Hardly surprising. The people signing up for this are the same ones that have been falling for Trump's schemes for years. They probably figured this signing bonus would get them out of the debt they got into by spending their savings on melaniacoins or NFTs
I saw that happen during the 2012 Quebec student strike. Cops did a micro-protest that didn't bother anyone, then went back to pepper spraying peaceful protesters as usual.
Police unions tend to do more effective methods than quiet protests. They typically just remind the wealthy and influential that they're the ones who determine when someone goes missing and if the body is found. And then their budgets get expanded and the status quo is restored.
There's a good chance no one will make if five years because the whole organization will be disbanded and under criminal investigation and prosecution by then. Pressure your elected officials to help make that a case, and pay attention to your local primaries.
If there's any justice in the world, that's how this should work. Whether there is any justice in the world seems to be up for debate right now, though.
"Background checks don't happen until after people start work" wow, great way to have unstable people with guns in position of power... oh wait, that's probably on purpose.
The ICE payout after 5 years is an interesting detail. You know because it would be after the next presidential election. If we were to have one. Sounds like the bonus is conditional on voting Orange one more time. Similar to the 2017 tax break that slowly dried up into what would have been a second term.
Hopefully the first of many FAFOs that will dog them for the rest of their lives. At the very least they shouldn't be hireable anywhere for the rest of time.
To people who can barely read, you can promise anything when they sign a contract, cause they can't actually read or comprehend the terms of the contract
I joined the Army in 2008 and I believe the maximum bonus was $45,000 for 5 years. I probably could have had $40,000 for 4. I knew Soldiers who got in trouble and lost their bonuses, but I never heard of the Army not paying otherwise. I forget when I received my first installment, but then it was $10,000 (before taxes) every year. Also, I had rules of engagement. I went on 200 missions and never saw anyone get rough with locals, although I heard of an Officer who knocked out someone who touched
They get $10k a year as a new sign on bonus for a 5 year contract. If you fail to serve all 5yrs you will be subject to clawbacks and recapture penalties and there's also some wonky stuff about student loan deferments while employed, but I don't think a lot of those guys are going to college part time for those 5 years under contract. So they get paid if they serve 5yr, but I'm not sure how many will make it that long and it seems structured to pay out as little as possible with vague penalties.
This is what I've expected the grift to be. They get a wad of cash up front, don't understand the stipulations, and spend it. Then they find out that if they don't hit a fantastical quota, they need to cough up $10K they no longer have. And now you have an army of racist dipshits staring down five digit debt being told to grab everyone they can.
You know I want to believe his claim, but I highly doubt it. Though 10 minutes of searching doesn't give me a clear/reliable answer on the (staged) bonus system.
Even if they did make it, and Trump was still in power, he'd fire them all before they hit the 5 year mark and hire new minions with the same promise. And somehow, they wouldn't have trouble finding new ones.
The grifters all expect that they'll have taken their grift and run by then, or they'll have destroyed the planet or just America to the point it doesn't matter anymore. No new administration will pay out those bonuses, and the grifters could just tell what remains of those bonus-hires, "Fuck Off." Like Trump does with his lawyers, contractors, etc.
So it's an incentive to the brown shirts to make sure the current regime is in power 5 years from now so that they get their bonuses. It's a manipulation tactic while also being a way to weasel out of paying people if you don't retain power.
So they start at around 50k a year so really making about 60k a year with bonus a little under $30 an hour. Sounds like a shit job and shit way to get your country to hate you for $30 an hour.
I read it from a Gemini response. Went back to check the source, and it’s a Guardian article, but to your point, the article did not specifically mention that it gets paid $10k/year. It just estimated that. So I’m not sure how the $50k gets paid.
Well, yeah. But they are unemployable. Sure, dangling some shiny trinkets probably got them on board but let's be real: it was either this or stealing catalytic converters
This guy doesnt even pay his own pool guy and stiffed his lawyers left and right, tbese clowns think in 5 years hes gunna set them up with 50k and for what? 10k a year to be an ice guy... woo...hoo...
They've always conned their own cult members. Buy our meme coin so we can steal your life savings! Buy our "American-made" cell phones that are actually just pictures of refurbished Samsungs! Vote for me to stop all wars and... nah, I'll just start bombing the fuck out of whoever I want and kidnapping foreign leaders for shits and giggles.
We're so worried about what the admin will do if we retaliate that we kinda forget the people that would crack down on us can be defeated by a brisk jog. Abolish ice, by any means.
It's funny they don't even give a number. If it was "...with 100 sit-ups eliminated..." okay. But without a number it seems as if 2-3 was impossible for them.
It sounds like they eliminated sit-ups altogether. If it was an issue of the number being too high for them, they might've just reduced the requirement, so you're likely right that 2-3 was too many for them.
chuckaholic
They all joined up knowing trump would be gone in less than 4 years. They are not recruiting the best people.
