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https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/956486352/judge-refuses-to-reinstate-parler-after-amazon-shut-it-down
Jan 21, 2021 8:30 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/956486352/judge-refuses-to-reinstate-parler-after-amazon-shut-it-down
ballsoutflyer
Eat a bouquet of dick, Parler.
SumptuousMeat
theredeemablefemalecousin78
Heliogabalus227
Subloc
Republicans hate democracy
VitaminJay
"Haaaa-haaaa!" -Det. 'Pep' Strebeck, 'Dragnet'.
Spongebobsbae
ddubs41
Cons: Let the free market decide! Free Market: Decides Cons: No NOT LIKE THAT
nebuchadnezzarispooping
You dont want to go against jeff bezos. He will replace the entire GOP with his people
DarkSock
CrimsonReaper1985
Good. Fucks don't need a platform to spread their trash on.
omgbs
But this is showing you how monoplized it really is
SomeDetroitGuy
Thought they got some servers in Russia to run on.
zzz777
AWS is a private company; there's no legal way to force them to host content. This is expected.
XXXSpork
The Russians have a gold mine of information on the people the can do easily manipulate with misinformation
twisteddkarma
Well damn, those poor nazi bastards just can't seem to catch a break. They should investigate the russian stooge that owns it
SpiteLip
of all the reasons to hate amazon, this is NOT one.
ihatedhipstersbeforeitwascool
downvotevacuum
For people cheering this, remember this is possible due to Ajit Pai's revocation of net neutrality.
SenseiTheDefender
That’s not what net neutrality is about.
downvotevacuum
I recommend you do additional reading.
clubracer
Duh, Amazon has every right to say who and who won’t be their customers.
LVH8
Billionaire’s Coup in progress. Keep watching your bank accounts drain and their portfolios double.
mustardcutter
All Amazon needed to do is to show a couple of posts from some of those psychos and the the judge went like "nope"
FrolickingFrolicking
well you can also point to the constitution and basic facts about freedom and democracy. Nobody is required to enter a contract with people
ThMick
Contracts are not insoluble. A pretty clear violation of terms of service absolved Amazon of their obligation. That's a fact.
CPatricoo
Obviously. All they did in their suit was bitch about twitter.
mardukkur
LOL their attorneys are straight robbing them.
DonL9
They're graduates of the Giuliani Law School, specializing in Kraken law.
mardukkur
"Sure guys, we'll file to force Amazon to host your code. That totally sounds like something the law would allow."
Tokomek
That was a no duh moment. Amazon isn't required to accept them as a customer.
KootchieKoo
Haven't they already found another platform?
texasinja1718
Yeah I think they went to the same Russian server that Jim Watkins went to when 8chan got banned
Tokomek
A service that is just about to lose most of its IP blocks due to fraudulent use.
TummyTroubles
Respectfully, that wasn't what the suit was about
Tokomek
Yes it was, they tried to claim Amazon was required to provide their services because of their right to Free Speech.
Tokomek
They furth tried to assert that as other social networks who aren't Amazon's customers do things Amazon should be required to allow them on.
TummyTroubles
No it wasn't. The suit was based on contract infringement
Tokomek
Which said they required 30 day notice. They were given notice to correct in November and were dropped in January.
Tokomek
Everything about their lawsuit was stupid and fake and it got tossed immediately.
SenseiTheDefender
Amazon also gave them chances to moderate the violent content but Parler never did.
igec
They did tho. And by the standards Twitter should be booted too. They should have honorer the contact with the 30 day notice...
SenseiTheDefender
Parler self reported a backlog of 26,000 posts that needed to be cleaned up, so they were not serious.
igec
An AI was on the way, and talks about using amazons AI to help too. They claim they did nothing. And the backlog is similar to Twitter etc.
Marsupialmessiah
Arent they using russian servers now?
Katateochi
I love that in order for those "protecting" America's greatness, they have to accept getting Russian help. It's almost poetic.
SenseiTheDefender
Da.
Nomad33
Yes but modern web stuff. Their application was built for AWS migrating it elsewhere is non-trivial, so it has bugs/issues.
