Honestly, it was fairly obvious that AI was coming. The writing was on the wall for a long time. With capitalism the way it is, why would any company want to pay a person to do what a computer will do for free?
Part of the problem with "AI is in everything now" is that what we have isn't AI, and it's not new. The "innovation" that makes generative AI work is just a training shortcut, it's the same algorithms we've had all along. So the C-suite is coming to the engineers and saying "we need to put AI in our product" and the engineers are saying "that's not AI, it's just a fancy classifier, hell, we already have tech like that in our product" and then the c-suite tells marketing to rebrand with AI
Yeah I got an email that said "congrats you've been selected to use our in house AI, take this training to get access" told my manager I'd not be taking the training
well you know what they say, rich people can never be wrong. and rich people want us to want ai. like really really bad. rich people are extremely desperate for ai to work
Remember when companies were like oh yeah man you need to get a 3D television and pay more for 3D movie tickets and don't forget to spend $$$$$$$$$$ on 3D glasses for whatever the fuck anyway this reply is about AI
The capital class will pour the resources of the world into AI for the hope of it, allowing them to dispose of one last impediment to their amassing further dragon hordes of wealth.
They put “AI” drive cams in our ambulances and they still have to have human reviewers because they suck and false alarm so often. The only reason they exist is to put more pressure on drivers so they’ll be less likely to take actions that might cost the company money by having a toaster yell at you constantly about your driving
this is it exactly. its crazy, ive never seen any product before where every user fucking hates it but we're required to keep using it because rich people want us to
So you haven't used Google for the past 10 years? You don't go to the hospital? You don't support cancer screenings? You don't use any Adobe products, and haven't for well over a decade? You don't use auto-correct? You don't scroll on any SoMe platform ever? You don't support physics or chem research? And the list just goes on endlessly?
You haven't noticed google results getting worse and worse over time? Haven't had your recommended videos on youtube get horrible skewed after watching a video someone linked to you and you didn't even finish? Look, AI has legitimate uses, especially when adding additional overview like with cancer screenings. But there's a difference between providing new and innovative ways of doing things, vs replacing working methods with worse but cheaper alternatives.
10 to 20ish years ago I could do a google search and it would search for the words I asked for, making it easy to find nearly anything quickly. Now, you're lucky to get some convoluted bullshit that vaguely references one of the words you were searching for and ignoring the rest of what you typed... and even then it's usually some site that's more word salad than useful in any way. Between SEO and AI it's completely gone to shit.
Except people are just not using customer service as much, they haven't stopped being customers. This is what I have seen all over, quality dips and no one stops buying because what else are you going to do? Instead we just save them money but not using their customer service agents
Another part to this is that companies had chatbots years before AI/LLM really blew up, there's also a long running trend to give other paths to do the task some other way (website, phone menu system, etc) with talking to a real (expensive) human as the last option. Where I think it gets annoying is trying to present "Hi, I'm Steve, how can I help you?" with the stock photo profile pic as a real person when it obviously isn't.
It's that now it's the 'cool new thing' so executives are just cramming it into everything and anything. From being on the inside of ecommerce I can absolutely state it's purely about getting away with the shittiest (cheapest) service they can. And with no one to complain to it's become irrelevant, because people generally don't stop buying from companies. The amount of AI interviews I have had which makes absolutely no sense, might as well send a questionnaire. It's just gotten dumb.
Like obviously any business is trying to lower their costs as much as possible, but from the outside one would think there is some lower limit to quality or services provided that needs to be met to maintain their brand image and so forth, but no there absolutely isn't. Not for these massive corporations and they set the standards for what the rest will try to emulate. So it's just a shit spiral with quality and service plummeting as prices rise for the vast majority of companies.
I'm also a teacher. High school science. AI is a whole new can of worms. The kids hate it... but if an easy cheating tool came around when you were 16, wouldn't you have used it? I don't blame them. But it's a new world.
It's just going to snowball, total nightmare. I expect undergrads to be at the same level as my generation was at that point but if they cheat in high school, they're not and I have no desire to teach them high school writing skills and then they're mad because they don't have the skills expected and on and on
"can't separate copyrighted material"? Fine. Anything made by an AI is subject to a flat tax that makes it comparable in cost to hiring a human.
