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https://people.com/politics/volodymr-zelenskyy-military-outfit-white-house-similar-winston-churchill/
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https://people.com/politics/volodymr-zelenskyy-military-outfit-white-house-similar-winston-churchill/
DontLookBackInAnger
I love how mad they are that the overworked leader of a war-torn nation didn’t wear his finest silks to another nation’s seat of power.
eastend666
I can't compare him to Churchill because he's incomparable.
codenameRadical
Entirely irrelevant. If he had worn a suit and cleaned up more, they'd have said it wasn't real. They were gonna yell either way.
Icantthinkofaname2
But also, fuck Churchill.
leroy666
I have some bad news. He's dead; but, you do you.
trippingthelightfantastic
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
I wish the US had politicians like Zelensky.
crossingdynasty
Unlike the GOP, he has a real job
AnImgurianformerlyknownasfuzzylogic
Hes a man of the people. GOP wouldnt understand that.
SocoFox
He beating up on their idol, Pootan.
Hawkgirl203
GOP wants to rule over the people.
nnnyyyehhhhhhhhh
I feel like people wearing "fuck Biden" shirts can't talk about other people's attire
dudehiemer
Its like the whole tan suit incident, but with less racism and more fascism.
Lew4731
Ha ha...VERY well stated.
SeanBeanJovi
I was going to mention their bullshit complaints about a certain tan suit, but you beat me to it.
MyCatsNameIsPotato
He is a leader. He is wearing clothes. Therefore these are the clothes/uniform of a leader.
demoncatmara
He is a FAR better man than Winston Churchill was
greencrayon
This person gets it.
MadCat221
Are they jealous that their boi Pooty isn't looking so good without a suit to cover up the old fogey body?
cazkey
I hope the US and Ukraine have bilateral military cooperation after everything is done.
BastardMan1977
They are petty just for the sake of being petty. Fuck the GQP
wrxnefx182
They freaked the fuck out over a tan suit, so what did anyone expect ?
buttcreambandit
No. They are doing it because Russia owns them and pro Ukraine stuff is bad for Russia
MarisFreeborn
I mean, it can be both—they're Russian assets and suck-ups, they're petty just like they were about Obama's tan suit—AND more ...
upfr0mhere
Weak pathetic scum afraid of a man in uniform willing to fight to defend his home
theinternetkeepsmealive
Republicans hate him because he's proof that people won't let fascism take hold a second time.
pacmanownsyou
I hate fox as much as anyone but the opinion piece quoted here seems supportive.
FellaWithUmbrella
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-praised-russian-tv-criticized-zelensky-clothes-congress-1769147
Orzufancylad
Bret is the news part of Fox News. The really bad parts are the opinion sections on the network itself.
SisterMidnight
This article is from People Magazine, but the right wing nuts are whining about his clothing::
Ellisd83
their boos mean nothing, we know what makes them cheer.
buttcreambandit
At least it wasn’t a tan suit
charliem
handsome guy
IThoughtThisThought
Having a suit being the only thing men look good/proper in is such a made up thing anyway.
DigYourselfBaby
That's right.
Escapist83
Let's all focus on what he was wearing. That's definitely the most important thing.
leroy666
Churchill’s was called a siren suit, I believe.
SenseiTheDefender
MAGA smeared feces inside the Capitol.
BellsTheorem
He's acting as a military commander not a politician. I had to explain this to a bunch of morons who thought he was being "disrespectful".
leroy666
Zelenskyy has been a master of P.R. since the beginning of this war. I think he was making a point, and succeeded. Slava Ukraini.
Zorklunn
They pick on his clothing because they have nothing else and they're too stupid to invent anything believable.
FlintNorth44
Republicans are fuckin trolls.
AgingApe
Zelensky is in the middle.of the shit. How can he be ready to move in a fucking monkey suit. This dude is my hero
Cthulhuonabike
Zelensky is tenfold the leader that Churchill ever dreamed to be. He's an example to everyone to stand up for yourself and your fellow man
TheCouldHaveBeenKing
lol, no. Zelensky is probably one of the best wartime leaders of our time, but tenfold is a dumb claim, even Churchills equal is debateable.
Cthulhuonabike
Churchill was a great politician, but not a good leader. Eisenhower was a great leader, but not a good politician. Zelensky is both
VinnieJonesDiary
Churchill was a TERRIBLE politician, as evidenced by the UK dumping him the second the war ended.
leroy666
Careful. Zelenskyy may have feet of clay as well. Doesn't negate his virtues, but hero worship is a mug's game.
