It's nice to be boring, if it means I could function like a regular human being.

May 18, 2022 5:07 AM

Srajo101

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Always been curious about adderall. Middle aged, HS dropout, successful manager in tech, and sudafed makes me productive af

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Get diagnosed, then it's about finding the right med/dose

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Adderall both got me out of, and kept me out of, "baby jail" when I was 13.

4 years ago | Likes 287 Dislikes 1

Dang. Glad it helped

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

You and me both! Pretty sure I'm allergic to jail, aha.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sounds itchy

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

parent here. when you say "baby jail", do you mean "juvenile detention" or "havent stepped outside the house in over a week due to the...

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

demands of raising a newborn." ?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The former, unfortunately. The latter sounds like a job for a babysitter (and perhaps some stimulants too, no judgement there!)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

cant caffeinate your way out of 12hrs of sleep per week for 6 months at a time...

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

?? What’s “baby jail?”

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Juvy

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Juvenile Detention. I.e. prison for youth

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

My dad went to a similar jail, except it was for gay babies. Hasn’t returned since, he just streams Mario 64 rom hacks all day.

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 3

Brush your teeth

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

well well well if it isn't it's look who it is

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Prolly the first Simpleflips reference ive seen here. +1

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Congrats you dont need aderal. I literally cant function without it and there is a shortage.

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

I tried Adderall for a while but made me feel so "meth-y" Vyvanse on the other hand has saved my life and made me feel human again.

4 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

That means you actually need it and it’s working. It’s only fun if you don’t medically need it

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wow, do I ever hate this mentality. There is so much bias against the medicine I use to feel capable of doing my laundry.

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I'll take being boring over almost getting fired every week because I can't get work done until sheer panic takes over

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If you have PTSD, be careful with those stimulants. You might show ADHD symptoms but they are basically a side effect of trauma. Can end bad

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I would be 100% ok with being 'boring' if I could just get things done and not ruin my life.

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God yeah, I don't need a fucking personality I need an attention span longer than ten minutes I have a shit one anyways so it can go.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fukcing christ same.

4 years ago | Likes 97 Dislikes 0

Fuck yes!

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I need to move to America for all the drugs. But with my luck, probably get shot first week

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hope you mean the continent & not the US. The drugs here are expensive.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I would be okay with not having a dozen different thoughts at the same time and barely being able to comprehend them.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Adderall might be for you. Talk to a Dr

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All it did was kill my appetite.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why are you me?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'd love to be able to do simple household tasks.

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

This. Everyday is a cycle of "I should really do [task]" & then not doing it. Then getting anxious af because I didn't do [task]. Repeat.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm boring anyway, if I could get things done that'd be a pure win!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And actually finish something. Anything.

4 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 0

I got the adderall to conquer the ADHD but the depression and exhaustion still ensure that nothing gets finished.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I feel ya

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

fuckin hell this hits so hard

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I’m sorry we’re so similar my dude

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or start something. Anything.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

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Finishing the same things I start would be real neat but it feels like a stretch goal.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

With Adderall I can think in a straight line all day. Unfortunately, one hit will keep me awake for three nights, then I'm a wreck.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I wish meds helped my kid. He struggles so hard with it but amphetamines give him violent mood swing. So rage-filled. Nothing else helps.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm boring and don't get anything done either. Where can i get that adderall thing?

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Go see a doctor dude. I waited 33 years and I regret not doing something about it sooner

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just posting cause maybe this will help sum1 else but herb? was the most perfect replacement for prescription stuff for ADHD

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, people don't seem to understand that untreated ADHD can be seriously debilitating. It's not just, "Oh look, a butterfly."

4 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

It makes every single day a living hell, personally. Not surprising we are 6x more likely to kill ourselves

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

So many people get upset because they have to keep repeating themselves for me. 30 seconds and my mind is on another tangent.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Prior to treatment I had never held a job longer than a year. I'm now on year 13 at my first job since medication.

