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reider10
JavaBeanJohnny
We already lost consumer choice since the companies made a virtual monopoly on who serves where
FallenTurtles
That's because we've sort of hand an unspoken agreement to treat the internet as a utility.
TheDuke0fHazzard
Exactly. Overbearing regulations and government picking favorites is what led to this. The state should just btfo and open the markets.
5xAcademyAwardWinnerKirkLazarus
Damn, I'm going to miss www.video.com
pyrrhlis
Oh shit Disney actually bought that address?!
klavenism
As a power engineer, I have so many problems with this cartoon. @TimmyDans
TimmyDans
Like Potheads without power lines? Or the fact that this schlub is coming out of his ivory tower climbing the utility pole with out any of1/
His Personal Protective Equipment. OSHA would have a field day in the union doesn't get to him first. 2/2
TheCheezeLord
2edgy4me
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
Jokes on them, my internet is wireless
Swift2568
I weep for you, pleb.
wow, are you naive
nsxbill
Same as drug companies. The higher the profits the more innovation they can develop. Bullshit!
anjunaspeak23
Watch, our website access will be limited during times of elections to keep us blind. This will not be good.
Mackdi
They dont have to limit access when they just outright lie to you anyways. Like they do right now.
JustAnotherCynicToo
www.gofccyourself.com "I support strong net neutrality, backed by Title 2 oversight of ISP."
TigerThong
Gop fucked us. Fuck them back
nyaore
No, the GOP was very clear about their stance from the beginning. It's people who voted for them in spite of not doing research that did.
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
So what if the GOP wants to do all this stuff I hate. What's the other choice? Vote for a pinko demoncrat?
sangatster
UNITED WE SURF DIVIDED WE TIMEOUT
funfan342
what do any of these corporations stand to lose? they already monopolize the resource, unless you can go without, you are stuck.
GradiustheFox
There's no upper limit as far as they're concerned. If there's a way to grab more money it's a priority, and we've shown
how little we'll fight back, so they have nothing to lose by trying. No matter how Captain Planet Villain the schemes get.
fakepointgenerator
Maybe we have to be the ones to cut the cable. Like literally destroy their fiber lines if they dont stop this shit.
they probably have insurance
probably, but I know there have been vandals who cut fiber cables and it was like 15 million in damages. They wanna break our internet(1)
hah yeah, we had someone driving a lift around a school I worked for, he didnt lower the lift and got closelined on fiber. $$$$$
maybe someone should break theirs?(2)
ClitMuncher69
Thanks Trump!
brownribbon
I work for a company that makes optical fiber. When I see cut lines I see dollar signs.
Idkimadeanaccountjustforthis
This whole thing just reminds me of when politicians were trying to justify letting only one airline fly intercontinental flights.
In order to "protect the American people"
Mewmus
question: if we lose net neutrality, is there any way to get it back with another administration or is it gone for good?
mthrndr01
Sure. Laws can change. But it's gonna be a lot harder. The people who don't give a shit about this issue also traditionally vote a lot 1/2
so it's not an issue that will likely be pushed for with the next administration. Maybe in 30 years it will, if we can still remember.
johnvictor
If the ISPs don't cut out the dissent with blocking of webpages that hold it.
Janusha
This will pass without ANY real opposition.
SnickSnacks
Is...is that a Bell Atlantic logo on his tie? What year was this cartoon?
Pretty old, I think early 2000s is when I first saw it.
But seriously what's the justification. They have to claim it helps somehow?? Or is the argument you can't force them to carry a website?
Valhenx
It would let them charge huge sites like Netflix and YouTube extra for the ridiculous amounts of data that they use. Problem is, (1/2)
(2/2) those extra charges will just be passed on to the consumer.
They say it keeps them from "innovating" or providing "quality service" or one of other BS excuses they use to hide their money boners.
DwigtSchrude
honest question, what lies are "they" feeding us to convince us that we'll be better off without net neutrality?
711wasapartimejob
Governt oversight hinders innovation and economic growth (for the companies).
RideTheStimutacs
I didn't get it, I need a dozen more metaphorical labels to understand.
TheValleyofGwangi1
Great. Now I'll have to go back to getting my usersub OC off the bathroom stalls in bars
ZombieZoidberg
Quick, while his back is turned.. SHOOT HIM, then bury him in a shallow grave behind that cute little house.
