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Jun 3, 2021 11:16 AM
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bananafoen
Disney is like Nestlé to me
GreatOdinsTaint
Disney values nothing except money and how public perception influences their ability to make more of it.
JustAnotherLinkInTheChain
Who kissed? That movie was garbage so I barely remember it
Absent
Some random background characters, so they could cut it in foreign release later.
3Davideo
... What same sex kiss???
gnomedeplume
Surely you remember those two memorable characters, female pilot & slightly older female officer who appeared together earlier at some point
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
honesty i forgot about 90% of that movie, kinda trash
promptx
How many foreign films have been censored for US audience fear of boobies
voltekker
That is a false dichotomy, please come back with a better arguement
rongway
I don't think boobies get censored much, just rated higher than PG. Pooty-tangs and schlongs though, those get censored via being rated X.
SomeDetroitGuy
We show films with tits all the time around here.
wyrde
There were many PG rated American movies in the 80s with boobs and even occasional full (back) nudity. Boob removal started in the 90s. ):
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
How many of them openly brag about how forward and progressive they are for showing said boobies and preach about being more like them?
Crustypeanut
I never really understood that. Why do we glorify violence on the regular but not boobies? We need it to be the other way around!
dogestyle
That's because the Puritans left England to make a better England, but with no blackjack nor hookers
Crustypeanut
Luckily we glorify butts pretty heavily so at least there's that.
ReclusiveYeti
Fuck Disney, Disney is asshole.
PoweredByPotato
Rey and Leia?
DrKonrad
"We value diversity... Except in countries where it costs us money"
DigiT00l
Lol, that automated response
Event416
Keep on suckin that little Chinese dick ?
Cynderfall
I say we all start supporting only films with content China (Lesser Taiwan) doesn't like. Just don't watch the Disney pandering crap.
CoarseAndSalty
Swank, I love me some Time Travel movies.
mrsdowneyjr
If it wasn't a big deal then they didn't need to cut it.
Booberham
They were cowards. It should have been Fin and Poe kissing
VanZaiden
I've deleted most of the new trilogy from my memory, so I don't rly remember...or care tbh. It's just pandering anyway.
BountyHunterBobaFett
They did say “value”. As in it has a price. So they got rid of it to keep making money.
CyberSecurityShark
Tegridy Farms.
DangerTrain
"Neolibdisneyadult", sounds like an account just for making marketing tweets for Disney as a "fan".
Fastjack2056
Do we really think @NeoLibDisneyAdult is NOT a troll account?
DankTimez4Eva
That's that YouTuber who hates women and people who are not white. He said women who don't fuck him are lesbians
weaver57
they're using the quarterpounder's picture, but it's not actually him
jasonclymer111
They still have the incest kiss in the older film though.
DocNitro
In-sist, best sist, right?
TrustMeImADog
I can't even find a clip of it. Lots of vids about it being cut...and none show it.
anglarite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvl4ZxUh_c at 3:03
TrustMeImADog
Thank you!
Cruelroullette
As RLM said, Disney is fake progressive, "Passive Progressive", if you will.
Insomnia297
As long as they're not actively in the way anymore.
MrSebi
Disney is corporate progressive. It's only progressive in tokenly appealing to demographics with money.
DarkwingDuc
Disney was legitimately progressive in the 90s. Since then, its worth has increased 30 fold & those international billions are helluva drug.
LoudBirb
At least it's not actively regressive. I mean, obviously we should all demand better than "not actively regressive", but... could be worse.
gtmiller
They congratulated active genocide to appease China, and use the slave labor for knick-knacks.
serenityfast
Oh it's worse. Just look at the giant fuckin' mess around the Mulan remake.
jherazob
Well, Mulan done with help of slave labor...
n0gal
*looks at copyright term extension act* riiiight
LoudBirb
I mean... sure, but I don't see how that has much to do with social progressivity, specifically related to civil rights and representation?
gtmiller
Disney actively is engaged in the industrialization of the genocide of Uighurs in China. You have no clue.
LoudBirb
Actually, that's a good point. I was too focused on the domestic on this side of the convo. I was aware they were ignoring the Uighur...
LoudBirb
And they could definitely be worse about that. Take Hobby Lobby or Chick-fil-a.
n0gal
Ah, like "Song of the South"
gtmiller
Eh, both those pale in comparison as and were done by a handful in the company. Hell, Chick-fil-A does PRIDE events at the franchise level.
AtsaMattaForMe
afatrollofmyown
Talk about a white neo lib disney adult
Ilovetomakestuffup
cringe
Illendor
At least it's not midichlorians?
DGNightwing95
It's heroine.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
WizardCastingShade
who is the second from the left
leodavinci1
What lesbian kiss?
Imalwaysready
Who knows. It was in one of those super forgettable Star Wars films.
