This comment would actually make him want to hire someone effective to clean it up. He still wouldn't pay them but he may tell the minions to choose better.
Originally it was deeper before the orange guy made it great again, if he had ever given a thought to climate change then perhaps he'd have a catastrophic stroke
Did they spend millions to clean and refurb that pond?? I guess it was all for nothing if it still turned icky anyway. Thanks Trump, another way to waste taxpayer's money
well, technically no, they didn't spend a penny. They spent OUR money on this boondoggle. If only there was a way to claw back our billions from these scammers.
They aren't even using enough peroxide to kill the algae bloom. In fact, watered down hydrogen peroxide is sometimes used in plant care to fight off pests and fungus.
Algae regrowing has been a problem every time the pool has been fixed. This shouldn't have been a surprise. This was caused by cutting corners and the needed timeline to do the job right. This was just another grift. Went from $3 million to $14 million and still did a shit job so the birthday boy could have his pool.
Controlled lab suppliers can go much higher. But you need licenses and government approval for that kind of stuff. Not exactly something just anyone can go online and order.
From what I saw, if they had done any sort of research beforehand, this is basically a known issue where the pipes leading to the pool fill with algae during any maintenance. Leads to blooms on starting it up. So I assume they did no pre-work to stop it, or even knew about it.
Other way around - too warm and the algae can’t survive - should have painted it black. Then the reflection would have been even more pronounced. Light blue would absorb less and allow more favorable conditions for algae.
I mean, there is no real solution. The inflow is connected to the tidal basin, which is connected to the potomac. Even if you treat the inflow pipes, I doubt you can guarantee not one cell of algae can make the transit. And there's overflow active every time it rains, to take out anything you put into it.
I agree. I think the idea is there's ways to get ahead of it so you don't have a sudden full on bloom. Considering all the attention to the pool they could've easily solved the bad press by just pointing out that it was going to happen before hand as a natural part of refilling it. Instead they appeared to be completely unaware that it was a possibility.
The reflecting pools are kind of a perfect storm for algae, and once it gets in it can double its mass daily in the right circumstances - some species of algae, that's down to 8 hours, for certain species in perfect circumstances.
Tons of sun, tons of duckshit as nutrition, and anything that eats algae is also duck food. I'm not sure there is a way to get ahead of it. You can slow down the amount that gets in, reduce initial mass, but once it's in, it's in.
I remember this....that light kills everything, not just the virus. This is why people need to learn science in school. Don't let them pass highschool unless they pass with at least 80%. Stop this idiocy.
Well, that would be a predator and yes, you should have. Still can out him if hes still employed at that school. Doesn't negate the fact that we have too few people who understand science and we require people to learn or we will keep getting stupid people doing stupid things.
He got in trouble for saying something to a female staff member that was sexual and there was an argument. She got fired and he got suspended. We need good teachers, but I guess my point was that even those who we look to for better knowledge can be corrupt. I'm from a "red district" in the US, so many of my teachers were shit.
To be honest it's par for the course for Republicans/MAGAs.
They come up with an insane and unnecessary idea, half ass it by giving the project to someone who is cheap or who could use the money because they know someone or have outright bribed them but they don't have the capacity or knowledge to do the job right.
Then it inevitably goes wrong because they half assed it, try to salvage the situation but either making it worse or no change at all.
I was cracking up so hard with the dude who went to like Wal-Mart to get it. Like no brother A) You need a tanker truck and B) This isn't going to stop NEW WATER flowing in and regrowing algae. I damn near choked on the air in my lungs.
They are using the cheapest solution and too little of it. I've seen this before. This is to show "we are doing something" while doing basically nothing. And what people don't understand, is those big numbers. So everything ok , for the uneducated.
I have an 8,000 gallon pool and to kill the algae each season, I use 1/2 gallon of 30% H2O2 solution. No one in this administration can do simple math.
That says they'll need 800 to 1000 gallons, and I'm sure their algae problem is already much worse than your pool. Not to mention, they are adding polluted make-up water from the Potomac, not the chlorinated water you are using. You are also actively filtering and treating with chlorine and they are not.
They already did at the start of the project ("Haha Obama repaired the pool way for way more money and it was still broken, of course Trump has to fix it, nobody builds pools better than Trump" type shit.
Home Depot sells 12% at $22. They have low markup... so it probably doesn't cost them a whole lot less. But, assuming you could get it for $10/gal in volume, the 3500 gals/week would be $35,000 per week, or $2M per year for peroxide.
But that's OK: they can just starve some more kids on SNAP to pay for it. ?S
It gets worse. There are inflow and outflow channels. One connects to the tidal basin, to replenish losses from evaporation. One is an overflow, to prevent flooding from rainfall. So water (and peroxide) is flowing out every time it rains. And the Tidal basin is connected to the Potomac, which will replenish the algae. . There is no solution here unless they want to engineer a micro-ecosystem.
