DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
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Aug 6, 2024 7:42 PM
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
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LaszloCravensworth
Lots of trashy people out there, nice work Uber driver!
Bunnytreegames
Ok but seriously, you should tip the fuck out of your driver if you make a request like this.
glovelyday
retrostone21
My son already does things like me, and he is just ten months old. They are watching. And fuck that guy.
Jawesome19
While I do not doubt in anyway situations like this occur all the time, but this sounds fake as hell. Remember guys, I'm a hero and here is why is what this sounds like
RenaissanceFaireMan
Of course this is fake as hell. A woman drives her car to the fair, then tries to leave so she calls an Uber...instead of just getting in her car to leave. And then no crime happened.
Detacheddavid
The sad truth: some men respect more an invisible boyfriend than a woman in front of them.
SnakuPlisskin
The sadder truth: society has taught us to be this way. The whole "hard to get" thing was a cultural norm for a very long time with seemingly nobody realizing how fucked up the whole thing was.
pritolus
Yep. The best example is "you shouldn't get sterilized in case your future husband wants kids." They make up an imaginary man and makes his imaginary wishes more important than the actual woman in front of them, making a decision about her own body.
RuKosopaty
And that why so many women choose to be stuck in a forest with a freaking bear than "a random man". You can have wold full of wonderful people like this driver, but it takes just one man that doesn't take "no" for an answer to go with more predicable danger of a bear.
TBRichard
Attention All Uber and Lyft drivers: Continue to do your jobs in such a way that a woman in distress trusts you enough to help her out of situation like this one.
SirBobby98121
Yeah, yeah - blah blah : where'd you go eat ?
Yellowchopsticks
That guy was such a creep the girl would rather trust a literal stranger over the internet rather than ride with him.
RenaissanceFaireMan
She's rather lie about not having her car keys (when she had them) to a guy that asked if he could help, then take an Uber so she'd have to come back for her car?
SnakuPlisskin
Are you really this clueless? Have you never actually talked to any women? You don't know the shit they go through and why they're so terrified of "a guy that asked if he could help." Maybe 90% of nice guys are actually nice and genuinely only want to help. So there's only a 1 in 10 chance of being raped and/or brutally murdered. Maybe it's only 1 in 20. Are those really odds you'd want to play?
SeasonCat
royrogersdoublerbarburger
I am #TeamVelma always
Hotjoe1991
Zoinks š
jlist
Oh, itās a meme I made! I love seeing them get back into the wild
SeasonCat
MurasakiArt55
What a cringe picture
4etherling
I love that the theme of this post is respecting women, then this image of a woman is hyper sexualized and a perversion of the actual character for the sexual indulgence of men and upvoted highly, then you find it cringe and you're downvoted by the same mob that respects women but can't help but over sexualize them in response to the post of respecting them.
MurasakiArt55
Exactly. Look at all the incels downvoting my post.
DarkBusterBaron
I think you highly overestimate how much the average user pays attention to a random meme beyond a quick glance.
SmokeyIsTheBandit
Not all heroes people... It's the little things like this that make it hard to be a cynic
ChimkenDumplin
#4 Problem is, the sort who need to hear this already know sons are watching and they think their example is proper. Women are to be cornered, taken, had as prize and meat...They know exactly the role they're modeling and it's 'hunter'.
JonWallace1985
Yeah, I had a girl ask my wife and I if she could sit down and act like I was her boyfriend for a few minutes at the mall. She never told us what was happening, but we assume it was something like that wtf is wrong with some men?
RenaissanceFaireMan
And then the men did nothing and nothing happened.
SnakuPlisskin
Good point. She took steps to make sure the creep couldn't creep on her and then he didn't creep on her. Wait, did I say "good" point?
CedricDur
Is there a point to this? If nothing happened then great, it was not needed or the situation was defused because she did what she did. Either way the woman lost nothing, the couple lost nothing, and whomever was that triggered that situation also lost nothing since they were not pointed or accused (in case, as you say, it really was just misread vibes).
delsiv
The driver did good. But it shouldn't be the driver's role to do good.
SnakuPlisskin
It's everyone's role to do good.