AlexSkullUterna
At the end of The Rise of Skywalker:
Ghost0fDawn
https://imgur.com/BRh48dl
Navrodel
They threw is in the background so it could be missed, and was important to nothing. Virtue signaling that's intended to be cut around later
CuppaTeaMate
Blatantly a straight male typing in "yassssss!"
mksu
Which characters?
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
asking the important questions
Ilovetomakestuffup
I read that it was just a short scene with 2 randoms in the end of episode 9
tlamstrike
Ah, explains why I didn't see it. I only saw a bootleg from China rather than give Disney money. Extras make it easy to cut out.
mksu
Oh, OK. I was thinking it was between protagonists and was wondering what weird narrative path got them there from TLJ.
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
Lt Cdr Uhura and Capt Kirk was historic.
feryooday
Wait did I miss something?
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
Just the first interracial kiss on TV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_and_Uhura%27s_kiss
Tezunegari
IIRC they botched every other take to force that version of the scene to be used.
BioGoji1989
Yes, even though Lt. McGivvers kissing Khan happened in Season 01, which was also interracial.
Dagordae
Different racial tiers. Latino was higher than black, interracial relationships weren’t anywhere near as stigmatized.
BioGoji1989
I did not know that.
NotaCPA
not really, it wasn't even a first for North America, or a THE first interracial kiss on tv. 2
JasonThorn
It was a first for North America. The UK had theirs a few years earlier.
NotaCPA
no it wasn't, even in North America
Shift137
If that's the one people remember then it is historic.
NotaCPA
They don't remember it. Star Trek had a really low viewership when originally aired but much higher viewership in syndication. It's 2)
NotaCPA
remembered yes, but not when it was aired...I mean, I'm 37, I remember it...because I saw the re-runs.
Aimlockbelch
Absofuckinglutey for the time!!!!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Well, it did make a lot of people mad. Then again, so did a tit slip at a superbowl show.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Not really. Civil rights activists thought "eh, hardly counts since they were forced to do it." Racists thought the same.
SomeDetroitGuy
That nip slip got us Youtube.
kuosa
Don't anger the Pooh!
RedLetterMediaReactionGifs
lghn4life
What does China have to do with this?
DrKriegersClone
Cutting it from the international releases was probably mostly to pander to China. See South Park's Disney/China episode.
donorkort
Homosexuality isn't illegal in China, though.
kitarakdarcon
While not illegal anymore, its not really accepted by society. From the brief readings I've conducted it seems their still quite a stigma.
donorkort
Well, yeah, there is 'quite a stigma' in a lot of Western countries as well. It is still straight out illegal in some parts of the world.
thesolamnus
theyre pretty racist and homophobic (the government that is). Just check out the posters for Black Panther and SW
Hambonerhandy
In what way is it historic? It's not like it's the first ever lesbian kiss on film.
hattbillies3
Yeah, I watch movies of women doing more than kissing everyday! Pride!
NicoNicoKneecaps
The first time it was ever aired live was the maceys day parade when THE PROM was preforming.
BigRobbo
Plus I missed it first time expecting it to actually get more focus than it did... its 2 seconds in the background...
POGassultraboot
Guess that’s so they could remove it easier.
SinisterBillMurray
Nah I've got those ones on VHS
Idolwild
What was the first “lesbian” kiss on TV? I want to say it was DS9, but not sure.
Durtschi
Apparently it was some law showhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_kiss_episode#:~:text=The%20%22lesbian%20kiss%20episode%22%20is,and%20
Hambonerhandy
Ds9 was the first hot lesbian kiss on tv
thechelonianshelmet
'Girl' 1974 https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/jun/16/bbc-stream-1974-show-girl-alison-steadman-first-lesbian-kiss-uk-television-pride
goflyblind
apparently l.a. law. i had thought it was roseanne or ellen.
SomeDetroitGuy
21 Jump Street in 1990, LA Law in 1991, Picket Fences in 1993, Roseanne in 1994 were all before DS9 in 1995. Not that I just looked it up.
takinghostages
Oh yeah thats right! Rosanne's mum was a lesbian right? Jeez I used to love that show. Cried when it ended, didn't watch the reboot.
nacklemurnig
It’s the first time Disney did it in this particular film. They deserve your praise. Praise them.
Ryanator50
it's like that country that abolished slavery decades after all the other countries already did it.
Zasep
Thats so dumb who would prai- ALL GLORY TO WALT DISNEY
itsahorse
Also I heard Disney have not committed a single mass murder against children. Truly inspirational.
CantStopTheRock
Praise be to the merciful and benevolent Disney! May they buy all media so that all can know their humbleness!
