Cute but none of these techniques are used on a actual worksite. Would take far too much time and need to be done perfectly to work. Much easier to use a proper connector for small cables or a splice kit on larger.
I can’t remember which ones but I saw this a while ago and showed it to my electrician buddy and he said some are dumb af. Take that with some salt though cuz my buddy can also be dumb af.
Connecting cables by twisting the wires is illegal / substandard in my country. For electricity you need to use connectors like Wago. Because if the twist connection opens, you might get sparks or heat due to the resistance / gap. Which is a fire hazard. And since these wago connectors are cheap and easy to use, why should i remember 15 different twist A then B connect C through hole counterclockwise hacks?
A couple of these are unsafe. A few more need the proper tools to tighten the wires so they don't come loose. Or you could just buy the appropriate crimp connector and learn how to use it.
I'm a service technician specializing in mechatronics. I said crimping is fine. Twisted wires are not. They come lose/short out. A lot. My customers often do this shit as a quick fix and they're calling me 3 months later to find out why their machine keeps going down.
Probably some japanese dude again. Doing a splice 1200 years ago, spent 26 years doing one job and since then people decided they want to follow this particular way because of reasons.
This, this, and this. Wire nut or if its smaller wire, solder or crimp connector. Couple wraps with no tension on the elec tape and it’ll be good for 20+ years. And more stuff fails due to poor strain relief than how it is connected.
Have you ever seen a wire or a cable seen broken at the very same position the solder stops? I can understand, that there are use-cases, where you don't have to worry about those problems. But it's not like this is always advisable. Especially cables don't really like soldering, when they have a tendency to be moved.
No, because I wrap the wires together like they are in the video and then apply solder. They don't break and they have a better connection. I also said the cables shouldn't be soldered.
In 30 years of working on vehicles, no, I never have seen a wire fail right at the solder joint. I've seen a few burned due to electrical tape falling off, though, and a lot more with random fuse blows or speakers cutting out when you turn a corner due to the same. Crimp and heat shrink is best, if you have the perfect crimp. Solder and heat shrink if you don't. Electrical tape in automotive is only fair for bundling or chafe protection.
Also, several years working on computers, home audio, and hospital medical equipment including x-ray machines and heart bypass machines. Or restoring 70 and 80 year old tvs and radios. Never seen a stranded wire fail at the solder joint.
ya, no shit.. my grandfather was a professional electrician throughout his life.. When I was a kiddo basically I was his human flashlight.. But he was very liberal with the use of electrical tape on wires
I was taught to wrap devices in it to cover the terminals before shoving em back in the box. We go thru tape so fast that the boss just started buying it in bulk.
It's worth buying in bulk for home use too, because a sleeve or it is $10, and spending an hour looking for the one roll you had costs you more than that in time.
I am and fuck this clip! Just use a wirenut or wago anything fucking normal that you can buy at Platt, CED, Rexel, Northcoast or even fucking HomeDepot! For fucks sake!
Wirenut is a little thingy that you put stripped wires in and twist, and the connection made is super secure and legal in all 50 states. It takes less time and is cheap, like borscht.
You're allowed to work on your own house, as long as you get the relevant permits/inspection. If you're just adding new outlets or lights, it's pretty simple
Yeahhh, as a sparky, this is not a great idea. Wire nuts are used so that if there is an accident, or someone tugs on a wire, your splices won't come flying apart.
Because people think they're hot shit because they can fuck their way through hobby wiring, then become hot shit when they try to 'fix' the wiring in their house and it catches fire
Really depends on what you're doing and where. Wagos and solid copper wire are terrrrible on a boat, for example. There you want stranded wire and adhesive-lined heat-shrink crimp connectors.
I think it more depends on the usecase, american here, and I use wago's for work literally everyday, and also marrets as well. They have different pros and cons just for individual use cases.
Marrets are for hack jobs. Use a fucking wago please. Soldering is for machines or when you don't have other options like on a board. This issue with soldering is it's inconsistent and takes time (by hand).
There's actually a very strong argument for crimping instead of soldering. Marrets and wagos don't count obviously, but I was surprised when I read up on it. I always assumed soldering gave the best connection long term.
I learned low voltage electrical under a retired US Army mechanic that built saltwater racing boats. Every joined wire was twisted like 2b or 4 in that video, soldered, and then heat shrink tubing. I don't know what you read, but as far as reliability, signal noise, and corrosion resistance, I don't think crimps can win over solder.
TheFeralDog
Or just use wire terminals that are designed for connections of all types
Sandproblems
Where is the solder?