HeadTurdL
Not everyone can be trained to be good (the pushy dude). It's nice that other people will step up.
notsureofanything
Iām a stocky muscle lady that has frequent got the āhelp meā eyes from other women at the bar and all of a sudden long lost friends got to reunite and hang out at the bar alone. I have also gotten the more obvious āleave us aloneā eyes/body language from the men Iām being summoned to intercept for. Iām not sure where all the āIām a good manā men are at but they sure leave a bunch of small women to fend for themselves. Unless there happens to be a Bear couple there, then they save women as well
ShadusMacAoidh
Serious question: would you have stepped in if you didn't get the "help me" eyes? Because if the answer is no, then there's the reason why you don't see the "I'm a good man" men stepping in. Because we're not getting the help me eyes. I would absolutely help someone in need. I HAVE helped people in need. But I also understand, I'm the very last person they're going to look to for help. I wear the uniform of the enemy, after all. I know why she picked the bear, and I don't blame her.
notsureofanything
In my personal experience, either men donāt see the settle body language of an uncomfortable women as most learn the smile, nod, and agree to the large predator and hide their fear, or they straight up side with the guy cause I guess there is an unspoken ādonāt cock blockā code. Only when the guy is VERY drunk and a women is giving OBVIOUS signs have I seen men step in. I should add bouncers have stepped in before. When a women is uncomfortable, she sends signals to every women around
Uprightcerebralyacht
While working retail I did this for several female employees. They usually had a signal if a customer was getting too aggressive and I'd come walking over and say something like, "Your Mom just called me and wanted to make sure we were still going to dinner with her tonight." It was usually enough to deter someone.
ChimkenDumplin
"It shouldn't be the driver's role to do good." would be a great bumper sticker for a bad driver.
leodavinci1
This is great advice, but sounds a little like preaching to the choir here. I'm afraid guys who need to accept "no" for an answer... don't want to (and won't) accept "no" for an answer. They aren't going to learn that lesson until it costs them... and for some, not even then.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Yet the story tells as the woman said "no" and the guy is ok with that. She said "no" and then she went home (in an Uber).
Nothing happened to the woman aside from having to come back to the fair for her car.
welcometothedystopia
I think it's for awareness - not trying to convert some bad guys - for decent people to be as aware as we can.
And yes, it reads like Grandpas facebook butI viewed it as a bit of a PSA to healthy men who might see a woman or stranger in distress. "Pretend to know me" or "pretend you're my friend or boyfriend" is a huge red flag someone is in danger. Most likely from a woman but I have also heard of scared kids doing this.
The idea is for others to be aware for our fellow people.
GutstobeGnK
This should never happen, of course, but neither should people put their Uber drivers in this type of position. An aggressive creep could do *anything* to a supposed boyfriend. I don't think this is something that should be recommended at all.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing happened to the woman, a guy asked her if she needed help and she lied about having a boyfriend and then the story ends.
RenaissanceFaireMan
IDK, did she try telling the truth? The guy seemed like a gentleman. Did he really do anything wrong? Did she actually say "no"? Men SHOULD learn to accept "NO!" as an answer...did she do that?
She lied to the guy about losing her car keys and when he offered her a ride home, suddenly he's the bad guy?
Nothing happened, the guy was trying to help. I don't believe this story one bit. Sometimes people are just nice and want to help.
LrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
youreathing
Imagine how creepy you have to be for a woman to call a complete stranger for help getting away from you. As a dude, I'm sorry this happens.
FallenJester
Number of times I've been asked to be fake husband/boyfriend at a bar is crazy. This kinda shit happens all the time. Pathetic. (On men i mean)
RenaissanceFaireMan
Help from what, a guy asking if you need help? Your car won't start (which you lied about) and a guy asks if he can help.
FallenJester
Bro, your fedora is too tight
youreathing
The creepy dude I'm referring to is the guy the woman was trying to get away from. The fact that you'd imply he's merely "a guy asking if he can help" says some things.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Or the guy is just being nice and just offering a woman in trouble some help?
SnakuPlisskin
If I offer a lady help and she uses an anti-creep brushoff, it stings but I understand. I have three sisters, none of whom made it out of their youth unscathed by creeps. If the only way these women can keep themselves safe is to assume that I'm a creep then so be it.
youreathing
This is why women chose the bear.
RenaissanceFaireMan
IDK, if I saw a woman in trouble and I could offer some help I would. I'm not a bear. How is a man offering help (like a gentleman) considered to be wrong?
