Honestly just write them off. Any and all of them. If they STILL support the Child Rapist Sex Trafficker Trump then they are not worth knowing. Not worth speaking to beyond whatever societal courtesies you can manage. Let them die alone and unwanted for the beliefs they hold so dear.
Hey, just because a guy is friends with Epstein, walks in on beauty pageant girls dressing, grabs pussies, and is convicted of sexual assault, doesn't mean he's the head of the pedophile ring. He might be number two or number three. Checkmate, liberals!
Look, we gotta live with these folks, and they vote. We need to get them on "our side", or at least on the side of sanity. We will not always agree with them, and that's okay. Telling them "I told you so" is not gonna help them join the rest of the sane world; it's gonna just isolate them, and reinforce the "fact" that they were always right and we're a bunch of Satanic pedophiles.
I'm not saying you have to agree with them, but open hostility is only gonna make them double down.
> "That's my line in the sand." But they're okay with his fraud, fascism, racism, misogyny, & wrecked economy? > "No one with an ounce of human decency can continue to support this man." There was never any decency in anyone who ever supported a spoiled, rude, draft-dodging, POW-shaming, treasonous, racist, misogynistic, adulterous, crotch-grabbing, fraudulent, charity-scamming, tax-evading, repeatedly-bankrupt, election-rigging, twice-impeached, insurrection-inciting, narcissistic tyrant.
1st. WAY past time. 2nd. "Mastermind" is a far too complimentary term. Co-conspiratorial rapist. Dude's mind is currently mush and never was much more than that.
Yeah, he’s not a mastermind, he’s just a loud dumb asshole who just went “fuck you I’m gonna commit crimes and deny everything” over and over, and prosecutors went “shit, can we do anything about that? That seems hard. Plus he keeps spending money on lawsuits, I don’t want any of that.”
I would like to know at what point did you decide to record a message of this importants about political views, like what gave you the desire to record this in the parking lot of Chipotles?
It takes a lot for some people to admit they were wrong. This woman is trying to send a message to makes things right, who cares where it was recorded? I am just happy she woke up and impressed she she said she was wrong.
No no don't get me wrong I applaud her courage, this was just an observation across the platform of why so many record in their car on general, I know some of it is funny but alot are serious topics.
He and all of these other mentally ill pedophiles were only able to hurt, humiliate and kill so many children for their entertainment because thousands of people turned a blind eye for money. there was not a single scandal. Not even when Epstein ended up in prison. and you allow pam bondi to protect these beasts.In Europe Pam Bondi is now declared an accomplice, but in reality all Americans are
Hard pill for her to swallow, but the guys that support trump are pushing for women to be second class citizens and fantasize about buying them at slave auctions.
Right, I get that 'raping of children' is your 'how far is too far' moment - but that line should have been drawn much, _much_ earlier - and no one is going to forget that. No one _should_ forget that.
Recording from the passenger seat. Guessing her maga husband was on a rant while driving, then when they stop at a place he needs to go in she stays in the car to explain how she's no longer on board with it all.
I'll be one to say "I told you so" because they need to learn to stop listening to the people they have been, and starting listening to those who have been telling them the truth all along or else it'll just happen again.
Should have prepared people for the "I told you so's" instead of making it sound like there wouldn't be any. That is part of the process of being wrong and making a correction. Humbling yourself and making things right again.
I don’t give a shit how “remorseful” these POS are, the damage has been done. No going back from this and the ramifications will be felt for decades. Congratulations, you royally fucked the most powerful country.
Maybe it's because I'm old and cranky but the moment I see a random person sitting in their car and talking into their phone I immediately stop giving a shit.
You don’t have to be old and cranky to not give a shit. Maybe you’re just tired of idiots that fire up their last brain cell to understand the obvious and then act like they’ve discovered something that no one else knows.
