This looks cool and has a lot of neat features but I'd be worried about the lead paint and other toxic chemicals probably used to make this that are outlawed today.
Well, I'm a fan of seeing what I'm cooking. Tell me that pan he's got the Burges on is not aluminum! Not sure that top is to be cooked on but I could be wrong.
This stove cost $440 in 1952, adjusted for inflation it's $5400 in today's money. They do still ~make them like they used to~, you're just not gonna find $5000 features in your apartment's $229 stove lol.
And also they make them safer and more efficient now too. I was fuckin' nervous he was gonna accidentally touch the broiler flame when putting the patties on the back side. Now we have induction burners with no gas fumes and won't set the place on fire if you spill or drop something on them, and we've got convection air blasts that preheat way faster
Have someone come out to inspect that thing, they are prone to leaking gas like crazy. There is a reason we dont build them. They can be good but need extra care.
I tried shopping for headphones recently and every model that looked reasonably attractive touted Alexa/Siri functionality. Well fine, then, I’ll keep using my old pair.
the electonic stove my wife wanted is two years old and has bad burners, the number settings are worn off the backsplash, and you have to use a flashlight to set the oven controls.
My parents have a stove like this. O'keef and Merrit with 4 burners a central griddle, adjustable broiler and oven with a top that covers all of the eyes. Best stove i've ever seen.
Yeah it's the first hit when you type the stove name and is a site full of antique stoves. And even though it says "for sale" I don't see any way to buy them. Looks like you have to go into their little store. Their contact address is a gmail account.
Doesn't this give off a lot of toxic fumes? That's why people aren't using gas stoves anymore. It's very damaging over time. You really don't want that in your house. A drafty cabin though, sure.
There's a reason there's a vented range hood/fan over the stove. Use it and you're fine. NO CHEF is going to choose electric over gas EVER. Gas heats way faster and you have immediate control over the temp not wait a few minutes and maybe it ends up where you want.
I know a few pro chefs who have had to make the change because they just could not work with gas any longer, it made their lives miserable (headaches, nausea, blurred vision, you name it). electric/induction is not as bad as it's made out to be, if you know how to make proper use of it, but I get that there is definitely a more cozy/natural feel to cooking with gas.
I worked in the commercial kitchen ventilation industry and good god damn can you break a building with an exhaust fan. I'm going to one up over your hood suggestion and talk about makeup air - you can not just remove air from a space without putting more back in. You would think that is common sense but it is not, and it is pretty difficult/expensive to do in any real way with residential hvac systems. Gas is fine, but you have to get the combustion products out safely to make it fine.
Because it never used to be a consideration before houses got so air tight. Drafts were boons and banes. Just like most people don't realize a fireplace might heat the room it's in, but will lower the temp in the rest of the house because the airflow means the air going up the chimney gets replaced from drafty windows and doors.
todays 5000-10000 dollar appliances lasts decades too. Just like they did 70 years ago. That was an unit that cost you a lot. Like more than an nice but few years old, used chevy bel air.
This thing would have cost more than many people's homes back then. You are wanting to compare literal top of the line equipment longevity to their modern bargain basement equivalent.
People say that, but i'm almost 40 and i've never had to replace an oven. Every oven i've had has been as functional the day i moved out of a house as it was the day i moved in. Regular maintenance and care will make even the shittiest appliance last for decades.
I think a big part of the feeling things are crappier is from having the internet, if 5% of a product comes out bad pre internet you probably would have never heard of one failing but now you hear of thousands failing.
Yea... I know this is anecdotal evidence but I'm 38 and I've never in my life seen a stove replaced. I'm considering upgrading the one that came with the house I bought, but I have no justification other than I want a convection oven and a center burner.
What's was the longest duration? I bought a stove in 2008 that lasted 12 years. I did have to do a few minor repairs, but eventually the computer board went out and the cost to fix was getting close to the cost of a new one. The new one is almost 5 and the heating element just went out (under extended warranty). Interestingly I bought a washer and dryer in 2008 (when I bought my house) and they both lasted about 12 years before needing to do repairs.
The fridge lasted about 13-14 years. Dishwasher amazingly lasted around 11 years although for quite a few years it was making a really loud noise. Every repair man was shocked that it was lasting that long. Luckily it was in the other side of the house so we ran it at night while we slept. I did have a freezer bought in 2020 that lasted a few months before completely shitting itself though. The replacement had to have major repairs after 3 years
I bought a refrigerator and range/oven in 2007 and they are still going strong. Washer and dryer purchased in 2012 are fine. I replaced a microwave last year that was installed before we bought the house in 2006. The only thing I have had bad luck with is dishwashers (on our third since 2006). I think they key is we bought mid-high range models, not the cheapest thing available.
