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There was a terror attack in Stockholm today. Something I honestly never thought would happen. We're cautious, friendly and accepting people. Like, wtf?!
A truck went into a crowd at high speed. Three people are confirmed dead. I know very little else atm.
I live in Gothenburg, however about two hours before the attack, I sent my son to his dad for the monthly visit. And he lives in Stockholm... Turns out, they're only a few hundred yards from where the truck rammed into Åhlens. I'm so scared for my son's life right now.
Downvote if you want, I just needed to vent.
Edit:
- There was no gunfire.
- My son is safe now, away from the city centre.
ConfectionsOfADangerousMind
Fellow Swede here. No gunfire has been confirmed. Also, from the public's point of view, we have no real indication of it actually being 1/2
KrustyPartiallyGelatinatedNonDairyGumBasedBeverage
*Gunfire unconfirmed, AFAIK
NabyArmeDrommel
Hateful radicals don't care how friendly and accepting you may be.They have one goal in mind. Terror on behalf of a religious interpretation
ROBROR87
It happened because you're friendly and accepting. Get used to it unfortunately.
hanksy
There was no gunfire. Please stop spreading this rumour and edit the post. Tack.
frostman233
Terrorists don't give a shit how nice people are
anonnona887
Well...if you haven't noticed already terrorists and bad guys most of the time attack peaceful areas and places where nobody can defend it
flaccidhope
But yeah, they attack peaceful civilian centres in Pakistan & Afghanistan and elsewhere in revenge for their governments killing terrorists.
flaccidhope
Ackchyually, most terrorist attacks take place in or near war zones such as Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. We're kind of lucky in Europe.
anonnona887
That's not a terrorist attack then is it. An terrorist attack is based on attacking civilian oriented places. In war it's simply war or
anonnona887
Battle casualties, skirmishes and firefights.
flaccidhope
Um, no read up on Afghanistan and Pakistan attacks. Schools, Mosques, Shrines, busy markets, police stations, anywhere people gather!
zzzaped
NO GUN FIRE AS OF THE LATEST REPORT ONLY THE TRUCK. Hur är det med din son, har det gått bra?
dekket
Ja han är okej. Lite skakad verkar det som, men borta från innerstan iaf. Vill bara ha hem honom nu :-/
zzzaped
Skönt att höra. Ta hand om er.
IamJustinSane
Who the fuck attacks Sweden? That's like sucker punching the guy at work that greets you every morning with a smile and a donut... klenät.
Halikarz
Maybe that's the point. No one is safe from this shit
Paranoidsoldier
I cannot believe you're surprised this happend.
Fjellsmell
the gun fire happened??? what gunfire. cant find any news saying gunfire?
CritterJoe
No need, they can free roam with trucks. Just like carmagedon predicted, all we can do is say "refugees welcome".
eykompis
There was unconfirmed rumours about gunfire, but the Swedish Police dismissed them.
Fjellsmell
that is what i had read to. unconfirmed stories. foreign news leaping to conclusion
eykompis
Neither strange or surprising, although can be a nuisance.
jeejeejerrycotton
HOW DOES A GUN EVEN CATCH FIRE IT'S MADE OUT OF STEEL?!?!?!?
dekket
Really? I've heard it on P3 news.
Fjellsmell
it was the truck. no shootings.
PuppyLord
The unconfirmed shots were reported around Fridhemsplan.
Biteymcbiteface
I work 5 min (walking distance) from it all. There where no guns. Just rumors and people staying safe rather than sorry.
dekket
Ah ok good to know.
snellman
This is a Swedish trusted news service reporting In English. https://www.svd.se/in-english-this-is-what-we-know/om/sverige
Mrbright25
Is your son ok?
Buran
No gunfire, confirmed by the police.
swedishmetalhead
but there was no gunfire.
SometimesILikeToLieOnTheGroundLikeACarrot
Be careful when it comes to rumour spreading. There hasn't been any confirmed gun shots. Always look up your sources
BarrelLemon
Nor was The explosion at the central.
dekket
My source was a reputable radio channel. But yea, that was rectified later.
