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#politics #wtf #seriously_though_wtf
Jul 5, 2022 10:34 PM
mfrybeasley
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#politics #wtf #seriously_though_wtf
GojiraFury
johnvilnis
Well that unarmed black man was a threat to all those officers while the armed white killer wasn’t.
mijitdragun
Canada as well! Man shot at police officers and killed 2, taken in custody. Police do a wellness check on a Native Lady, she's shot 5 times.
youcanifIcan
https://boingboing.net/2022/07/04/watch-police-very-politely-arrest-illinois-mass-shooter-do-me-a-favor-get-down-on-your-knees.html
youcanifIcan
Cop Actually requested killer to "do him a favor"
zanaria
Anyone know if the guy who killed 3 cops was white? Cause he was taken alive as well...
Daywalker27
Ever wonder what happens when you’re black and caught jaywalking in America… https://youtu.be/0L6oA8vIfmw
DeepMemeConversations
A difficult watch. So sad.
Winstitutionalized
That shot at Jayland for 7 seconds.
AnythingMuchShorter
They claimed he might have fired a shot at them and had an unloaded gun in the car, but even if true, 60 hits while he was running away?
AnythingMuchShorter
They must have been shooting him for quite some time after he was down and non-responsive.
TragicShenanigans
iirc it was something like 13 cops on the scene, all of them responding to him at the same time, and all the 90ish rounds happened within 7s
Navrodel
White murderers caught red handed are more willing to comply with cops without fear for their lives than black "suspects." Wonder why.
bazzaretta
To say that both suspects acted the same during traffic stop is very misleading.
Deekermanns
To suggest that both crimes warrant an identical response is very misleading.
TyrannusEquus
Being truthful doesn't bring in upvotes
cranialbomber
Well they didn't HAVE to light him up. It was more of a discretionary kind of thing.
lawideas
Yeah that black kid shot at police so... they shot back.
MedicSailor
60 hits is a lot and probably unjustified but let's not call the guy who sped away from cops and shot at them while driving unarmed.
MedicSailor
Guy shoots at you out his window while driving and then bails on foot, are you gonna chase him and assume he's unarmed now?
MedicSailor
In the confusion of multiple cops chasing him even if1 did see him drop the gun at the car, the others won't know, plus he could have more
MedicSailor
Again 60 shots does seem excessive, but lethal force overall seems justified because again, he shot at and therefore tried to kill them.
DaffydeDick
I want to see the report which says his fingerprints were on the gun found in his car. If there's no prints the gun was planted.
sleix
Sad, but true. And this is why I look at the GOP with such disgust, because they want to expand on this type of bullshit.
Thorketil
They DO expand on this type of bullshit.
sleix
Corrected, you're right.
Mindshard
A white Republican who went into a Democrat area with one of the highest Jewish populations in the country on a killing spree. Say it again.
portraitsforfriends
I would have surely shot him on sight
beggingyourmajestyspardon
Every police department responsible for the death of a community member should have their pensions pay the civil suit
Beezlebubble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0 this has body cam footage - he wasn't unarmed, and he had a ski mask on. He also shot first.
AreWeGladiatorsOrAreWeBitches
The police chief said he was unarmed………. So did the police lie?
Beezlebubble
Shot at the police, then left the weapon in the car - the pursuing officers wouldn't know he was unarmed - just that he had fired during
Beezlebubble
the vehicle chase. On foot, yes, he was unarmed. The officers would not know that - and even still, if you watch the video, they attempted
Beezlebubble
to use tasers before using live rounds.
Muszkatela
thank you. While it's still terrifying to learn he got shot 60 times, acting like he was an innocent person won't help the cause.
Lulabel73
I’m not American, I get that 60 rounds is ridiculous but didn’t he jump out of a moving car with a ski mask on? What was he doing?
