Is it weird that Lindsey Graham just beat Mitch McConnell at being dead? Lindsey Graham's last cover-up of Mitch McConnell's death, that it literally killed Lindsey Graham at 71.
When we finally find out mitch is dead I hope they're able to charge everyone involved in the cover up with abuse of a corpse at the very least. Let that sit on all their permanent records for the rest of their lives.
August 3rd is the critical deadline under Kentucky Senate succession law determining how Senator Mitch McConnell's seat is filled if it becomes vacant before his term ends.If a vacancy occurs before August 3rd, the statute mandates a special election to select a replacement. If the seat is vacated after August 3rd, the law dictates that no special election can be called, and the seat would remain empty until the winner of the November general election is sworn in,
And while everyone is looking at this, Lindsay Graham has up and died. I'm not American, can someone tell me this will trigger a by election, won't it? While they're busy trying to convince us that the Kentucky turtle isn't dead?
Not in South Carolina. South Carolina allows the governor to just straight up appoint a successor until his next election would've been. But that's this year, so the replacement will only serve until the next Congress. Still, it is South Carolina, so not exactly the ideal "flip" opportunity even without an incumbent.
But the people has all the power to make permanent changes immediately. If they are willing to do it. But they aren't. they actually are okay with current system. Yadayada i have work to go to, i cant get fired... yeah if EVERYONE goes, there will not be such problem because you are getting rid of that!
If your opposition had any sort of testicular fortitude, they would raise one hell of a racket, about how republicans are disgusting and morallesely using a deadman as a pawn in rheir games. You know, attempting to cause a moral outcry for basically using a corpse as a game piece
The governor should announce he had a 20 minute phone call with Mitch, during which Mitch told him he had resigned for health reasons. Then he could start the special election process.
A) You give Massey too much credit. The only thing he is really on the side of with Democrats is releasing the Epstein Files. B) Whomever this is still would only serve until January unless they were also elected again in November. C) We've, on multiple occasions, have hoped that a Dem could break through in KY since Beshear one. But he's really been the only one to do so or even come close.
McConnell refused to allow Obama's pick for the Supreme Court to be considered, in complete violation of rules, so I think that he is dead right now. Bring on the special election!
He should go whole hog and just appoint someone. That power was only removed when a democrat too the governor's seat and it has yet to be tested in court.
We are at war with republicans and not getting into the mud to step on their necks is holding us all down.
he has no official authority to do that unfortunately. he could show up at the hospital as a visitor but i assume whoever has been assigned to make sure outsiders don't get in to see him wouldn't let that happen. as governor he is a state official and McConnell is federal so he just doesn't have the authority to do much
Not to mention the HIPPA violation. Regardless of who the patient is and who the person looking for the patient is, the healthcare people have a responsibility to protect the patient’s medical condition.
Seeing him for himself doesn’t mean anything. A neurologist declaring him legally brain dead does. Or other doctors finding him dead in others ways. To be honest - I like that approach far better than trusting the word of a governor saying “yep, I saw him.”
So, if what you’re saying is that you like the governor to get quick confirmation of his death status - yep. If you want a politician to confirm for us that he went to a hospital bed and report back to us, no thanks.
Bershear needs to walk into the hospital and make someone stop him from walking into McConnels room. I'm curious if anyone would have the guts to physically stop a sitting governor from walking into his room. I would say his wife but she's in China being managed by her handlers.
100% I do this to people all the time families request noone is allowed to visit or visitors must know the family password to visit. Try to go in anyways and have people arrested for trespassing.
They did and it's being ignored. Don't you know you don't have to follow the laws if you're the government anymore. You just ignore it and it goes away.
If I was him, I would have issued a statement stating that his family and/or the GOP need to provide verifiable proof of life within 24 hours or the special election would proceed since McConnell is obviously unable to perform his duties.
Andy Beshear did write a letter, politely demanding proof of life. I suppose he could just call a special election and let the courts handle it. Other than that, he can't do much.
He should call the national guard to escort him to the hospital. If anyone attempts to impede his entrance into the hospital to see Mitch have them arrested. If he's dead have a press conference waiting outside and announce an election. Stop fucking playing nice
He could try to visit his government "buddy" and bring him flowers and a get well soon card. You know, to be a decent human being and no ulterior motives.