"we bought mid-high range models, not the cheapest thing available." yep this is key. We did the same and got a long life out of most of them. The freezer was an anomaly and I blame it on COVID (i think it was actually 2021 when we got it)
Ammonia is also a superior cleanser that apperantly Canada doesn't want civilians to be able to access anymore. Apparently it's because it can be used to make bombs, but so can sugar, flour, petroleum jelly, or fertilizer. I just really miss being able to just buy a fucking jug of ammonia and have my oven clean in under an hour.
The griddle that he put the burgers on is removable, you can just take it out, clean it, and put it back in (there was a another video someone posted a few days back).
The part that's on fire? You clean it the same way you clean a normal oven, crank it all the way up to a broil and let it sit for a few minutes. So, no it's not that hard to clean
Oops, good point. I kinda figure whatever spatters land on the inside of the top will just get burned up by the flames, but I don't have any experience with gas stove open flames, so maybe it doesn't work like that.
Not-so-fun fact: the reason most jobs still think of 9-5 is the norm is because that's how it was in that time, but the wife was expected to be the one to go out and pay bills, buy groceries, pick up the kids from school, and still have dinner ready while the husband worked. But hey, at least they were able to afford a home for today's lunch money with a single income household!
The idea of a single income household is propaganda from the wealthy. Most households had 2 incomes, one from a traditional job and one from whatever the mom was able to get, because if a woman was doing a job, she wasn't getting paid well for it.
(and even in wealthy households, women were expected to "run" the house like a full time job, so even then, the labour of women is treated like a hobby)
I mean, most of the world still has domestic servants. It just you need to be pretty well off to pay a livable wage, or be cool further De-Enfranchising immigrants. Although domestic help get way more affordable in weaker economies like central/South America, most Asian countries, and Africa.
WigglyBlondeNoodle
This looks cool and has a lot of neat features but I'd be worried about the lead paint and other toxic chemicals probably used to make this that are outlawed today.
totallyheckinradman
Unfortunately, there's a reason that they don't make those anymore. Cool nonetheless.
TheRedBaron8
Well, I'm a fan of seeing what I'm cooking. Tell me that pan he's got the Burges on is not aluminum! Not sure that top is to be cooked on but I could be wrong.
Medic36
No joke. Opening that recessed grill to check burgers would fling eggs onto the wall.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
I was like "What if I need to check on the burgers while my eggs were still cooking?"
Isorikk
That broiler scares me
chinesemario
Good job, that looks heavy as fuck
abidikgubidik
Am I the only one who gets bothered by people touching raw meat and then touching everything else in the kitchen without washing their hands?
VoxVocisVerum
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FeralBurnett
For the wife who LOOOOOVES to spend hours cleaning up after dinner. Cool stove but what a beast to clean.
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Oh hot DAMN
cosonfused
Next project: restoring one of these?
75townecoupe
Wanna come over and see my Chambers Model B? Wish my griddle looked like that, but it's been in constant use in the family since the 40's, I believe.
ElbowDeepInAHorse
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JustBoone
I am absolutely jealous.
BearcatFan
50’s stoves suck, as a rule and as a guy who uses one daily, but that broiler is something I deeply envy
nik282000
How to diaf
cosonfused
aren't those suckers heavy?
Trunkmonkay
This stove cost $440 in 1952, adjusted for inflation it's $5400 in today's money. They do still ~make them like they used to~, you're just not gonna find $5000 features in your apartment's $229 stove lol.
n0n53n53
and they're still between $3500 - $5000 for a good used one and upwards of $10000 fully restored
50m31AW
And also they make them safer and more efficient now too. I was fuckin' nervous he was gonna accidentally touch the broiler flame when putting the patties on the back side. Now we have induction burners with no gas fumes and won't set the place on fire if you spill or drop something on them, and we've got convection air blasts that preheat way faster
IncognitoEnthusiast
Have someone come out to inspect that thing, they are prone to leaking gas like crazy. There is a reason we dont build them. They can be good but need extra care.
howsyourmemes
Back when to whole kitchen was made of lead and asbestos
RandomDude74575
thats what i was thinking when i seen people cooking with it. gave me an uneasy feeling.
wejustdontknow
Jealous. Very.
ChaiTeaGlow
Does it have Alexa built in? cuz my stove has Alexa and I hate it with a passion.
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
I tried shopping for headphones recently and every model that looked reasonably attractive touted Alexa/Siri functionality. Well fine, then, I’ll keep using my old pair.
WorkerLurker
Because it’s a fire hazard. I want one for an outdoor kitchen I’ve always wanted though.
erinaceus
the electonic stove my wife wanted is two years old and has bad burners, the number settings are worn off the backsplash, and you have to use a flashlight to set the oven controls.