Monstache
I honestly don't trust any source except the actual investigators in the matter atm. Every news outlet is covering unconfirmed speculations.
Monstache
And that makes me sad for Swedish media. I thought our media was better than journalists talking rumors and wild speculation.
dekket
They are not, unfortunately. They haven't been for over a decade. They clickbait the fuck out of everything. Sadly, it's the only way for >
dekket
> them to make a living these days.
Compendyum
Specially the ones denying the obvious.
PuppyLord
Agreed! In this case the sources was the press though and the police interviewed on the radio was like WTF. Media should be more responsible
SometimesILikeToLieOnTheGroundLikeACarrot
Actually, a lot of the large medias in Sweden had a "This is known"-section where there were no gun shots. 1/
SometimesILikeToLieOnTheGroundLikeACarrot
Medias are thus responsible. It's up to the individuals to make sure they don't look at tabloid stuff who thrive on rumour spreading. 2/
Monstache
Nor is there any indication of being a terror attack so far. No organisation has taken responsibility. Only one man whos motive is unclear.
taco1910
Did somebody terrorize people? Yes. Are they with an affiliated group? Not known.
Semirani
I mean, an organization doesn't have to be involved for it to be considered a terror attack.
NikoLorenzio
By definition a terrorist attack is carried out to reach a political goal. Lacking that it's just a random nutcase.
Semirani
A single man attacking people to try an attain a goal is still terrorism, no organization needed.
immortalbucket
justtryingtohitthefrontpage
Sweden let in a bunch of muslims who hate western culture, wtf did you expect....
Azriel616
I'm 16, I live outside Stockholm, but go to school here. I was there 4 minutes after the crash... I tried going home, then, saw so many cry
LTGDuke
4 dead and at least 15 hurt, 9 of them critical.. One of them a child.
Mormole
Vi kan inte stänga ner ett land för att fyra pers dött. Helt hemskt att det hände, men då spelar vi terroristerna helt enligt deras plan.
TankingFever
Det är sant. Om man börjar stänga sig in i stängsel och stacket, vinner dom som vill öka våld och osäkerhet.
dekket
Såklart.
Rugbyistheonlytruesport
HitlerReborn
"that's what terrorists want you to do!" is such a fucking non-argument. Shut up.
Mormole
The biggest reason people commit terroristic acts is to scare people so why is it not a relevant argument?
JohnnyTitelips
That's not the biggest reason.
Mormole
What is then?
JohnnyTitelips
Religious martyrdom. They don't care who's afraid as long as they die in the name of Islam.
dekket
Yes it is, actually. Do some research into the goals of ISIS.
JohnnyTitelips
No, it's not, actually. They want to die in service of Islam. Who is afraid is of secondary importance.
phreak1986
Klart vi ska stoppa inflödet av alla ekonomiska migranter och istället hjälpa i närområdet! Hjälper många fler och förstör inte vår välfärd
JohnnyTitelips
I partially agree with you. The trouble is that Swedish people are not having babies. If you don't import people, there won't be (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
enough of the increasingly fewer young to support the old. So, if you won't reproduce, perhaps import people from places other than Mid East
TankingFever
Du har rätt om ekonomiska migranter men man måste ändå hjälpa dom som verkligen behöver nöd.
TankingFever
Ingen politiker vill bara investera sin tid i ett sånt tidskrävande projekt som skulle resultera i ett fungerande utrednings system.
phreak1986
Det gör men bäst i närområdet, all hjälp i Sverige kostar så sjukt mkt mer..
PizzaGovorun
Fuck it! I am taking my family to Sweden my next vacation. Don't let fuckers win!
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CondescendingCunt
Edification："They" being the far right dimwits over at Stormfront and Breitbart with zero critical thinking and rational reasoning faculties
GeneralPigly
CondescendingCunt
I never claimed that it wasn't a Muslim terrorist? Militant fundamentalist Islamist terrorist would be a more apt descriptor, however. (1/2)
CondescendingCunt
(2/2) However, what I was criticizing was the claim of Sweden being a rape capitol which is intellectually dishonest far-right propaganda.