Edit: the last cable to be cut = nudes
icelandicsealbear
You could have rallied people by saying "neutrality."
chinoelpastelero
TheLetterKay
More likely ads
MrGloo
Oh shit call batman, yes we don't deserve him yadda yadda yadda just save the nudes...
thraxcres
BASTARDS
GrandmaSlappy
Don't double dip
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
SMELLS OF HERECY
DreamingOfDistantShores
And that's how the revolution happened, grandchildren.
ryanev
NOOOOOOOOO
OneShucklak
SACRILEGE
Owlberightback
Historically it's pedophilia
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Or cats. Because there's no way to tell if there's more cats or porn on the internet.
Cocacowlah
Schrödinger's cable? Untill you cut it it's both.
Kammikatze
One way or the other. It's pussy.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Pussy cats, pussy and ass pussy?
IDONTKNOWWHATWEREYELLINGABOUTLOUDNOISES
Only one way to be sure. You start watching cat videos... I'll see how much porn there is.
Does 10hr nyan cat videos count? Because you'll need time to "refresh your browser".
I don't know what "nyan" is, but I'm about to Google it. Wish me luck.
Well now that you'll be introducing yourself you the annoying side of the internet. May i also point you towards Crazy Frog.
DeliciousMeatCurtains
Raoul9753
Ah, how good that I dont live in the USA...
Oh its going to hit you too bruh. most of the internet is in the us.
SammyStoner
Yep, Imgur is also in the US. Pretty sure if just that line alone was added everyone on Imgur would be on board with stopping this.
ICanConfirmThis
Sooner or later it will get fucked anyway.
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
if I remember correctly the argument isnt that "we'll be better off this way" it's "theres no reason to think they'd actually do that..."
TheMightyMoto
Remember those that stand to profit, will often put that ahead of all else.
Throrf
Would you not say that by supporting net neutrality you stand to profit?
That assumes they can't profit more by being against it.
My point was, absolutely everyone does things because they stand to profit from them.
HerrBisch
We can't blame them - companies exist to make profit! This is why free markets are only good for certain things.
FluffyPuddles
Actually it depends on how a corporation writes it's founding articles. They could start or switch to being B-Corps which are required to
meet social sustainability & environmental performance standards, etc., not only make profit.
molestmymonkey
I was just thinking that middle wire still holding together should have been labelled "money" or "profit" or something along those lines.
CalvinMcFly
Dang, well put
JamesTrickington87
Fucking Verizon.
utgort
Does that include the parties that want the government to rule all aspects of our lives?
geiokami
Welcome to America
addictedtointernet
I love the Bell symbol on his shirt! Priceless.
somestrangeryoudontknow
Like Moses
Fjuben
Hiw does the jewish prophet profit from this?
They control everything, do you even Mein kampf bro?!
CertifiedAgreer
No no he meant mooses
TheGreatAnhey
Goddamn those meese
Cozziechov
Carefully
Octomac
"Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business." ~C.M. Burns
NerdN1
So the voters must make the political costs greater than the financial gains.
Denturedog
Well the shareholders are who matters fuck the public who gives a shit about them
FurtiveGlancer
JoystickJiggler
Isn't TWC/Spectrum owned by AT&T?
Remember AT&T used to own everything good ole ma bell
Jusmar
No, they're another telecom conglomerate. Ironically they're all retuning back into one huge monopoly like how Bell was.
deathventure
Spectrum is a Charter telecoms company. TWC sold off a large portion in order to get a better possibility to merge with ATT
GooberSnotpants
hooray capitalism
American capitalism*
Wildcat0202
More like Facism. Don't blame capitalism. Capitalism good.
EpicSeaFlapFlap
Capitalism is fine. We REALLY need regulations on it
lol ok
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
I like socialism until I have a long weekend. Then I remember why it's pointless.
Therunningbalcony
Why?
TheBlackWindHowls
but muh free market
SecondSince
"Like hell! You are a fucking commie!" - too many americans
GnomeDeGuerre
Everything in moderation.
Exactly
CatUpVote
Just remember America: YOU VOTED FOR THIS. Complaining now is just hypocrisy.
No, we didn't vote for this. It doesn't work like that mate. Just like Brexit one part of the population got what it wanted.
Its been going on regardless of party.
SciGuy
The current action is literally to reverse an action the other party took.
After the entire internet screeched at them.
jimjam2
Are you retarded?
Remember PIPA? That was written by a democrat. SOPA was widely popular on both parties until the internet had an aneurism.