THEYARDGOAT
I do alot of large cable like the last one and that's fucking genius it's beats calling it a piece of shit til it fits
AnimalRescueGuy
Instructions unclear. Repeatedly electrocuted self.
CaptRandom1290
At a certain point it's no longer "unclear instructions," it's just a kink
Mydogatemycomments
NonFungibleUsername
Branspankingnew
Cute but none of these techniques are used on a actual worksite. Would take far too much time and need to be done perfectly to work. Much easier to use a proper connector for small cables or a splice kit on larger.
thatwoodguy
Still needs to be soldered five out of 10
Tomigami
Engineer sex is weird
bassaro
It's not weird, it's THOROUGH YET EFFICIENT.
NonstopRampage
Huh. That reminds me. Whatever happened to that crazy Italian doctor that was gonna cut off a dudes head and put it on another body?
bipolarmom83
MeodwyDoody
I can’t remember which ones but I saw this a while ago and showed it to my electrician buddy and he said some are dumb af. Take that with some salt though cuz my buddy can also be dumb af.
HPCmonkey
To be fair, a lot of those are data cable splices. You would never use a lot of these on high voltage electrical
C141Clay
I always do it twice twice, once without the heat shrink tubing in the loop, then again after cursing and pulling it all back apart.
Freestila
Connecting cables by twisting the wires is illegal / substandard in my country. For electricity you need to use connectors like Wago. Because if the twist connection opens, you might get sparks or heat due to the resistance / gap. Which is a fire hazard. And since these wago connectors are cheap and easy to use, why should i remember 15 different twist A then B connect C through hole counterclockwise hacks?
whatsisname
These are all fucking terrible.
Mr21782Man
A couple of these are unsafe. A few more need the proper tools to tighten the wires so they don't come loose. Or you could just buy the appropriate crimp connector and learn how to use it.
DecentUsernameUnavailable
Just get some Wago 221s and skip all of this crap. Time is money & electrocution / fire / shorts are bad.
brianbrian4566
CaptKlaws
So much fire hazard in this!
ArchiBish
ICanChangeMyUserNameWheneverIWant
Slower ......
Relikar
A LOT of these are illegal. Twisting them together isn't enough. Need to be soldered or crimped.
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
Only if you were stupid enough to use them for mains wiring or somesuch where they are not meant to be used.
Relikar
These literally shouldn't be used anywhere.
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
What's the problem crimping a ferrule or twisting wires together like that for low voltage stuff? Works just fine.
Relikar
I'm a service technician specializing in mechatronics. I said crimping is fine. Twisted wires are not. They come lose/short out. A lot. My customers often do this shit as a quick fix and they're calling me 3 months later to find out why their machine keeps going down.
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
You never said that.
AustinJolly
I do now
perlninja
Or just grab your handy dandy box of Wago connectors and go to town with those.
afnoot42
Wtf is this 😬
4sambucas
idno, but notice that the wires are turning, while being rolled up
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
Probably some japanese dude again. Doing a splice 1200 years ago, spent 26 years doing one job and since then people decided they want to follow this particular way because of reasons.
vakler
Sometimes. But I just use the crimper tool and these guys.
AThawedIguana
For a more permanent splice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24FjjIVpk9U&ab_channel=48381860
Armouredfalcon
yup. proper crimp joiners and be done with it. only one of those joins shown in the video would clear any sort of standard in my country.
hjf2011
those are trash if you're splicing stranded with single wire. wago 4 lyfe
The701
Wago 221.
sniggly5212
Stolen and will use this in my work group chat. I'm an electrician and we fight about wagos vs wire nuts a lot. Team wago!
vakler
I only use them when working on my cars, they haven't failed me in 15+ years so far! (:
GGGenom
Automotive is no place for wire nuts. Crimp everything. Don't be a hack.
vakler
I did mention the crimper tool! Thanks!
HandsomePenguin
You dont crimp wire nuts though...
TK421isAFK
Only if you don't know how to splice solid and stranded wire correctly with a wire nut. They work fine if you leave the stranded wire 1/2
TK421isAFK
longer, and pre-twist the conductors. Yes, I know - Wagos are easier, but they're also a lot newer and haven't gone through a lot of the 2/3
TK421isAFK
required testing in the US yet. We're getting there. 3/3
The701
What else do they have to have done? Europe's already fine with them, and they're UL-Listed for US/Canada.
Miller16of16
This, this, and this. Wire nut or if its smaller wire, solder or crimp connector. Couple wraps with no tension on the elec tape and it’ll be good for 20+ years. And more stuff fails due to poor strain relief than how it is connected.
aShogunNamedMarcus
Is there a problem with ein der kable?
elijajaja
The story is ludicrous.