ClumsyLeftistWhoDropsThings
l33t1c4r1u5
They don't deserve praise. They removed it from some of their foreign releases just like they reduced the black guys presence on the poster
l33t1c4r1u5
I'm some foreign markets
DeKetsendeRechter
USA is a foreign market. Did they remove it there?
l33t1c4r1u5
Are you high? The USA isn't a foreign market to Disney
thegregorious
Hello some foreign markets, I’m dad
l33t1c4r1u5
Sell out to make me happy
Sumguy88
They need to stop throwing around "Historic", it was very plainly a pandering scene that lasted for like 1/2 a second.
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DavidBrooker
I believe RLM called it "passive progressive" and now I love that phrase
MOMOnica97
God I've been trying to put it into words for awhile and this is it. Thank you I'm gonna start borrowing this lol
HaveANiceFace
I don't even remember it tbh
vonBoomslang
blink and you miss it background thing
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Utterly worthless, then.
Meloncov
Eh, making a big deal of it is pandering. The kiss itself, though, is just a reasonable background element.
catsandcoke
It was in the background and I wouldn’t have noticed if I hadn’t been told about it.
SlyMrFox
Same with the Nexflix version of Ultron.
anglarite
This is about all their screen time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvl4ZxUh_c
anglarite
Between two people so important to the story I don't even remember seeing them in the same (other) scene any point of the trilogy....
Ihaveafork
But the movie was set "a long time ago", so that would qualify as historic.
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
It's not representation if it's in the fucking background. Period. End of story.
Spidermattman
And it pissed my queer ass off!!
TheCroaker
It wouldve mattered if it was poe and finn, and that was actually set up
Someshithead241
People especially need to stop using it with "firsts" which are not even close to being first
FFKonoko
They didn't say it was first?
Someshithead241
Never claimed that they did.
FFKonoko
You were complaining about people talking about things being firsts, thought maybe they had elsewhere.
fectin
It was the first lesbian kiss in that scene of that specific movie. Checkmate!
TheLunaDiviner
historic also makes it seem like the first ever. Believe me, there are plenty of movies with lesbian kisses in them out there
johnhatten2
do you have any examples? for science
johnhatten2
its a joke i dont need examples ty
GonzoRunner
Irarelypostbutwhenidoitsucks
Blue is the warmest colour. Thank me later.
UsernameNeededPleaseProvide
OmnibusLatinName
Like, a lot... if you search the right categories.
iwantthepinkbook
How many family friendly movies are there with lesbian kisses? Please let me know, because I would love to watch them with my kids.
zfournier16
Yes but disney didnt do it so it doesnt count
LaurenLikesStuff
I think they were using the term historic in a “first we’ve seen onscreen in the Star Wars universe” way, not in a “first ever” way.
TheLunaDiviner
yes, and I'm making a porn joke on the internet for points.
ToastedVanilla
How entirely meaningless.
LaurenLikesStuff
Regardless, it was like a half second of feel-good pandering and the fact that they cut it out for international releases is crap.
OddOod
From my convos with queer friends, this type of stuff is just annoying. Show casual queer relationships, not pandery shit
LaurenLikesStuff
As a queer person, I get ROYALLY pissed off about it. Don’t get me started on the bullshit they tried with LeFou in Beauty and the Beqst.
FartBoxExtract
People will always pull the whole "first strong woman protagonist" shit while simultaneously ignoring and insulting others that came before.
Banatine
Rey is not even a ‘Strong female protagonist’. She is a Mary Sue. Ripley and Sarah Conner were, though.
FartBoxExtract
At this point it feels like everyone is trying to make that "historic" moment to get exposure,, even though it has all been done before.
gggihgg
Always find it odd because two of the biggest franchises growing up (terminator and alien) featured strong female protagonists.
litelbrown
Honestly, don't even remember seeing it
LaurenLikesStuff
It’s in the background, slightly fuzzy, during a sweep of the crowd celebrating before we see Ray, Finn, and Poe hug.
Vryistal
What a huge leap forward for the LGBTQ+ community... /s
litelbrown
So...could have been extras and wasn't even planned?
LaurenLikesStuff
It was very much planned. There was a whole whisper campaign about it.
anglarite
At least one of them had speaking role and was part of the rebel officers during the three movies.
GrouchyOscar
That doesn’t just happen. Productions have to pay for every tiny thing they ask of background. Especially on such a large scale one.
SmellingMistake
Married with Children had a "historic" scene of the first toilet shown on TV.
Harryteeters
Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho had the first flushing toilet in a movie
jennym123
IIRC Hitchcock had to fight for it lol.
BriefausdemGeist
Really? It was that late into the 80s before a toilet was shown?
theshinobi23
I found this: https://onepointpartitions.com/blog/2017/01/30/first-tv-toilets/ ...doesn't say they're THE first, but one of the first.
SmellingMistake
According to that it's the first toilet shown. Leave it to Beaver only showed the tank, and All in the Family only had the flushing sound.
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
We have the master Alfred Hitchcock to thank for fighting so hard to show the first toilet being flushed in a movie.