and over
dynskeet
Then why didn't he have someone chew his food for him? Anything harder than toothpaste seems risky for that fuckclown.
Cassian
Someone hasn't watched Independence Day
ShitpostsAndLotsOfThem
And the entire government. The entire line of succession was certifying the election. He was the designated survivor.
confanity
Trump only ran in the first place because of a widespread misconception that the president is essentially a dictator.
jonlememe
He was safe and he knew it, cos they were his insurrectionists.
PandAnomoly
The secret service have no rule requiring them to obey the president. The prez, however, must listen to the secret service
Willowknowsall
When your job is babysitting a giant old ass baby...
hotdudecurator
Must? Maybe "required but no consequences if he does not"? If his life is in immediate danger, they'll forcibly remove him. That's about it.
TheAnswerIsViolence
Roosevelt continued a speech after being shot.
Enginerrrrrrrrr
Are you suggesting that the way the secret service operates has somehow changed in 200 years? They don't have open top limos either
Archeron
Anymore.
foreverinchains
Enginerrrrrrrrr
I'm glad you found the point of my comment
SentientSpork
Not since the incident.
Rainbowdaesh
He was not president at the time.
Rip42
William henry harrison would like a word.
HeirElfSquire
Didn't have sick leave yet.
TheAnswerIsViolence
Fair enough. Makes sense