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Is it because jobs become boring and uningeresting after a while?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Understimulation can be painful for people with adhd

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That's a big factor. I also irritate my bosses because I can't pay attention to instructions/explanations for longer than 30 seconds.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Even things you love can become boring and uninteresting, or at least have parts that are boring and uninteresting.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Within 30 seconds people usually say something that sends my brain on a tangent. Then they have to repeat themselves over and over.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tell me about it. I can't stand my hobbies anymore. Doctor seems to think it is depression.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think you need to experience both sides of the coin, i used to be on Ritalin and it did help me focus but now that I'm off it i can see

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how flat i felt while i was taking it. My ADHD isn't too bad though and I've learned to deal with it on my own so i can't speak for everyone

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ritalin had that effect on me but then Adderall didn't. Different drugs effect people differently. Also some people can cope differently.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean...adderall really might help with that.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Aye, same here

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m diagnosed ADHD but my doc won’t give me a adderal because they think my ptsd is the cause so right there with you.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Seriously get a new Dr. And maybe someone to support you through that process.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's awful i'm sorry to hear that, i hope you can find a better doctor

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

God dammit me too

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Here we see the XMen Rouge problem.

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Stupid, sexy X-Men and their rouge!

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

They really do use an excessive amount.

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It works well for me. It really depends. Since I needed it it just makes me able to start tasks and not defy my own intentions all the time.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I felt like I was both a parent dealing with a lazy distracted kid, and the kid. "Oh my god, you still haven't even started?! Come on!"

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Literally how I described it to my spouse. Instead of an angel & devil on my shoulders cartoon style, a 5 year old and their babysitter

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"It's been 3 hours, have you done anything?" "well, I started to read the manual, I got distracted." "Just work on it!" -person, to self

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is my eternal internal monologue.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

What if I'm already boring and neurodivergent?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Been adhd my whole life with no medication. I wanna try Adderall just to see what "normal" feels like.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

At first it was boring and then I found out how much more rewarding it is to pick one rabbit and follow it instead of trying to chase seven

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Was my biggest struggle when started my bipolar meds. Glad the rage and depressive episodes are less but man I miss manic me. She was fun

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Wrecked my life on the regular but I swear I could have run the world.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I just asked my best friend if he thought I had A.D.D. and without missing a beat he said "Of course you do." I think I need to make an appt

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

just got diagnosed at 35, told my good friend, and his response was "oh. no offense, i thought you'd had that diagnosis for years" GL!

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Am therapist who used to work with AD/HD kids. Parents: "It's turned him into a zombie." Me: "Okay, tell the MD." MD would reduce dose. 1/3

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Parents: "It's not doing anything" Me: "Okay, tell the MD." MD would increase dose. Parents: "He's sitting still longer and finishing 2/3

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

his homework, but he still won't listen." Me: "Okay, let's look at some parenting skills." 3/3

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Adderall makes me boring af and I love it. My brain is normally a circus and it just kinda…rounds up all the animals into one tent.

4 years ago | Likes 114 Dislikes 0

i describe mine as a slot machine and i try to aim for 3 "7s" BUT i always get three different fruits.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same for me on the brain part. It makes me way more able to see a thing that needs done and just do it, instead of fighting myself for days

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I have ADD. When I take meds I can focus 10% better. However I can ramble on about obscure scientific and historical facts 90% better.

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My wife and I are having our wedding this October, but we were just married by a judge yesterday. I was laid off in November and we just had

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our first baby. I’m going in to get treated for ADHD. I don’t have time to negotiate with my brain anymore. I hope it helps.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Good luck i hope it will help!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's upsetting to think about how different my life would be now if they'd discovered my ADHD when I was a kid.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Im no expert on ADHD meds but I have taken my fair share of meds. Try out a differnt med and see how it effcts you, it might be better :)

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I recently got a therapists opinion and are now seeking a medical diagnoses. I'm hoping I can get help because right now I'm struggling

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Educational therapist to be clear. University has exasperated the problem as the years have gone on, naturally. Fingers crossed

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good luck, it's difficult but things really do get better when you get the help you need.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah...I'm a teacher, and I'm way more fun off my meds but then nothing gets done. I have to turn into a robot to have a good work ethic.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Without it, my son has zero impulse control. Nothing at all. With it, he has all his same personality and creativity but can control himself

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

ADD is now called ADHD inattentive type. ADHD as a name does not cover the full scope of this condition.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If adderall is killing your emotions, its the wrong drug, adderall should just make you able to focus, think, + minimize distractions.