EverythingWittyAlreadyTaken
It was going to happen sooner or later, Sweden has more citizens in Syria etc fighting jihad than any other western nation so far as I know.
probshouldntsayitbut
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-terror-recruiting-europe-belgium-france-denmark-sweden-germany/
Automatvapen
Everyone seems to forget the suicide bomber back in 2011.
Pisshund
? No we don't. That's just you making up a fact or being misinformed. Sorry
kajagu
Gothenburg alone has more returning jihadists than the all of the US. Open your eyes.
TheHellbilly
I remember reading that per capita Finland has the most. About 80 people so far from a country of 5m.
goldensmitty9
"Something I honestly never thought would happen" do you live in reality?
dekket
Yes. However I've never seen Sweden as a potential target because it doesn't make sense. Ofc terrorism doesn't in general I suppose.
aStrangerVoid
You know there was a failed attack in 2010 right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Stockholm_bombings
NotPopular
Because if they are muslims, every Sweden will always be non believer to them. You can't possibly be this blue-eyed.
LearnSomething
Any successful, westernized country is a target to these ideals. That is exactly why America is hated so much by radical Islam. It stands
LearnSomething
for everything they see as bad in the world.
ceightn
You retards even had a riot less than a month ago, how was this a surprise?
misstell
What riot?
dekket
Good Q. I have no idea what riot he's talking about.
ImNotANecrophiliacImJustNostalgic
the Båwling Grinn riot, obviously
goldensmitty9
If Muslims with 3rd world Muslim values are there, there is a good chance of terrorism.
reineseele
Don't let terrorism win. Don't give them a plattform. Honor the dead. Ignore idiots. Can you change anything else? Talk to your community.
watev322228
Yes if we ignore the inbred cultists they will get bored and go away. Close your eyes and open borders! SWEDEN YES!
bbqribs
Ignore the idiots? Are you crazy. Inaction will not stop future attacks. Thoughtful and aggressive steps must be made immediately.
filurilurl
I live in Luleå. Our local night club cancelled this night's event because of this; we're >700km away. The fuck?: don't let them win.
Jusmar
Terrorism won when the patriot act passed
vanbarbee
Right on. This guy's got the right idea.
CritterJoe
yep, buy crayons and paint on sidewalk or trash place where terrorist died... way to go, Im going to stockpile now!
turdf
Solid, practical advice!
MonsieurLeMoustache
Yeah give them flowers, kisses and good words. While i load my rifle.
vulgarjack
Every drone strike that kills civilians creates even more terrorists. War between the west and radical islam is what they want.
Zellacat
This started long before there were drones, or the US for that matter.
sexymeetzey
No, every Imam with twisted ideology creates more terrorists, the drone strike are just tinder for the fire.
smoothoprater
Care to remind us at what point Sweden got involved in drone strikes?
MonsieurLeMoustache
i don't know why you got downvoted, you got the point.
smoothoprater
Cognitive dissonance. They know I'm right but still don't like the idea which goes against their narrative, so they resent and downvote
TheOilyHand
Thanks Obama
VerbalSpaghetti
in the mean time lets bring in more uneducated middle easterners so love can win right? show em how much we care
JumpedtheGun
Let's hope Trump doesn't end up getting one of those travel bans passed. I think we should be welcoming refugees. This is America.
VerbalSpaghetti
no this is europe, sweden isn't a USA state. look how well these refugees are treating their gracious host.
vulgarjack
Yeah! bring on the people who are the VICTIMS of the EXACT SAME TERRORISTS
Fredfinks
The spread of islam is the win for them. Sweden doubled down on poor immigration policy & its reaping what it sows.
Seanspeed
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/closer-look-killing-fields-sweden Please get informed.