GreenMnM
My parents have the same stove. They put foil down to avoid having to clean the broiler after every single use
yyzyyz
Not antique , brand new and super expensive
PubMed12927120suckssobad
I like that wife
ObiHaiv
Nice thing about the old ones like this is they still work when the wifi is out.
goflyblind
BARP
Cook time: 30 minutes. Clean time: 6 hours. No thanks.
Huor
Weird, I posted one just like it recently: /gallery/stove-from-1950s-2FLdtil
ruint
it looks like op's stove in #1 is missing the removable cooking surface for the contact grill? would explain how it's supposed to be cleaned:
Ree81
Yeah, it's an ad campaign alright.
In your post there's a link to a company repairing this specific stove. $3500-4500 a pop.
amdkenobi
My parents have a stove like this. O'keef and Merrit with 4 burners a central griddle, adjustable broiler and oven with a top that covers all of the eyes. Best stove i've ever seen.
DidItForScience
Do you see it here? https://www.okeefe-merritts.com/okeefe--merritt-
Ree81
Aaaand there's the link to the "buy this thing". :)
DidItForScience
Yeah it's the first hit when you type the stove name and is a site full of antique stoves. And even though it says "for sale" I don't see any way to buy them. Looks like you have to go into their little store. Their contact address is a gmail account.
amdkenobi
Its this one. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a59fb2_23c531988933ae52e159e7d8c9d6c37d.jpg/v1/fill/w_720,h_720,al_c,q_85,enc_auto/a59fb2_23c531988933ae52e159e7d8c9d6c37d.jpg
LordQuorad
Doesn't this give off a lot of toxic fumes? That's why people aren't using gas stoves anymore. It's very damaging over time. You really don't want that in your house. A drafty cabin though, sure.
keebs63
Yes.
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/16/1181299405/gas-st">">https://www.npr.org/2023/06/16/1181299405/gas-stoves-pollute-homes-with-benzene-which-is-linked-to-cancer
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10901287/
JackieTreehornProductions
There's a reason there's a vented range hood/fan over the stove. Use it and you're fine. NO CHEF is going to choose electric over gas EVER. Gas heats way faster and you have immediate control over the temp not wait a few minutes and maybe it ends up where you want.
ruint
when chefs want fine control (ie for making candy) they use a standalone induction hob with digital temp settings, not a gas ring.
JackieTreehornProductions
go into any kitchen line and tell me what they're cooking on - it isn't fucking induction lmao. omg man I bet induction is less than 1% of total use.
LordQuorad
They're also not venting the exhaust directly into the kitchen. These old stoves do.
humbedooh
I know a few pro chefs who have had to make the change because they just could not work with gas any longer, it made their lives miserable (headaches, nausea, blurred vision, you name it). electric/induction is not as bad as it's made out to be, if you know how to make proper use of it, but I get that there is definitely a more cozy/natural feel to cooking with gas.
Onisa
I'd argue people not wanting to install range hoods with exhausts is more the reason, even though electric stove tops should also have them.
rmx256
I worked in the commercial kitchen ventilation industry and good god damn can you break a building with an exhaust fan. I'm going to one up over your hood suggestion and talk about makeup air - you can not just remove air from a space without putting more back in. You would think that is common sense but it is not, and it is pretty difficult/expensive to do in any real way with residential hvac systems. Gas is fine, but you have to get the combustion products out safely to make it fine.
Onisa
Because it never used to be a consideration before houses got so air tight. Drafts were boons and banes. Just like most people don't realize a fireplace might heat the room it's in, but will lower the temp in the rest of the house because the airflow means the air going up the chimney gets replaced from drafty windows and doors.
SacrificialClam
I mean, ovens today can do all those things more efficiently, they just don't looks as cool sinxe they don't use gears and cranks to operate.
stonecoldstevebuschemi
Modern stoves (for the most part), two words: planned obsolescence.
NeoAcario
and they last years... not decades, like this beast.
n0n53n53
current stoves are 1/10th the price though
SergeyPrkl
todays 5000-10000 dollar appliances lasts decades too. Just like they did 70 years ago. That was an unit that cost you a lot. Like more than an nice but few years old, used chevy bel air.
Dxoh
This thing would have cost more than many people's homes back then. You are wanting to compare literal top of the line equipment longevity to their modern bargain basement equivalent.
epithymetic
Survivorship bias… plenty of appliances from that time period broke down but the only vintage ones we see today are the ones that were well-built
AnOrdinaryWerewolf
People say that, but i'm almost 40 and i've never had to replace an oven. Every oven i've had has been as functional the day i moved out of a house as it was the day i moved in. Regular maintenance and care will make even the shittiest appliance last for decades.
trickflo
I think a big part of the feeling things are crappier is from having the internet, if 5% of a product comes out bad pre internet you probably would have never heard of one failing but now you hear of thousands failing.