QuackWok
"You can imagine where it goes from here....." "He fixes the cable?"
CanadaDryGingerMale
Don’t be fatuous Jeffrey
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
That's a beaver picture, isn't it?
robmdun
That's why they sent me, I am an expert
QueefMalone
Nice reference.
treed240z
I find your lack of solder disturbing.
alt86er
Actually, a lot of these _should_ not be soldered.
treed240z
All of the wires should be soldered. The cables no. But seeing as they're mostly wires, 100% of the wires should be soldered.
alt86er
Have you ever seen a wire or a cable seen broken at the very same position the solder stops? I can understand, that there are use-cases, where you don't have to worry about those problems. But it's not like this is always advisable. Especially cables don't really like soldering, when they have a tendency to be moved.
treed240z
No, because I wrap the wires together like they are in the video and then apply solder. They don't break and they have a better connection. I also said the cables shouldn't be soldered.
alt86er
Agreed. =)
Richter12x2
In 30 years of working on vehicles, no, I never have seen a wire fail right at the solder joint. I've seen a few burned due to electrical tape falling off, though, and a lot more with random fuse blows or speakers cutting out when you turn a corner due to the same. Crimp and heat shrink is best, if you have the perfect crimp. Solder and heat shrink if you don't. Electrical tape in automotive is only fair for bundling or chafe protection.
alt86er
Then let me tell you: I do. I've seen this multiple times, in different situations.
Richter12x2
Also, several years working on computers, home audio, and hospital medical equipment including x-ray machines and heart bypass machines. Or restoring 70 and 80 year old tvs and radios. Never seen a stranded wire fail at the solder joint.
Arcygenical
Nowhere near enough load-bearing electrical tape.
Richter12x2
I'm thinking you're meant to still use solder or crimp after.
jonReremy9669
if they dont find you handsome, atleast they'll find you handy! (insert electrical tape, aka the black tape)
phreakcore
ya, no shit.. my grandfather was a professional electrician throughout his life.. When I was a kiddo basically I was his human flashlight.. But he was very liberal with the use of electrical tape on wires
lrateyourrig
Electrical tapenis cheap and not-enough-electrical tape is fucking expensive. If not money then time.
nesurame
I was taught to wrap devices in it to cover the terminals before shoving em back in the box. We go thru tape so fast that the boss just started buying it in bulk.
HPCmonkey
I prefer kapton tape for this, myself.
Richter12x2
It's worth buying in bulk for home use too, because a sleeve or it is $10, and spending an hour looking for the one roll you had costs you more than that in time.
SpaceWeatherMan
I don’t… cause I’m no electrician. Shocking relegation I know.
AnotherFailedAttemptAtHumor
I am. We mainly just use wire nuts for most stuff, unless the wires get big and spicy.
SilkStockingFullOfShit
Revelation? or were you an electrician previously.
idiotsonfire
That's rather illuminating.
MeodwyDoody
Yeah duh, you’re the space weather man not the space electrical man.
whatbuttondoipush
I am and fuck this clip! Just use a wirenut or wago anything fucking normal that you can buy at Platt, CED, Rexel, Northcoast or even fucking HomeDepot! For fucks sake!
DrDred
I have no idea what you just said. It made me think of this. https://youtu.be/RXJKdh1KZ0w
whatbuttondoipush
Wirenut is a little thingy that you put stripped wires in and twist, and the connection made is super secure and legal in all 50 states. It takes less time and is cheap, like borscht.
badmudblood
Another sparky here. Nuts, wagos, and pushes are also EASIER and FASTER than most of these. Let alone safer and compliant
spicetothefoo
No self respecting electrician would use these connections anyway. There needs to be a mechanical connection to secure 2 conductors
JackHL01
not being an electrician isn't a reason for way too many people!
TK421isAFK
Oh fuck, this. We see far too many of them (or their work) on /r/electricians. People seem hell-bent on burning their homes down.
SpaceWeatherMan
Well i hope they stay grounded in their expectations.
ElderLurkerInNeedOfaCane
Sparked my attention that I need to stay alert tbh
BrdCdn
I know that kind of work always gets me amped up.
Baron29
You're allowed to work on your own house, as long as you get the relevant permits/inspection. If you're just adding new outlets or lights, it's pretty simple
Kingsdotter
In some countries.
MarkySpaceMagnet
Getting permits mean inspections, and licensed people doing the work
Baron29
Not in Ontario...when I finished the basement in my old house I bought a permit, did all the wiring, and passed inspection. All legal.
