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BREAKING: 2 planes, including a B-17
Flying Fortress, collide at Dallas airshow more here: https://www.wfaa.com/amp/article/news/local/dallas-plane-crash-dallas-executive-airport-rbd/287-1d54f7a6-05ad-40ee-a02b-961874c52bea
rijstewafels
Man that sucks
chaosundivided
visions of Ramstein 1988. tragic. condolences
MamaCharLee
At least it was quick. My husband was fortunate enough to get to ride a B-17, but a week later, that same plane crashed and killed everyone.
4vie
Not saying he's a black cat...
Polymathena
RIP captains and crew.
LHogan32
Ilikestyx
Holy shit
SnarfyMcSnarferson
Okay I think it's lo g past time to stop flying IRREPLACEABLE WW2 AIRPLANES!
Randazzo
Particularly when crewed with irreplaceable lives.
bigdix69420
Sad
FrozenSTi
what a tragedy
seldombeaton
Pickup should have parked properly in their spot, pilot would not have been distracted...
EpicMeme
That is so fucking awful.
guiltyalias
You can see from this angle how the pilot of the P63 could not see the bomber as it was in its blind spot. Tragic.
Treblaine
How the hell could this happen? Another air-show disaster, I really wish we were past the point of these sorts of things still happening.
cbale2000
Given the number of airshows and flight time, accidents are still EXTREMELY uncommon. The internet just makes them a lot more visible now.
Treblaine
That number of air-show flights is far smaller than all commercial aviation, and in 2017 not a single passenger jet crashed.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Damn, that really sucks!
spazztastic
A fucking B-17! dude why does this keep happening? ATC? ATC?
Sparks85
Atc does nothing in these situations but block non participating aircraft from the designated zone
YonderPeachTree
nopenopenope there was a crash like this years ago and my pal was there it was horrific
CouldntCakeLess
That’s dire.
pistacher
crazy
BovineLeader
Oomph, sad and scary
DonkeyGoat
Holy shit
conklin5
You can see the moment that woman's perception turned from surreal to too real.
ka1iban
That woman looks like a kid.
OctopusStinkhorn
It’s a big truck
iDrawStuff
Not sure why you're being downvoted - she *does* look like a kid.
SubtleOrc
Thankfully the terror for the crew was short. RIP
4vie
One can only hope it was a big surprise for the crew.
freckledkink
Or they didn't have time to process it.
MerryXMan
It seems to fall so slowly, I’m sure it felt like a lifetime for the pilot.
circlebreaker
Momentary panic, then nothing. Kind of like a catastrophic injury to a pedestrian from a car collision, gone before you hit the ground. RIP.
netutoring
.....what the absolute.....what was the fighter doing?
4vie
Looks like he was in mid-manouvre and didn't notice anything to even begin reacting to anything.
netutoring
With that era of aircraft, is this kind of showing off unwise (you kinda sound like you might know stuff)?
4vie
I wouldn't know, I'm mostly guessing.... We'll never know for real, but a somewhat measured guess is that the B-17 might have been higher
4vie
up than expected, or moving faster than the Kingcobra pilot expected. The Kingcobra wiggles slightly, I don't know if that means anything.
TacoFox
NotaCPA
wings full of fuel.....
KuroNeko00
Rough for those kids. They just saw a bunch of people die.
drunkill
No kid, it wasn't meant to happen.
Taalii
Excuse me WHAT? We lost the b17 flying museum? When, where, this is the first I heard of it. That’s horrible
taralanth
Happened today in Dallas 11/12/2022
soulmercenary
That’s depressing. Pilots and crew of the bomber never had a chance.
4vie
One can only hope things happened a little too fast for them to react, or even register. "Only" saving grace...
PballQhead
The forward fuselage of the B-17 was unharmed; the waist gunners got wiped, but anyone up front had a few absolutely unimaginable seconds.
AndyYouGoonie
Yeah was thinking this. Anyone forward of the waist guns had time to see it coming sadly.
Pishposhbingbong
What’s the word on the fighter pilot? I’m not sure but the fuselage of it doesn’t seem to explode when it hits ground.
maddeninglemon
People don't really survive crashes like that; unless he ejected before this clip I'd put his odds at much worse than winning the lottery.
thegrimreaver
Given how hard it collided with the bomber, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dead before he even hit the ground.
Pishposhbingbong
Yeah. I’d expect you’re right. Just clutching at straws.