Nah, it's always been an issue. But they drained it, cleaned it out, and repainted the bottom and sides a brighter blue. Now, when algae blooms you have a clean bright blue backdrop to see it against.
Probably powdered bleach. Peroxide is often marketed as "chlorine free bleach" in the US, so it's probably based on a misunderstanding that peroxide and sodium hypochlorite are somehow related chemicals?
H2O2 would not get "filtered out" by any plant anyway. It reacts with organic and inorganic compounds to produce H2O and O2 in that process. Meanwhile, the organic part gets usually destroyed. H2O2 based chemicals are safe to be dumped in the drain and are relatively environment friendly compared to other compounds like bleach.
DickMcStiffens
Why not white out?
Lokster
You know, if you don't take pictures of the pool, there will be no algae!
LogicalLimes
Hmmm. Aiight. What are they doing to kill off the growth in the White House?
B0ardski
peroxide does a good job of cutting through slime
IWantToHugEveryCat
poor ducks
UncleRat
Algae is an excellent biofuel. Looks like Trump has helped the green economy again.
Madalchemist2018
This comment would actually make him want to hire someone effective to clean it up. He still wouldn't pay them but he may tell the minions to choose better.
OregonComputerGuy
Originally it was deeper before the orange guy made it great again, if he had ever given a thought to climate change then perhaps he'd have a catastrophic stroke
thotterpop
If i got paid by the hour for this administration...
CaptnRobAnybody
like you would get paid by this administration
Sechran
If this was a sitcom, this Mr. Bean caliber bungling would be hilarious.
Since it's real life, it's mostly just sad.
FlintNorth44
Infuriating. Not for the monument, at least for me. It's the constant scam that is allowed to continue by the senate, congress, and supremacy court.
derekjohn
It's in character, he's always liked peroxide blondes.
FlintNorth44
BikerRay
Maybe try Ivermectin. I heard it worked for Covid.
anaberration
MAGA: Make Algae Great Again...
YoWilykat
Did they spend millions to clean and refurb that pond?? I guess it was all for nothing if it still turned icky anyway. Thanks Trump, another way to waste taxpayer's money
rubypilgrim
well, technically no, they didn't spend a penny. They spent OUR money on this boondoggle. If only there was a way to claw back our billions from these scammers.
honeybadgersRus
This is going to leak/leach and kill all the surrounding grass. Then they will probably paint it green smh
18booma
They aren't even using enough peroxide to kill the algae bloom. In fact, watered down hydrogen peroxide is sometimes used in plant care to fight off pests and fungus.
NothingPrince
What's it like on blue paint
BishlamekGurpgork
Generally okay for paint, but I think the basins are just colored tile. Could be mistaken.
NothingPrince
i hope so
wkearney99
Everything he touches dies.
BenjyX55
Except the algae apparently.
Goatfer
Algae regrowing has been a problem every time the pool has been fixed. This shouldn't have been a surprise. This was caused by cutting corners and the needed timeline to do the job right. This was just another grift. Went from $3 million to $14 million and still did a shit job so the birthday boy could have his pool.
Evi1Gav
Hydrogen peroxide breaks down in sunlight. Along with the dilution issue, those chemicals won't last long enough to do anything.
AdmiralJohn
Which is why it's sold in brown bottles.
Targe0
Just use algaecide.
It's literally made for this purpose.
It's a herbicide designed to kill algae.
varonicaED
Seen estimates that to kill algae in a pool the size of the reflecting pool they would need 8,000 liters,this guys going to be there a looooong time!
CallMeCourierSix
At a 3% solution, it would actually be 52,000 liters. At a 12% solution, they'd need 13,000. Utterly insane.
VibratingNipples
Why not just order a tanker with that stuff? Doing it one bottle at a time seem counterproductive
BishlamekGurpgork
Photo op.
Ghlargh
"Counterproductive" is one of the most apt terms to use when describing anything the Trump administration does.
RexMundane
It'll be those Clorox Toilet Tank Tablets next.
"No, see, they're Blue, so it'll help it get to the right color faster!"
TungstenOrbital
This is just sad
DanzKMK0
Reflecting pool, reflecting the cesspool the orange cunt is
Flareside
Shock to politicians that pool in a swamp is full of algae
HitandRyan
Elect a swamp thing, and he’ll create a swamp
YuffieK
It's a bit bigger than a fish tank...
YuffieK
Napkin math tells me it'd take about 200 gallons of food/technical (35%) grade peroxide.