4 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 0

If you feel it has a drastic change on your personality, that is not the intended effect, and you should tell your doctor.

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Other ADD/ADHD treatments exist, it isn't just adderall, so don't be afraid to ask, being emotionless isn't supposed to happen.

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In NC here, I was forced to learn to do without anything after the adderall I was switched to gave me violent mood swings.

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There are other treatments, I found adderall/vyvanse turn the emotions off hard, but non-stimulant drugs are no way nearly effective enough.

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Excuse ignorance here - but is it possible to find a balance on it? Where you don’t lose your spark, but can still function how you need?

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

It depends on the person the drug and the dosage, it's not an uncommon complaint but it's also not an issue for the majority The most 1/2

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

important part of the medication for me by far is the effects on emotion, for me it just makes it less out of control. 2/2

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm on adderall, fortunately it works as needed; it increases attention span, gives more reliable work ethic, improves thinking coherence.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

If you find it killing your personality or making you act wildly different in any negative way, talk to your doc about different options.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

I think it depends on the person. For me, yes. But my Mom used to call me a zombie if my dosage was adjusted wrong.

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People don't really lose their spark. They're just so used to heightened, uncontrollable emotions & rapid mood swings that being calm and...

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

focused feels boring in comparison. If you've been riding a roller coaster your entire life, a stroll in the park must seem painfully slow.

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Same for bipolar or schizophrenic individuals who initially feel like zombies on neuroleptics. Of course normality feels dull compared to...

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

riding a hypomanic high that is not unlike a cocaine trip or being in a constant state of hypervigilance while your brain works overtime ...

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to assign a deep meaning to trivial details and concoct the wildest conspiracy theories. Meds slow people down, allow them some much-needed…

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Try different medicines. There are A LOT of them out there. My son finally got on one (funnily Adderall) that balances everything. He

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Had been in others before. Vyvanse worked the same, but he needed a bigger dose (as he got bigger) and insurance wouldn't cover it. So we

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Have had to try different things.

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It balanced them out. That's what it does to people like us and it's awful sometimes.

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It definitely is awful sometimes. But low functioning is worse (for me at least). I guess that’s the trade off for folks like us?

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Me too friend

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Being on the wrong drugs or wrong dose is hell, for me I wasn't depressed but I wasn't anything else just a moodless thing existing

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

My Mom used to say I was a zombie my dosage was adjusted wrong. G

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That’s how I felt on anti-depressants after my mom died. I wasn’t sad. But I wasn’t happy either. I just wasn’t.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Can confirm. Been on meds for ADHD for nearly a year now, starting out I felt amazing, like I was a new man, now I feel Bilbo in LOTR.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Sort of stretched. Like butter scraped over too much bread. I feel tired all the time, but can hardly sleep.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Try a different medicine. There are so many different ones. Everyone is different and with each illness, different meds are available.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Don't forget to take days off.

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Days off the pills or just in general?

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Days off the medication. I take mine 5 days a week- this works for me. I take days off when I haven't got much on. Allows me to nap freely.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Huh. I did take myself off them for a week at the start of March (cos of Current Events), but I thought you weren't supposed to stop dead?

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That's what Adderall does, it's an amphetamine so you'll gradually need more of it to achieve the same effect just like meth. I got off it>

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I'm not on Adderall, tho. On Lisdexamphetamine instead.

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>after two years because it stopped working, elevated my heartrate, and I refused to up the dosage for fear of dependency. On Wellbutrin now

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I eventually refused to take it, it kinda stripped my empathy when I was on it

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That’s why it was given to the Nazis during the blitzkrieg https://time.com/5752114/nazi-military-drugs/

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That's weird, I discovered my empathy after I started on it. First day I nearly started crying in public because a stranger told a sad story

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Fuck I hate shit like that. I get that too sometimes!

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Have you tried a lower dose or non stimulant medication? They don't have the same effect on emotion

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I had to stop taking adderal cause I got so damned sleepy on it I started just sleeping through work days ?

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That happened to me - mid afternoon I’d crash so damn hard. XR version didn’t have a crash but also like wasn’t as effective. On Vyvanse now

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Ritalin was useful in my younger years, but had side effects of being less "fun" and having no appetite. Food was not enjoyable.

