I was just thinking... Won't abusing the installation like this weaken it, making it more likely to break later? Also, i believe white netting is less UV stable than proper UV protected black fiber, so how well will this do after a year of sunlight?
I assume that's the uhh lawyer was it? That kept throwing himself on the glass in a high ride saying it was unbreakable but then the whole panel came out of the frame ?
Exactly! Thats why race car drivers can survive what seems like an insane flipping crash, where as the crashes that stop quickly, but seem less violent, are actually much deadlier. Having said that, it did focus his fall energy on a smaller point in his stomach area, full of rupturable spleens and kidneys and such. Either way, he ain't okay.
Toronto had one called Gary Hoy that threw himself against a office 24th floor window to show it was unbreakable only to fall to his death. As much as I think it's good to want to prove your work is safe, I'm pretty sure there is a non-life threatening way to do it.
At no point in this demo does this man not have 2 points of contact... Still risky, but less life-threatening than literally running full tilt with no bracing at all. So, technically, we did?
Remember the plexiglass commercial when the CEO went to jump out the window and it didn't break? Unless that was a fever dream... Or a movie?.... I'm pretty sure they did it in the Hudsucker Proxy
In defense of the window, it didn't break, the whole pane popped out of the frame, likely weakened from all the previous times he'd thrown himself in to it
Proof that the inanimate object method is definitely safer for the presenter - but the theatricality turned from drama to comedy. I think the issue might be theatrics.
Yeah, this tells me is that this man is willing to risk people's lives unnecessarily, which is kind of exactly the _wrong_ attribute you want from someone running a company that produces safety equipment. He also clearly trusts the work -- at this one installation site, not necessarily anywhere else -- which is a positive, but together they kinda cancel each other out.
I couldn't even imagine what the students who were there thought after he fell. Like do we get an A? becasue our instructor jumped out of a window to his death for a demonstration
Structural engineer Bob Greer said "I don't know of any building code in the world that would allow a 73 kg (160 lb) man to run up against a glass and withstand it."
After reading the wiki of his death the engineer in me is a wondering if he kept running into the SAME glass window. Just nudging the clips out slowly by a few thousands of an inch until he finally knocked it out.
That was the impression I had when I read the story WAY back. He had been careful in the beginning, and it built his confidence. That was the SAFE window. That one was repeatedly tested. He KNEW that one was ok to use for his trick.
It's a good lesson for everyone. Just because something was safe before, and YOU haven't changed, doesn't mean that the situation didn't change without you noticing.
That's why drinking and driving is dangerous. Other drivers and road conditions.
The issue is that people that drive intoxicated know that their reaction time is slower so they are more cautious to make up for it. And it actually does balance out THEIR driving. They think that's enough.
But it's being able to react to everyone else that stops accidents. It's being able to stop when someone runs a light, or runs across the street, or is walking on the side in dark clothes.
That's the part they can't adjust for, and that's what needs to be beaten into their heads.
Agreed. Horrible way to go but sometimes it’s also wiser to just NOT tempt fate. Just cause you got a bullet proof vest doesn’t mean you should casually test it out on yourself.
The Space Shuttle always had a problem with the o-rings in the boosters. Each time that they suffered more damage than they were supposed to, engineers said "huh, I guess more damage is still safe and we don't need to worry about it." And they did that until reality raised its hand.
Horrible way to go about it but I am pretty confident the working solution would have been to install new o rings every time and they said no because of labor cost and time. The most common troupe I seen in aerospace as to why no one implemented a correction or update to maintenance is because it will cause delays and cost more money then what they original quoted.
Material fatigue is a thing. It was his favorite stunt to do to "impress" people. You can properly install a door, but if you use a ram on it every day, it will eventually break, it will take longer, but it will break.
Nope. Guy's name was Garry Hoy and his estate did not even try to sue after being advised they would not have a case and manufacturers would not be held liable. All the defense has to prove is that the product was deliberately used outside the predictable realm of common intended use and responsibility. In contrast, the "Checkov" vs Jeep situation, Jeep was aware of reports of users missing "PARK" in normal use due to bad engineering. They had begun a recall. That claim was settled/awarded.
nikinnorway12
Jesus. It's good to be confident in your installation, but you can never be confident in the manufacture.
GorillaFLicks
Now that’s a little something to pucker the ol’ sphincter
That’s a big nope-the-fuck o’clock from me.
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
Gary Hoy did that once to demonstrate the strength of skyscraper glass….once.
SilverFoxChaser
According to the wiki he'd do it as a way to show off to new employees. One day the glass fell out of the frame.
magila
Russian oligarcs will be installing this wherever they live.
D1Puck1T
"Men die in accidents more often than women."
CeoHuntingSeason
Men also have -in average- better stories to tell
baturro
And that's no accident.
Ghlargh
I was just thinking... Won't abusing the installation like this weaken it, making it more likely to break later?
Also, i believe white netting is less UV stable than proper UV protected black fiber, so how well will this do after a year of sunlight?