Clockworkdancerobot
A supplier I saw can sell up to 50% peroxide solution in 55 gallon drums, IBCs, and tanker trucks. https://www.hawkinsinc.com/groups/industrial/hydrogen-peroxide/
Targe0
Controlled lab suppliers can go much higher.
But you need licenses and government approval for that kind of stuff.
Not exactly something just anyone can go online and order.
charondaboatman
675 for the shock. Then …. /gallery/this-morning-reflecting-pool-HXJMj6t
lackinglife
From what I saw, if they had done any sort of research beforehand, this is basically a known issue where the pipes leading to the pool fill with algae during any maintenance. Leads to blooms on starting it up. So I assume they did no pre-work to stop it, or even knew about it.
somethingstupidandclever
I thought it was from painting it?
Isthe4thtimethecharm
It is almost like we should have taken bids for the job before just giving it to someone.
gft8gd5khn101
They're fired all the competent people long time ago
ninjafartball
DOGE fired the park service people that maintain it.... Probably
TrilithonStone
I heard the pool fils from the tidal marsh.
Dimestream
And the dark blue causes it to retain more heat which is good for algal growth so....
Pseudobatrachotoxin
Other way around - too warm and the algae can’t survive - should have painted it black. Then the reflection would have been even more pronounced. Light blue would absorb less and allow more favorable conditions for algae.
Dimestream
I don't know enough about algae to argue with you. The analysis I'd seen before seemed pretty convincing, but again, not my area of expertise.
BishlamekGurpgork
I mean, there is no real solution. The inflow is connected to the tidal basin, which is connected to the potomac. Even if you treat the inflow pipes, I doubt you can guarantee not one cell of algae can make the transit. And there's overflow active every time it rains, to take out anything you put into it.
lackinglife
I agree. I think the idea is there's ways to get ahead of it so you don't have a sudden full on bloom. Considering all the attention to the pool they could've easily solved the bad press by just pointing out that it was going to happen before hand as a natural part of refilling it. Instead they appeared to be completely unaware that it was a possibility.
BishlamekGurpgork
The reflecting pools are kind of a perfect storm for algae, and once it gets in it can double its mass daily in the right circumstances - some species of algae, that's down to 8 hours, for certain species in perfect circumstances.
Tons of sun, tons of duckshit as nutrition, and anything that eats algae is also duck food. I'm not sure there is a way to get ahead of it. You can slow down the amount that gets in, reduce initial mass, but once it's in, it's in.
Scobragon
Oh, they knew about it, they just ignored the experts.
JBloodthorn
Or they fired the ones who spoke up, per their traditions.
Poppypoppoppop
Or fired those experts already before this happened. NO SCIENCE ALLOWED IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. NONE.
IceWeaselX
Heard* about it. They never know stuff, they just hear and disregard it.
Pyrocious
It was a overpriced, no-bid contract to his buddies. They don't know shit.
aChungusAmongUs
Ah yes let’s try injecting bleach and using bright lights up its ass. Worked for Covid, right?
throwaway12345432
Now hold on, I'm open to watching people shove lights up their ass.
imgurianitarian
tekcor
I mean, bleach *would* be an effective way to control the algae. But it’d just come back. It’ll always come back.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I still maintain injecting it into Trump would have reduced the total number of deaths in the US.
cytherians
pandemicmodedad
I remember this....that light kills everything, not just the virus. This is why people need to learn science in school. Don't let them pass highschool unless they pass with at least 80%. Stop this idiocy.
FlintNorth44
My bio teacher was a huge asshole and a real creep. He would get massages from the cheerleader students. Wish I had reported him.
pandemicmodedad
Well, that would be a predator and yes, you should have. Still can out him if hes still employed at that school. Doesn't negate the fact that we have too few people who understand science and we require people to learn or we will keep getting stupid people doing stupid things.
FlintNorth44
He got in trouble for saying something to a female staff member that was sexual and there was an argument. She got fired and he got suspended. We need good teachers, but I guess my point was that even those who we look to for better knowledge can be corrupt. I'm from a "red district" in the US, so many of my teachers were shit.
jakedafish
Do they have lights brighter than the one that is causing the issue? You know… the sun?
Forensickle
They do, that's what the UV-C light in filters does.
But if they tried it, they'd just have 3 guys pointing a torch at the water
GoSibi
But the sun don't shine where they need to shove that light.
wejustdontknow
Buckets of ivermectin next
SheepySleepySmuggler
We have to wait for the share pump before the official announcement...
RetrogradeLlama
There are 6.5 MILLION gallons of water in the pool. They're attempting to purify it by manually pouring in a few gallons of Peroxide.
backrideup9
People are going to pass out and lose their eyes from the fumes if they put enough in to kill the algae.
NothingPrince
I hope it strips the paint
FPAlpha
To be honest it's par for the course for Republicans/MAGAs.