EADimgur
He shot at cops, led a chase, had a ski-mask on, and ran on foot. Then he stopped and turned suddenly. The police in the US are a true 1/2
EADimgur
terror to black and Hispanic communities, but sometimes it really is the perps fault. 2/2
Lulabel73
I didn’t know he had a gun, that makes a bit more sense. Complicated issues though.
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
60 is still a bit ridiculous. If you missed the guy what did those stray bullets hit? I'm going to get downvoted but that's scarey to me
Lulabel73
I said that it was ridiculous in my first comment. 10 would be too much.
Euchale
It´s a police thing where they are supposed to empty the entire magazine/clip of their gun. You´ll have to ask somebody else why.
TyrannusEquus
One surrendered, one did not.
Johannason
"Just comply and you'll be fine!" has, historically, not worked out well for non-whites.
elijahfox4
They shoot a lot of people of different colors, but the media only reports certain stories that fit a narrative. If you didn't know that
elijahfox4
That's probably because you don't take the time to do your own research and just watch MSM. They've also killed unarmed wyte ppl the same
elijahfox4
Way they killed George Floyd. Who is Tony Timpa for 800 Alex
quiteawesome
When Police in the US shoot people they shoot to kill because City can be sued by suspect if they just shoot them in the leg its a sad state
DamnedIfYouDo
"without incident"??? Wasn't the shooting the incident?
KenjiHimura
Pretty much.
AlabasterSexington
HailHailFreedonia
Gonna be honest, I didn't really understand this when it came out. Boy, has America clarified it for me since then
JELLYSSB
I was the same way. I'm late to the party but I'm here to party hard.
FloodingWaters
When he says "...a celly. That's a tool" he means a way to show everyone how it really is.
Donku83
It's always been like this. Just more people are hearing about it now with social media. It's been a huge topic in black media for ages
HailHailFreedonia
That's another lesson: I may be learning now, but it's very old news for many, many ppl, and not their responsibility to teach me
AlabasterSexington
bobgunrunnersmith
In all fairness, the shooter was a fellow dues paying Proudboys member. /s
K1d1caru5
Apparently people don’t like sarcasm.
magicalmysterytour
why don't you STFU and mind your business
magicalmysterytour
*/s
K1d1caru5
Forgot the /s
chickensareawesome
spicepoet
I get what you're saying, and there are serious race issues in the USA. In these cases: Different states, Different takes.
EADimgur
You forgot where the left shot at cops and the right was literally an "alleged shooter" long after the initial shooting took place
thiswillonlyhurtabit
The "unarmed black man" shot at officers during the car chase, he had a hand gun and was wearing a ski mask
thesmelge
"bUt ThEy WeRe ScArEd". Fuck off with justifying it. The police shouldn't be killing people. This is not a difficult concept.
thesmelge
More to the fucking point, if they have to use a firearm, why the fuck does it take over 60 shots? That's a fucking execution.
ratfaceddog
If you believe the police. Which is another way of saying “if you’re a goddamned moron.”
covideokilledtheradiostar
OK
thiswillonlyhurtabit
He also ran from the cops and did not surrender or comply to any commands
bazzaretta
It's pointless to argue here. Imgur has become the left version of QAnon. Left of center moderates are right wing to them. I lost hope.
CraftyGiant
Democrats are right of center. Just admit you're GOP.
bazzaretta
You just proved my point.
CraftyGiant
Its cute you think that.
ScottPerri
Um, running from the police is not a crime where you get executed by firing squad on the spot.
NoNameFred
*gestures at all the unarmed black people shot by cops after surrendering & complying over past 12 months* He kinda had good reason not to?
LeifTheUnlucky
And that's in any way a defense of killing someone who's unarmed and running away?
HelpfulJackal
Don't speak reason to them, they just blindly hate even after the body cams.
CantStopTheRock
He allegedly fired at the police. The police say they found a gun in his car but was unarmed when he fled.
