'Truth Social' Juror said "Guilty" too.

Jun 1, 2024 1:19 AM

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https://x.com/Xx_WiReD_xX/status/1796707267783356774

Source of graphic: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/nyregion/trump-trial-jury-news.html

I'm surprised the defense only got 1 person who got news from fox news (and nobody exclusively from there).

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I get my news from Imgur and the orb.

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Is there anybody else who wouldn't have checked any of those boxes? Or just me?

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Are you #4?

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Everyone's talking about the guy getting his news from Truth Social, but what about that guy who gets his news from The Crazy Fail?

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Probably because Juror #1 also gets their news from Fox New, MSNBC, and NYT. So they have multiple news sources, some with opposing biases, so they're less likely to be stuck in an echo-chamber hearing only pro-Trump spins on stories.

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And juror number four. Where does that individual get his news from? That's even weirder.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why not say "Truth Social and X"? I dont think that would have harmed the statement one bit. On the other hand, pretending X doesnt exist has harmed the credibility of the entire post.

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X isn't owned by Donald Trump though. I don't see how that's relevant

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Because it's simply factually wrong to say it is "their ONLY source of news". Omission. for any reason, implies that you hid facts to help your claim. Just bad for business.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

J2 followed a cult. Deprived of their brainwashing was able to function as a normal perdon

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sadly, it doesn't work that way. Deprogramming an indoctrinated cultist is WORK. Being cut off from the source would only prevent new orders from coming down; the person would still be thinking as they had been trained to.

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I feel like that in itself should have been worthy of disqualification. It is a shock they were able to stay impartial whilst receiving almost entirely misinformation.

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Philip Defranco and NPR aren’t listed??

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Disappointed "Memes" isn't an option. I would have no boxes to check if they asked that of me.

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Right! Where do I check boxes for "Imgur" and "Jon Stewart"?

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Juror #4 isn't totally clear on who the defendant even is

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"Donald Trump? Never heard of 'im. Who's he? President, huh? Well, yeah, I guess FDR had ta step down at some point, didn't he?"

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Juror 7 seems like a business person.

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I think perhaps you may be reading the data in the wrong direction?

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Probably

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Don't all those news sources require a subscription membership?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not only Truth Social guy, but also the Daily Mail and Fox News juror. Something tells me I'd get along just wonderfully with juror 1.

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But juror 1 also watches MSNBC and reads NYT. So they could be a liberal who looks at conservative news sources to see "what the other side is saying."

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Does Juror #4 live in a cave?

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I'm surprised no one uses the AP.

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The Cult wouldn't care if the twelve had all been Rep-Con Senators wearing Maggat hats, the Golden Diaper could only be found guilty by a rigged court...

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Same juror uses both Truth Social and X as their main sources of information. All other jurors, except one, seem to have three or more sources, so I can't see how Trump claims a prejudicial jury. (That 1 juror is either the liar Trump wanted to 'prove' prejudice or completely cut off from the world.) After all this noise, I wonder if Trump wanted a guilty verdict. Makes for far more opportunities to wind up his base than a not guilty verdict, that's for sure.

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Not to mention they approved all of the jurors...

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are you guys talking about convicted felon Donald Trump?

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The statement is factually incorrect. Juror #2 also cited X as a source of news. Not that that's any better, but...

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How does having a juror whose sole source of information coming from X, negate the fact that there was a juror who only received information from Truth Social?

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It's the same juror. Juror #2 (listed at the top) picked Truth Social and X as where they get their news.

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Aren't they interchangeable nowadays ?

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X and Truth Social are a lot closer together than they used to be.

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Closer to eachother and further away from reality

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"It's the same picture"

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There is a Daily Mail mixed in there too.

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Substitute the Daily Fail or the Daily Heil at your leisure.

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Since Musk bought it.

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I am juror #4

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

"No news is good news", and maybe even the best news

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I note that the list is incomplete as Imgur does not appear

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Getting your news from X is like getting your dating advice from PornHub

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I don't know the comments section of PornHub is alot less toxic then alot of social media

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The OP is an idiot. The information is all right there but will embellish to sell their tweet.

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Look at the title,

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It looks like the original poster of the Tweet is the one who fucked up. The person who reposted it onto Imgur didn't necessarily make the same claim. Then again, to remove the claim they could have just cropped it. Honestly, I figure that they just misread the graph. It took me a second to catch the way to properly read it as well. Not being able to easily zoom in didn't really help my blind ass.