What's odd about her is she's filming from the passenger seat. This suggests she's sitting in the car while someone went into a store. She may be recording this while her maga husband headed into a store after he was going on a rant about stuff. And all she can do is keep her mouth shut while he does until he's gone and she pops open a vid to tell how her views have changed
I hate having to swallow the "I told you so". Because every fucking conservative I know, whether it's a sibling-in-law or a coworker who can't shut up about their misogyny, they have NEVER missed a chance to rub in how much they think Trump is winning, and I sat and listened to the "Biden sniffs children" jokes for 4 fucking years, but they are so god damn fragile that if you throw this attitude back at them, they'll double down on Trump just to spite you.
Idk I'm a big fan of the "I'm very disappointed in you/your choices". Makes you sound like the bigger person and you get to gloat in a way that promotes emotional intelligence.
Especially, 1000% more, if there's witnesses. The only way to talk to them rationally if there's no audience to perform for. And even then they'll revert as soon as there is another person in the room.
The answer is to cut these shitheaps out of your life. You don't need that bullshit. And it doesn't matter if they're family, that just means you cut them out even HARDER because you don't owe those fuckers a single god damn thing. Coworker? Tell them to shut the fuck up. Sibling-in-law? Shut the FUCK up. You owe them nothing, least of all your stress and anxiety and anger.
My favorite is when they get offended by words like fascist, nazi, and dictator. The degree of cognitive dissonance it requires must be brain shattering.
Or Racist. Did you hear what Trump did, on the death of Jesse Jackson? He pushed his former relationship with him out to the forefront, with a "see, I'm the least racist president you've ever had" BS. He even had the audacity to say Jackson didn't like Obama, but he helped him anyway (and would've lost without him). Totally false.
Meanwhile Jackson came out against Trump when he was elected. The origin of "Make America Great Again," bothered him greatly. Trump is a bold faced liar.
IMO anyone who voted for Trump the second time is already irredeemable. They did so fully knowing what kind of person he was and what he planned to do. Their hatred was more important to them than anything else. So no I don't think there is any room for grace. If they want to fight against Trump and his cronies now, then good. But we all F-ing told them so and they still deserve skepticism and contempt regardless of if they decide to finally join the right side of history now.
To be clear, if they want to apologize and fight like hell against all of this, then I welcome the help. But none of the half hearted "I didn't know" BS. And if they really couldn't figure out what was real vs lies even then... Their judgement is obviously bad and should still not be trusted. Still, to anyone who sees the light - welcome over and now put your money where your mouth is
I know that feeling. Several people I work with are 99.9% liberal, but they vote Republican cause they fall for the "lower taxes" line every time. I've gotten through to exactly one (1) of them when I asked "Do you make over 250k a year?" and then showed them that the "lower taxes" only actually provide a net positive over that line... which might be even higher today, I don't know. The ones that laughed and cheered for ICE, I stopped talking to.
A relative of mine: "All I care about is how I'm financially impacted. If a candidate is going to lower my taxes, they have my vote." Talk about myopic selfishness. Meanwhile, the man who claimed to lower people's taxes, only did it for the 1%. People who don't mind others suffering... are just inhumane, greedy, selfish people.
No, I’ve seen people flip here in Texas. In TEXAS. And OP(comment) is right, it is HARD to swallow that I told you so. But I’ve actually been surprised that a few apologized to me for some of the things they said and believed.
And at the same time there are still just as many that did dig in deeper. So probably more like 50%, which likely means closer to only 25% of the country.
Like she says, “maybe we can salvage this”. “Salvage” Good word choice there.
It's not unthinkable. It's simple. They're racists who rationalize it as a few children's lives destroyed is a fair price to pay to the whitening of 'Murica.
Yup. Unfortunately it’s very important to swallow it. I’ve read a lot from cult deprogrammers over the past few years to think about how to talk to some of my maga extended family, and one of the biggest things they stress is “Leave them somewhere to go”. Maybe most will never recover, but for those that do we can’t still shun them, that’ll just push them back to the cult because “they were right, the rest of the world really is against us”. So as hard as it is, leave them somewhere to go.
