The goal is to associate opposition to ice with the crew who just show up to protest everything rather than the majority of Americans, the responder is unwittingly going along with it, and signal boosting it just spreads the message. Be smarter about propaganda and how it works.
In my experience they are not only wearing both the keffiyeh and the fuck ice hat, but also respirator masks to protect themselves and their community from covid/flu.
If you're on twitter you're giving ad revenue to fascists and you're making a fascist propaganda platform relevant by pushing it in the algorithms. It's like people who "hate watch" youtubers or streamers. You're not fooling anyone except yourself. The system doesn't see you as a "Hater" or an antifascist. It just sees that another person is using their propaganda platform and you're pushing it further out there. So, yeah. Go fuck yourself.
Does this comment make sense to you? I don't get how hundreds of people can upvote the tweet screenshot, but then people also seem to overall agree with this "go fuck yourself for using twitter" comment. My reaction was so mild, too. Confusing.
Yes, I have. I own a copy. That phrase is not in it. Even the article you linked only says that the concept of knowing one's enemies is in it, which it is. But that's not the same thing as keeping your enemies closer than your friends.
Because no other site has properly adopted what Twitter used to be good at and so many artists of all mediums depend on it to survive, which in turn means people who like their stuff and can't access it elsewhere. People who don't use the site (good on you, I genuinely mean that) don't understand how easy it is to use it in a complete bubble, with zero interaction with the massive amount of fascist bot troll garbage.
Honest answer: Because the things that make Twitter useful weren't successfully migrated anywhere else.
The things that Twitter was useful for was being able to have real-time updates from companies on consumer complaints and tech support, and to be able to have conversations/give feedback to people you normally wouldn't be able to (such as content creators).
Because not enough users moved to a new platform (ie Bluesky), corporations don't see it as worth their time to move.
Because they aren't as outraged as they claim to be. It's a platform specifically purchased and owned by a Nazi salute throwing man child. Who uses grok to silence dissent and it creates child porn, but "tHeRe's sTILl gOod COnTeNt".
Imgur is bad enough, but using Twitter specifically makes Elon money and helps keep his BS afloat.
If imgur went full grok cp and fascist I'd switch to S3ND.
Lol, took me a second to realize you meant the platform xitter, and not platform - in the metaphysical sense of being against fascism... I was thinking, "what are we calling the actions of ice now, if not fascist?"
U every notice front page barely gets a few hundred likes, now compared to thousands back then? Many people left. Business daddy took over, AI moderates posts and runs the help-line, many people face issues uploading vids... There's probably more but I can't think of recent stuff right now, just that it's been circling the drain for a while.
echo chambers are popular... no matter what side you're on.. we're all susceptible to staying where we're not surrounded by people we perceive as morons..
ahh, downvotes from the idiots that think they're immune to bias as well, keep em coming guys, make sure everybody knows that the right doesn't have an absolute monopoly on the willfully ignorant
They like to frame the first as anti-Semite terrorists, so this is probably just calling opposition to ICE terrorism. Irony is a foreign language to them.
It's like that time the republicans ran an attack ad against Biden and then Biden just used the whole thing as a campaign ad, "I approve this message."
There's a meme/screenshot of Faux News showing a Dem's (Mamdani, I think) positions as a scare tactic but everyone was like, "yeah, pretty much nailed it, thanks for spreading the message."
Sorry correction, it was a speech MTG gave at a Turning Point conference where she was highlighting all the great shit he did as a negative, and all they did was add, "I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message."
I don't disagree with the notion that they're possibly acquainting anti-ICE to terrorism, but I think the hat reading "Unmask ICE Agents" is a clue for a different interpretation. They're saying "Liberals support masked terrorists opposing Israel but they oppose masked officers enforcing the law." Maybe. In my experience these chucklefucks barely know what they're trying to say half the time anyway, and they're just regurgitating a sentiment they barely understood to begin with.
It is again another display of ignorance of those on the right trying to make blanket moral judgements of the actions themselves instead of understanding the reasoning and context behind the separate circumstances the actions are being engaged in.
It's not even a tendency of the right to view everything in an acontextual light as it is bad-faith oppositional scrutiny. They understand context and nuance when it allows them to justify the actions of their own side. January 6th has become a day that is nothing *but* "context" for the right. When looking at the left, there is no context, just actions that can be called hypocritical. Some do it out of ignorance and a lack of critical thinking, but its root is usually malicious individuals.