The Republican made sure to neuter him as much as they could. When a fascist gets elected to that office, they will reverse that and, as is the wont of all Republicans, make him king.
We’re only finding out in the last few years that much of our government stability is based on the idea that there’s some kind of unwritten agreement to follow the rules. As such, no one really put down on paper what to do when one side just stops following rules, norms, or even laws. Who enforces it? What’s the punishment? Can we make that punishment happen or can they ignore it? If they ignore it - again- who enforces it?
This exactly. Too much of the government is run by gentleman's agreements. And then what procedures are there are used by Republicans to stall things like with Mike Johnson refusing to swear in that Democrat House member that won her special election last year.
Or Obama being able to secure confirmation for Supreme Court justices. McConnell used to revel in his nickname as the Grim Reaper of democratic nominees.
Its been decades since the US underwent what is formally called "corporate capture", meaning the US is effectively a corporate & zionist (often one and the same) controlled terror state with ZERO accountability to its own laws. Therefore, enforcement is now possible only via direct action from a highly organized population. Problem is, Americans couldn't run a hot bath, let alone organize a sustained revolt to forcefully clear out the wall-to-wall cockroaches in congress & the orange house.
Oh god, not another one of those “America is a corporation” crackpot horse-ass sovereign citizen donkey shit. That argument is only dragged out by idiots who want to avoid actually adhering to the social contract and laws. Let’s be clear here, America is a flea’s pubes from being an oligarchy, no doubt, but it isn’t a lost cause, and it certainly isn’t taking trump lying down.
Oh fuck off with this nonsense. 1) Many Americans are pursuing peaceful options to resolve all of this. That's not incompetence, nor is it cowardice. It's humane and strategic. 2) Things in the US are bad, but they're not nearly as bad as you see it get in other societies before revolts begin. 3) If you want to see some bloodshed, get out there and do it yourself instead of armchair general-ing over the fucking internet.
PapaJoeNH
The Governor should just appoint a replacement now. That's what the Republicans would do
ChewyTheWookie
Push for a special election hard, loud and immediately
wisco97
Republicans are literally denying taxpayers their lawful representation.
250 years ago, a war was fought over those rights.
thisithis
Is it weird that Lindsey Graham just beat Mitch McConnell at being dead? Lindsey Graham's last cover-up of Mitch McConnell's death, that it literally killed Lindsey Graham at 71.
stoots24
Schedule a special election for Aug 3rd.
Oldnewdad
The gov. Should call a special election and make repubs prove he's alive
SirPrized
Just start announcing he’s dead. Call the special election and make them prove that he’s not. It’s what the republicans would do
throwaway12345432
Lindsay Graham is dead, Bitch McConnell is probably dead. Thoughts and Prayers and other meaningless shit. Fuck them both.
Feralkyn
Oh fuck I'm learning about this from this comment. HELLLL yes.
Drew442
When we finally find out mitch is dead I hope they're able to charge everyone involved in the cover up with abuse of a corpse at the very least. Let that sit on all their permanent records for the rest of their lives.
NVGoddesscottage
The governor needs to call for the special election and require proof of McConnells “Llife” in the court suit to follow
michaelfire
August 3rd is the critical deadline under Kentucky Senate succession law determining how Senator Mitch McConnell's seat is filled if it becomes vacant before his term ends.If a vacancy occurs before August 3rd, the statute mandates a special election to select a replacement. If the seat is vacated after August 3rd, the law dictates that no special election can be called, and the seat would remain empty until the winner of the November general election is sworn in,
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
And while everyone is looking at this, Lindsay Graham has up and died. I'm not American, can someone tell me this will trigger a by election, won't it? While they're busy trying to convince us that the Kentucky turtle isn't dead?
mithiwithi
Not in South Carolina. South Carolina allows the governor to just straight up appoint a successor until his next election would've been. But that's this year, so the replacement will only serve until the next Congress. Still, it is South Carolina, so not exactly the ideal "flip" opportunity even without an incumbent.
whereismymind86
Lindsay Graham just died…that kinda fucks up their whole plan.