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I struggle with empathy. I swing between caring way too much or not at all. I’d prolly be a fucking nightmare if I took this then too!

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Oh this sounds familiar. I'm atm at "I don't care about anyone" phase. I feel like a douche, even tho I act the same as before.

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Sounds like me right now.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damn this is me as well, someone close to me will die and i wont care but if i listen to a sad song im bawling my eyes out wtf

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Oh my god I do this too. Fucked up level of weird

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As somebody who is the same and has adhd medication, it has helped me a lot with my emotions, it's more likely to help than harm.

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I’ve never been medicated for adhd. Guess I should be on them but I’ve been on so many things it’s nice to have a little break for a bit.

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It's probably worth considering, most people with ADHD should be on the medication it's by far the most effective treatment for it.

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i like Strattera for this reason

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Strattera was awesome but I developed an allergic reaction to it. Massive Hives. looked like a red and white cow for a couple days.

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Now I’ve got an image of a rad and white cow in my head. From far away it looks pink.

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what do you use now

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

similar issues, tried Strattera, live it

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I just started that to switch off addy. Have you noticed different effects?

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On the other hand Strattera gave me crippling depression. So did Concerta. Started Vyvanse last month, slowly started doing things again

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That's why I quit after ~16 years. Made my already limited capacity for empathy worse. I had some lasting side effects from its use, too.

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limited capacity = can be increased through practice

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What kind of side affects if you don’t mind me asking?

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Just a long-lasting inability to enjoy things, since I stopped in ~2018. Even food, or sex. Wellbutrin helps a *lot* though.

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I found similar from long term antidepressant use. I’m not on them anymore but still struggle to erm enjoy sex. And it makes me sad.

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Wellbutrin made sex feel good again, for me. Fucking anti anxiety meds ruin me.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You're supposed to fuck your partner (or hands, or toys), not your anti anxiety meds!

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Sooo. What is Wellbutrin for exactly? Like, did you tell your doc you’re not enjoying sex or how did that work?

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If you're 'normal' Adderall is a MASSIVE upper and sends you bouncing off the walls. If you're neurodivergent, Adderall makes you.... normal

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Not really, it's a bit more complicated than that.

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It is MUCH more complicated than that, but I only got 140 characters to work with, and I have seen it offer great help to some people I know

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Well, if it works. If you are ND and it ain’t right for your brain setup, boy howdy. Depressive episodes, violent outbursts, and more

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Yeah, the problem with the brain is that we still know SO LITTLE about it. Adderall has worked wonders for SOME people I know.

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100%!

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"normal" *

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Yeah, it's a touchy word, and I was on the fence about using it, but I was trying to keep it under 140 characters...

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Also makes people angry af. If this happens talk to your doctor and switch meds.

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100%. Talk to your doctor even if it works GREAT for you. Medications like this are not something you should just dabble in.

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It calms me down in that my brain is not going 100000x a sec. I still murder people with guinea pigs but it's more efficient to hide bodies.

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See? It IS effective!

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When i was 6 I thought my Ritalin might make me a teenage mutant ninja turtle. But really it just let me finish my homework

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Life is full of disappointment :P

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Its more like it hyper wires your ad/h/d tendency to hyperfocus. But. Essentially yes.

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It's a nootropic. It helps normal people focus too. Hospitals and colleges run on a coffee, and not because everyone has ADHD.

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Adderall didn't do anything for me. It didn't help with my symptoms but it didn't really do anything negative either.

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Yeah, it's not a cure-all. There are TONS of other medications on the market though, and unfortunately, a lot of times it's trial and error

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This. You'd think I was on drugs if I didn't take my Adderall.

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This claim really highlights the general lack of understanding for medications. There are only a few types where amphetamines will do that

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And on top of that, conc of drug, how it's metabolized, which form is active, how it's dist in the body... could go on and on

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You are right, and in the future I'll be more specific. How does this hit you? If you have CERTAIN kinds of ND, Adderall COULD be beneficial

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Not normal at you're still high on amphetamines. These stimulants should not be prescribed for children.

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OR people should get whatever MEDICINE they need to be and feel healthy. fuck if its an amphetamine, if it works it works.

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You aren't "high" in any way when you are correctly using your prescribed amphetamines for ADHD and sleep disorders.

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Are you antivax by any chance?