Atomic2
Yea... I know this is anecdotal evidence but I'm 38 and I've never in my life seen a stove replaced. I'm considering upgrading the one that came with the house I bought, but I have no justification other than I want a convection oven and a center burner.
ZKintzer
Unfortunately this no longer applies to washers and dryers.
SergeyPrkl
i have replaced ovens. But because i wanted induction. Fully functional units and sold them on lcal "craigs list".
n0n53n53
What's was the longest duration? I bought a stove in 2008 that lasted 12 years. I did have to do a few minor repairs, but eventually the computer board went out and the cost to fix was getting close to the cost of a new one. The new one is almost 5 and the heating element just went out (under extended warranty). Interestingly I bought a washer and dryer in 2008 (when I bought my house) and they both lasted about 12 years before needing to do repairs.
n0n53n53
The fridge lasted about 13-14 years. Dishwasher amazingly lasted around 11 years although for quite a few years it was making a really loud noise. Every repair man was shocked that it was lasting that long. Luckily it was in the other side of the house so we ran it at night while we slept. I did have a freezer bought in 2020 that lasted a few months before completely shitting itself though. The replacement had to have major repairs after 3 years
ukalliq
I bought a refrigerator and range/oven in 2007 and they are still going strong. Washer and dryer purchased in 2012 are fine. I replaced a microwave last year that was installed before we bought the house in 2006. The only thing I have had bad luck with is dishwashers (on our third since 2006). I think they key is we bought mid-high range models, not the cheapest thing available.
n0n53n53
"we bought mid-high range models, not the cheapest thing available." yep this is key. We did the same and got a long life out of most of them. The freezer was an anomaly and I blame it on COVID (i think it was actually 2021 when we got it)
Exyr
The clean up on that broiler top has got to be the worst.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
I bet it comes off.
sethb1978
Yeah probably a good idea to use a griddle or something on the top
davidseavey726
I may have a nightmare over this does look difficult to clean
bitemark
There's a reason "they don't make them like this anymore"
FestusMA
Heh! Yep. There is a reason we don’t use these anymore
Magpiebones
Ovens like these also get dangerously hot on the outside while in use. Bad for pet or child home
4sambucas
it actually looks like its easier to clan than todays stoves. Its almost only flat surfaces
IrrelevantHandle
Ammonia is also a superior cleanser that apperantly Canada doesn't want civilians to be able to access anymore. Apparently it's because it can be used to make bombs, but so can sugar, flour, petroleum jelly, or fertilizer. I just really miss being able to just buy a fucking jug of ammonia and have my oven clean in under an hour.
TheGodEmperorOfChaos
The broiler pans* are easily removable for cleaning, just pop them out. https://youtube.com/shorts/ojUhwK6a_cc
ParallelParkingInABurka
The griddle that he put the burgers on is removable, you can just take it out, clean it, and put it back in (there was a another video someone posted a few days back).
Astramancer
What about the grease splatter on the sides and top?
sparmek
The part that's on fire? You clean it the same way you clean a normal oven, crank it all the way up to a broil and let it sit for a few minutes. So, no it's not that hard to clean
mrsdowneyjr
They said "top"
ParallelParkingInABurka
Oops, good point. I kinda figure whatever spatters land on the inside of the top will just get burned up by the flames, but I don't have any experience with gas stove open flames, so maybe it doesn't work like that.
ChicksDigTrucks
In 1952, there was probably someone at home just cleaning all day.
MadamPuddifoot
"someone".
ongabonga
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Imadeanaccounttofavandforget
Not-so-fun fact: the reason most jobs still think of 9-5 is the norm is because that's how it was in that time, but the wife was expected to be the one to go out and pay bills, buy groceries, pick up the kids from school, and still have dinner ready while the husband worked. But hey, at least they were able to afford a home for today's lunch money with a single income household!
nitemayr
The idea of a single income household is propaganda from the wealthy. Most households had 2 incomes, one from a traditional job and one from whatever the mom was able to get, because if a woman was doing a job, she wasn't getting paid well for it.
(and even in wealthy households, women were expected to "run" the house like a full time job, so even then, the labour of women is treated like a hobby)
ThinkThisOut
My wife is home all day and no, no time to do that. I wfh plenty and she’s always moving.
Germankipp
There was "the help" also
RAJrios
And non-stagnant wages.
SergeyPrkl
Yeah, here german "Pervitin" was housewives best friend in the 40's and 50's. Yes, it is meth.
spinbutton3
My grandmother had a maid who also cooked. OMG she was such a good cook. I still miss her rice. But their stove wasn't nearly this cool
Lutki
I mean, most of the world still has domestic servants. It just you need to be pretty well off to pay a livable wage, or be cool further De-Enfranchising immigrants. Although domestic help get way more affordable in weaker economies like central/South America, most Asian countries, and Africa.