Call me whatever you want, but in the end all participants in the legislative system are money whores. Republicans, Democrats, same bullshit
The last neutrality vote changed because of protests. The FCC was predominantly democrat.
TacticallySignificantTurtle2ElectricBoogaloo
Literally nobody wants this besides corporate interests. It's the perfect signifier of the amount of corruption in this country
dauntlessds
I've got a pole those stupid corporate fucks can climb.
There are people still against Net Neutrality and the two reasons are ignorance to what it is and "OMG GUVRMNT HURR NO!"
This is dead accurate
TheFinalDoctor
not true (pro net neutrality here), I had a debate with a friend just last night where he has against net neutrality. Has it in his mind
that we need to keep the government out of things, including the internet
Then he would replace the government with a corporate monopoly. I think it's a much worse option
tried explaining that to him. no luck
iSoulend
I mean, I don't even understand why they'd want it, what do they even do with their time off, do they never use internet ?
They want it because it gives then easy power of monopoly, and monopoly means big money.
No what I mean is, I do understand getting rich at the others expense, it makes sense, but why do it at your own
It's like saying 'you can get any pizza you want for free whenever, but any other than this one is gonna taste like shit'
They don't care about the quality of the internet, or the detriment to others and possibly to themselves. The money and control blinds them
jsktrogdor
*In the Republican party, essentially the only people actually pushing against Net Neutrality.
jidar
Well, I think you mean their donors.
There is no difference.
And it's more than just a donor thing. Republicans see this as government regulation against business.
theindi
And everyone on the right opposes it because Obama introduced it. It's literally a fight just for spite.
KevinBaconsToasterOven
ThisGuyHere
As a centrist with primarily Republican friends and family, they most certainly do not oppose it.
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
Your friends and family don't and that is great.lots of people do though. It often comes from blindly opposing left ideals
I use to say, "Obama could cure cancer and the right would complain that he is killing jobs because of it."
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blanco6969
Who the FUCK said that?
Tikityler
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/794942381753831424?lang=en
PenisShapedPoops
I mean I won't unite under Trump, but I have no real hate for lefties or righties. We do go through this song and dance a lot.
I never said to unite around Trump. I could see how that might be seen that way. I meant the people need to unite not further divide.
EarendilTheBlessed
Trump is literally skipping meetings the dude is nt the guy to unite under
Then unite against, I never said to unite around him.
PigglyWigglyJigglyTuff
It's more of a fight about govt control and overreach...
scnottaken
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
you dont know what net neutrality is. without it ISP's can block or massively slow access to sites that dont pay up or go against their 1/2
interests such as a ISP with very conservative religious people in charge could block access to anything about abortion. 2/2
If government is so bad, why do you elect such assholes who dick suck for money whilst throwing everyone else under the bus?
IW42
They may not start out that way. Power corrupts.
Then stop re-electing them once they are corrupt.
Can't speak for everyone, but my states gerrymandering made it to the courts it was so bad. Sometimes they aren't legitimately elected.
Uuudd
I want it repealed, I dont agree with Title 2 and the power is gives the government to regulate my internet connection availability, speed,
Price, and everything else thats associated with forced competition in public utilities and infrastructure costs. Pai agreed with everyone
And voted along with the democrats for the first part, unthrottled, uncensored, he even broke up unfair data practices from cell comps n mor
Lefpa
So you want ISPs to cut you down even more just because they can?
Power that is necessary in order to stop ISPS abuse of the American public. Millions of Americans don't have access to reliable broadband
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/epas-heavy-hand-is-felt-in-higher-electricity-prices/
Mosod
Oooooo that dirty government! Making me pay a little more for electricity just to prevent global catastrophe! Regulation bad!
I dont think American need broadband speeds. Congress changed the definition to 25 MBps. I live in a house with 4 people, we use a 10MBps
With no issues at all. Why regulate my ISP and providers to force them to give everyone the option to buy 25MBps from 2 sources regardless
Of the cost it will bear on them to bring internet out into the boonies?
DaddyPutin
Muh ISPs! Won't someone please think of muh poor ISPs! Their ceos are forced to live on the streets as paupers. We must help them get more $
And you cant just make laws regulating that? I siagree with you, thats why theres a debate about NN.