I explained this in another comment about how the human mind is able to hold two contradictory points and then subconsciously justify it without being consciously aware they are doing so—generally, exceptions exist of those in power but that's a more specific subset of the whole.
The thing is, it isn't just one thing, it's a combination of many different facets of human psychology and sociology.
You're right. Cognitive dissonance is a universally human experience, it doesn't just apply to politics and it certainly doesn't apply to only one side of the political aisle. We live in complicated systems and our brains naturally prioritize comfort over truth. This experience by itself does not make you morally inferior, but when you have no ability to self-reflect you wind up building a worldview built on extremely dissonant foundation. A conservative worldview is often extremely dissonant.
The context is the last 50 years of people trying to side with Palestine, recently accelerated by the live streaming genocide of Palestinians from USA backed Israeli wearing a kefiah as symbol of its right to exist.
Then the acceleration of disgust against Gestapo-ICE shown by the hat.
The Republican-fascist propaganda compares a kefiah, in their distorted ideas a symbol of Muslim violent terrorists, to the no ICE hat.
It's not. You don't understand because the person who made it doesn't understand. It doesn't make sense because it just doesn't make sense. You'd find deeper meaning in a dogs fart.
For one, I don't understand the format. Who is reply to who? From the text, it appears David is replying to Alice, but from the format, it appears Alice is replying to David. Who does Simpson represent?
David is replying. As for the context the "meme" is basically them implying it's hypocritical. As for the mental gymnastics required to come to that conclusion...idk
Remember that, to them, people who say "Free Palestine" are "bad people who support terrorism" and ICE is an organization that is "defending the US from illegal immigrants and 'other' terrorist threats".
Now re-interpret the meme with this context and you understand their twisted perspective. It's utterly indefensible when you actually understand the facts but that's not a strong suit of the right-wing fanatics.
I don't know who the fascist is in this image. I see a person who is denouncing what seems to be Israel and Ice, that seems to be David. Then you have Alice which is posting a Simpson meme where Simpson is Free Palestine retreating into the bush then he comes out as fuck ice. Make it make sense
I am just going to assume Alice is the fascist here because their meme doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever, from any perspective, and conclude I really don't care to figure out how they intend the meme to be interpreted
I see where you told me to the fascists, "free palestine are bad who support terrorism" I knew that. I see where you told me Ice is an organization that is defending hte us from illegal immigrants and other terrorist threats (according to fascism) I get everything you're saying, so far, and knew all that. But when you tell me to re-interpret the meme, I get absolute fkn nothing. The only thing the meme communicates is that free palestine people and fuck ice people are the same people?
mardukkur
The goal is to associate opposition to ice with the crew who just show up to protest everything rather than the majority of Americans, the responder is unwittingly going along with it, and signal boosting it just spreads the message. Be smarter about propaganda and how it works.
worm61
We actually wear both hats at the same time.
9z2nf02h
In my experience they are not only wearing both the keffiyeh and the fuck ice hat, but also respirator masks to protect themselves and their community from covid/flu.
jwillywill
https://imgur.com/u1lYjlW.mp4
hotaru251
our grandfathers fought and died to put these fk's down.
Raikupath
If you're on twitter you're giving ad revenue to fascists and you're making a fascist propaganda platform relevant by pushing it in the algorithms. It's like people who "hate watch" youtubers or streamers. You're not fooling anyone except yourself. The system doesn't see you as a "Hater" or an antifascist. It just sees that another person is using their propaganda platform and you're pushing it further out there. So, yeah. Go fuck yourself.
xypotion
Please dial it down a little, comrade
shardix
xypotion
Does this comment make sense to you? I don't get how hundreds of people can upvote the tweet screenshot, but then people also seem to overall agree with this "go fuck yourself for using twitter" comment. My reaction was so mild, too. Confusing.
beaubrent
Why are people still on that fascist platform?
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Besides fascists and pornstars there's people who troll bootlickers
Raikupath
while giving ad revenue to fascists. Yeah you really showed them!
OobieDoobBenubi
The fascists are shooketh.

ironymus
"Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" Sung Tzu - the art of war
Lampmonster
That's from The Godfather not Sung Tzu.
ironymus
Have you read "the art of war"? I have and the quote IS from Sun Tsu. The godfather is also quoting him.
https://k2digitizers.com/origins-of-the-phrase-keep-your-friends-close-and-your-enemies-closer/
Lampmonster
Yes, I have. I own a copy. That phrase is not in it. Even the article you linked only says that the concept of knowing one's enemies is in it, which it is. But that's not the same thing as keeping your enemies closer than your friends.
