Terrified

Jul 28, 2022 2:56 PM

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This will likely die in usersub, but I can't just let this sit inside me.

Been teaching taekwondo for decades. Finally decided to start competing again a few years ago. (previous results from 2019 are on IMGUR). Finals of this year took a head kick and went down. Lost, but i'm ok with that. He was a good fighter. Get checked out by medical, all seems fine.

Two weeks later; Sunday night, date night with my wife at a classical concert. As the show goes on, i get dizzier, and feel nauseous. Didn't feel great at dinner, but didn't think anything of it. Attempt to walk outside to get some air, she comes with me, and SUPER glad she did. I don't think i would have made it on my own. I made it as far as the outside hand railing before i collapse and start emptying my stomach in the bushes.

Start shaking, Medical has to come get me. Can't stand or walk on my own. End up in an ER ride to the hospital. CT scans, blood work, everything. Nothing they can really see wrong. Nausea finally subsides, but dizziness and poor balance persist. I have a follow up with my GP tuesday (5 days away). In the meantime, i have little appetite, am tired, dizzy, and struggle to walk around the house.

I've been injured before. I'm fine with that. But this is different. This has taken it all way from me in one moment. I'm terrified that this is going to be permanent, and everything i've worked my whole life to be good at is going to be gone in an instant.

This is probably just screaming into the void. And i'm desperate that I'm wrong here. Because i don't know what to do anymore. I tried to wrap myself in a blanket and fell down and couldn't stop crying.

EDIT: Front page? Jeez. But to let everyone know, i have an appointment tuesday morning wtih a GP, who will likely refer me to ENT and/or Neurologst. And if my symptoms get any worse, there is an ER 15 minutes from my house and my wife can take me.

Specialist- neuro asap. Find one that specializes in sports injury.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Sounds like Meniere's disease... get tested for it

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

First things first.. get some trusted people massage your neck gently... Some one who can feel your muscels and spine. Your feeling is 1#

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Could be delayed concussion. Also investigate labrynthitis -sudden onset - dizzy 24 hours for weeks. It's horrendous.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You need a MRI a Ct can’t always get a good picture good luck Imgur friend get a couple of opinions

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hoping you will be okay

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've got Long Covid and I've had dizziness like that for a year. Hope yours passes faster than that. No CT scan or anything in 12 months.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Now you just have to learn the way of the drunken master so the stumbling seems legit.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Upvoting to offer a small bit of support.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I used to do taekwondo before I dislocated and permanently injured my hip. I hope you get better op.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Good health!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Billy Mays died from a suitcase falling at airplane overhead compartment height. Get help fast

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I really don't understand combat sports. What's the point? Boxing, martial arts, wrestling. Same thing.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Concussions can be a bitch and persistent. Can be months before they subside and have to avoid the things that make symptoms worse.Good luck

4 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

New someone who had projector screen fall and concuss them. Happened in college and they had to take 2 semesters off. Screens and reading /1

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Would cause migraines, and they could only do each in small doses.They had days where they couldnt do much of anything but it did get better

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Dude pm me. I am a tkd black belt and compete. It might be a concussion but might not be. I have a similar issue and might help

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sent you a DM. I suffered an extremely similar occurrence.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Any inner ear dmg? Sounds like some of this could be from. BPVV.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You need a referral to an ENT Doc (Ear, Nose, and Throat) and/or a Neurologist.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The Home Epley Maneuver might help you... https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?contenttypeid=135&contentid=405

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

this instantly corrected my vertigo. Now I’m just down to feeling like I’m walking on a boat 24/7.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you had a mild cold or sth like that lately you might have vestibular neuritis, there’s something going around. 1/2

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Lots of people had it where I live lately. Easy to treat with some steroids

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In addition to a neurologist for in depth look at your brain, see an ENT. Could be some small weird overlookable ear issue caused by impact.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Talk to a doctor, make them aware of your concerns, get another opinion if you aren't comfortable with the answers. Ask a lot of questions

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Sorry to hear you're terrified. You might schedule for an ENT evaluation. I had an inner ear issue with vertigo. Couldn't get out of bed