*disagree
darkdragonempress
Actually the whole reason it got moved to Title 2 was because ISPs were doing shit but courts ruled that as title 1 things the gov couldn't1
Actually do anything to stop them. 2
Service, Millions are forced to remain with one ISP and deal with hidden fees and data caps, poor infrastructure due to lack of investment
Did this approach work for Flint? Or any other group devistated by public utility failures? Obvi pleading the Q here, we both did
Someone have the simpsons think of the children meme? Cant find it
What does regulating them as a public utility deal with them suddenly willing to invest more in meaningful infrastructure?
Do you really want to continue with that?
thegreatheed
So you the a free internet, or a government-run internet? which is it?
I had this same thought, but saddened by those who defend it because their leaders voted for it
EvenSpeedwagon
Thats the opposite of the way interest are designed to flow
Gorillionare
Representatives are supposed to vote the way the people they represent want. Why the fuck is the opposite happening?
How many of those miserable fucks have their job because of the color of their campaign signs and not the things they've done?
Randomman96
Because they realized they could line their pockets with corporate money, fuck over their constituents, and be perfectly fine.
TapiocaMartini
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it! 1,500 years ago, everybody knew that the 1/2
OnlySyphonFilterMemesMatter
...kids love cinnamon toast crunch for it's lack of mercury. 2/2
Earth was the center of the universe 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat." Agent K
AnnoyanceAbounds
flavivsaetivs
That was Ptolemy's fault. Prior to ~120 AD most people believed in Heliocentrism. That a spherical Earth has been known since 220 BC.
But, I can't remember where I know him from.
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
SCIENCE IS A LIAR ... sometimes
v
reider10
JavaBeanJohnny
We already lost consumer choice since the companies made a virtual monopoly on who serves where
FallenTurtles
That's because we've sort of hand an unspoken agreement to treat the internet as a utility.
TheDuke0fHazzard
Exactly. Overbearing regulations and government picking favorites is what led to this. The state should just btfo and open the markets.
5xAcademyAwardWinnerKirkLazarus
Damn, I'm going to miss www.video.com
pyrrhlis
Oh shit Disney actually bought that address?!
klavenism
As a power engineer, I have so many problems with this cartoon. @TimmyDans
TimmyDans
Like Potheads without power lines? Or the fact that this schlub is coming out of his ivory tower climbing the utility pole with out any of1/
TimmyDans
His Personal Protective Equipment. OSHA would have a field day in the union doesn't get to him first. 2/2
TheCheezeLord
2edgy4me
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
Jokes on them, my internet is wireless
Swift2568
I weep for you, pleb.
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
wow, are you naive
nsxbill
Same as drug companies. The higher the profits the more innovation they can develop. Bullshit!
anjunaspeak23
Watch, our website access will be limited during times of elections to keep us blind. This will not be good.
Mackdi
They dont have to limit access when they just outright lie to you anyways. Like they do right now.
JustAnotherCynicToo
www.gofccyourself.com "I support strong net neutrality, backed by Title 2 oversight of ISP."
TigerThong
Gop fucked us. Fuck them back
nyaore
No, the GOP was very clear about their stance from the beginning. It's people who voted for them in spite of not doing research that did.
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
So what if the GOP wants to do all this stuff I hate. What's the other choice? Vote for a pinko demoncrat?
sangatster
UNITED WE SURF DIVIDED WE TIMEOUT
funfan342
what do any of these corporations stand to lose? they already monopolize the resource, unless you can go without, you are stuck.
GradiustheFox
There's no upper limit as far as they're concerned. If there's a way to grab more money it's a priority, and we've shown
GradiustheFox
how little we'll fight back, so they have nothing to lose by trying. No matter how Captain Planet Villain the schemes get.
fakepointgenerator
Maybe we have to be the ones to cut the cable. Like literally destroy their fiber lines if they dont stop this shit.
funfan342
they probably have insurance
fakepointgenerator
probably, but I know there have been vandals who cut fiber cables and it was like 15 million in damages. They wanna break our internet(1)
funfan342
hah yeah, we had someone driving a lift around a school I worked for, he didnt lower the lift and got closelined on fiber. $$$$$
fakepointgenerator
maybe someone should break theirs?(2)
ClitMuncher69
Thanks Trump!
brownribbon
I work for a company that makes optical fiber. When I see cut lines I see dollar signs.
Idkimadeanaccountjustforthis
This whole thing just reminds me of when politicians were trying to justify letting only one airline fly intercontinental flights.