Skuggen
Hardly surprising. The people signing up for this are the same ones that have been falling for Trump's schemes for years. They probably figured this signing bonus would get them out of the debt they got into by spending their savings on melaniacoins or NFTs
androgenoide
Xenarion
I saw that happen during the 2012 Quebec student strike. Cops did a micro-protest that didn't bother anyone, then went back to pepper spraying peaceful protesters as usual.
modis
Their retirement is secondary to the ability to continue to exercise their power.
ArdentSlacker
Police unions tend to do more effective methods than quiet protests. They typically just remind the wealthy and influential that they're the ones who determine when someone goes missing and if the body is found. And then their budgets get expanded and the status quo is restored.
fartharder
Huh, I wonder why a 4 year administration would only pay out bonuses after 5 /s
ArdentSlacker
Conservatives can't even stop screwing people over when it isn't even their money.
Ryyyyyyyan
There's a good chance no one will make if five years because the whole organization will be disbanded and under criminal investigation and prosecution by then. Pressure your elected officials to help make that a case, and pay attention to your local primaries.
IWantedOneOfThoseLongUsernamesTooSoIGotOne
If there's any justice in the world, that's how this should work. Whether there is any justice in the world seems to be up for debate right now, though.
Xenarion
"Background checks don't happen until after people start work" wow, great way to have unstable people with guns in position of power... oh wait, that's probably on purpose.
TrueLegateDamar
Even Chief Wiggum knew to at least ask the crazy guy's name before giving him a gun.
Artoris
The ICE payout after 5 years is an interesting detail. You know because it would be after the next presidential election. If we were to have one. Sounds like the bonus is conditional on voting Orange one more time. Similar to the 2017 tax break that slowly dried up into what would have been a second term.
intaglioguy
"Firearms safety certification was eliminated because recruits couldn't pass it. Almost all the 584 recruits that washed out failed this."
MidoryMoon
Hopefully the first of many FAFOs that will dog them for the rest of their lives. At the very least they shouldn't be hireable anywhere for the rest of time.
DrKonrad
To people who can barely read, you can promise anything when they sign a contract, cause they can't actually read or comprehend the terms of the contract
MenloPart
I joined the Army in 2008 and I believe the maximum bonus was $45,000 for 5 years.
I probably could have had $40,000 for 4.
I knew Soldiers who got in trouble and lost their bonuses, but I never heard of the Army not paying otherwise.
I forget when I received my first installment, but then it was $10,000 (before taxes) every year.
Also, I had rules of engagement.
I went on 200 missions and never saw anyone get rough with locals, although I heard of an Officer who knocked out someone who touched
MenloPart
his weapon.
StopCallingMeIAmNotYourBrother
Once this presidency ends I doubt any of them will have that job, regardless of which side wins.
CookieMonstersCrumbs
They won't have that 50k they thought they were gonna get either.
barontaint
They get $10k a year as a new sign on bonus for a 5 year contract. If you fail to serve all 5yrs you will be subject to clawbacks and recapture penalties and there's also some wonky stuff about student loan deferments while employed, but I don't think a lot of those guys are going to college part time for those 5 years under contract. So they get paid if they serve 5yr, but I'm not sure how many will make it that long and it seems structured to pay out as little as possible with vague penalties.
ApplebeesOfficial
This is what I've expected the grift to be. They get a wad of cash up front, don't understand the stipulations, and spend it. Then they find out that if they don't hit a fantastical quota, they need to cough up $10K they no longer have. And now you have an army of racist dipshits staring down five digit debt being told to grab everyone they can.
yeahhedugit
They know they will have to aid the next insurrection when the Democrats win. They are paid in advance terrorists.
oukid
https://www.rawstory.com/ice-shooting-2674862836/
VancoD
Sorry, but Raw Story reporting on a piece from Daily Mail is about as "I heard it from a guy that knows a guy" as you can get.
UseTheSource
You know I want to believe his claim, but I highly doubt it. Though 10 minutes of searching doesn't give me a clear/reliable answer on the (staged) bonus system.
anender
Yeah, the ICE recruitment page is full of vague
GeorgeCostabaplaps
So what you're saying is run from the gravy boats
jaecyk10
Even if they did make it, and Trump was still in power, he'd fire them all before they hit the 5 year mark and hire new minions with the same promise. And somehow, they wouldn't have trouble finding new ones.
StarscreamAndHutch
Well. They have run out of recruitment. Thats good. The issue now is they are not getting foddered to reduce the numbers.
oldguyexlurker
The grifters all expect that they'll have taken their grift and run by then, or they'll have destroyed the planet or just America to the point it doesn't matter anymore. No new administration will pay out those bonuses, and the grifters could just tell what remains of those bonus-hires, "Fuck Off." Like Trump does with his lawyers, contractors, etc.
Deathcameawienering
Its real easy to find someone willing to kill for a paycheck, not so easy to find someone willing to die for one.....