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waffleincubator
Basically, muslims who fled, fled from crap like this. This proves that the Syrian conflict is not only their problem but ours as well.
FuckingInflatableFuckingCrown
Where did you get homophobe from?
Dredmor
His ass? Checked Fred's downvoted history, there's a lot about Islam, Trump, toy dogs, and fat folks. Must have missed comments about gays.
PieluverCaolan
Islam is not a race
MonsieurLeMoustache
Fredfinks
Are you describing mohammed?
ElPoloDiablo
That's not their goal though. Their goal is for those Muslims to be attacked by western governments so that they can be recruited.
HitlerReborn
Why are so many parroting this false statement?
VerbalSpaghetti
their goal is to conquer the world for islam
ElPoloDiablo
Sure, and how do you think running over a few people furthers that?
VerbalSpaghetti
killing non-believers. i believe he killed 4 people now that was just 1 guy. london 2 weeks ago killed 12. Paris attackers killed hundreds
VerbalSpaghetti
basically my point is that these attacks are only one part of the threat of the islamisation of europe. 6/?
VerbalSpaghetti
or they will have a significant population that will effect their democracy. 5/?
VerbalSpaghetti
20% of newborns in france are muslim now. by the end of this century or next france will be an islamic country. 4/?
VerbalSpaghetti
inspired more truck attacks to attack people in europe. alongside of their fear campaign they are winning with demographics. 3/?
VerbalSpaghetti
a couple of attackers have killed hundreds in europe over this past 2 years. since their "success" in nice it's inspired more 2/?
VerbalSpaghetti
wouldn't have this problem if the west didn't bring uneducated muslims over here in the first place
BatBruce
You mean if the west didn't ruin their countries and force people to flee.
VerbalSpaghetti
if they don't like the west so much they can throw away all western technology, medicine, and money. if thats what ruined them so much
VerbalSpaghetti
sweden attacked syria now? for a country that's been neutral since 1812 i am shocked! those countries have always been bad. 1/?
eykompis
Honestly, you didn't think this would happened sooner or later? I'm actually surprised we didn't have an attack earlier due to how open we
misstell
Well, tbh we did have an attack (or "attack") before in 2010, only the guy managed to kill only himself.
eykompis
Yeah, unfortunately easy to forget since he thankfully only managed to kill himself.
JesusTaliban
You do not remember the 2010 bomber at almost the same place? The bomb failed and only killed the terrorist, just luck that no innocent died
eykompis
Well, that guy goes by me sometimes because how unsuccessful he was. (Fortunately)
smoothoprater
If you follow the explanations from the regressive left, this shouldn't have happened. Sweden is not a war not involved in any conflict with
smoothoprater
muslim majority countries, it has no colonial history in muslim countries, it's been accepting muslim refugees en masse.Sweden is the poster
smoothoprater
child of tolerance and they still get shit. I'm curious to see how Chomsky and the likes will justify this...
eykompis
are and how easy it's to use that against us.
DasZebra
Sweden have been to naive. I saw the chaos first hand and it whasnt pretty.
KrustyPartiallyGelatinatedNonDairyGumBasedBeverage
I don't think it's about how open you are. The majority of these attackers are "home-grown", and how can you stop a truck attack?
swedishmaniac
Exactly. It's really fucking hard to prevent someone from stealing a truck and minutes later drive it through a crowd.
bloodyhellmatelike
Exactly. My god the fucking xenophobia in this site. Less than a hundred years from the last world war... it hurts.
KrustyPartiallyGelatinatedNonDairyGumBasedBeverage
The xenophobia and general intolerance of comments recently has been pretty appalling
Hybris51129
Imgur is going through acute xenophobia at the moment. Unless there is some sort of site wide demographics shift most of the people here (1)
swedishmaniac
Yeah, I think this is it for me on this site, people are racist as fuck. Also ignorant. It's turning into youtube-comment-section cancer.