Twinklepot
Some bars have notices in the ladies toilet. If you say a particular word to the bar staff they are trained to assist you with a safe exit strategy.
TheLastGreatAudit
As a former bartender "trained" is generous. Usually if there's something like that up, it's because the bartender put it there themselves. Still people trying to help out, but much more ad-hoc.
turtletjr
Yeahā¦ we need to stop sharing this all over social media. If itās hidden in the womenās room, leave it there. Surprisingly, creeps and rapists have Facebook too.
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
Yeah, I think 'Ask for Angela' is still a thing, I know if I heard someone asking the bar staff "Is Angela working tonight?" I'd know she needs help...
sharkhugs
Thatās a great note. I know the thing used to be to ask for an āAngel Shotā, but unfortunately thatās not secure enough anymore
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
It's definitely now known, but if asked at a bar and even if the guy hears it he'll know then to back the fuck off. Very rarely would a girl be attacked standing at the bar around plenty of people, it's better than nothing. But as was said some pubs have their own signs up in the bathrooms
imasneakypineapplehead
Angle shots, here down in the south. Ask the bartender for an angle shot, immediately get assistance and the cops called for harassment.
imasneakypineapplehead
Angel shots, sorry guys
ChimkenDumplin
"Angle" shots or 'angel' shots? Given the topic, second-grade spelling mistakes could fuck some stuff up.
imasneakypineapplehead
Yes sorry, auto correct.
mikasaur
Is that an acute or obtuse angle shot?
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
Yep, heard of those ones too and I'm in Ireland!! It's great that these things are known and someone can be helped... Even if the terms are well known, it can still be easier to ask for a shot, Angela, whatever, than physically saying "I need help" it's weird but I'd definitely find it easier than saying those words!!
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PineappleLoopsBroether
Wow, due to the context of this, you look like a super creep. Delete this, nephew
Wolf2Worrior
1. Not memes 2. It's four images 3. Good god, if you have attention span for gaming, you have the attention span for a short story.
RenaissanceFaireMan
A guy asked a woman if she needed help, she said no and then the story ended.
pritolus
A guy made unwanted advances, got rejected, got told no, and wouldn't stop following her around. He made her feel so unsafe that she went through this whole thing just to get away, and you want to hand wave her story because she didn't let it go where it was heading. You are the problem.
Ask if someone wants your company, and if they say no or hesitate you leave. Don't hamg around, don't fucking follow them, LEAVE. It's that easy, yet people like you don't seem to get it.
Pistolstar86
Those pieces of shit ruin it for the rest of the good guys.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Why, what did he do? She lied about not having her car keys and he offered to help. Isn't that what the "good guy" does?
RenaissanceFaireMan
As a "good guy" what would you do in this situation?
mikeatike
Assuming this isn't fake, what the fuck kind of friends does she have to string her out with a creep?
RenaissanceFaireMan
She went to the fair with her friends...in her car, but then when she went to leave she was alone? Then she lied about not having her car keys and the guy was all, "Can I drive you home?? She said no, called an Uber and then everyone was fine.
FelixG
Definitely gives off "and then everyone clapped" vibes.
mikeatike
Yeah, what if the Uber driver was a woman. Gonna keep canceling until a guy accepts?
Spidermonkey969696
Honestly maybe, if I were in that situation. I would like to say that she could pull a "this is my girlfriend" but my experience as a queer woman has taught me that pushy men often take that as a challenge and push even harder. Way too many men think that lesbian means she just hasn't tried the right dick yet.
mikeatike
Yeah, those kind of guys super hate anyone LGBTQ. But most users take like 20 minutes to arrive. What then, stand there while he harasses them? Hope the driver doesn't think "this is a scam I'm gonna get robbed" and cancel? It's why none of this story rings true.
Spidermonkey969696
Better to wait 20 min in public with the creep feeling awkward than go into a deserted parking lot with him following you or get into his car. Ordering one means that a potential witness knows where you are and will physically be there soon.
And lying about knowing her does nothing to make it more likely that the driver gets robbed. That's already a risk for drivers.
I'm with you that it could be made up. But I've also had similar real life experiences so it's realistic enough to me.
hsalonen3000
She shouldn't have to do this. I would not go out with these "friends" again. They left her all alone with the creepy guy.