Beezlebubble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0 Video from body cam shows he did fire - they have to assume he still has the weapon. Also
Beezlebubble
Body cams show that tasers were used before live rounds were fired. When officers fire, generally one shoots, then everyone does almost as
Beezlebubble
a "sympathetic" instinct reaction - and most of the time they empty their mags - hence why 90 rounds were fired. (this is not a
Beezlebubble
justification but an explanation - it takes extreme training in live fire scenarios to rid that reaction out of a person. often times when
funtimes72
It's not alleged. You can both hear the gun shot in the body cam footage from the chase, and it was caught on a camera overlooking the road.
funtimes72
I like the downvotes for a factual comment regarding the chase. Never ceases to amuse me how offended by facts certain people are.
CantStopTheRock
It is alleged until the investigation is complete. I will say however the evidence certainly points to this being the case.
covideokilledtheradiostar
OK
CantStopTheRock
Regardless, cops are not executioners. They should not have carte blanche to kill a man for refusing to comply. Especially in America...
CantStopTheRock
Where there is a clear and present danger to black men in the way police handle situations like this.
funtimes72
There's that danger for anyone who shoots at, then runs from cops, and makes a motion like they're pulling a gun. Race is irrelevant to that
funtimes72
There's unquestionably issues with racism in policing in this country. This case however is not an example of it.
MentlegenValentine
I'm not deffending the cops on this but he didn't refuse to comply. The 8 cops that shot said he turned around and grabberd at his waist
MentlegenValentine
until the threat is done
MentlegenValentine
Implying he was going to try and grab a gun at his waist. Was it excessive? Yes. But they don't shoot 3 bullets stop and look they shoot
redzero700
curious, I truly dont know and am NOT trying to justify 60 rounds ( i thought it was 90?) but did the highland park shooter surrender?
DaierMune
90 rounds fired, 60 actually hit. 66% accuracy!
drakesyn
The desire is not that cops should put 60 holes in the spree shooter, but that we should *not* put 60 holes in the minority.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
Said a round was discharged in W’s car, & unloaded gun was found. He had no weapon when shot. The ole he went for a ‘gun’ in his waist arg
culinarydream7224
Surrendering sounds like a much better option when cops aren't famous for shooting people who look like you for no reason
psmith00
they've shot coloured people in the process of trying to surrender. no quarter given.
culinarydream7224
Shooting the guy laying face down next to the autistic kid sitting cross legged was the "Sandy Hook" moment for me
Kassimila
Yes he did, shocking what happens when you just surrender huh?
cptcr
Jayland Walker pulled over and something caused him to run from the cop. running doesn't justify deadly force.
1metalnation
He ran because he had fired a shot at the police from the car during the chase. He left the gun in the car when he exited to run on foot
cptcr
so you think the shooting was justified?
1metalnation
Absolutely not, but it's not surprising either. Shoot at the crazy people with guns and they will absolutely shoot even if you ditch the gun
Ambipolar
(I think they initially said 90 fired and 60 hit, but might have been changed now)
PerrinAybara564
90 fired, 60 wounds, unconfirmed currently how many wounds are entry and how many are exit.
redzero700
30 stray bullets that could have hit innocent people/damaged property? great
loedout
What I read, when it first happened, was that at least 60 shots hit him, but it was too difficult to get an accurate count.
Ambipolar
Yea, well, I would expect it's almost impossible to count hits in human body after a certain number.. but it only takes one.
Beezlebubble
I'm not generally the biggest fan of youtube breakdowns but... this uses police body cam footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0
FuzzyWolfy329
Donut is not a great person to look to for unbiased reviews. He’s a swell guy but will justify just about anything police do in his videos.
Beezlebubble
Yeah, the main reason I posted it is he has a compilation of the footages put together.
jayman0123
There's a "I'm a black man who doesn't believe police are targeting me" guy in the.comments. aka a burner account
Beezlebubble
The guy wasn't unarmed, had a ski mask, etc.