That tax is accumulated and put towards a fund providing universal basic income, which is owed because they've taken peoples' work without permission and used it to put those people out of a job.
Shit, not often I'm caught off guard by an idea like this, but I think this sounds like a decent way to 1) mitigate AI's use as a means to replace employees 2) mitigate it's use in general, as the environmental, societal, and logistical atrocity it is right now and 3) ensure that anyone adversely affected by it can be reasonably taken care of. I mean, it'll never happen because of all that and more, but I'm sure you know already, and it's a good idea.
I'm pretty sure it's a shortened version of the Noldor. Though I'm not really sure how Fëanor's oath to fight withholders of the Silmarils is relevant.
LetThemEatPie
AI itself isn't so bad. Their need to tack a huge monthly fee on it is why it doesn't work for me.
Shaodyn
Honestly, it was fairly obvious that AI was coming. The writing was on the wall for a long time. With capitalism the way it is, why would any company want to pay a person to do what a computer will do for free?
Darognarr
You passed.
idontlikepickingusername
The one time I tried the Adobe Acrobat AI, it told me it couldn't read the document. That's literally the only thing that could be needed.
SavageDrums
They've invested so much money in this shitty tech that if it DOESN'T start being profitable, they're in for a big hurt...
Spoiler alert, tech bro assholes: it's never going to be profitable.
ATLandNerdy
Part of the problem with "AI is in everything now" is that what we have isn't AI, and it's not new. The "innovation" that makes generative AI work is just a training shortcut, it's the same algorithms we've had all along. So the C-suite is coming to the engineers and saying "we need to put AI in our product" and the engineers are saying "that's not AI, it's just a fancy classifier, hell, we already have tech like that in our product" and then the c-suite tells marketing to rebrand with AI
BubblesTheFish
Correct opinion.
mknut389
Yeah I got an email that said "congrats you've been selected to use our in house AI, take this training to get access" told my manager I'd not be taking the training
TheAdjuster
you mean you don't want a "Bespoke Ai Samsung refrigerator"?
thefinglongerer
I got to see Windows "Click to Do" AI functionality today. It takes screenshots of your computer, then parses the text, and lets you select the text.
acuteavocado7
well you know what they say, rich people can never be wrong. and rich people want us to want ai. like really really bad. rich people are extremely desperate for ai to work
kerdude
Remember when companies were like oh yeah man you need to get a 3D television and pay more for 3D movie tickets and don't forget to spend $$$$$$$$$$ on 3D glasses for whatever the fuck anyway this reply is about AI
WhatzitTooya
Or when everyone was gung ho on talking assistants like Alexa...
DukePhelan
The capital class will pour the resources of the world into AI for the hope of it, allowing them to dispose of one last impediment to their amassing further dragon hordes of wealth.
The cost of labor.
cousteau
I like how this tag test got 600+ points.
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
I know. I went to sleep and it had around a hundred points, and I thought it would die there. Woke up to almost a thousand.
cousteau
Over a thousand now. Congrats, you got one of the top scoring posts of the week from a tag test!
AtomicCarp
They put “AI” drive cams in our ambulances and they still have to have human reviewers because they suck and false alarm so often. The only reason they exist is to put more pressure on drivers so they’ll be less likely to take actions that might cost the company money by having a toaster yell at you constantly about your driving
freakdiablo
"We've invested MILLIONS into this thing that no one asked for, but we don't want to admit we made a mistake so you're gonna use it anyway!"
acuteavocado7
this is it exactly. its crazy, ive never seen any product before where every user fucking hates it but we're required to keep using it because rich people want us to
Zeplin
So you haven't used Google for the past 10 years? You don't go to the hospital? You don't support cancer screenings? You don't use any Adobe products, and haven't for well over a decade? You don't use auto-correct? You don't scroll on any SoMe platform ever? You don't support physics or chem research? And the list just goes on endlessly?
SoThatsWhere
You haven't noticed google results getting worse and worse over time? Haven't had your recommended videos on youtube get horrible skewed after watching a video someone linked to you and you didn't even finish? Look, AI has legitimate uses, especially when adding additional overview like with cancer screenings. But there's a difference between providing new and innovative ways of doing things, vs replacing working methods with worse but cheaper alternatives.