RenaissanceFaireMan
So when the creepy guy accosted her, she left the fair and went to her car. The guy followed her, so she called for an Uber and waited for the Uber, leaving her car behind.
She then got in the Uber and nothing happened.
bikergeek6249
That creepy guy is a classic "missing stair".
TheWombatStrikesAgain
There's this phenomenon called a missing stair. Basically people can get so used to a dangerous part of their social group, they treat it as a minor inconvenience that can easily be navigated with a few rules. They have rules about it, and will discreetly warn newcomers, but never got to repair/remove it.
"It's just Steve being Steve. Just don't accept any car rides or opened drinks from him. Don't make a fuss about it. He's been part of our group since forever."
SnakuPlisskin
Holy shit
BangPowBoom
Shouldn't is a funny word. According to who? People are awful. We have to protect ourselves from them, whether or not we feel we shouldn't have to.
ADDGirl
Yup, that's not ok. They should stop inviting the creepy guy though, not just make sure females aren't alone with him.
RenaissanceFaireMan
So why did she lie about not having her car keys? Why not just get in her car and drive off?
thesiser
Tell me youāre a guy without telling me youāre a guy. To answer your question: Because the car is the metaphorical corner that will force a confrontation. She unlocks it and he gets in, or she unlocks it and he goes for a kiss or something more, or she pulls her keys out and he takes them, any of which force her into a risky confrontation she doesnāt want. His actions are about control. Until arriving at the car, heās the one making all the choices. The lie keeps her out of the corner and safe.
thesiser
And for the record, youāre not wrong in that she could have done exactly what you suggested and it all miiight have been fine. But his behavior was making her feel uncomfortable and he clearly wasnāt reading the signs up until that point. I think it was a smart move that should be unnecessary but here we are.
AveragePoet
Also the car might have been in a garage or other secluded area where she would be alone with him. Also I wouldn't want that guy to know what kind of car I drive or get my plate number.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing in this story said thing one about sex or rape.
Leaps
Neither did the post you are replying to
RenaissanceFaireMan
Yes...
ADDGirl
Um, ok.. I said quit inviting the creepy guy. If this is your answer to what I said, I have news for you.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Your news is "nothing happened to the guy that offered help to a woman who had a car that wouldn't start".
ADDGirl
Yup. I have news for you. If you do not understand what made the woman uncomfortable in this situation, you are part of the problem.
Dude "doesn't take no for an answer" and "has a history of being aggressive". He does not get invited to hang out with me and my friends anymore.
RenaissanceFaireMan
The woman lied about having lost her car keys, why didn't she just get in her car and start it up and leave?
ADDGirl
Dude had a history of being aggressive and not taking no for an answer. You talk like you've never had a guy trap you somewhere before.
I have. It's fucking scary.
RenaissanceFaireMan
All we have in this story is a woman who lied about losing her keys and then a guy offered to giver her a ride home (because he was told she lost her keys).
She then lied about having a boyfriend. We hear nothing else about this story.
As the story goes, nothing bad happened. Nobody was hurt, raped, assaulted...all we have is a story about how a woman said she couldn't get home and a guy that offered to help.
LrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
Did you totally miss the part he wouldn't take no for an answer?? Or how she felt uncomfortable?? Even without the fact that apparently he has a past, those 2 things are the only 2 things that matter. When a woman says no, when she shows no interest back, or is stand offish by advances , take note! Back off and leave her alone!
RenaissanceFaireMan
Look, if a woman at work was having similar problems with her car I'd probably offer the same assistance. Does that make me a bad guy?!
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
If she's turned down your advances and you've pushed her on it, suggest to her she gets a lift off a friend. If she wanted your help she'd ask for it, chances are she'd ask someone else! Seriously dude, wtf??!
RenaissanceFaireMan
So she lied about her car not working, then she lied again about having a boyfriend...and we're supposed to listen to the story about a woman who lied over and over about a guy who was trying to help?
CatShadowleaf
You're really intent on playing that card man and it's not working for you
RenaissanceFaireMan
I just want to know how the woman was harmed in any way, shape or form.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I just want to know the facts. Was she attacked? Did a guy offer to drive her home? What actually happened?!