ThePrimeMagus
You're an idiot, and now isn't the time to deal with this childish nonsense.
mcmoto
You're an idiot, stop putting your head in the sand.
eykompis
Would you care to elaborate to why you think I'm an idiot and my post was childish nonsense?
misterbookman
Because "diversity" and embracing everyone to uphold my own level of enlightened ideals despite clearly being against them! That's why! /s
TheSlavViking
this is EXACTLY the time to deal with this shit, we need to stop pretending like everything is fine with Islam, there are real problems that
TheSlavViking
we need to deal with NOW! we cant just keep ignoring this and pretending like things like this have not become common in Europe.
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
Yes, go deal with them. "Dealing with them" is exactly how this whole thing started. It's why you have refugees, and why they're pissed
Zellacat
So the Middle East was always peaceful before? Islam dosen't want world domination? Refugees aren't an invasion that forever expands Islam?
JudgeMentalCat
They haven't even confirmed the identity of the attacker.
JudgeMentalCat
And yet here y'all are, assuming shit, spouting xenophobia
sakiii
@OP Det kommer gå bra. Vi kommer vinna över skiten. Terror will fail, it came to the wrong neighbourhood! /Kram
goombay
Flem frak vi frikity frak
NotoriousBadassWhoLovesMusicals
Kram from Finland
kafuna
De bedste tanker fra Danmark! Vi må stå sammen som brødre og søstre når terroren rammer vores skandinaviske union
wenturi
Few flag filters on FB and some lit up buildings will show those bastards whos the boss!
Kreia
Kram
zethlington
Gun shots were apparently fake news. But everything else is very much true. Stay strong!
shankelstoff
Alternative news
FabulousButtStallion
Kram fra Danmark
cmeck
Åt helvete med terrorism. Solidariteten kommer vinna. Hjälp varandra
MyImgurBroke
Uhh... Donde, esta, la bibilioteca. Me Ilammo T-bone la arana discoeca?
DTNemes
6 seasons and a movie
TripToeJoe
Kram from USA
DukeofKMS
Kopf hoch. Wir kriegen das schon wieder hin.
RangerLink667
Kram från Australien
Freiaa
Klem fra Norge !
hyllus
Gud välsigna!
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aaronbgraham
I've always wondered, what sound does ä make? I speak a bit of Norwegian and they don't have that one
Johaniis
The Norwegian equivalent is æ. It sounds a bit like "eh" as in meh. But only almost.
aaronbgraham
Thank you!
MollyNapQueen
Kram från Gävle.
Revelumin
Folk har redan glömt bort när Lasermannen terroriserade sthlm. Vi kommer likaså glömma bort skitarna som är bakom det här.
SharkShanker
Yeah!
TheTagg
Kram från norrland :)
catche
Skönt att folk inte blir helt hysteriska. Det gör bara saken värre.
Lenaaaaaaaaaa
Kram frá Íslandi!
ByzantiumBall
Kram från Amerika
jhackofalltrades
Kram from Florida, USA
TroutYabo
Si
Gleipner
"Sverige har aldrig varit tryggare"
WuTangHan
LOL din retorik hör hemma på Flashback. :)
CaptSheffield
Speak English, you're in America. Seriously though, be safe, and watch your back.
ImaLiveForeverCuzLegendsNeverDie
Total chaos! Stockholm håller ihop ändå! Hoppas alla mår bra!
lordtuzzy
FUCKING TERRORISM. well it might be the ISIS they said they would do terror on all europen countris. we need to act upp my fellow VIKINGS
jasonvoorheesbrotherjosh
Klem
jeppsson
Hoppas det. Men ser mycket högerextremister och rasister som försöker utnyttja situationen.
Tbones85
Skol?
JohnnyTitelips
What, Sweden? I mean I appreciate your sentiments but Sweden is not a particularly powerful country, nor is it likely/able to retaliate.
Klaustrophile
Andra mörka krafter kommer att utnyttja eländet, så klart, men vi klarar det också.