I no longer have the room in my heart for anyone who didn't figure it out after the first term. You're welcome to be charitable and give them somewhere to go, but they *had* somewhere to go and decided to stay put until they were facing consequences for it. Every member of the cult is guilty of legitimizing and recruiting for it, hiding it's harms and shouting down those attempting to give them an out- they're at the back of the line for help after the people they hurt.
ada93
Honestly just write them off. Any and all of them. If they STILL support the Child Rapist Sex Trafficker Trump then they are not worth knowing. Not worth speaking to beyond whatever societal courtesies you can manage. Let them die alone and unwanted for the beliefs they hold so dear.
yeahhedugit
Hey, just because a guy is friends with Epstein, walks in on beauty pageant girls dressing, grabs pussies, and is convicted of sexual assault, doesn't mean he's the head of the pedophile ring. He might be number two or number three. Checkmate, liberals!
twoamartist
I won’t say “I told you so.” I will say F off, like I’ve been saying all along. No mercy.
wraithnix
Look, we gotta live with these folks, and they vote. We need to get them on "our side", or at least on the side of sanity. We will not always agree with them, and that's okay. Telling them "I told you so" is not gonna help them join the rest of the sane world; it's gonna just isolate them, and reinforce the "fact" that they were always right and we're a bunch of Satanic pedophiles.
I'm not saying you have to agree with them, but open hostility is only gonna make them double down.
Iblamemyparentstoo
This ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️
Cebrail
I'll be honest. I want every MAGA to do as she says, admit they are wrong and start voting against Trump.
But it wont matter anymore, it will never be forgotten. You can take off the Nazi armband and the SS hat, but you will ALWAYS have been a Nazi.
RoyDMercer
So, the 30,000+ lies he told during his first term weren't enough to convince her? That wasn't a line in the sand? #PresidentPathological
Sunflier
PJamz
Over 1 million times in the UNREDACTED files... the 2% of the ENTIRITY OF RELEASED files... 1 MILLION IN 2%. Let that sink in Sharon.
OperatorWay
> "That's my line in the sand."
But they're okay with his fraud, fascism, racism, misogyny, & wrecked economy?
> "No one with an ounce of human decency can continue to support this man."
There was never any decency in anyone who ever supported a spoiled, rude, draft-dodging, POW-shaming, treasonous, racist, misogynistic, adulterous, crotch-grabbing, fraudulent, charity-scamming, tax-evading, repeatedly-bankrupt, election-rigging, twice-impeached, insurrection-inciting, narcissistic tyrant.
Kyzyl
Here's a "secret" Republicans, MAGA, Billionaires: They DON'T CARE about women, children, nor for truth. Never have.
They care about power.
mcodger
They care about being openly racist, and little else.
ChickenSnizort
That isn't the audience here. The Audience is the cult members that believed that Trump would uphold their evangelical values.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Evangelicals don't care about women, children, or the truth either, though.
oldguyexlurker
1st. WAY past time. 2nd. "Mastermind" is a far too complimentary term. Co-conspiratorial rapist. Dude's mind is currently mush and never was much more than that.
wadatahmydamie
Yeah, he’s not a mastermind, he’s just a loud dumb asshole who just went “fuck you I’m gonna commit crimes and deny everything” over and over, and prosecutors went “shit, can we do anything about that? That seems hard. Plus he keeps spending money on lawsuits, I don’t want any of that.”
InfocalypseRising
I literally remember being like 9 years old and seeing him interviewed somewhere and going "holy shit what a moron"
BigDaddysMeatWagon
"mastermind" is a strong word for it.
lacarpitrondookmarriot
Subtext: “But, racism is still okay.”
Chefpnut
Megamastermetamememaker
It's like with religion. Make the lie big enough, and people will believe it.
TheRedBaron8
I would like to know at what point did you decide to record a message of this importants about political views, like what gave you the desire to record this in the parking lot of Chipotles?
Freeasabird2015
It takes a lot for some people to admit they were wrong. This woman is trying to send a message to makes things right, who cares where it was recorded? I am just happy she woke up and impressed she she said she was wrong.
TheRedBaron8
No no don't get me wrong I applaud her courage, this was just an observation across the platform of why so many record in their car on general, I know some of it is funny but alot are serious topics.