Zeplin
That has nothing to do with AI in Google, and way more with the amount of spam online now.
Jaysen
10 to 20ish years ago I could do a google search and it would search for the words I asked for, making it easy to find nearly anything quickly. Now, you're lucky to get some convoluted bullshit that vaguely references one of the words you were searching for and ignoring the rest of what you typed... and even then it's usually some site that's more word salad than useful in any way. Between SEO and AI it's completely gone to shit.
mcneelyj
Basically they replaced customer support with AI. Then they stopped keeping customers because their service sucks.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Except people are just not using customer service as much, they haven't stopped being customers. This is what I have seen all over, quality dips and no one stops buying because what else are you going to do? Instead we just save them money but not using their customer service agents
aducksayswhat
Another part to this is that companies had chatbots years before AI/LLM really blew up, there's also a long running trend to give other paths to do the task some other way (website, phone menu system, etc) with talking to a real (expensive) human as the last option. Where I think it gets annoying is trying to present "Hi, I'm Steve, how can I help you?" with the stock photo profile pic as a real person when it obviously isn't.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
It's that now it's the 'cool new thing' so executives are just cramming it into everything and anything. From being on the inside of ecommerce I can absolutely state it's purely about getting away with the shittiest (cheapest) service they can. And with no one to complain to it's become irrelevant, because people generally don't stop buying from companies. The amount of AI interviews I have had which makes absolutely no sense, might as well send a questionnaire. It's just gotten dumb.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Like obviously any business is trying to lower their costs as much as possible, but from the outside one would think there is some lower limit to quality or services provided that needs to be met to maintain their brand image and so forth, but no there absolutely isn't. Not for these massive corporations and they set the standards for what the rest will try to emulate. So it's just a shit spiral with quality and service plummeting as prices rise for the vast majority of companies.
cellardoor42
It's dog meat
rhitard
KentKnifen
khora
Get sharted
tavinjer
They do for now. Bets on how long it’ll take for it to all fall apart? (Besides “a bit longer than it should”)
SunBrolem
Long enough that by the time it does the damage will be irreparable.
KiwiGameDev
Longer than we can afford to not have long lasting repercussions
BaddyOneShoe
I paid and worked so hard to get all of my I. Fuck AI. Pay me for my I.
DrAnimalWelfareScientist
I get paid for my I but the youth are using the AI and making teaching so much harder
BaddyOneShoe
I'm also a teacher. High school science. AI is a whole new can of worms. The kids hate it... but if an easy cheating tool came around when you were 16, wouldn't you have used it? I don't blame them. But it's a new world.
DrAnimalWelfareScientist
It's just going to snowball, total nightmare. I expect undergrads to be at the same level as my generation was at that point but if they cheat in high school, they're not and I have no desire to teach them high school writing skills and then they're mad because they don't have the skills expected and on and on
PosthumousExile
Also any farming they've done on my IP should be paid for
QuantumInc
They can own the AI but they can't own you. So they would rather own the AI.
CakeOrGlory
"can't separate copyrighted material"? Fine. Anything made by an AI is subject to a flat tax that makes it comparable in cost to hiring a human.
That tax is accumulated and put towards a fund providing universal basic income, which is owed because they've taken peoples' work without permission and used it to put those people out of a job.
spookyu
Shit, not often I'm caught off guard by an idea like this, but I think this sounds like a decent way to 1) mitigate AI's use as a means to replace employees 2) mitigate it's use in general, as the environmental, societal, and logistical atrocity it is right now and 3) ensure that anyone adversely affected by it can be reasonably taken care of. I mean, it'll never happen because of all that and more, but I'm sure you know already, and it's a good idea.
GuysJustWannaFish
"We don't like good ideas around here" ~people in charge
PutThePRNDLinD
As a concept AI beats NoI. In reality; it's just another tool to fuck with people.
VosperOfAntarctica
I really dislike that it got branded as AI. It really is just automated NoI.
MrSquiggleTheManFromMars
What is nol
UncleShrimp
Best guess is no intelligence.
iambutton812
I have noIdea
Joxtacy
Just a guess here. NoI = No Intelligence
bassaro
I'm pretty sure it's a shortened version of the Noldor. Though I'm not really sure how Fëanor's oath to fight withholders of the Silmarils is relevant.