Waffe
defuq
ThePoorWarrior
gruffgruff
vurmande med islamister är skälet till varför detta har hänt, "ljusa krafternas" fel right there
TheGingerBeardedBiologist
Getting more and better-paid police officers will be a good start to
CaptSheffield
Who says they're not well paid? Curious.
TheGingerBeardedBiologist
Most political parties seem to think so.
finnen
Bästa ever
FeelMoreLikeIdoRightNowThanIdidAwhileAgo
Unfortunately that would be a good start towards the downward spiral of a police state... like America.
TheGingerBeardedBiologist
That doesn't follow. The proportion of police officers is just low now, especially since so many are doing border checks.
ShitALLthegoodnamesaretaken
Lol. Just lol. I can't believe you actually think this.
apsu
More officers, maybe. Better-paid? Poor pay attracts many people who can't get better jobs due to lack of skills. I'd prefer more skilled.
hyllus
Speaking as a fellow Swede, perhaps we've been too accepting and not cautious enough.
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Antumanke
We have fallen to nazism before. Noone mentions it. Snipers killing non-swedish-looking persons. 2 times actually. Lunatics, all of them
Rengii
Shit happens regardless. Just look at what that Norwegian guy did a few years ago. He was the complete opposite of a Muslim refugee.
kajagu
Not the same. He was not part of a pattern
SecondSince
Because there is no pattern. Only fear and agendas.
rotten2core
Well said. It sucks that you can't trust everyone their needs to be a line. Btw thank you for melodeath
Gleipner
Sverige har aldrig varit tryggare!
VanDerGroot
Det stämmer fortfarande. Det KÄNNS självklart mindre tryggt, men det värsta vi kan göra nu är att låta känslor styra. Låt inte terror vinna!
PersonalityFire
Convincing people to be afraid enough to compromise their principles is why terrorism is effective. Bin Laden won when the US invaded Iraq.
ramonek
"Oh no, we have let a wolf into our herd how could Th is have gappened". That's how I view the OP and half of Sweeden.
DeafVader11
You are a fucking idiot and selfish.
kajagu
Dangeruff
Yes.. this
TheHellbilly
Sadly you are right.
ConnRuu
Men om man tänker på hur lätt det är ändå att åka till ett annat land i EU egentligen. Typ bara ta båten över, ingen som har koll typ 1/2
ConnRuu
Bara åka färjan över liksom 2/2
Mrbright25
Definitely, shit was bound to hit the fan eventually. That's the problem with accepting huge amounts of people at once
Sheprador
Oh is there evidence now that it was a refugee?
chopchoptime
It's called a culture clash for a reason. It will take a long time for a new stable one to form. Maybe not at all.
supdab
9/11 didn't need any refugees to happen.
IAmDrBanner
"Wearing a condom didn't stop my girlfriend from getting pregnant, so there is no point in anyone wearing condoms."
Sheprador
Terrible analogy is terrible.
IAmDrBanner
A terrible analogy to a terrible comparison.
Sheprador
Okay I know I'll get downvoted again, but is there evidence now that a refugee was involved? I'm genuinely curious.
MadDias
It is. according to police 39 years old man from uzbekistan and daesh supporter.
Sheprador
Okay true, but there's no evidence that he's a refugee.
MadDias
That's not the point. chance of radicalization increases with the number of people. also the instructors, agitators, .. it's not so simple 1
MadDias
edit: last info (german newspapers), he's asylum seeker and they denied his proposal. so basically, yes he is (most r. aren't r. only a.s.)
dekket
I sincerely doubt this has ANYTHING to do with refugees.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Why? Many of the attackers in Europe came with the recent wave of refugees, the ones who did France, the ones who did Paris
supdab
Trying to upvote you, i guess the americans downvoting you don't know the situation in europe.
TheHellbilly
Not everything is about america.
TheHellbilly
Why is it so hard to admit that your open border policy can have negative effects? No offence intented but seriously bro, why?