MerkinSuit
A ski mask is not a weapon in any way, WTF!?
Beezlebubble
I left the gun out in my comment, not sure how I did that
culinarydream7224
He was unarmed. There was an unloaded gun in his car
Beezlebubble
He had shot twice at police - they have to assume he's still armed at that point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0
Beezlebubble
video contains body cam footage during the chase. They don't know he dropped the weapon in the car or that it's no longer loaded.
culinarydream7224
So far you've lied about him not being unarmed and the number of shots fired, what other bullshit are you gonna spread?
culinarydream7224
There was a single gunshot mid pursuit, but after he stopped and ran the cops felt it was safe to pursue until they decided "fuck it"
lombardothethird
They pulled him over, surrounded him, told him to get out of the car with his hands up, he did. That was about it
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Mindshard
I've seen TONS of videos of police executing people who complied, or before they could. You're full of shit.
becauseurwrong
Sometimes compliance too. All the black men on video just standing there calmly with hands up and getting shot anyway.
jayman0123
Just remember a black shooter would not have been Allowed to exit their vehicle they would have been struck and pulled through the window 1/
jayman0123
Then beaten for "resisting"
IusallypoopwhileImonhere
Probably. I’m remembering the time they arrested a innocent man. Beat him in custody. Released him but charged him with vandalism because he
IusallypoopwhileImonhere
Bled on the officers uniform
lucindamarie18
Police rumored to say " do me a favor " when telling him to get out of his vehicle when stopped.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Can we hope for a life sentence? That’s uncomfortable? No parlor?!
along101802365
Depending on who he killed he may be given life, be in solitary, or dead. If he killed any kids or women probably the the later 2.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Parole** I should spell check things
stlouiscardinalsfan7
That would be worse than death for me. Which is what he deserves if what is said is true.
swedeonamoose
life with no chance of getting out is by far the worst thing one can get, so ye its the perfect sentence.
muchosnuggles
Illinois resident here, we do not have a death penalty but he will most likely rot with multiple life sentences.
ThePunnyGuy
I don't think prison has a parlor, so I can safely say yes to that.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Yes, I just realized I fat fingered the wrong word
Armyguy8382
The article I read said he had shot at police during the car chase and they claim it looked like he was reaching for a gun. Doesn't justify>
hunterkiller725
i think the comment your replying to is for the highland park shooter not the black kid getting shot.
EyeSpyABreathtakingPerson
That was the Akron story. The highland park one was incident free I thought. It's nuts that worrying about mixing up shootings is a thing.
lombardothethird
I only saw a video of the arrest that where his car was already stopped. I couldn’t say if something happened in the chase. Back to the webs
Armyguy8382
I bet they lost the videos of the car chase.
lombardothethird
I’m finding absolutely nothing. Sorry my internet skills have failed everyone
Armyguy8382
Firing 90 rounds but if true then assuming he was armed was the way to go. They found the gun in the car after killing him.
LeifTheUnlucky
Where on the use-of-force continuum does "suspect running away unarmed with the gun left in the car" fall?
Armyguy8382
I doubt the cops bothered to check the car before they all gave chase. They are way to happy to spend $1,000 in ammo
likehelly
the unloaded gun with no magazine near it
NoNameFred
Even if he was armed 90 rounds is excessive. Especially when that means "continuing to fire when he's lying on the floor, hands behind head"
Fairemont
Gotta use up that police budget somehow./darkhumortime
mrthewhitee
The article I raid said police confirmed he was unarmed.
Armyguy8382
When he was shot. The article I saw the police claimed they were shot at before he pulled over and ran from the car.
IusallypoopwhileImonhere
They shot him 60 times then cuffed him. Although we don’t know yet whether he was cuffed before being shot. Ether way wow
RubyPorto
When he was shot is the only time that matters. Also, the police lie *constantly* so their claims are... suspect.