ChloePrice
Because no other site has properly adopted what Twitter used to be good at and so many artists of all mediums depend on it to survive, which in turn means people who like their stuff and can't access it elsewhere. People who don't use the site (good on you, I genuinely mean that) don't understand how easy it is to use it in a complete bubble, with zero interaction with the massive amount of fascist bot troll garbage.
GameboyMicro
Mainly cool Japanese performance-artists
Xenarion
People are on Twitter because people are on Twitter.
HappyTimeHollis
Honest answer: Because the things that make Twitter useful weren't successfully migrated anywhere else.
The things that Twitter was useful for was being able to have real-time updates from companies on consumer complaints and tech support, and to be able to have conversations/give feedback to people you normally wouldn't be able to (such as content creators).
Because not enough users moved to a new platform (ie Bluesky), corporations don't see it as worth their time to move.
TrumpRapesChildren
Why do they use Twitter still?
Because they aren't as outraged as they claim to be. It's a platform specifically purchased and owned by a Nazi salute throwing man child. Who uses grok to silence dissent and it creates child porn, but "tHeRe's sTILl gOod COnTeNt".
Imgur is bad enough, but using Twitter specifically makes Elon money and helps keep his BS afloat.
If imgur went full grok cp and fascist I'd switch to S3ND.
MotherEffinSatan
They're slowly diversifying to BS (lol) but its taking a fuckall long time
thotterpop
Lol, took me a second to realize you meant the platform xitter, and not platform - in the metaphysical sense of being against fascism... I was thinking, "what are we calling the actions of ice now, if not fascist?"
KrondorMocker
going by recent events, you mean..................................imgur?
DutchBoeremeisie
Hmmm? What happened here?
thotterpop
U every notice front page barely gets a few hundred likes, now compared to thousands back then? Many people left. Business daddy took over, AI moderates posts and runs the help-line, many people face issues uploading vids... There's probably more but I can't think of recent stuff right now, just that it's been circling the drain for a while.
DutchBoeremeisie
The comment implied Imgur had become a fascist platform. Hence my question.
ShadeMeadowsArt
A lot of reasons unfortunately.
I'm still there 'cause of a project I'm in, and giveaways.
DevilsAdvocat
echo chambers are popular... no matter what side you're on.. we're all susceptible to staying where we're not surrounded by people we perceive as morons..
DevilsAdvocat
ahh, downvotes from the idiots that think they're immune to bias as well, keep em coming guys, make sure everybody knows that the right doesn't have an absolute monopoly on the willfully ignorant
cdlong
Yeah, I'm not sure what point he was trying to make there.
LinguisticBitch
The hat is what’s the dmbest here. They think the left has merch like the right. They clearly admit they’re in a cult.
ShadyHunter
They like to frame the first as anti-Semite terrorists, so this is probably just calling opposition to ICE terrorism. Irony is a foreign language to them.
Ghlargh
They are so far up their own ass that they think everyone else sees the world like they do.
ReaperCDN
It's like that time the republicans ran an attack ad against Biden and then Biden just used the whole thing as a campaign ad, "I approve this message."
cdlong
There's a meme/screenshot of Faux News showing a Dem's (Mamdani, I think) positions as a scare tactic but everyone was like, "yeah, pretty much nailed it, thanks for spreading the message."
ReaperCDN
Sorry correction, it was a speech MTG gave at a Turning Point conference where she was highlighting all the great shit he did as a negative, and all they did was add, "I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message."
LookingLikeASnack
I don't disagree with the notion that they're possibly acquainting anti-ICE to terrorism, but I think the hat reading "Unmask ICE Agents" is a clue for a different interpretation. They're saying "Liberals support masked terrorists opposing Israel but they oppose masked officers enforcing the law." Maybe. In my experience these chucklefucks barely know what they're trying to say half the time anyway, and they're just regurgitating a sentiment they barely understood to begin with.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
That could be one perspective to interpret this.
It is again another display of ignorance of those on the right trying to make blanket moral judgements of the actions themselves instead of understanding the reasoning and context behind the separate circumstances the actions are being engaged in.
LookingLikeASnack
It's not even a tendency of the right to view everything in an acontextual light as it is bad-faith oppositional scrutiny. They understand context and nuance when it allows them to justify the actions of their own side. January 6th has become a day that is nothing *but* "context" for the right. When looking at the left, there is no context, just actions that can be called hypocritical. Some do it out of ignorance and a lack of critical thinking, but its root is usually malicious individuals.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
I explained this in another comment about how the human mind is able to hold two contradictory points and then subconsciously justify it without being consciously aware they are doing so—generally, exceptions exist of those in power but that's a more specific subset of the whole.