SnakuPlisskin
Wtf is wrong with you?! Fact: dude was forward. Fact: dude would not take no for an answer - that means she had said no at least once. Fact: dude had a reputation for being aggressive. Fact: this dude with all these red flags followed her into a situation where she would have needed to make herself vulnerable. Fact: she lied to get out of a vulnerable situation. Fact: dude offered to help by putting her into an even more vulnerable situation. Seriously what dots are you failing to connect here?
CatShadowleaf
The Uber driver was not there and would not be able to tell that part of the tale
RenaissanceFaireMan
It seems she had her car keys, why wouldn't she just get in her car and drive off?
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
Opening the car door means she could have been pushed into her car. Women know these things, we suss out a threat and an escape very quickly. She obviously didn't feel safe opening her car door, if he pushed her in she'd be trapped.
Awmph
PSA: the sex is only good if your partner's eager for it too
idk who needs to hear that. but there it is
or0b0ur0s
Unfortunately, that's not a guarantee, merely a requirement. Apparently there are others.
Awmph
lol I too still remember being a teen
Fanner50
If that were true for everyone, there would be no serial rapists.
Awmph
rape ain't good sex, imho
ymmv
cozynester
passive misogyny (perpetuated by men and women) continues to coerce people into thinking that intimacy is about "playing the game" with hard-to-get vs relentless pursuit. The problem is, this is a really fun dynamic when both people are consenting to it, but many never include that very important caveat when they talk about pursuing romance. Communication is the key to a stable foundation, and if someone is honestly not into you that way, don't add a "Yet" and pursue a one sided attraction
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Iām trying to get my husband to stop tickling/whatever our young daughter when she says no, even when itās in that āno but actually definitely yesā giggle (you all know what I mean). So she learns that ānoā means full stop. Donāt say no unless you mean it, and expect others to respect that.
RevengeIsIceCream
This sounds like a great lesson. :)
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I read about it somewhere, but itās admittedly a hard habit to break when faced with the adorable unabashed giggling
cometitmakesyourteethturngreen
Partner used to sulk, cry, punch walls if I said not tonight. Said I should be okay with him being upset about no. Just let him do it. 7 kids
cometitmakesyourteethturngreen
Would also be upset if I wasn't 'into' it
cometitmakesyourteethturngreen
Help
RenaissanceFaireMan
The guy was trying to help, she said no. Nothing happened.
Awmph
k
RenaissanceFaireMan
Exactly. Thanks.
darthstormer
"Surely if I'm pushy enough, she'll change her mind and be totally turned on!"
Or
"I don't care if she's into it, but also it's definitely not rape because "
Ardranor
Well obviously they won't say no, because of the implication...
MrRandom314159
"She said yes after I threatened her entire family so it was still valid consent, right?"
Akintunde
I was nice to her three times which is the exact number of pumps I need to climax, I don't see why that's an unfair trade. (/s hopefully obvious)
Anarchduke
"Couches never say no."
-JD Vance
Awmph
they would if they could tho, JD
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing in this story said thing one about sex.
Awmph
it is almost as if the story took place in a well-known context
RenaissanceFaireMan
It's almost as if the story took place in an unknown context.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Look, the woman didn't get raped by the guy. He just offered help. What's the problem?
Awmph
"He wouldn't take no for an answer"
ask yer mom why that's an issue for women in the world
RenaissanceFaireMan
There's nothing to the story that says he did anything wrong. The story ends where the woman lies and lies again and then....the guy doesn't help the woman?
RenaissanceFaireMan
Yet obviously he did take no for an answer because nothing happened....
Cryolith
For many men, sex is not about the other person. It's about them being in a position to use another person. It's about power and ego, and the other person is just their proxy.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing in this story said thing one about sex.
GloriousPirateBeard
Hey guy, you're part of the problem
SlightlyOffCenter
I can honestly say I have never thought like this and never will, and have never even considered it like this until seeing you write it out. To me you just described rape, and that is crazy to think that is a common thought process.
Cryolith
Ir is rape, but also much more. Men often treat entire relationships in the same way- about power and control and not about the other person at all.
Awmph
yeah. that's not good sex.
andexer
Sadly, it is for them
Awmph
it may be *their* best
but it ain't good
littlecoatfatguy
You seem determined to miss the unpleasant-but-accurate point theyāre making.
andexer
It's not about being their best. It's that controlling dominant sex IS what some men enjoy. Respectful, emotionally-connecting sex is not something they would enjoy.