Idkimadeanaccountjustforthis
In order to "protect the American people"
Mewmus
question: if we lose net neutrality, is there any way to get it back with another administration or is it gone for good?
mthrndr01
Sure. Laws can change. But it's gonna be a lot harder. The people who don't give a shit about this issue also traditionally vote a lot 1/2
mthrndr01
so it's not an issue that will likely be pushed for with the next administration. Maybe in 30 years it will, if we can still remember.
johnvictor
If the ISPs don't cut out the dissent with blocking of webpages that hold it.
Janusha
This will pass without ANY real opposition.
SnickSnacks
Is...is that a Bell Atlantic logo on his tie? What year was this cartoon?
johnvictor
Pretty old, I think early 2000s is when I first saw it.
reider10
But seriously what's the justification. They have to claim it helps somehow?? Or is the argument you can't force them to carry a website?
Valhenx
It would let them charge huge sites like Netflix and YouTube extra for the ridiculous amounts of data that they use. Problem is, (1/2)
Valhenx
(2/2) those extra charges will just be passed on to the consumer.
johnvictor
They say it keeps them from "innovating" or providing "quality service" or one of other BS excuses they use to hide their money boners.
DwigtSchrude
honest question, what lies are "they" feeding us to convince us that we'll be better off without net neutrality?
711wasapartimejob
Governt oversight hinders innovation and economic growth (for the companies).
RideTheStimutacs
I didn't get it, I need a dozen more metaphorical labels to understand.
TheValleyofGwangi1
Great. Now I'll have to go back to getting my usersub OC off the bathroom stalls in bars
ZombieZoidberg
Quick, while his back is turned.. SHOOT HIM, then bury him in a shallow grave behind that cute little house.
KeepingRepostStatsBusy
Edit: the last cable to be cut = nudes
icelandicsealbear
You could have rallied people by saying "neutrality."
chinoelpastelero
TheLetterKay
More likely ads
MrGloo
Oh shit call batman, yes we don't deserve him yadda yadda yadda just save the nudes...
thraxcres
BASTARDS
GrandmaSlappy
Don't double dip
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
SMELLS OF HERECY
DreamingOfDistantShores
And that's how the revolution happened, grandchildren.
ryanev
NOOOOOOOOO
OneShucklak
SACRILEGE
Owlberightback
Historically it's pedophilia
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Or cats. Because there's no way to tell if there's more cats or porn on the internet.
Cocacowlah
Schrödinger's cable? Untill you cut it it's both.
Kammikatze
One way or the other. It's pussy.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Pussy cats, pussy and ass pussy?
IDONTKNOWWHATWEREYELLINGABOUTLOUDNOISES
Only one way to be sure. You start watching cat videos... I'll see how much porn there is.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Does 10hr nyan cat videos count? Because you'll need time to "refresh your browser".
IDONTKNOWWHATWEREYELLINGABOUTLOUDNOISES
I don't know what "nyan" is, but I'm about to Google it. Wish me luck.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Well now that you'll be introducing yourself you the annoying side of the internet. May i also point you towards Crazy Frog.
DeliciousMeatCurtains
Raoul9753
Ah, how good that I dont live in the USA...
Mackdi
Oh its going to hit you too bruh. most of the internet is in the us.
SammyStoner
Yep, Imgur is also in the US. Pretty sure if just that line alone was added everyone on Imgur would be on board with stopping this.
ICanConfirmThis
Sooner or later it will get fucked anyway.
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
if I remember correctly the argument isnt that "we'll be better off this way" it's "theres no reason to think they'd actually do that..."
TheMightyMoto
Remember those that stand to profit, will often put that ahead of all else.
Throrf
Would you not say that by supporting net neutrality you stand to profit?
TheMightyMoto
That assumes they can't profit more by being against it.
Throrf
My point was, absolutely everyone does things because they stand to profit from them.
HerrBisch
We can't blame them - companies exist to make profit! This is why free markets are only good for certain things.
FluffyPuddles
Actually it depends on how a corporation writes it's founding articles. They could start or switch to being B-Corps which are required to
FluffyPuddles
meet social sustainability & environmental performance standards, etc., not only make profit.
molestmymonkey
I was just thinking that middle wire still holding together should have been labelled "money" or "profit" or something along those lines.