Tokomek
One of many reasons to avoid the cloud lock-in that is platform as a service.
Katateochi
well, no, not if you build with properly abstracted layers which can be drop-and-replaced.
Thelrishlnquistion
TCGreen
Upgrade:
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Feksaaargh
Upgrade:
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Applewhite5
Bet that cake couple wish they'd just baked the fucking cake for the gay couple now.
noodlemcb
Bet that baked couple wish they’d just fucked the cake; they’re gay for the cake now.
LizardEnterprises
Nah. Conservatives aren't capable of self-awareness. No rules for the Lion and many rules for the Lamb is freedom, after all.
cloudmarusan
Well said!
TummyTroubles
If the cake couple had a existing contract with the Baker that was broken, they'd have a case. In my books at least.
WalkItOutLikeTheFlash
Comment of the decade
rick2g
I think we’ve nicely established that it’s only ok to refuse service to politically unpopular people.
Covidnineteen
I feel like this was a jab, not a serious comment
Applewhite5
"politically unpopular" is doing a lot of work there. Nazis are "politically unpopular" but Black people and homosexuals have been
Applewhite5
at various times also. The people who refuse service to Nazis do so for very different reasons and occupy a very different moral category
Applewhite5
than those who refuse service to the latter.
Ehilgy
Baking cake =/= planning to murder Americans
SLCtechie
You can refuse service to anyone as long as it’s non-discriminatory. Political affiliation is not protected.
DuckPlanetKing
And those people know that they’re so unpopular but still think they won the election in a landslide? Explain that.
aesthesia1
"Politically unpopular" that's a really pc way of describing people who conspired to overthrow the US government? What all the parler/1
aesthesia1
Dumbfucks dont get is that the speech that got their shit taken down is explicitly NOT protected by the first amendment. /2
aesthesia1
American free speech, by law, is not absolute. So not only do corporations have a right to refuse service to terrorists, but those /3
aesthesia1
Terrorists have no legal protection for their terrorist speech in the first place, regardless of platform. And honestly, if not for /4
Blackranger3d
This is ? about TOS. If I own a restaurant and you come in without a shirt I can refuse to serve you regardless of race.
GalacticLord
You are traitors , you deserve nothing.
DamnedAustin
Conservatives love the free market until it negatively impacts them.
OneHundredPercentIce
They never thought the leopards would eat THEIR faces
TheBlueMuppet
They shoudn't have fucked it all up then. FoundOut.exe is running.
Shiznit007
Conservatives love everything until it affects them
Johnnyflame04
They are censoring us though! /s
restocloud
K. Who likes things negatively impacting them?
sfrinlan
The other side to it is realizing that, even if you're fine, the free market can do wrong and should be regulated.
omgbs
Not when it's monoplized
sandwhale123
DamnedAustin
If I violate the rules the way Parler did, I would expect to get the boot.
EndersPregame
Saw the same with how they view the police with the capitol building attack. Went from back the blue to fuck the police pretty quick
Dinos91
That change happened a few days earlier in Salem, OR, then continued into the Capitol attack
AimForTheBushes
Saw that with people stoked that Oregon’s capital was occupied for 6 months by protestors but want law and order in dc
ThMick
1) Portland isn't Oregon's capital, 2) less than 1% of the area of the city was in the "occupied" zone, and 3) life inside the zone was
ThMick
Pretty much unchanged.
AimForTheBushes
...what % of dc was occupied when the capital was raided lol. Not sure how that’s relevant
ThMick
It's relevant because he's portraying a sit in as though it were an occupation by force, which it wasn't. The attack on the Capital was.
myg00
Honestly, that’s how it goes for most people. They want to back law and order. They never think it’s that bad until it affects them
myg00
Personally. Once it does they will flip that switch.
avidatheist
Because the core of conservatism is "I don't know what you're complaining about, I'm doing fine". Nothing matters until they get(1)
avidatheist
get personally affected by it.(2/2)
myg00
Lol. Sorry. I just made that exact point on someone else’s comment before I saw yours.
Doso777
American conservatives sounds very different from conservatives in Europe.