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It still causes massive dopamine release and down regulation of associated receptors.

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Also nice ad hominem. But no anti vax here. Now we going to have a discussion or trade insults.

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25 years and counting

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No wonder when I tried taking it recreationally in HS all I did was actually finish my schoolwork for the day. Still tired AF, but man...

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couple years ago on vacation i was depressed and tired and didnt want to go to the beach at all, brother gave me an adderall and i basically

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just "woke up" like the depression was kinda there (when isnt it) but i actually had energy to enjoy the day. difference was night and day

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It is NOT for everyone... but the people it IS for can see massive benefits, so it shouldn't be discounted without consulting a doctor.

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So I'm not diagnosed ADHD, but I have a personality disorder with problems of concentration. When I took it, I had more energy but I was...

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Very focused on my job at work. Able to complete a lot. What does THAT mean?

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I would check in with a real doctor. All I have is anecdotal evidence that it's helped several people I know focus and enjoy their lives.

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I'm waiting for my psych test results. I'm actually on prescribed diet pills, similar in nature. Energy, but able to focus w/o being hyper.

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Sounds like you're on the right track! I hope it works out great!!

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I was on 15mg XR (about 10MG too much) as an adult: it completely deleted my personality.

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In the future, I'll be more careful in my wording. How's this: if you're neurodivergent in a very specific way, Adderall CAN help you.

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yea, before people self medicate with it, talk to a professional to figure out dosages.

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One HUNDRED percent. NEVER self medicate. ALWAYS seek professional guidance.

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Of your a very specific flavour of nerodevergent. Its VERY important to not use a blanket term like that when you need specificity.

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Yeah, I agree with that. If it's right for you, it's right for you. Consult an actual doctor before taking ANY drug.

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My friend and I went a party whilst in college, and a guy was passing out ADHD patches. Everyone else trippy on em but we were just chillin

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Both of us were like "Ah. Undiagnosed ADHD." Later got my own prescribed meds and it tried to give a heart attack. Fun.

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yeah, not an IDEAL outcome... There are a lot of other meds available these days, though - and quite a few non-stimulant.

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Point is make sure to take drugs from strangers kids! If they are offering, it's probably some half decent shit.

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.....yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. Drugs are hard to come by, so take them when they're offered :)

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Err... I'm ND and it turned me into a zombie. With reduced need for sleep.

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I realized since posting that I should have been MUCH more specific. if you're neurodivergent in a very specific way, Adderall COULD help.

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Yup. First time I had medication as an adult, I cried. My mind was quiet, calm and focused. I missed so much growing up

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Words, phrases, and books have a lot more beauty in them for me now

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I cried too. Makes me wonder if I'm so introverted because it was so loud in my head ALL the time, because now it's almost too quiet.

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That's the EXACT reaction I had in college. I took it and went to a math class. I just came home and wept.

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All it did for me was make me less hungry.

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I've heard that it is sometimes used as a weight-loss drug.

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I'm neurodivergent Adderall made me angry at the slightest provocation.

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YMMV. I was put on them for ADHD and it caused psychosis. After being taken off basically everything improved

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I feel like that fits any psychotropic. I know some people who think Adderall is shit and they'd never touch it. Some, it changed their life

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Adderall makes my very hyperactive kid just toned down enough to not have his teacher call me everyday & him occasionally listen to me.

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It just makes me tired I don't know why it just does

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How does caffeine hit you? For the people that I know who are on Adderall, coffee or cola makes them tired.

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Caffeine largely doesn't affect me at all anymore. But that's probably because I use so much of it I honestly couldn't say one way or /

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Another, I've been drinking caffeine since the very unhealthy age of 5. Haha

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I am borderline. It does a little bit of both for me - makes me serious (more focused) and a bit hyper (like just a bit more coffee).

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Omg, same, friend! BPD, and I got more energy, like a large coffee, but I was so focused on my work.

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Couldn't it be used to help find who is?

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I mean, it COULD... but that's a hell of a die to roll. Adderall is a controlled stimulant, and could VERY easily lead to bad results.