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

without being nauseous & dizzy. Put me on antivert but it took a few months. Hoping that you'll soon be feeling better soon. Let us know

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Most likely a concussion with inner ear swelling causing balance issues and nausea. You'll be okay. Stop fighting. Dont be like NFL players.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Something to consider: did they do a CTA (ie the CT but with arterial phase contrast)? Vertebral artery dissection might be missed otherwise

4 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 0

If in the US, probably not. Getting insurance to approve a CTA is rough!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I work in Neurology, do this, also just a plain CT head to start if you haven't had one

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I had all the classic signs of it and it took til I was with a PT doc for them to notice it wasn't just stiff muscles

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Sorry 5o hear. Easily overlooked unless it is thought of overtly as it can be really subtle

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That sounds like a concussion. Combat sports can be a bitch when something goes wrong.

4 years ago | Likes 698 Dislikes 1

And people wonder why some youtubers don't want to participate in that whole youtuber boxing thing they've got going on. All it takes is >

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

> one blow to the head, doesn't matter if it's a kick, the floor, a punch, whatever, and this sorta thing or much worse could happen.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just heard an interview with Brianna Scurry.A blow to the head in the goal caused constant headache, she had occipital nerve release surgery

4 years ago | Likes 79 Dislikes 0

Been there, done that. Had a steel helmet on! Take it easy. Concussions are no joke. Competing at the level you can get them... is.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

No type of helmet can prevent concussions bc its the brain hitting the inside of the skull. Helmets protect against lacerations and face fx

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just posting this in a couple of spots but check your DMs. I had an almost identical occurence and I compete in tkd. We should talk.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Wouldn't take 2 weeks to emerge tho, surely? Sounds more like vestibular system to me, tho obv need to rule out neurological to be safe.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Maybe jarred a little clot loose or something? And now it's somewhere cause issues?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

After 2 weeks a concussion is highly unlikely. Mine was an ocular vestibular problem which manifested very suddenly after about 2 weeks.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

OP took a head kick. OP went down. Concussion = obvious. whether initially from the blow or whiplash. I assume that OP did not (1/

4 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 0

When they bounce their heads off the hard floor... that sound is the worst

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pretty sure that was the sound of my first concussion. Also the first time I tried to kiss a girl.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

interpret his concussion (or those around him) to be of the intermediate or severe types from a basic symptoms checklist. The brain is (2/

4 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 0

still a curious thing. Hope OP gets the best care possible.

4 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Also repetitive mild head traumas have cumulative effect, sports that cause them can be dangerous even without a single severe trauma.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

For sure. Slow bleeds are a thing, and can cause effects like this weeks after a head injury. Smart that op's wife got him to the ER.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

No no no. He would be dead by now and they would have seen a slow bleed on CT. They show up within 24ish hrs.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I experienced the same symptoms when a crystal disloged in my left ear from head trauma.

4 years ago | Likes 218 Dislikes 0

@op same here, i was going to mention that too. got up and everything was pitching, rolling and yawing WILDLY. i fell against a wall and >

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

> couldn't get up. i had to crawl 3m to the shower and spent 5 hours throwing up before i could call emergency services. 24hours for it to >

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

> subside a bit, 3days where just turning my head normally would send me to the ground. couple more weeks and i was completely fine though.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was coming down here to say that sounds like an inner ear issue, kuck caused the damage, vibration from the music made it worse

4 years ago | Likes 124 Dislikes 0

Head a mild case of dislodged inner ear crystals. Nausea, trouble with balance, vertigo. Docter advised some simple exercises. Problem gone

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Same.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Vertigo has very similar symptoms..

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Came to say this too. A friends wife suffered from this for a few months before they stumbled upon this and managed to get it fixed.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Happened to me too, lost all sense of direction. It's horrible, luckily not permanent ?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was looking for this, ppl always look at me like I'm crazy but my dad had an issue with his inner ear like this. Head injury. They turnedhis

4 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

Head around some weird ways and got stuff back where it's supposed to be and it was all good just like that.