GrimleyGraves
There must be no threat of a special election with lindsey, or the ghouls would have stuck his ass on a machine till it was safe.
chackstar
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Croak
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
What were the odds on Lindsey's retirement?
iamthemurray
The conspiracy of him faking his death is out of the realm of possibility right? He's definitely not coming back?
gtotherizzle
You know who has even less rights than the government? The people being governed
SergeyPrkl
But the people has all the power to make permanent changes immediately. If they are willing to do it. But they aren't. they actually are okay with current system. Yadayada i have work to go to, i cant get fired... yeah if EVERYONE goes, there will not be such problem because you are getting rid of that!
rolliefingers
Fewer
Mistruths
No, it's still "President" for the moment
Avrgjoe80
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DJOldguy
McConnell represents the State so the State should act!
dawnkelly3160
Will they pump him full of drugs to keep the heart beating although he is otherwise dead?
heroesblood
Bookmarking this for later.
Ucanthankmel8r
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tinydog
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skinkabamba
If your opposition had any sort of testicular fortitude, they would raise one hell of a racket, about how republicans are disgusting and morallesely using a deadman as a pawn in rheir games. You know, attempting to cause a moral outcry for basically using a corpse as a game piece
jmacg
The governor should announce he had a 20 minute phone call with Mitch, during which Mitch told him he had resigned for health reasons. Then he could start the special election process.
Peden1
This is who makes decisions for our nation's citizens.
kendottack
The staff of Congress? Yes, absolutely they do. Congressmen and Senators come and go but the staffers are the same people.
magikmarker
The chief of Staff, and other core people will change.
Peden1
I'm uncertain on who is more influential on legislation, the old elected individuals or their staffers.
animatronicChristmasChickens
Lobbyists
Peden1
Lobbyists influence those who vote for sure
animatronicChristmasChickens
Lobbyists often essentially write laws, then hand them to reps to introduce
psstuphere
At least Lindsey Graham is dead, for real
crypticorb
McConnell used Graham as a Horcrux. Hopefully he doesn’t have any left!
xiaodown
Well. This is how I found that out.
Heavenissize17socks
Somebody needs to call in a wellness check for him. Seriously.
makesense
A) You give Massey too much credit. The only thing he is really on the side of with Democrats is releasing the Epstein Files. B) Whomever this is still would only serve until January unless they were also elected again in November. C) We've, on multiple occasions, have hoped that a Dem could break through in KY since Beshear one. But he's really been the only one to do so or even come close.
So I don't think this is the point.
blah1blah1blah1
Someone got pull the plug
scootwhoman
McConnell refused to allow Obama's pick for the Supreme Court to be considered, in complete violation of rules, so I think that he is dead right now. Bring on the special election!
scoutMoonDiver
I think the governor should just declare McConnell dead and proceed with the special election. Rules don’t apply anymore.
DukePhelan
He should go whole hog and just appoint someone. That power was only removed when a democrat too the governor's seat and it has yet to be tested in court.
We are at war with republicans and not getting into the mud to step on their necks is holding us all down.
jesuisgur
If he's indeed still alive he can go and fight it in court for a few years to try and get his seat back !
XEPNO
a million % this. oh hes not dead, well, until he tells us himself, i say he is. boom. dead.
RoyDMercer
If I were governor, I think I would insist on seeing him for myself.
GodHelpMeToBeGood
Hmm this act would be almost treasonous to their party tricks.
anarchoFeline
he has no official authority to do that unfortunately. he could show up at the hospital as a visitor but i assume whoever has been assigned to make sure outsiders don't get in to see him wouldn't let that happen. as governor he is a state official and McConnell is federal so he just doesn't have the authority to do much
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Not to mention the HIPPA violation. Regardless of who the patient is and who the person looking for the patient is, the healthcare people have a responsibility to protect the patient’s medical condition.
azgrak1
Bershear needs to go to the hospital and make someone physically stop him from walking into McConnell’s room.
Fractallergy
Governor should call the special election and say "just have Mitch give me a call and I'll rescind it". One way or another it'll be confirned.
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
Seeing him for himself doesn’t mean anything. A neurologist declaring him legally brain dead does. Or other doctors finding him dead in others ways. To be honest - I like that approach far better than trusting the word of a governor saying “yep, I saw him.”