JosXII
give a child 1 minute and he will figure out to get on the other side of it
RooGryphon
This child arrives with wire cutters
SlaaneshiRightsFront
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eXAxN2FlcWd6OTFucWF1OGNwbzg1MjJlYjNsNzloeTQ0MmtzdDUyayZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/O9HeC49RBpLpUj0ein/200w.webp
backrideup9
Bring a $5 pair of wire cutters with me, got it.
TMPudding
But will it keep him in on a full moon?
WilliamTheGray
That's what the peanut butter and XL kong are for.
CloseupCaptionReaction
When the fullmoon gooner is chasing him?
HarrLeighQuinn
Imagine being the customer when he falls through!
Mithi
"Well good we caught this problem early on!"
Hoiloidl
Time to call for a refund!
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Idiots tend to be very confident, I think there's a name for it
bchbum6
All I could think was there are days when I feel that level of desperation to end it.
Cosmicfisherman
Might be an effective drone deterrent?Keep the blast from the foundational Infrastructure a bit?
guardianzero
did we learn nothing from Garry Hoy?
hiyesthisissatan
I mean the glass technically didn't break.
KaptainObveeus
I assume that's the uhh lawyer was it? That kept throwing himself on the glass in a high ride saying it was unbreakable but then the whole panel came out of the frame ?
snarkybitch
Tbf the glass didnt break the frame popped out
DisUsernameAmsDildos
Dead is dead, can't argue your case from the grave
Atomic2
Case in point. You can trust the product, but how much do you trust everything else involved?
snarkybitch
Very good point
LucidPariah
I could honestly see chunks of the building the fence is attached to letting go
DongleDingler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy
DeltaBladeX
Thanks, now I'm reading this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths_in_the_20th_century
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Thank you!!!
Vortexhelios320
Yeah, he said:
"FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK".
fknbastard
I think he actually said, “FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU—“
halfabubbleoff
I think it was
“FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…..splat”
Thorketil
ˢᵖˡᵃᵗ
Racealistic
He stands by his work i respek
floridaguy5867
And if there's a fire?
parabolic000
Garth Ennis cooked with Punisher MAX and basically only that.
shardix
I don't necessarily disagree but I'm not sure how that's relevant?

robkyky
Can't people just cut it??
ChetinBey
I could get through that easily. I own a pair of scissors.
AllAnusMorissette
incompetent installer's demo:
https://imgur.com/LgFAA4A.mp4
petonious
Per second- per second.
4etherling
He installed his nuts in that fence.
OperatorWay
moaihead
Yikes and away... yikes and away...yikes and away...
Bystandr
Lucky that fence was there to break his fall. (/s)
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
no /s - the mesh and pipe did cushion the landing a lot
ojisama
It did bend, so perhaps not all bad
RandallKavanaugh
Agreed. repeated small hits siphoning off kinetic energy are always better then one single hit absorbing everything
911Poopoo
Exactly! Thats why race car drivers can survive what seems like an insane flipping crash, where as the crashes that stop quickly, but seem less violent, are actually much deadlier. Having said that, it did focus his fall energy on a smaller point in his stomach area, full of rupturable spleens and kidneys and such. Either way, he ain't okay.
Skyhighatrist2
He's balls helped quite a bit as well
prufock
What, uh... what did he expect to happen there?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
land on the tree like a 170 lb squirrel
Snezko
the fuck at the end seals it in nice
TheobromineAddict
Poor Gary Hoy. Nobody would remember him now if it wasn't for that one monumentally stupid demonstration.
ThierryVernet
his has not tried with his children
ChefHannibal
yeah, it works, dude. fuckin quit.
YippeeKayakOB
Garry Hoy, though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy
albakSPrince
let me pick the balcony he jumps off
theduckening
Toronto had one called Gary Hoy that threw himself against a office 24th floor window to show it was unbreakable only to fall to his death. As much as I think it's good to want to prove your work is safe, I'm pretty sure there is a non-life threatening way to do it.
YELLOWnotYELLOW
Came to say this!
Imissmylurk
At no point in this demo does this man not have 2 points of contact... Still risky, but less life-threatening than literally running full tilt with no bracing at all. So, technically, we did?
H2ONerd
Remember the plexiglass commercial when the CEO went to jump out the window and it didn't break? Unless that was a fever dream... Or a movie?.... I'm pretty sure they did it in the Hudsucker Proxy
GlenL
In defense of the window, it didn't break, the whole pane popped out of the frame, likely weakened from all the previous times he'd thrown himself in to it
arikelrecords2000
He trusted it and was willing to die on that hill
Canigetbannedagain2
So... Throw someone else?
AtmaDarkwolf
Also too idk if i'd wanna live in a fucking chicken pen. And chainlinked(looking) guards on the balcony sure do feel that way.
Snooj
His hands don't leave the railing for the first part of it.
Harm
Use your locally-sourced CEO.
Astralglide
He was demonstrating that to a class of children after one asked him about it.