It's not that they've only had bad sex and so just don't know better. It's that what others might call bad sex, they call good and seek out, prefering it over other options.
Sunshine12345
If it's not an enthusiastic yes, it's a no.
UncleMeaty
Being eager isn't essential. Being willing is.
Awmph
sex w/o eagerness is not good sex
ymmv
apairofpetducks
Enthusiasm > skill/technique/tool (size and model irrelevant)
SomeOneHasBeenLookingForYou
entirely so - anything less than an "enthusiastic yes" is uncomfortable, and i treat that as a "no" unless discussed/checked in on etc.
NorwegianSheepknuller
It's true, had an eager girl who acted not eager (dead fish) and it felt like rape and thankfully I did not enjoy it.
NorwegianSheepknuller
Context: she picked me up, she said her wishes to me and during our fishfilleting I even asked her a couple of times to make sure she actually did enjoy it.
bendaresall
Fishfilleting! Hehe
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing in this story says thing one about rape.
Awmph
it is implied
perhaps you should seek help w/ understanding humans' weird af social cues [ no judgment ]
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nope, you need some serious help if you thing a man can't just help a woman without there being some undertones of rape/sex.
Awmph
maybe I do need help.
however, you are still mystified by context which is amply informative to the rest of the folks.
My issues have nothing to do with your difficulty picking up on the social cues in the story.
NorwegianSheepknuller
Maybe not, but it implies she was afraid of being raped.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I'm afraid of having my lung taken out. Doesn't mean I have just one lung.
NorwegianSheepknuller
As a dude with one working lung I envy you
RenaissanceFaireMan
I'm afraid of having my kidney taken out...
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Sadly, some people are all about control and power when it comes to sex. The pleasure and enjoyment of others is secondary, if on the list at all. That said, I believe and hope that to be true for a small minority.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing in this story said thing one about sex.
Awmph
Lovely and red is Kamalaās mouth, but try to kiss it against Kamalaās will and not a drop of sweetness will you have from it, which is so capable of dispensing great sweetness!
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Wtf?
Awmph
https://www.google.com/search?q=Lovely+and+red+is+Kamalaās+mouth%2C+but+try+to+kiss+it+against+Kamalaās+will+and+not+a+drop+of+sweetness+will+you+have+from+it%2C+which+is+so+capable+of+dispensing+great+sweetness!
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
Explain or not, but don't just fucking link to Google.
Not clicking that you lazy bum.
TheSwedishCryptid
There's been studies that a surprising amount of men are OK with rape as long as you don't call it rape or similar.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nothing in this story said thing one about rape.,
sheatarco
She was trying to get away from an aggressive guy who wouldn't take no for an answer. She had a complete stranger pretend to be her boyfriend to get away from him. What do you think is going on in this situation.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Why would she call an Uber if she had her car keys?
sheatarco
Because she was trying to avoid putting herself in a situation where she might be raped.
RenaissanceFaireMan
IDK, because nothing happened. She lied about her car trouble and then called an Uber? The Uber arrived and then she went home. The end.
Froggie243
Please, for the love of all the things that are nice in this world, reread all the replies you are getting until you understand. The woman was in danger and relied on a complete stranger to play along to get away from that asshole.
mwoodman
Areā¦ are you the guy following the woman in this story? Literally everyone else reading this story knows the woman is trying to avoid getting raped.
RenaissanceFaireMan
But she didn't get raped...nothing in the story says she got raped.
mwoodman
Okay, guess youāre a troll then. Sorry I tried.
RenaissanceFaireMan
IDK, she was thinking she might get raped but didn't get raped. That doesn't make the guy a rapist.
Spidermonkey969696
He is someone who has disregarded the consent of others in pursuit of sex or romance. That's a big fucking red flag for him being a potential rapist, and also a terrible thing to do in its own right, even if he never intended to do more than walk her to her car.
The bar is much higher than don't rape, you also have to respect consent for other things, like hugs and handshakes, attention/conversation, personal space, objectification etc.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Nope, I'm the guy who would help a woman in trouble.
Sunshine12345
Considering what you just said I don't believe you. That woman was afraid of being assaulted and relied on a complete stranger to avoid being raped. You, somehow, missed that and decided to argue that take was never brought up.
mwoodman
If you canāt tell this story is about avoiding rape, I donāt think youāll be much help