Ostegonation
So it's an incentive to the brown shirts to make sure the current regime is in power 5 years from now so that they get their bonuses. It's a manipulation tactic while also being a way to weasel out of paying people if you don't retain power.
anender
If he cancels them in year 4, he doesn't have to pay out - amirite?
CrabbyBlueberry
You mean if they all find themselves at the end of a rope in Nuremberg?
akafluffy
Invisible dancefloors for the lot of them
Dahnzo
They get $10k each year
Mehdals
So they start at around 50k a year so really making about 60k a year with bonus a little under $30 an hour. Sounds like a shit job and shit way to get your country to hate you for $30 an hour.
StellarJay77
Racist bigots are cheap. Many of them would do the job for free.
MenloPart
Source?
Dahnzo
I read it from a Gemini response. Went back to check the source, and it’s a Guardian article, but to your point, the article did not specifically mention that it gets paid $10k/year. It just estimated that. So I’m not sure how the $50k gets paid.
KillingTlme
He could just change their name to the SS and void the pay outs.
alcamar
They'll blame Democrats for stealing 50k each from them if/when it's shut down regardless of how
anender
IDC. Couldn't happen to nicer people. They deserved to get robbed, too.
PrincessAris
Insa'allah, they'll be complaining from inside a jail cell after they're arrested for what they've done.
MadamPuddifoot
LOLOL like that'll ever happen. 😒
rumandbass
I don't doubt any of this, but would love to see a source on it.
djangojazz
They still are getting paid a shit ton to be the Gestapo.
Goatfer
They only had to do like 22 sit-ups...
bananabonanza3
Oh wow, so it’s just grifts all the way down, huh? They’re even grifting their gestapo to save a buck.
muliphen
Always has been!
FlatPlutoSociety
Of course it is. But the real bonus for these pieces of shit is the ability to abuse minorities and women with impunity.
TheJuiceLoosener
Leopards would never...
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Well, yeah. But they are unemployable. Sure, dangling some shiny trinkets probably got them on board but let's be real: it was either this or stealing catalytic converters
ZuluAssault9
This guy doesnt even pay his own pool guy and stiffed his lawyers left and right, tbese clowns think in 5 years hes gunna set them up with 50k and for what? 10k a year to be an ice guy... woo...hoo...
bananabonanza3
I’d imagine there aren’t really here for the paycheck, either. It’s just an opportunity to be racist in an official capacity
judyblue
They've always conned their own cult members. Buy our meme coin so we can steal your life savings! Buy our "American-made" cell phones that are actually just pictures of refurbished Samsungs! Vote for me to stop all wars and... nah, I'll just start bombing the fuck out of whoever I want and kidnapping foreign leaders for shits and giggles.
tinyfootprints
As usual, Trump has no intention of paying those who do his bidding. People should know this.
Sebastopol140
boevis
"with sit-ups eliminated because recruits couldn't handle them"
calenti
Well at least the proud boys and oathkeepers all got jobs.
Maverickaura
We're so worried about what the admin will do if we retaliate that we kinda forget the people that would crack down on us can be defeated by a brisk jog. Abolish ice, by any means.
AmZero85
They needed recruits who wouldn't be scared of a sandwich.
Subsound
Hegseth's fatties
IceWeaselX
R̶i̶c̶o̶'̶s̶ ̶R̶o̶u̶g̶h̶n̶e̶c̶k̶s̶
Hegseth's Hogshits
Subsound
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MyGreatestFearBoner
*Hegseth's Henckn' Heinous Hateful Halfwits
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Well, fat fucks that haven't seen their dick in a decade wouldn't be able to anyway.
fartharder
But they can do the pushups?
dentd
Belly roll, back and forth
boevis
Isn't that the country/rock singer?
Willste
If they can't do a situp, no way in hell they can do a pushup. 😆
sunyudai
Honestly, depends. Certain lower back issues could prevent l make sit ups painful while not preventing pushups.
But as an indicator of overall physical fitness... Yeah.
OutlawGerman
Footage I saw the other day showed one of the most round "dhs cops" I've ever seen. Dude easily weighed
mesquiteTex
Dean Cain couldn’t even make it through the “obstacle course”.
OutlawGerman
300lbs and had no shame in the fact his vest didn't even cover most of his body
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
It's funny they don't even give a number. If it was "...with 100 sit-ups eliminated..." okay. But without a number it seems as if 2-3 was impossible for them.
theshinobi23
It sounds like they eliminated sit-ups altogether. If it was an issue of the number being too high for them, they might've just reduced the requirement, so you're likely right that 2-3 was too many for them.
fartharder
It was 25
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
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7qd26tttv7
Six weeks is PLENTY of time to go from 2-3 reps to 25 reps for situps.
dentd
Yup. Basic was 8 weeks when I went through, and I started from zero. If I could do it, then anyone without a medical condition should be able to.