SMarkt
He and all of these other mentally ill pedophiles were only able to hurt, humiliate and kill so many children for their entertainment because thousands of people turned a blind eye for money. there was not a single scandal. Not even when Epstein ended up in prison. and you allow pam bondi to protect these beasts.In Europe Pam Bondi is now declared an accomplice, but in reality all Americans are
RooGryphon
its time. to put ALL of them in jail. and try to salvage this democracy
sadurdaynight
Hard pill for her to swallow, but the guys that support trump are pushing for women to be second class citizens and fantasize about buying them at slave auctions.
RamanBiot
LoL, you think Republicans have an ounce of decency?
Eiladar
Right, I get that 'raping of children' is your 'how far is too far' moment - but that line should have been drawn much, _much_ earlier - and no one is going to forget that. No one _should_ forget that.
sadurdaynight
Recording from the passenger seat. Guessing her maga husband was on a rant while driving, then when they stop at a place he needs to go in she stays in the car to explain how she's no longer on board with it all.
SmellingMistake
I'll be one to say "I told you so" because they need to learn to stop listening to the people they have been, and starting listening to those who have been telling them the truth all along or else it'll just happen again.
soThatWasThat
Should have prepared people for the "I told you so's" instead of making it sound like there wouldn't be any. That is part of the process of being wrong and making a correction. Humbling yourself and making things right again.
cesarser4
I don’t give a shit how “remorseful” these POS are, the damage has been done. No going back from this and the ramifications will be felt for decades. Congratulations, you royally fucked the most powerful country.
PlankTableGo
lordyhalvey
Bless this woman. She is truthful and is trying to unite us. Way more than the trump regime has been.
facepalmingestpanda
Maybe it's because I'm old and cranky but the moment I see a random person sitting in their car and talking into their phone I immediately stop giving a shit.
Hawkgirl203
You don’t have to be old and cranky to not give a shit. Maybe you’re just tired of idiots that fire up their last brain cell to understand the obvious and then act like they’ve discovered something that no one else knows.
taez555
CyrilConnolly
Eyeetsass
Immediately. If that’s the effort put into the message I can bet the same effort was put into the thoughts behind it.
facepalmingestpanda
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YnpwbHZzYmVrbjNteHJxOTc1N3YyMXViYW5wM2E2dDNhcW8xYWVkNCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/200w.webp
moleander
And the research. Misinformation is misinformation, regardless of political flavor.
moleander
Nope, its not because you are old and cranky.
sadurdaynight
What's odd about her is she's filming from the passenger seat. This suggests she's sitting in the car while someone went into a store. She may be recording this while her maga husband headed into a store after he was going on a rant about stuff. And all she can do is keep her mouth shut while he does until he's gone and she pops open a vid to tell how her views have changed
rumandbass
In some cases, and likely hers as she's an amateur, the selfie view flips the video.
ThatRaccoonGuy
I hate having to swallow the "I told you so". Because every fucking conservative I know, whether it's a sibling-in-law or a coworker who can't shut up about their misogyny, they have NEVER missed a chance to rub in how much they think Trump is winning, and I sat and listened to the "Biden sniffs children" jokes for 4 fucking years, but they are so god damn fragile that if you throw this attitude back at them, they'll double down on Trump just to spite you.
BatmanDeadpoolSlenderMan
Idk I'm a big fan of the "I'm very disappointed in you/your choices". Makes you sound like the bigger person and you get to gloat in a way that promotes emotional intelligence.
ButtscratchMcPherson
Especially, 1000% more, if there's witnesses. The only way to talk to them rationally if there's no audience to perform for. And even then they'll revert as soon as there is another person in the room.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
Just serve yhem the same shit-sandwich to gobble on, with rhe loudest TOLD YOU FUCKING SO A THOUSAND TIMES!
AreYouABadPerson
The answer is to cut these shitheaps out of your life. You don't need that bullshit. And it doesn't matter if they're family, that just means you cut them out even HARDER because you don't owe those fuckers a single god damn thing. Coworker? Tell them to shut the fuck up. Sibling-in-law? Shut the FUCK up. You owe them nothing, least of all your stress and anxiety and anger.
MadamPuddifoot
I don't swallow it. Fuck them and their racist asses.