Mrbright25
Shit like this is bound to happen when big amounts of people enter a country, regardless of religion and race,its just bound to happen
PickledBeaver
Random middle-eastern men plowing hijacked big rigs through crowds of pedestrians is bound to happen in a normal society from time to time.
Mrbright25
Random psychos with weird ass intentions are bound to be in those huge crowds of refugees
dekket
So people are accepted into a country when they flee war, are bound to commit atrocities? Sure, lump thousands of people with the same >
NotPopular
When it's a huge group of people who have complete opposite type of culture and ways of living, this kind of stuff happens. I mean it has
dekket
> culture together, and you might have problems. But then it's not the refugee situation, then it's politicians unwillingness >
Mrbright25
No definitely not, what I meant was in a huge amount of people a miniscule amount of them come to the country with bad intentions
Jken324
Let's not jump to conc......aaaaaaand it's Islam!
AndyBiz10
It's not a representation of islam, stop being so fucking ignorant, weather it is or not, it does not represent the religion.
Winterfox
yes it does
SecondSince
You mean like the KKK and Westboro Baptist represents Christianity?
Doomzerker
The KKK and Westboro baptists have hardly any relevance, and affect piss all outside the USA. Islamic terrorism is global, and these 1/2
AndyBiz10
Again it does not represent the religion as a whole.
dekket
Source?
PresidentProTempore
Are you an American expat?
Oversalt
The apprehended man had shattered glass on his clothes and uploded IS propaganda to his FB feed. - just in from the news
Jken324
Don't have one yet but I'm willing to put money on it if you are.
andthenitfinallyhappenedtobetrue
It's not Islam.... it's fucking dumbass deepshit-heads who are high on fucking brainwashed ideology that claim being muslim (drunk/high drug
BangkokDanger
How many times do people have to shout "I'm doing this because Mohammed told me to!" just before killing people before you'll admit Islam
BangkokDanger
*maybe* is just a *tad* bit easy to find passages that justify and promote violence?
inhabitantofplanetearth
It IS Islam. They don't just "claim" that they're muslims, they fucking ARE muslims
andthenitfinallyhappenedtobetrue
And you've been brainwashed too believing you can blame it all on islam & muslim. A bad apple doesn't mean the tree need a cut down. Brain.
inhabitantofplanetearth
Do you realize that Islam is NOT a peaceful religion? Open up a Quran and see for yourself. This is what happens when someone (1/2)
inhabitantofplanetearth
interprets and Quran literally and acts out what it tells them to do. Not saying all muslims are bad, but their religion certainly is (2/2)
override367
salafi beliefs (and wahhabi) are shitty belief structures and are wholly incompatible with modern civilization
andthenitfinallyhappenedtobetrue
Not with any civilisation. There's a chance it's not even compatible with themselves...
Perkunas687
It's no more Islamic than the guy who shot up the abortion clinic was Christianity.
kajagu
Who the fuck are you to decide whats islam or not? If they say theyre muslims and they kill in the name of islam, then thats what it is.
Perkunas687
That's pretty bad logic, but at the same time, I'm considering the source, so uh, there it is.
override367
Well not really, there's not really anything textual in the bible to support an opposition to abortion
override367
the OKC bombing perhaps? all the ancient desert fables are shit, and the more someone literally believes them the worse they are
sexymeetzey
OKC was about Ruby Ridge not the Bible, McVeigh distances himself from religion in many different accounts and interviews.
BangkokDanger
Timothy McVeigh is a self described Agnostic. Seriously, who keeps telling you people he was a Christian? Read his letters.
StarrrryNight
It was a false flag paid for by Trump to legitimise Islamaphobia and right wing agenda.
GeneralPigly
This is a sarcastic comment, yes?
StarrrryNight
Why? Every bit of anti-Trump activity is "FAKE PROPAGANDA PAID FOR BY SOROS!!!!" So I've decided the right wing fund fake terror attacks.
GeneralPigly
...Okay? You keep believing that, buddy.
Gnowl
It's hard to say anymore.
Jken324
Judging by some of his previous comments, I believe he is, sadly, serious.