They come up with an insane and unnecessary idea, half ass it by giving the project to someone who is cheap or who could use the money because they know someone or have outright bribed them but they don't have the capacity or knowledge to do the job right.
Then it inevitably goes wrong because they half assed it, try to salvage the situation but either making it worse or no change at all.
Mumalot
and the final crucial part... blame the democrats/immigrants/women/LGBTQ/etc.
justbob806
Math is not their strong suit, nor is common sense🤷♂️
expertLevelProcrastinator
why not just put in one more O ?? then H2O becomes H2O2, case closed!
Shaddak
Yup. What they're using is labeled as 12%. If that's accurate, they'd need roughly 5,000 cannisters.
gandraw
thus solving the problem once and for all
ExaDeuce
ONCE AND FOR ALL!!
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
But they brought a whole box of jugs!
madmax17
Another 28billioon$ dorra!!!!
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I was cracking up so hard with the dude who went to like Wal-Mart to get it. Like no brother A) You need a tanker truck and B) This isn't going to stop NEW WATER flowing in and regrowing algae. I damn near choked on the air in my lungs.
hsalonen3000
They are using the cheapest solution and too little of it. I've seen this before. This is to show "we are doing something" while doing basically nothing. And what people don't understand, is those big numbers. So everything ok , for the uneducated.
KMSigma
I have an 8,000 gallon pool and to kill the algae each season, I use 1/2 gallon of 30% H2O2 solution. No one in this administration can do simple math.
RetrogradeLlama
That says they'll need 800 to 1000 gallons, and I'm sure their algae problem is already much worse than your pool. Not to mention, they are adding polluted make-up water from the Potomac, not the chlorinated water you are using. You are also actively filtering and treating with chlorine and they are not.
KMSigma
Idiocracy in real life.
FaeVikingPrincess
It's a grift.
Tjitso
In the end they will just blame Biden, or Obama
BananaForScaIe
They already did at the start of the project ("Haha Obama repaired the pool way for way more money and it was still broken, of course Trump has to fix it, nobody builds pools better than Trump" type shit.
CallMeCourierSix
General guidelines are 8ml per liter of 3% hydrogen peroxide. That's 13,736 gallons for the reflecting pool.
For a 12% solution, you're looking at 3,434 gallons.
This will need to be done weekly.
RetrogradeLlama
Home Depot sells 12% at $22. They have low markup... so it probably doesn't cost them a whole lot less. But, assuming you could get it for $10/gal in volume, the 3500 gals/week would be $35,000 per week, or $2M per year for peroxide.
But that's OK: they can just starve some more kids on SNAP to pay for it. ?S
BishlamekGurpgork
It gets worse. There are inflow and outflow channels. One connects to the tidal basin, to replenish losses from evaporation. One is an overflow, to prevent flooding from rainfall. So water (and peroxide) is flowing out every time it rains. And the Tidal basin is connected to the Potomac, which will replenish the algae.
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There is no solution here unless they want to engineer a micro-ecosystem.
crossingdynasty
Crazy that the people who came before had specific reasons for doing the things they did
BishlamekGurpgork
(Which, of course, would no longer look anything like a reflecting pool.)
jesuisgur
What was it like before ? Why is there alga now ? Did Trump toss his diapers in it or something ?
BishlamekGurpgork
Nah, it's always been an issue. But they drained it, cleaned it out, and repainted the bottom and sides a brighter blue. Now, when algae blooms you have a clean bright blue backdrop to see it against.
Clockworkdancerobot
And not even using the concentrated powdered form.
CptJohnYossarian
Pure/anhydrous hydrogen peroxide is a liquid at room temperature. What are you talking about?
EricPisch
Chlorine no doubt
Evenmoreuselessname
Probably powdered bleach. Peroxide is often marketed as "chlorine free bleach" in the US, so it's probably based on a misunderstanding that peroxide and sodium hypochlorite are somehow related chemicals?
YpsilantiRomani
Also it's still connected to Potomac there's no filter between the Potomac and the reflecting pool
Funkypeeg
H2O2 would not get "filtered out" by any plant anyway. It reacts with organic and inorganic compounds to produce H2O and O2 in that process. Meanwhile, the organic part gets usually destroyed. H2O2 based chemicals are safe to be dumped in the drain and are relatively environment friendly compared to other compounds like bleach.
CallMeCourierSix
There's a filtration plant nearby, with underground pipes connecting to the pool.
BUT, the pipes are leaking like crazy, and the Dept of Interior said "Well, we're TRYING to get that fixed around fall of 2026."
CaptnRobAnybody
There is a water treatment plant between the pool and the river so it does get filtered
YpsilantiRomani
Ok, I had been told different