SavageDrums
It didn't break, but the frame came apart, IIRC
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Like throwing an inanimate object against the window - but where’s the theatricality in that?
WilliamTheGray
At under 30 floors the body will bounce when it hits the ground. THEATER!!!
rouzuki
Really? Then the new resident evil movie screwed up big time in the raining zombies trailer.
WilliamTheGray
All I know is top floor was 30th, and he bounced. Though if they're slightly decayed, maybe more splat?
ChicanoBatman
Musk and the bullet proof truck has entered the chat
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Proof that the inanimate object method is definitely safer for the presenter - but the theatricality turned from drama to comedy. I think the issue might be theatrics.
Corrodias
Yeah, this tells me is that this man is willing to risk people's lives unnecessarily, which is kind of exactly the _wrong_ attribute you want from someone running a company that produces safety equipment. He also clearly trusts the work -- at this one installation site, not necessarily anywhere else -- which is a positive, but together they kinda cancel each other out.
BubblesTheFish
Yeah I would absolutely not take their work simply out of principle at that point.
RuminatingYak
The worst part is that he was right. The window did not break, he knocked out the entire frame: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy
FTUG
I couldn't even imagine what the students who were there thought after he fell. Like do we get an A? becasue our instructor jumped out of a window to his death for a demonstration
RibbleTPibits
You know what you have to do, carry on.
cronkey
I think the worst part was when he fell from the 24th floor.
RuminatingYak
Or maybe it was when he hit the ground.
freezingpilot
Structural engineer Bob Greer said "I don't know of any building code in the world that would allow a 73 kg (160 lb) man to run up against a glass and withstand it."
1Lhell
As a practical matter
rockmanx853000
After reading the wiki of his death the engineer in me is a wondering if he kept running into the SAME glass window. Just nudging the clips out slowly by a few thousands of an inch until he finally knocked it out.
1Lhell
My guess is he was suicidal
jasondeslin
That was the impression I had when I read the story WAY back. He had been careful in the beginning, and it built his confidence. That was the SAFE window. That one was repeatedly tested. He KNEW that one was ok to use for his trick.
It's a good lesson for everyone. Just because something was safe before, and YOU haven't changed, doesn't mean that the situation didn't change without you noticing.
That's why drinking and driving is dangerous. Other drivers and road conditions.
1Lhell
Not just other drivers, drinking impairs your faculties
jasondeslin
The issue is that people that drive intoxicated know that their reaction time is slower so they are more cautious to make up for it. And it actually does balance out THEIR driving. They think that's enough.
But it's being able to react to everyone else that stops accidents. It's being able to stop when someone runs a light, or runs across the street, or is walking on the side in dark clothes.
That's the part they can't adjust for, and that's what needs to be beaten into their heads.
rockmanx853000
Agreed. Horrible way to go but sometimes it’s also wiser to just NOT tempt fate. Just cause you got a bullet proof vest doesn’t mean you should casually test it out on yourself.
DoubleOhTwentyEight
The Space Shuttle always had a problem with the o-rings in the boosters. Each time that they suffered more damage than they were supposed to, engineers said "huh, I guess more damage is still safe and we don't need to worry about it." And they did that until reality raised its hand.
rockmanx853000
Horrible way to go about it but I am pretty confident the working solution would have been to install new o rings every time and they said no because of labor cost and time. The most common troupe I seen in aerospace as to why no one implemented a correction or update to maintenance is because it will cause delays and cost more money then what they original quoted.
1Lhell
So money over human life, that’s not cool.
FTUG
It should be noted that the glass didnt break from him running into it but the window itself popped out.
Astralglide
He should’ve tried to ride it like a carpet
HandoB4Javert
Followed moments later by this sound?
dudeinjapan
Those things are just held in the stainless steel clips. They are pretty strong, but…
HavelTh3Rock
Only as strong as its weakest part.
Ghlargh
If you throw a grown man at the same window a few hundred times...
1Lhell
So bad installation
GlenL
They didn't design it to have an adult man throw his full weight in to it multiple times
unluckyandbored
The installation was up to code. It simply wasn't designed to have people running into it.
MapleSyrupMafia
He did it multiple times before it finally broke.
guitarfourtysix
(Trust like his is why they put warning stickers on hammers.)
Elonth
So bad Installation. A good installation will remain good until the hotel itself is in complete disrepair and slated for demolition.
GlenL
In what universe do you live where a proper install can override the laws of physics?
MapleSyrupMafia
Material fatigue is a thing. It was his favorite stunt to do to "impress" people. You can properly install a door, but if you use a ram on it every day, it will eventually break, it will take longer, but it will break.
guitarfourtysix
Nope. Guy's name was Garry Hoy and his estate did not even try to sue after being advised they would not have a case and manufacturers would not be held liable. All the defense has to prove is that the product was deliberately used outside the predictable realm of common intended use and responsibility. In contrast, the "Checkov" vs Jeep situation, Jeep was aware of reports of users missing "PARK" in normal use due to bad engineering. They had begun a recall. That claim was settled/awarded.