CalvinMcFly
Dang, well put
JamesTrickington87
Fucking Verizon.
utgort
Does that include the parties that want the government to rule all aspects of our lives?
geiokami
Welcome to America
addictedtointernet
I love the Bell symbol on his shirt! Priceless.
somestrangeryoudontknow
Like Moses
Fjuben
Hiw does the jewish prophet profit from this?
somestrangeryoudontknow
They control everything, do you even Mein kampf bro?!
CertifiedAgreer
No no he meant mooses
TheGreatAnhey
Goddamn those meese
Cozziechov
Carefully
Octomac
"Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business." ~C.M. Burns
NerdN1
So the voters must make the political costs greater than the financial gains.
Denturedog
Well the shareholders are who matters fuck the public who gives a shit about them
FurtiveGlancer
JoystickJiggler
Isn't TWC/Spectrum owned by AT&T?
Denturedog
Remember AT&T used to own everything good ole ma bell
Jusmar
No, they're another telecom conglomerate. Ironically they're all retuning back into one huge monopoly like how Bell was.
deathventure
Spectrum is a Charter telecoms company. TWC sold off a large portion in order to get a better possibility to merge with ATT
GooberSnotpants
hooray capitalism
geiokami
American capitalism*
Wildcat0202
More like Facism. Don't blame capitalism. Capitalism good.
EpicSeaFlapFlap
Capitalism is fine. We REALLY need regulations on it
GooberSnotpants
lol ok
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
I like socialism until I have a long weekend. Then I remember why it's pointless.
Therunningbalcony
Why?
TheBlackWindHowls
but muh free market
SecondSince
"Like hell! You are a fucking commie!" - too many americans
GnomeDeGuerre
Everything in moderation.
EpicSeaFlapFlap
Exactly
CatUpVote
Just remember America: YOU VOTED FOR THIS. Complaining now is just hypocrisy.
Mackdi
No, we didn't vote for this. It doesn't work like that mate. Just like Brexit one part of the population got what it wanted.
Jusmar
Its been going on regardless of party.
SciGuy
The current action is literally to reverse an action the other party took.
Jusmar
After the entire internet screeched at them.
jimjam2
Are you retarded?
Jusmar
Remember PIPA? That was written by a democrat. SOPA was widely popular on both parties until the internet had an aneurism.
Jusmar
Call me whatever you want, but in the end all participants in the legislative system are money whores. Republicans, Democrats, same bullshit
Jusmar
The last neutrality vote changed because of protests. The FCC was predominantly democrat.
TacticallySignificantTurtle2ElectricBoogaloo
Literally nobody wants this besides corporate interests. It's the perfect signifier of the amount of corruption in this country
dauntlessds
I've got a pole those stupid corporate fucks can climb.
johnvictor
There are people still against Net Neutrality and the two reasons are ignorance to what it is and "OMG GUVRMNT HURR NO!"
sangatster
This is dead accurate
TheFinalDoctor
not true (pro net neutrality here), I had a debate with a friend just last night where he has against net neutrality. Has it in his mind
TheFinalDoctor
that we need to keep the government out of things, including the internet
TacticallySignificantTurtle2ElectricBoogaloo
Then he would replace the government with a corporate monopoly. I think it's a much worse option
TheFinalDoctor
tried explaining that to him. no luck
iSoulend
I mean, I don't even understand why they'd want it, what do they even do with their time off, do they never use internet ?
TacticallySignificantTurtle2ElectricBoogaloo
They want it because it gives then easy power of monopoly, and monopoly means big money.
iSoulend
No what I mean is, I do understand getting rich at the others expense, it makes sense, but why do it at your own
iSoulend
It's like saying 'you can get any pizza you want for free whenever, but any other than this one is gonna taste like shit'
TacticallySignificantTurtle2ElectricBoogaloo
They don't care about the quality of the internet, or the detriment to others and possibly to themselves. The money and control blinds them
jsktrogdor
*In the Republican party, essentially the only people actually pushing against Net Neutrality.
jidar
Well, I think you mean their donors.
jsktrogdor
There is no difference.
jsktrogdor
And it's more than just a donor thing. Republicans see this as government regulation against business.
theindi
And everyone on the right opposes it because Obama introduced it. It's literally a fight just for spite.
KevinBaconsToasterOven
ThisGuyHere
As a centrist with primarily Republican friends and family, they most certainly do not oppose it.
ishouldprobablybeplayingpokemonATM
Your friends and family don't and that is great.lots of people do though. It often comes from blindly opposing left ideals
TheMightyMoto
I use to say, "Obama could cure cancer and the right would complain that he is killing jobs because of it."