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And I don't think they did it with malice or to exaggerate. Many people are bad at reading data visuals. The person looked horizontally when they should have looked vertically.

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That's exactly what I did at first, since that's what made sense to me. Dunno why people are so quick to assume malice when the far easier answer that won't get your blood pressure up is that someone made an easy-to-understand mistake. Sometimes the benefit of the doubt isn't warranted, but in this case? Someone who only gets news from TS and X isn't really any less damning than -only- TS. They're both right-wing echo chambers (the former by design, the latter by algorithm and/or choice).

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Oh! Now when Demented Donny talked about "his juror" it makes sense. Bet that one juror is now getting his news from somewhere else.

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I'm very surprised if any of this is true. The only thing Trump ever said that was a fact was his comment about being able to shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose his voters.

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A lot of the time, when you're with these people, you can "convince" them of your views at least temporarily. You have to really stick to your guns, and you unfortunately can't hold their hand forever, they will eventually revert.

That's the thing about these people. They're npcs, parroting the person with the highest confidence in the room. They don't actually apply critical thought towards objectivity of facts beyond confidence. That's why they love Trump. That sad boy photo of Trump should

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Be getting plastered.

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they CANT apply critical thought, they never learned how

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Measuring and comparing confidence levels does take a degree of critical thinking, so they have the gears, they just don't know how to connect them properly

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think there is another, much more positive spin on this (although it sadly still demonstrates they lack critical thinking skills). The sort of propaganda necessary to twist people's worldviews to the point that they think Trump is a great man requires constant effort and reinforcement. There was some study in the last few years where even only a few months after giving up Fox News people

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had much more accurate and healthy responses to survey questions. I feel like this is a more positive spin because it shows that if media accuracy laws were passed or enforced (obviously they hide behind the first amendment, but the election machine lawsuit shows that there are still places where consequences can be divied out. That people can be helped, it takes a multi-billion dollar media empire to keep them broken.

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Whether or not he did it is entirely inconsequential to Trump supporters because they've convinced themselves that he would not even have been tried had he not been running for president again

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Again, claiming things are rigged against him whenever he doesn't get what he wants is Trump's usual MO. FFS, when his stupid reality show didn't win an Emmy, he started screaming on Twitter about how the Emmys were rigged against him and there was a huge conspiracy to make him lose.

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This is what he ALWAYS does. He wanted to be acquitted, but that didn't happen, so of course he's going to insist he was unfairly persecuted by a secret conspiracy of his enemies. His ego is far too fragile to handle not getting what he wants on command.

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So he invents secret conspiracies of people who hate him to ease the pain of failure.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hmmm, where have we heard before?
I mean it sounds vaguely familiar.
I could be wrong.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Only one source listed is legitimate, Reuters is one of the best sources that nobody uses...

And by nobody I mean the mainstream, which sucks as the mainstream needs to be properly informed in order to maintain a safe, functioning and progressive society, otherwise a mainstream that is hopelessly addicted to rubbish sources/conspiracies, is a mainstream that will support a corrupt society. As a society is only as good as their mainstream population.

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WNYC (NPR) isn't legitimate to you?

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Holy shit, I did not even see them listed… Shitty eyesight… But yes, NPR, PBS, yeah those are actual sources worth their salt!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

To be fair, they're not listed as NPR/PBS, but rather the regional member station, WNYC. Not so much shitty eyesight as not being listed as how we expect--one regional news source compared to almost all the others that are national if not international. I missed it too on first read.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cool, thanks for the info!

I still have shitty eyesight, though! x^D

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Juror #1 probably lied about watching MSNBC and the others were too embarrassed to admit it.

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No NPR?

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No Imgur?

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I assume they only list news sources if at least one of the jurors or alternates actually listed it. For example, Al Jazeera isn't listed.

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I like me some Al Jazeera

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I would bet that if they mentioned they GOT their news from NPR, the defense removed them.

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That's actually probably accurate

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No imugr?

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It's on there

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It's right between Facebook and Google. They misspelled it as Fox instead of Faux though, so I can see how you missed it.

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wnyc

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My mother's secretary: So, were you watching Channel 9 News last night?