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I took some when I was younger made me bad shit crazy full out uncontrollable rage and anger just destroy my room throw things around, calm

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Down, realize what I did, spend hours cleaning up, the pills just made it worse like I had no control over my brain they did tons of exercis

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I had to carry dictionaries in my backpack and walk around the school everyday cause I had to much energy

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Had a massive freakout, would be violent for very little reason and it got worse over a year or two then my mom said fuck y'all changed me

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I never got diagnosed ADHD as a kid, but I then experienced this when I took speed - I was like... uhh... this is making me calmer guys?

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It makes me calmer in my head but my body still wants to gooooooo

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Tried it once, nearly fell asleep at the table. Coffee also conks me out?

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Can be ADHD

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Indeed. A pal of mine currently pursuing a ADHD diagnosis, they pointed out that 4 out of the 6 of us probably have it too.

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I know someone who got diagnosed because they were listening to an ADHD diagnosis and kept saying, "Wait, I do that... and that.. and that."

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Huh...that rings a bell...

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Tried MDMA and it made me super sleepy, then depleted my endorphins for the following week. I mean it was a *good* nap, but... damn

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I had the same reaction to coke.

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The D-word or the beverage?

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I've tried it once only and it was like I was conducting a science experiment on those around me, i was super focused on each personality...

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... taking mental notes and super observant. Still not sure if that's how one gets on it.

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I'm fairly sure not all neurodivergents react this way to Adderall...

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Yes. Some kids with ADHD get really irritated with stimulants and doesn't impact them in positive ways. Others really benefit. Everyone

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The bigger point is: there are other neurodivergencies besides ADHD. That's the bigger issue bugging me

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I have ADHD and I gain energy from most medication. On no meds I'm mostly hypoactive, meaning I just lay around, being tired from my brain.

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Yes and that is good but not all neurodivergencies are like ADHD and are not supposed to be treated with Adderall

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This is correct. It's not a magic bullet, and it's not for everyone... but for those it IS for, it's like magic. Talk to a doctor.

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Yes, of course, it is still appropriate treatment for some. But conflating ADHD, ADD, and many other neurodivergencies is just plain wrong.

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I’m neurodivergent af. Life is… painful. Idk what adderall would do to me though, I’ve got afib. I just…. NEED to be normal. I’m tired of

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needing to do 2-3 things at the same time to be able to focus at all and finish anything. It sucks. Then I can’t tell what’s undiagnosed

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My friend was diagnosed with adhd recently at age 46. He’s on meds now and it’s changed his life, he’s very happy.

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I’m 37. The more I’ve seen “signs you might have ADHD” vids on tiktok I’ve been like “fuck. This is me.” I asked my neuro the stuff that can

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also be epilepsy signs & she said it sounds like it could be ADHD & when I can afford it she said she’d get me a ref & get me diagnosed 100%

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ADHD disassociation or seizure/epilepsy disassociation. It’s the fucking worse. Fuck Covid for leaving me with epilepsy, brain fog, & other

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shit.

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I would NEVER tell a stranger to go start taking Adderall. What I WILL say is go talk to a doctor and see what IS going on in your head 1/

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Look, you need to talk to a doctor. But I'll say it changed my life 15 years ago. I was 25 and in college and had been borderline flunking

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While this is the stereotype, it's exaggerated. Although we respond differently to it than others, it has powerful reinforcing effects, too.

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Cmon man just gimme a little bit to try!

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For me it this isn’t an exaggerated scenario. I was having a hard time in college & my roommate gave me Adderall. She was bouncing off the >

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Damn walls going from cleaning to exercising to studying. For me I it felt like the fog had lifted & everything was clear, like there was>>

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A static around me I didn’t know existed. It was like that feeling you get after a massage, a relaxing serenity of calm.

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I feel like a short order cook, no servers, just customers yelling their order. Adderall creates a server, and host, and a full kitchen staf

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I've seen it in action - both ways. I know a couple of folks who'd take one before going out for the night to have a good time, 1/

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and some who can't get through the day without it.

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I've spent a lot of time suffering though a lifetime. I know it exists, but I'm scared to try it. to this day I am still on the fence.

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I am NOT a doctor, and you should do what you feel is best for you. I can only relate that anecdotally it has helped several people I know.

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I use it as medication. It helps with emotional regulation. Not many folk realise how helpful that is for nuerodivergent people.