Lepidopterous
My favorite is when they get offended by words like fascist, nazi, and dictator. The degree of cognitive dissonance it requires must be brain shattering.
cytherians
Or Racist. Did you hear what Trump did, on the death of Jesse Jackson? He pushed his former relationship with him out to the forefront, with a "see, I'm the least racist president you've ever had" BS. He even had the audacity to say Jackson didn't like Obama, but he helped him anyway (and would've lost without him). Totally false.
Meanwhile Jackson came out against Trump when he was elected. The origin of "Make America Great Again," bothered him greatly. Trump is a bold faced liar.
TheSecondPiewackit
Why would you do that? MAKE Them double down so no one forgets that they knowingly supported a pedophile.
dripstone
they won't care because it never impacted them directly.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Thank them for showing you who they are; and then install some boundaries like a moat with some cracked out crocs
CoalhouseWalker
IMO anyone who voted for Trump the second time is already irredeemable. They did so fully knowing what kind of person he was and what he planned to do. Their hatred was more important to them than anything else. So no I don't think there is any room for grace. If they want to fight against Trump and his cronies now, then good. But we all F-ing told them so and they still deserve skepticism and contempt regardless of if they decide to finally join the right side of history now.
CoalhouseWalker
To be clear, if they want to apologize and fight like hell against all of this, then I welcome the help. But none of the half hearted "I didn't know" BS. And if they really couldn't figure out what was real vs lies even then... Their judgement is obviously bad and should still not be trusted. Still, to anyone who sees the light - welcome over and now put your money where your mouth is
ChazzK
I know that feeling. Several people I work with are 99.9% liberal, but they vote Republican cause they fall for the "lower taxes" line every time. I've gotten through to exactly one (1) of them when I asked "Do you make over 250k a year?" and then showed them that the "lower taxes" only actually provide a net positive over that line... which might be even higher today, I don't know.
The ones that laughed and cheered for ICE, I stopped talking to.
cytherians
A relative of mine: "All I care about is how I'm financially impacted. If a candidate is going to lower my taxes, they have my vote." Talk about myopic selfishness. Meanwhile, the man who claimed to lower people's taxes, only did it for the 1%. People who don't mind others suffering... are just inhumane, greedy, selfish people.
InfocalypseRising
guess what, 99.9999% of them will never abandon him anyway so you might as well
HollerinAtTheVoid
No, I’ve seen people flip here in Texas. In TEXAS. And OP(comment) is right, it is HARD to swallow that I told you so. But I’ve actually been surprised that a few apologized to me for some of the things they said and believed.
And at the same time there are still just as many that did dig in deeper. So probably more like 50%, which likely means closer to only 25% of the country.
Like she says, “maybe we can salvage this”. “Salvage” Good word choice there.
ThatRaccoonGuy
I'm still holding on to some miniscule hope that videos like the one above might help because the alternative is unthinkable
Sooner70
It's not unthinkable. It's simple. They're racists who rationalize it as a few children's lives destroyed is a fair price to pay to the whitening of 'Murica.
TChallaVanDam
Yup. Unfortunately it’s very important to swallow it. I’ve read a lot from cult deprogrammers over the past few years to think about how to talk to some of my maga extended family, and one of the biggest things they stress is “Leave them somewhere to go”. Maybe most will never recover, but for those that do we can’t still shun them, that’ll just push them back to the cult because “they were right, the rest of the world really is against us”. So as hard as it is, leave them somewhere to go.
MentionSignificant
I no longer have the room in my heart for anyone who didn't figure it out after the first term. You're welcome to be charitable and give them somewhere to go, but they *had* somewhere to go and decided to stay put until they were facing consequences for it. Every member of the cult is guilty of legitimizing and recruiting for it, hiding it's harms and shouting down those attempting to give them an out- they're at the back of the line for help after the people they hurt.
Tulayne
You're absolutely right and I wish more people understood this. I was raised in a cult, and maga is definitely a cult.
NeoAcario
Simple message to my parents: You are horrible, horrible people.. and I genuinely cannot wait for you to die so the world can become a better place.
scarlettsletters920
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