My mother: Umm...no.

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One guy who gets their news from 5 sources to balance the Truth Social guy

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Odd that only one juror selected it as a source, and then by far not their only source. I suspect the defense likely eliminated any jurors who favor NPR given how leftist their audience skews.

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Lol, NPR is liberal at best.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It has nothing to do with political views; it's wholly based on level of income and education. Their audience is split pretty evenly, but the things they do have in common are high levels of education and income. It's the political parties that would like you to believe those things mean you have to prescribe to certain politics...
https://blog.marketenginuity.com/perception-vs.-reality-public-radio-listeners-value-education-over-politics

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Odd isn't it, when NPR is free and often talks about issues and resources directly effecting the poor.

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Where do juror #4 and alternate #2 get their news from? OAN? Buzzfeed? Neighbor's gossiping mouth? I need answers....

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4chan

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Some of us truly do not give a shit. #istandwithjuror4

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Decanted from jars the court keeps in the basement.

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"Imgur" isn't listed.

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lol I noticed that myself. kinda missing out on a few things here.

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lmao, Imgur is literally about the only reason I end up looking up news. I come here for memes and then it's like, BAM, HERE' S SOME FUCKIN NEWS YOU'RE TRYING TO AVOID FOR YOUR SANITY! I blocked political and a few imgurians who are big on talking about news. I get it, it's important. Please, for fucks sake, tag it so I can not see it. I can't handle my own issues, let alone watch the world go to shit in real time. Let me find out when I'm lynched for being trans and gay.

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Two of us!... two of us!... two of us!

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Lots of us prefer our news accompanied by snarky memes.

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"The Daily Show" or "Last Week Tonight"

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What, no "A Closer Look" from Late Night with Seth Meyers, or Some More News on Youtube?

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They don't read/watch the news. Strategists from both major parties cite these people as one of their biggest challenges. Except in the case of Trump, it actually helps. In focus groups, many people legitimately have no idea about Trump, his scandals, his trials... These people overwhelmingly say they are voting for Trump because "the economy was better then." I jokingly refer to these people as "gas price voters." They vote for whatever party is in office when gas prices are low.

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Cryptic symbolism in their dreams

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"Sup you beautiful bastards"

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Lol

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Possibly from literally nowhere. There's gotta be people who just don't give a fuck.

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I solely got my news from Imgur and word of mouth for a while. Then I felt I was missing out on some major events so now I have 2 news outlet pinging me notifications whenever a goddamn French or British football team wins or loses a stupid game. Yay.

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I'm in that category. I don't check any news, I just dont care anymore. It's all doom and gloom

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That's most people unfortunately, I both hate and understand it tbh. Shit's so fucked that constantly checking any kind of news is incredibly damaging for many people's mental health.

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I wouldn't say it's most people, most people watch TV, including some news programs from time to time at least. But to voluntarily go and read the news is getting rarer yeah

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I get my news filtered by my husband. I will not go looking for it.

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They absorb it from the rocks.

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Like the one they choose to live under.

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That, at the least, would mean they had nothing to bias them, at least!

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They needn't go down to the newstand. Think of the convenience.

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It's a stupid list. AP isn't on there.

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There are sooooo many news sources I could claim I personally read… Reuters was the only one on this list and no one even had it. Reuters and AP are my top 2!

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That was my thought. I use AP on my phone

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Psh, what kind of idiot gets their news source from the news source?

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National Public Radio isn’t on there either.

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My second daily news read is UPI (United Press Int'l) It isn't listed either. (I won't name my first - it's embarrassing)

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Go on...

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Seems they're too shy so I'll name mine. It's MSN - not a news source per se, but an aggregator. You see a bit of everything (still limited to what's politically correct in the West).

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MSN? What year is it?

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They could have also lied just to increase their chances of getting on the jury. Pretty historical one.

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Lying to get *onto* a jury isn't something the vast majority of humans will do. Just the opposite.

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I get what you’re saying. But the allure of being a part of history is strong here.

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I have a feeling "trying to make history" was being selected against in the jury selection process.

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And they risk being caught perjuring in addition to having to do jury duty. Not saying it's impossible, especially in a city as large as NYC, but certainly unlikely.

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Just a theory. Given the honesty and integrity /s we witness daily. ✌🏼

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