Baron29
I wouldn't be allowed to do work in anyone else's house, but for your own house you don't need to be licensed.
0ldGregg
Check the regulations for your relevant country. They are not the same.
G0MeatCube
Nah it works fuck it
RhymingEverything
Yeahhh, as a sparky, this is not a great idea. Wire nuts are used so that if there is an accident, or someone tugs on a wire, your splices won't come flying apart.
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
And the rest of the civilized world just uses Wago.
VIguy15
Where we’re going we don’t need regulations
naught101
If you're doing hobbyist shit, who cares? If you're doing electrical work, you should be trained and licenced anyway
TheRicM
Many hobbies require compliance with regulations. I can imagine wiring is one of them. Another one is flying drones, many need a permit etc.
paintbullits
Plenty of regs when I rebuilt my motorcycle. About the exhaust and lighting. 0 on how it has to be wired
TheRicM
Maybe house wiring would be different
Kehy
Because people think they're hot shit because they can fuck their way through hobby wiring, then become hot shit when they try to 'fix' the wiring in their house and it catches fire
TheRicM
Instructions unclear; checked regulations for irrelevant country
jonReremy9669
is this docking?
TheRustySheriff
Spoil sport....
Kamchatkah
ImShocked
What is this from
FloodingWaters
Show called Found Boy
Gofdunk
Shitty show, this gif is the reason I didn't want to hear it and Iznek randomly does disappoint
Kamchatkah
Props on the commitment, using Iznek.
ImShocked
What is this from
RentedRedux
Show called Lost Girl.
SirBonSama
Always seen this gif, but never knew where it came from until now. Thanks.
Thorinori
Good show, this gif is the reason I wanted to watch it and Kenzi definitely doesn't disappoint
ButtProblems
This always bothered the fuck out of me. There are three ticks. THREE TICKS. NOT TWO. THREE.
DickSamurai
There's 16 ticks. TICK tick tick tick tick tick tick tick TICK tick tick tick tick tick tick tick BOOM BOOM 🚂🚂🚂
ourari
Did someone say Tick?
bassaro
The contractor cut one out to save on material costs.
Wor3q
When doing electrical work, you wouldn't bother with any of that and just grab a Wago.
Kamikazipigeon
Came to look for this comment. Wago is standard in Germany.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Really depends on what you're doing and where. Wagos and solid copper wire are terrrrible on a boat, for example. There you want stranded wire and adhesive-lined heat-shrink crimp connectors.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
they're not available everywhere and take significant space
SilverFish0
Having never used a wago until a few years ago I have to say they are very useful not sure they aren't as popular in the US yet
toewsy
The company I work for exclusively uses wagos, the amount of time saved troubleshooting is worth it
SilverFish0
I can totally see that. Someone else was saying they aren't code in the US not sure if that's even true.
toewsy
Heated debate of wagos vs marrets incoming..
paintbullits
Should be interesting. Never heard of a wago unless it's refreshing to a dog's tail. I'm assuming that wouldn't meet electrical code
TheMayo16
Ive seen the stress tests, wago's work perfectly as intended
AdditionalPixels
There's no debate. Wago. :)
Cutwail
Wago are based af
Raeilgunne
US industrial mechanic, wagos unless there's a dedicated terminal block available. Half those are wago brand anyways.
ATLandNerdy
marrets for americans, wagos for europeans, and then there's me, swearing at both of them. FFS if it's not soldered it's not connected.
Kehy
Soldered connections aren't allowed as a primary connecting means for most of my stuff. Wire nuts and wagos are fine
ATLandNerdy
What is your stuff?
toewsy
Welp I'm Canadian lol
boatere14
I think it more depends on the usecase, american here, and I use wago's for work literally everyday, and also marrets as well. They have different pros and cons just for individual use cases.
Cheesynipnop
Marrets are for hack jobs. Use a fucking wago please. Soldering is for machines or when you don't have other options like on a board. This issue with soldering is it's inconsistent and takes time (by hand).
ATLandNerdy
How is it inconsistent? It's not coming apart.
ChaosThe0ry
There's actually a very strong argument for crimping instead of soldering. Marrets and wagos don't count obviously, but I was surprised when I read up on it. I always assumed soldering gave the best connection long term.
metalmario667
I'm on the other side of this- I can't tell you how many shoddy crimps I've had to replace.
ATLandNerdy
I learned low voltage electrical under a retired US Army mechanic that built saltwater racing boats. Every joined wire was twisted like 2b or 4 in that video, soldered, and then heat shrink tubing. I don't know what you read, but as far as reliability, signal noise, and corrosion resistance, I don't think crimps can win over solder.