AndyYouGoonie
All six dead. 5 on the B17 (crew, no customers) and the pilot of the P63
friarRat
What the fuck was he thinkin'?
circlebreaker
Likely either equipment failure or medical distress. Just about the worst time for either to happen.
netutoring
Would suggesting that perhaps air shows need a major rethink be uncalled for? There's been a few major incidents lately.
phuzz00
Notice how the wreckage all landed on the runway, a long way from the crowd. That was a deliberate safety measure that worked.
Calise425
Yeah while they're cool, I think they're an expensive use of resources and dangerous. Extremely tragic
FuzzyX
The issue with this crash is some flight plan violation when shows are mapped out to avoid close aerial displays.
timbit1000
The problem is these groups that seem like they're cosplaying as professionals.
aneyeholeman
The P63 was piloted by a United Captain with a TON of experience. It looks like he probably just made a very bad error at a very bad time
timbit1000
Flying a passenger jet and a fighter plane are totally different skillsets. How often could he even fly the P63 to get practice?
WickedSludge
Tragic loss of life. Tragic loss of aircraft.
EpicMeme
Was looking for words, you found them.
3RsReadingRitingRithmatic
Saw it and thought the same. Unless a miracle happened, that's a sad group of deaths. After that thought, the history, evaporated.
JStengah
Who cares about the aircraft? The tragic loss was the lives.
BatsArentBugs
Since you asked, the B52 is arguably the most culturally significant American plane that is discontinued and still in service.
BatsArentBugs
I personally don’t give a shit about the aircraft, but I understand it is very important to others, and that is important to me.
Housemaster
WickedSludge
It can be both
JStengah
It's not though. When people die in a car crash no one says "tragic loss of a car". No one will be mourning the aircraft.
armagetz
If there is a classic car involved, sure people do.
CaptainInvictus
if a horrific crash involving a model T & another important automotive relic killed everyone involved in a horrific fireball, yes they would
saeheria
I mourn the aircraft, we ain’t just gonna conjure up another B-17
loma45
This is more like a museum burning down, killing a few people. The people are more important, but the aircraft are still significant.
Myrddin251
I just want to chime in that the men who died dedicated a lot of their time to these aircraft. You don't just casually fly these things or
Myrddin251
or learn to fly them unless you have a passion for the history of these aircraft. I would in fact say that you are disrespectful to those
WickedSludge
These were historically significant aircraft that took hundreds if not thousands of man hours to restore to airworthy condition. It's tragic
JStengah
No, the deaths are tragic. The planes are inconsequential compared to them.
procrastinatingagain
That's really sad.
armagetz
I actually feel more sad about the loss of historic airframes than life due to negligence
torp
Nothing tells it's negligence.
armagetz
It’s not a Blue Angels show. You don’t do dramatic maneuvers on a whim.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Describe what makes you this way… Do you have aspergers? Did your mother spit in your mouth every day? Are you from Finland? What happened??
torp
So you already know that it is not a material problem (on an 80 years old equipment)? That it is not a health problem ? That it is not
wiltsjunk
Well, that's because you're an asshole.
BatsArentBugs
My three year old sociopath has more empathy than you. Get wrecked fucker.
camn333
BondHaimBond
Have you visited a plane graveyard? Bring flowers.
MagicalHorseOwl
Fuck the historic airframe, I'd take the people any goddamn time. What a shit take.
armagetz
Even nazis, got it. Or should I regard your take as I’ll considered reactionary?
MagicalHorseOwl
Are you comparing the crew of a B-17 to nazis? Is this really where we are at now?
armagetz
No. But you said, in all moral righteousness, “anyone” in spite of knowing nothing about them.
TrustMeImKindOfADoctor
What an absolutely barbaric, asinine take.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Seriously… our population of utter sociopaths gotten so unruly they just announce themselves like it’s no big deal now.
armagetz
Individual tragedy aside, on the broad scale those lives, while regrettable and pointlessly spent, are replaceable. History isn’t.
onepinksheep
StewedTomaters
We replace history every fucking second. It's only fools like you that attach a near-religious, artificial worth to symbols and bits of
StewedTomaters
matter, and let your judgment be clouded by nostalgia to the point where you forget that you're a part of humanity. You saw that crash
waeraj
Speedmetal05
No human life is replaceable, you stupid moron.
armagetz
For the record, stewedtomatoers just mutes anyone he doesn’t like, regardless of different perspective, civility, or no insults given.
armagetz
We do t “replace” history every second. We just replace History most meaningful to current generation. Entirely diff thing.
onepinksheep
ClaudeKenny
There was no civility in your comments. Your "perspective" is that plastic, metal, and cloth is more important than human life. Disgusting.