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Adhd meds changed my life my friend. I was on Adderall xr, but I've moved to vyvanse and that works best for me. I can actually thrive now

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There are other drugs for this... Adderall has always worked best for me, but there are def other options

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Adderal isn't the only adhd treatment drug. Especially if you don't live in the US. I myself am on Atomoxetin

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Man if you're suffering you should def give it a shot. I'm happier managing mine without meds, but there's no harm in trying and if you find

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There are now nonstimulant ADD/ADHD drugs. Talk to your mental health care provider about options.

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I was scared of taking anti depressants, lost years of my life and my business in doing so. If you don't like it you can stop taking it.

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Trust me. It's worth it. The fog doesn't completely disappear, but at least for half the day.

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Why are you scared? If you don't like it, stop taking it. Adderall literally saved my job. I'd get fired without it.

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For me Adderall made me feel very amped and the negative side effects were too much, Vyvanse, however, makes me feel focused and normal. 5/7

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Same here on the Adderall, I'm trying Ritalin now and it's meh,I don't feel like it's doing much. I hope Vyvanse works for me!

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I’ve been through various doses of adderall, strattera, & Concerta. Vyvanse is best balance so far. Not perfect, but I cleaned the kitchen

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Vyvanse has saved my sanity, school grades, and kitchen. When I forget my Vyvanse, my life is the 90's AOL Dial-up tone on repeat.

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The 5/7 there might be the funniest/most ADHD thing ever (and I saw your Hobby post earlier, forgot to +1, so you get one here, too)

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My brother has ADD but got severely addicted to it, had to leave his law firm to take time and ween off. Scary stuff.

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Adderall makes me focused and happy and capable of completing many tasks in an order that makes sense, but fuck sleeping.

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Same. No bouncing off walls, it calmed my anxiety and I got my Masters Thesis done. Made me believe in myself, which was nice. Didn’t sleep

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for 2 days after, but for a while it was really nice to be able to focus. My bro has ADHD, I’ve only been diagnosed with GAD (anxiety).

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But from some research I’ve done, it seems girls present with ADHD differently than guys, so maybe misdiagnosed? Who knows.

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Also don’t forget forgetting to eat literally all day then getting a dehydration headache at 3pm ?

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How can I? There's a headache to remind me!

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I don't take Adderall but i take Buspirone for me ADD, it feels like wiping the fog off the inside of my brain, like i couldn't see before.

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Buspar for ADHD? Sure it's not buproprion/Wellbutrin? Anxiety is a component of some ADHD, so I can see it helping in some cases.

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Maybe i got it backwards, i take Buspirone and Amantadine i can't remember which is which for which.

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Amantadine, but anything for anxiety, like buspar, might be helpful if the ADHD is due to anxiety. Much better initial choice than->

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I haven't heard of that one before, but there are SO many meds out there it's impossible to keep track. Glad you found something that helps!

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It depends on the symptom presentation but if you never have to expend energy to do a thing because the ADHD does it for you then when the

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I'm like 9 months into medicated adhd, and this explains so much. My drive and ambition has skyrocketed though, so a good trade-off.

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Oh absolutely. It won’t be for everyone but for my it improved my quality of life dramatically.

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symptoms are controlled you no longer have that driving force and can have trouble remembering to do the things that are “normal” for you.

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For example, checking mirrors while driving. It took me a week to ER-learn to do that because before it always just… happened on its own.

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Well fuck. Googling away I go!

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Thank fuck, I'm not alone. It's like ADHD meds shut down my auto-run features and I've been having to reprogram my brain.

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Holy fuck... I never attributed that automatically checking the mirrors every 5 seconds was part of my adhd. That makes so much more sense.

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I do not recommend Adderall as a fix-it for everyone. I've seen it work wonders for SOME people, and I've seen it do nothing for others.

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if by "normal" we mean "forced to hyperfocus all fucking day and it's so goddamn exhausting i tell ya hwat". sure.

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Hyperfocus is a feature of ADHD. If you're STILL hyperfocusing while on Adderall, might want to talk to your doctor about that.

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Hyperfocus is what many of us have when we're NOT medicated. We just can't control what we hyperfocus on. "Normal" means able to focus, but

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not forced. Still get distracted, but it's not a compulsion. Can get things done or be lazy, not yanked to one or the other.