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blanco6969
Who the FUCK said that?
Tikityler
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/794942381753831424?lang=en
PenisShapedPoops
I mean I won't unite under Trump, but I have no real hate for lefties or righties. We do go through this song and dance a lot.
Tikityler
I never said to unite around Trump. I could see how that might be seen that way. I meant the people need to unite not further divide.
EarendilTheBlessed
Trump is literally skipping meetings the dude is nt the guy to unite under
Tikityler
Then unite against, I never said to unite around him.
PigglyWigglyJigglyTuff
It's more of a fight about govt control and overreach...
scnottaken
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
you dont know what net neutrality is. without it ISP's can block or massively slow access to sites that dont pay up or go against their 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
interests such as a ISP with very conservative religious people in charge could block access to anything about abortion. 2/2
theindi
If government is so bad, why do you elect such assholes who dick suck for money whilst throwing everyone else under the bus?
IW42
They may not start out that way. Power corrupts.
theindi
Then stop re-electing them once they are corrupt.
PenisShapedPoops
Can't speak for everyone, but my states gerrymandering made it to the courts it was so bad. Sometimes they aren't legitimately elected.
Uuudd
I want it repealed, I dont agree with Title 2 and the power is gives the government to regulate my internet connection availability, speed,
Uuudd
Price, and everything else thats associated with forced competition in public utilities and infrastructure costs. Pai agreed with everyone
Uuudd
And voted along with the democrats for the first part, unthrottled, uncensored, he even broke up unfair data practices from cell comps n mor
Lefpa
So you want ISPs to cut you down even more just because they can?
711wasapartimejob
Power that is necessary in order to stop ISPS abuse of the American public. Millions of Americans don't have access to reliable broadband
Uuudd
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/epas-heavy-hand-is-felt-in-higher-electricity-prices/
Mosod
Oooooo that dirty government! Making me pay a little more for electricity just to prevent global catastrophe! Regulation bad!
Uuudd
I dont think American need broadband speeds. Congress changed the definition to 25 MBps. I live in a house with 4 people, we use a 10MBps
Uuudd
With no issues at all. Why regulate my ISP and providers to force them to give everyone the option to buy 25MBps from 2 sources regardless
Uuudd
Of the cost it will bear on them to bring internet out into the boonies?
DaddyPutin
Muh ISPs! Won't someone please think of muh poor ISPs! Their ceos are forced to live on the streets as paupers. We must help them get more $
Uuudd
And you cant just make laws regulating that? I siagree with you, thats why theres a debate about NN.
Uuudd
*disagree
darkdragonempress
Actually the whole reason it got moved to Title 2 was because ISPs were doing shit but courts ruled that as title 1 things the gov couldn't1
darkdragonempress
Actually do anything to stop them. 2
711wasapartimejob
Service, Millions are forced to remain with one ISP and deal with hidden fees and data caps, poor infrastructure due to lack of investment
Uuudd
Did this approach work for Flint? Or any other group devistated by public utility failures? Obvi pleading the Q here, we both did
Uuudd
Someone have the simpsons think of the children meme? Cant find it
Uuudd
What does regulating them as a public utility deal with them suddenly willing to invest more in meaningful infrastructure?
711wasapartimejob
Do you really want to continue with that?
thegreatheed
So you the a free internet, or a government-run internet? which is it?
KeepingRepostStatsBusy
I had this same thought, but saddened by those who defend it because their leaders voted for it
EvenSpeedwagon
Thats the opposite of the way interest are designed to flow
Gorillionare
Representatives are supposed to vote the way the people they represent want. Why the fuck is the opposite happening?
mthrndr01
How many of those miserable fucks have their job because of the color of their campaign signs and not the things they've done?
Randomman96
Because they realized they could line their pockets with corporate money, fuck over their constituents, and be perfectly fine.
TapiocaMartini
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it! 1,500 years ago, everybody knew that the 1/2
OnlySyphonFilterMemesMatter
...kids love cinnamon toast crunch for it's lack of mercury. 2/2
TapiocaMartini
Earth was the center of the universe 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat." Agent K
AnnoyanceAbounds
flavivsaetivs
That was Ptolemy's fault. Prior to ~120 AD most people believed in Heliocentrism. That a spherical Earth has been known since 220 BC.
TapiocaMartini
But, I can't remember where I know him from.
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
SCIENCE IS A LIAR ... sometimes
pyrrhlis