The thing is, it isn't just one thing, it's a combination of many different facets of human psychology and sociology.
LookingLikeASnack
You're right. Cognitive dissonance is a universally human experience, it doesn't just apply to politics and it certainly doesn't apply to only one side of the political aisle. We live in complicated systems and our brains naturally prioritize comfort over truth. This experience by itself does not make you morally inferior, but when you have no ability to self-reflect you wind up building a worldview built on extremely dissonant foundation. A conservative worldview is often extremely dissonant.
BenjyX55
"Treats for puppies!" ... "Treats for kittens!"
philmoregraves
Ummmmm excuse me "all animals getting treats" matter
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
You monster!
walterPPK
“Oh wow so you’re anti-tortoise now? Figured”
IOnlyUpvoteBees
I think dogs should vote. They are a better judge of character.
Badgerbadgerson3
.....Griffin Mcelroy?
IOnlyUpvoteBees
In space… when you cum, it push you backward.
IOnlyUpvoteBees
Yes from the the McElroys. https://youtu.be/0RsLNwVAAos?si=y1uu0d-NbzPuFYmT this is weird, I haven’t talked with someone that knows them.
mechanerd
Thojira
NO TREAT
JustSomePersonThere
BenderRodriguz1010
OK ok, we can get an S, N, A, C, K.
JustSomePersonThere
Well he knows THAT one!
BenderRodriguz1010
No treat
lgkinasen
Taxes.
punderstorm
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eDh3ODFhMnlpbHIxOXF1ZXE3eHRudHk2c21iMXMzZ3R0NDZqZGpiNiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/LsOhtyMJrVNtXiqWXN/200w.webp
lonelyrangerofthedreams
Fascists can’t meme
youaresolost
I honestly don't understand it at all. I feel like context is missing.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
The context is the last 50 years of people trying to side with Palestine, recently accelerated by the live streaming genocide of Palestinians from USA backed Israeli wearing a kefiah as symbol of its right to exist.
Then the acceleration of disgust against Gestapo-ICE shown by the hat.
The Republican-fascist propaganda compares a kefiah, in their distorted ideas a symbol of Muslim violent terrorists, to the no ICE hat.
It means: leftist are terrorists.
Maverickaura
It's not. You don't understand because the person who made it doesn't understand. It doesn't make sense because it just doesn't make sense. You'd find deeper meaning in a dogs fart.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
The context is that MAGA and fascists (=the same) are idiots
youaresolost
For one, I don't understand the format. Who is reply to who? From the text, it appears David is replying to Alice, but from the format, it appears Alice is replying to David. Who does Simpson represent?
Alistairetheblu
David is replying. As for the context the "meme" is basically them implying it's hypocritical. As for the mental gymnastics required to come to that conclusion...idk
youaresolost
I guess! lol I don't know how how anyone is expected to interpret that (Not that you done so wrong by any means) these people cannot fkn meme
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Remember that, to them, people who say "Free Palestine" are "bad people who support terrorism" and ICE is an organization that is "defending the US from illegal immigrants and 'other' terrorist threats".
Now re-interpret the meme with this context and you understand their twisted perspective. It's utterly indefensible when you actually understand the facts but that's not a strong suit of the right-wing fanatics.
youaresolost
Who is they? Here? Is Alice they or David they?
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Alice and the perspective of the one who made the meme by extension.
youaresolost
I don't know who the fascist is in this image. I see a person who is denouncing what seems to be Israel and Ice, that seems to be David. Then you have Alice which is posting a Simpson meme where Simpson is Free Palestine retreating into the bush then he comes out as fuck ice. Make it make sense
Feralkyn
Alice posted the image macro and David responded to it.
youaresolost
I am just going to assume Alice is the fascist here because their meme doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever, from any perspective, and conclude I really don't care to figure out how they intend the meme to be interpreted
TheDoctorCrankenstein
I explained the meme in my comments.
You are correct in assuming that Alice is the fascist.
youaresolost
I see where you told me to the fascists, "free palestine are bad who support terrorism" I knew that. I see where you told me Ice is an organization that is defending hte us from illegal immigrants and other terrorist threats (according to fascism) I get everything you're saying, so far, and knew all that. But when you tell me to re-interpret the meme, I get absolute fkn nothing. The only thing the meme communicates is that free palestine people and fuck ice people are the same people?