TheOtherLucas
Everytime I see this man, I gain more respect for him. he is an absolutely fantastic leader. I wish him and his people the very best.
sirava
He is 100% wearing that to make the point that his country is at war. It's a costume to send a message. So is a suit and tie.
buttcreambandit
Of course. And it shows he shows support for his fighters. It portrays him as one of them. Not an elitist sending them to die
buttcreambandit
He’s spent the entire time fighting with them and for them. So in reality it isn’t really a costume. It’s proper attire for the situation
conkles
It is fitting attire for a wartime leader. Lead by example and represent the reality of war and your country.
fmrandom
Well, he IS fighting. Just not with a gun, but he fights for international support for Ukraine, so that they may survive.
MuffinMan5666
He does a hell of a job at it too. Good for him
Targe0
It's also likely far more comfortable to wear than a suit and tie.
BigBraveBrickofMeat
Plus the man deserves to be as comfy as he wants.
017renegade
100% agree. it's the reason old monarchs still show up regularly in their military attire. This habit comes from time when war was constant.
Cognition
Although some monarchs have military education and are formally the supreme warlord as well as head of state, e.g. the Scandinavian states.
r0twhylr
Except he isn't draped in gold tassels and lots of medals. It's not about glory for him - it's about never putting himself above soldiers.
JayEnfield
War was prestigious, and maintaining control of the military was far harder and more important than it sounds.
Margrave9000
You say? https://medium.com/traveling-through-history/only-15-years-of-peace-in-the-history-of-the-united-states-of-america-c479193df79f
Frederf
Ukraine has a sophisticated propaganda machine
Althox00
Every nation has propaganda, doesn't make you more right or more wrong.
JustitiaetFortitudo
True, but the connotations of those words is gonna make people misunderstand you
Frederf
obviously
FIuxuation
Yeah they got invaded by Russia to trick America into buying them weapons. Smh.
Frederf
Huh? Who said that?
macpall
I don’t think you understand what he said
gudkrish1337
Why the fuck is the world fascinated by Churchill? Google bengal famine
DancingDoggo
THANK YOU!
Bovisstercus
Anyone who actually does so should find that Churchill was in no way personably responsible for that event.
leroy666
Mosta these responders seem to have little knowledge of history;, only the comic versions.
gudkrish1337
Can you provide proof please , he starved millions of Indians so that he can bring backup food for soldiers@,not main food just a stockpile
Bovisstercus
He could have prioritized responding to it more, but there was a world war going on and difficult decisions about shipping were made.
Bovisstercus
At one point the USA even supposedly declined (understandably) direct requests from Britain for increased shipping to India at the time.
VinnieJonesDiary
And how about all the horrific (even for the day) racist shit he said? Or pushing to bomb & machine gun protestors in Ireland?
lxix
Churchill believed that Irish protesters were planted. As far as he was concerned these protests were foreign terrorist activities.
VinnieJonesDiary
Bollocks he did! Stop making excuses for him. Were these innocent civilians planted: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920)
Bovisstercus
I'm not going to argue that Churchill wasn't racist, but it sure seems overblown. https://richardlangworth.com/racist-epithets
Bovisstercus
Having said that, he viewed everything through a lens of nations being different "peoples", with different goals, capabilities etc. So yes.
VinnieJonesDiary
And some races were more "higher grade" than others, so yes, racist.
VinnieJonesDiary
"I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that...a higher-grade race has come in and taken their place"
VinnieJonesDiary
Weird there's no mention of that in there, he focuses solely on epithets so he can avoid his supremacist views...
leroy666
Just as if he were an ordinary man with plenty of faults. For all his flaws(and they were many), he stood up to Nazis when no one else did.
VinnieJonesDiary
Literal millions of others did. You gonna praise Stalin? Churchill was a warmongering, racist, white supremacist.
leroy666
No argument, but without his presence, Europe, and perhaps North America, would be very different places today.
VinnieJonesDiary
Nope, some other brit would have lead them, Churchill wasn't magic.
leroy666
Possibly, but it WAS churchill. He and FDR were the right people at the right time.
lxix
Literal millions did not without obligation to Britain & Churchill. Heck the US only got involved because of money really.
VinnieJonesDiary
Who was obligated to Churchill???
leroy666
That's wildly simplistic. He was those things, but under his leadership, Brits stood up to Nazis while muricans were cozying up to the Bund.
VinnieJonesDiary
And without him a different PM would have lead them
Bovisstercus
Lead them straight to a peace settlement with the Nazis, quite likely