So, if what you’re saying is that you like the governor to get quick confirmation of his death status - yep. If you want a politician to confirm for us that he went to a hospital bed and report back to us, no thanks.
azgrak
Bershear needs to walk into the hospital and make someone stop him from walking into McConnels room. I'm curious if anyone would have the guts to physically stop a sitting governor from walking into his room. I would say his wife but she's in China being managed by her handlers.
kimwimgoddess
She came back after 3 days. She's currently redecorating her house. (honestly) she's picking out new carpet and tile.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Im pretty sure HIPPA would force the healthcare professionals hands regardless of who the patient is.
bro02tc
100% I do this to people all the time families request noone is allowed to visit or visitors must know the family password to visit. Try to go in anyways and have people arrested for trespassing.
Fyreworx
They did and it's being ignored. Don't you know you don't have to follow the laws if you're the government anymore. You just ignore it and it goes away.
Makerofroads
That's when you get a shitload of police, and show up at the fucking hospital. Get police goons, and force your way in.
RetrogradeLlama
You mean “if you’re a Republican”
Legomaniac91
If I was him, I would have issued a statement stating that his family and/or the GOP need to provide verifiable proof of life within 24 hours or the special election would proceed since McConnell is obviously unable to perform his duties.
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
When you say “they did” what are you saying happened?
ragazzino
He goes to the court for some habeas corpus action so he can do his job. They don't need to comply for others to do their job.
justheretocommentonce
Corpus indeed.
kendottack
Andy Beshear did write a letter, politely demanding proof of life. I suppose he could just call a special election and let the courts handle it. Other than that, he can't do much.
azgrak1
Beshear needs to go to the hospital and make someone physically stop him from walking into McConnell’s room.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
Ge should absolutely call for a special election, and if mitch disagrees he can speak up for himself.
OhIfIMust
I like it.
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
He should call the national guard to escort him to the hospital. If anyone attempts to impede his entrance into the hospital to see Mitch have them arrested. If he's dead have a press conference waiting outside and announce an election. Stop fucking playing nice
Californiajackson
He's probably being kept alive on life support, so technically alive...forever?
RoyDMercer
I'm aware of the letter. I find it hard to believe that there is no further action he can take.
MarkWatneysVicodinPotato
He could try to visit his government "buddy" and bring him flowers and a get well soon card. You know, to be a decent human being and no ulterior motives.
georgejimmydoodle
The Republican made sure to neuter him as much as they could. When a fascist gets elected to that office, they will reverse that and, as is the wont of all Republicans, make him king.
fknbastard
We’re only finding out in the last few years that much of our government stability is based on the idea that there’s some kind of unwritten agreement to follow the rules. As such, no one really put down on paper what to do when one side just stops following rules, norms, or even laws. Who enforces it? What’s the punishment? Can we make that punishment happen or can they ignore it? If they ignore it - again- who enforces it?
JanglesPrime
This exactly. Too much of the government is run by gentleman's agreements. And then what procedures are there are used by Republicans to stall things like with Mike Johnson refusing to swear in that Democrat House member that won her special election last year.
fknbastard
Or Obama being able to secure confirmation for Supreme Court justices. McConnell used to revel in his nickname as the Grim Reaper of democratic nominees.
NChomsky
Its been decades since the US underwent what is formally called "corporate capture", meaning the US is effectively a corporate & zionist (often one and the same) controlled terror state with ZERO accountability to its own laws. Therefore, enforcement is now possible only via direct action from a highly organized population. Problem is, Americans couldn't run a hot bath, let alone organize a sustained revolt to forcefully clear out the wall-to-wall cockroaches in congress & the orange house.
TheMilliner
Oh god, not another one of those “America is a corporation” crackpot horse-ass sovereign citizen donkey shit. That argument is only dragged out by idiots who want to avoid actually adhering to the social contract and laws. Let’s be clear here, America is a flea’s pubes from being an oligarchy, no doubt, but it isn’t a lost cause, and it certainly isn’t taking trump lying down.
AdmiralButtStuff
Oh fuck off with this nonsense. 1) Many Americans are pursuing peaceful options to resolve all of this. That's not incompetence, nor is it cowardice. It's humane and strategic. 2) Things in the US are bad, but they're not nearly as bad as you see it get in other societies before revolts begin. 3) If you want to see some bloodshed, get out there and do it yourself instead of armchair general-ing over the fucking internet.