Skywatcher16
yeah. american "conservatives" havent been conservative in decades, and since roughly 2000 have become more and more just the party of
Skywatcher16
malignant narcissism/lack of empathy
euphoricopportunity
They've been getting worse for a while
Skywatcher16
roughly since 2000.
FredeFuppe
But I can see the problem with Amazon having such a dominant position.
DamnedAustin
Yeah, I'm no Amazon fan at all, but they're in the right here.
OopsPoops
There are other web hosting providers. They could also spool up their own infrastructure.
FredeFuppe
Yes but Amazon is the undisputed number 1... And sure, they could also just build their own power grid, amiright?
OopsPoops
Amazon is number 1; so what? Build their own power grid; they should have UPSs. They can buy those. Stuff doesnt need to be in the cloud.
hekati
There’s Google Cloud Platform & Microsoft Azure & Oracle and the dozens of other hosting platforms. Plenty of competition.
sfrinlan
AWS is great, but most apps don't need all that, and other providers actually offer just as good service for cheaper
Redtrip
Liberals love making Democracy into Communism. /sips coffee
ElusiveThing
Is there a politician of any influence in the USA advocating for communism? /sips tea.
miyukgookforpregos
Extreme capitalism is just as detrimental as communism. / sips vodka
ElusiveThing
And I'd argue a fair bit more prevalent in the world now.
softballguy
I really enjoy these lectures on democracy from the party that tried to block the results of a democratic election for over three months.
ColClone54
Cite one legitimate source.
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restocloud
Stunning, brave
restocloud
Imgur really turned into a shit hole
sfrinlan
Pssst, imgur is just people posting. People were the real shit hole all along.
Jusmar
Same goes for Facebook and Twitter. It's us that are the problem
HaydukeLivesGoddamnit
Ironically, the right is trying to destroy private property rights by insisting they can say/do anything on a privately owned platform.
Skywatcher16
communism is economic philosophy, not government.
baldm0mma
Ha ha! Your brain is bad.
Dagordae
...But the government asserting control over a private company is what the right wants, not the left. Did you not consider that the Free
Dagordae
Market would turn against you? I mean, that’s the entire reason there were all those rules and laws implemented to prevent that sort of
Dagordae
Thing. Rules and laws that the right both opposed and removed. You guys got what you wanted, you just only wanted it to apply to others
TheSecondPiewackit
that'sbait.gif
Redtrip
Explain how censoring people is a good thing? -looksback to 1930's- /sips coffee again
scissorxmextimbers
Is amazon a private company or not?
dresdenflame
So do private corporations have the right to refuse service or don't they? You guys flip/flop on this issue so much i never know
CityYeti
Not tolerating intolerance is a good thing, ya douche
LocalZoophile
I'll let you know once Amazon Web Services becomes a government entity.
ReturnOfHeebies
Put the coffee down kiddo, it's messing with your head, obviously. You put crack in there?
Skywatcher16
he thought it was sugar.
Skywatcher16
he thought it was sugar.
Skywatcher16
he thought it was sugar.
Skywatcher16
he thought it was the sugar.
Skywatcher16
he thought it was the sugar.
dresdenflame
Man I feel dumb now. This is a bot guys, stop responding to it. Check his comment history, it's all the same cringe buzzwords
disposabledom
People like this would use the Declaration of Independence to light their fireworks on the 4th and call you a traitor for trying to stop it.
SerialChickenLover
You realize what happened in Germany during the 1930s is what your side was trying to do, right? /sips bear piss
ColClone54
The 1st Ammendment does not protect speech that preaches insurrection. Nor yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater. Try spreading fear and hate
ColClone54
somewhere else. We aren't buying your BS.
ColClone54
And neither is Amazon and a numbrr of other free market companies. Loser.
Dagordae
... You don’t actually know what communism is, do you? This here is call ‘Capitalism’, where the business is owned by a private individual.
Dagordae
This, specifically, is part of ‘Free Market Capitalism’ where the government is given minimal control over things like who they choose to
Dagordae
Serve. Communism(Presumably Stalinist communism(AKA, Russian) as Marxist communist is the unicorn of socioeconomic systems) is when the