4 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

That’s the Epley Maneuver, it’s been a game changer for my vertigo

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

took a knee to the temple during jiu jitsu & had this happen. one of the most annoying injuries i’ve ever had the pleasure of experiencing

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This. I have a friend who went through this as well. BPPV.

4 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

Otoliths. Got a loose one myself, the vertigo gets so bad I can't stand up. All it takes is turning my head rapidly while lying down.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wow, learn something new every day.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup they’re a thing!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I have chronic vertigo and this was the first thing they checked for. Call a neurologist first, but a good ent should be the second call.

4 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

You might as well start calling that Ent now, you'll be done with the first call before they pick up the phone.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

So true.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes! The same happened to me, went back to normal a few weeks after with symptom-suppressing medication, rest and a tiny bit of reeducation.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

That's what I was thinking as I read the post. If that's what it is then it's a simple fix.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

A crystal?

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Otoliths and staticonia in the inner ear.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sounds crazy, right? My parents each had the same crazy ear crystal thing. Same symptoms as op.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Goes away, though? You recovered okay?

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Some people have it forever.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It took about a month to go away. Mine was severe and Epley maneuver did not work.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Mine comes back at least once a year. Sleeping straight up, no sudden movements/turns of head. OTH Meclizine 25mg helps

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Get checked for Meniere's disease?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Zofran is amazing. I have a prescription for this reason. Epley works, but that first one with the vestibular therapist was a wild ride

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was BEYOND wild!! Think I threw up everything but my nuts during and after vestibular testing... THANKS for sharing.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My dude, you have increased intracranial pressure, you need help ASAP

4 years ago | Likes 283 Dislikes 15

Cant walk straight?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

Oh shit this dude watched a medical show on TV!!

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Would have shown on his CT

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 25

Nope.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

The vast majority will, esp if the pt is young and doesn't have cerebral atrophy. But this case in no way sounds like increased ICP anyway

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

That’s why I said “nope”. He’s got a loose otolith in a semicircular canal, probably. Needs an ENT doc.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'd rather get a CTA first to make sure my brainstem isn't dying and causing central vertigo before the ENT visit if I was him

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I did concussion protocols at the event. And a couple days ago I was in the ER with full CT scans and all. They saw nothing bad. I'm scared.

4 years ago | Likes 132 Dislikes 0

Call a neurologist TODAY

4 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

ER simply checks to make sure that you're not about to die RIGHT THEN. Get yourself to a neurologist

4 years ago | Likes 109 Dislikes 0

Isn't it a standard practice for neurologists to come down to the ER and examine patient on the spot, and decide if further treatment is ...

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

.. necessary, and if the patient has to be admitted? At my clinic in Germany it is. Same with the internal medicine and trauma surgeons

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You have to jump through some hoops and have some money to get that in depth in the US.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Oh... well this made me sad

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The ER told me that too. They are not trained or equipped to credibly deal with head injuries.

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

The resolution on CT isn’t good enough to see injuries at the cellular level which is where yours are.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Coming from someone who has BPPV, it’s not permanent. It will likely return intermittently. Know your triggers and learn Epley Maneuver.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

As a fellow TKD enthusiast (was on national level at one point) who sadly had to give it up due to the appearance of a chronic muscle

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Illness… I relate and understand your feelings my friend. Hopefully your story will go different but know that there is life after m8

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The ER isn't your place. See neurology asap. The ER is notorious for missing things; call all the neurologist offices in your area today.

4 years ago | Likes 179 Dislikes 4

Yeah the ER is looking for something that will kill you in the next 8 to 12 hours. Not necessarily stuff that is a long-term illness or inju

4 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

They do a lumbar puncture?

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I don't know. Was too drugged out at the time. I only know the CT scans because they were on the paperwork

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Get neurology and the ENT advice, balance/dizziness is sorted by the vestibular system which is located in the ear. GL

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I’m pretty sure you’d know the lumbar puncture, it’s not fun. Look I’m not a trained professional, but you should get a second opinion

4 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Yeah you would have been on your side with what feels like a dull spoon piercing your actual spinal cord. Memorable.

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