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This makes me think maybe I need to be off my antidepressants and try out ADHD meds again.

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I've always thought that all these mental disorders didn't need drugs. We need to live right. Companies need us on drugs.

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There is some truth to this. When I stopped forcing myself to work 9-5 with a complete career change, I tripled my success.

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yeah, having the right manual is more important. that way we can exploit ourselves properly instead of letting a company do it.

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I mean... I went from throwing chairs and suitcases at walls and people to reasonably stable and happy (most of the time). But you do you.

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Go find a fire. Stay in it until you cease moving and the smoke inhalation wins.

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Are you an adult? Jesus

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Think of me as whatever is most likely to make you follow the above instructions.

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Gtfo. Move to Rusk, Vlad.

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Yeah bro we should all go back to drinking willow bark tea instead of using these dang ibuprofens

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Oof, you got downvoted hard. I would say that medication can be right for some people, and separately that corps want people addicted

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I don't care at all. People will take whatever they want and ignore the rest at their pleasure

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This is a troll. DNI.

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Fuck you man. See? I'm honest.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Do Not Interact?

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Correct.

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We had to get our daughter tested for ADHD and, while we’re not totally against putting her on medication, we’re hoping getting her a 504>

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>plan with things like, more time on tests, shortened assignments, or being able to go into a quiet room alone to take tests will be enough>

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>to help her without the need for medication. If she’s still struggling after we’ve exhausted all of our other options, we will consider>

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More time on tests can actually be a bad thing for ADHD due to it removing pressure which is often a motivating factor

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Adderall turned me into a massive asshole, they switched me to Vyvanse and upped the dosage. Seems to be working a lot better but the 1/

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Yeah I couldn’t afford vyvanse, even tho it’s the best in my opinion

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High five for the Vyvanse club

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High-low-high-low for the Concerta & high metabolism -club!

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Vyvanse has been good for me and my younger daughter. But for my older daughter it made her moody and angry. It’s interesting how they all>

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Genetic thing. Im supposed to only take Vyvanse but still stuck on ritalin. Ritalin is toxic to my liver but I have no choice.

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I talked to a doctor who told me with all the medical advances we've made, we still know VERY little about how the brain works. That's 1/

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why there are SO MANY different types of psychotropics out there and why some work for people and some don't. We're basically fumbling 2/

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Price tag on it is fucking brutal even with insurance. Without it it's 426 bucks.

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They put me on concerta which was like 2 hundred when I was dead broke college student. Now I get generic Ritalin 180 pills, 10mg for $30.

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When I was on adderall it was $10 for 30 pills but this Vyvanse is $100 with insurance for 30 pills. Thankfully someone gave me that coupon

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That's on the cheaper end too. I looked up the price since it's not a contracted item. $899. There's other alternatives too.

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Horrifying price tags...

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Have you considered [redacted] your politicians until healthcare gets paid for by your taxes?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There’s a manufacturer coupon on their website. It might lower the price even with insurance. I pay $30

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Good news! My psychiatrist told me the generic version is supposed to come out at the end of May!

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Over the counter and easy to get or still needing doctor prescription

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It's an amphetamine. With abuse potential. Rx.

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Sadly, Vyvanse is not scheduled to be available generically until Feb. 2023. This is according a summary judgment that upheld the patent.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Interesting. My psychiatrist told me that last week. Hmm.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Coupon code https://www.vyvanse.com/coupon works in the USA. I pay $30 a refill.

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Thank you so much! Already printed it out

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Save a copy, you can use it every refill.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've been on it for 8 years and for the first time it was free (all I had to do was lose my job, live in poverty, and sign up for Medicaid)

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I had good insurance before but it still didn't pay for everything like Medicaid has. Teeth, however, are luxury bones.

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Maybe it's just my state, but after I got on Medicaid I also got MCNA. Essentially medicaid for dental work.4 cleanings a yr they fixed 2 te

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I've been there before man, that Medicaid is awesome but then luxury bones though. It'll get better though dude

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Per month*

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Look up goodrx and see if you can get it cheaper. It's what i use for my stuff and it saves me a lot of money.

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Yeeep, I know that struggle. It's because Vyvanse is patented, so only one distributor and generic is unavailable. But it's the only 1/2

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effective treatment for me, so fuck me guess 2/2

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