Religion for some is a way to feel superior to those with different beliefs. The 10 Commandments is a lot like a flag. It is very easy to wave it around but it takes effort to understand what it really means and what it doesn't.
All this stuff is doing is basically admitting that churches aren't doing their job. Not a message I would think church leaders would want to have out there.
Word. I had a client that was a “Christian school”. They f’d me over so hard, demanded a refund, and then told me that they are praying me and my business. So much for the golden rule.
The purpose of posting the 10 commandments was so it would be challenged in court. Like the raptors in Jurassic Park, the right wing is testing the limits of their power and using the courts as a way to advance their agenda. With right wing judges in place and a compromised SCOTUS, they're hoping to chip away at the foundation of the united states and turn it into a fascist corporatocracy under the guise of a democratic christian theocracy.
they used to talk about democratic principles The American Way with their theology used to pretend anyways. There was always theocratic fascist in their moments. There's no Democratic Christian theocracy correctly with the Evangelism it's all God's chosen president rule over them basically divine right. I believe god if there is a god does not decide who is president the people do and this is coming from a person identifies this Christian.
This. The Ten Commandments, The Bible, and even Christianity have nothing to do with it. Those are the distractions they throw out for their opponents to be outraged about, since it won't matter-they don't care if the arguments against those things are correct. None of these evangelical monsters attacking the country believe a single word of it.
Depends on what you mean by 'help'. Will it help them become more moral? No. Better educated? No. But will it help them become indoctrinated to christianity? 100%.
Eh. Seeing how people respond to having to sing the pledge of allegiance, as well as how most kids respond to being forced to chuch until they hit 18 I think this will have the opposite effect.
Highly doubt those in charged bothered to research the effectiveness of this policy
Having gone to catholic school my entire education, I can attest it does the opposite of indoctrination. The majority of my class ended up atheist or agnostic.
The 10 commandments shouldn't be in classrooms bc it violates the establishment clause in the first amendment. I would be wary ab using indoctrination to defend this bc it lends creedence to the idea that education is indoctrination. Which is, as we all know, a tactic used by conservatives to malign LGBTQIA+ people, and defund public education.
There are no false Christians just like there's not a real version of spiderman. I don't think there has ever even been a religion which never changed and always did as their doctrine said.
I see Hogwash is coming at you for this take, and I have to agree, unfortunately. It doesn't matter if they are real or not, the end result is the same: pushing the white evangelical "American" version of Christianity specifically. That goal was established with every fucking explorer, conquistador, missionary, Pilgrim, manifest-destiny-motherfucker out there.
How many people recognized that terrorists weren't "real Muslims?" Does it matter if they are or aren't when folks die?
Theres over 10k different sects and denominations of christianity. Each with their own view of what a 'real' christian is. Each with their own interpretation of the bible. And each saying the others got it wrong. The only thing unique to be a christian is that you believe jesus was real and accept him as a saviour. Thats the only common thread that exists.
While you're technically correct, the Bible itself describes false converts on numerous occasions, so it's not like there aren't internally consistent grounds for critique.
NIV Mathew 25: 31-46 pretty clearly spells out what behavior he's looking for, and that failing to meet that standard results in "eternal punishment." If anyone argues that acts of charity aren't required to get into heaven, they're directly contradicting the words of Jesus himself.
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
They’re trying to guilt trip you/us while they hypocritically condemn others for creating the same actions.
cambriago13
It doesn't help students. It doesn't ever really help evangelicals. But if logical thought was a consideration, they wouldn't be evangelicals.
drum4fun
I have a lot of helpful things posted in my classroom students pay no attention to.
Darjanator
It's not. It's about control. Always was, always will be.
Illpostcheese
Well, there are actually eleven, but these people are like, fuck Jesus. Right?
Clockworkdancerobot
Kids can't eat the 10 commandments, but the conservatives sure think they don't need lunch or breakfast.
HeresYourSauce
It was never supposed to help
KenjiKando
Should post em with the title "The 10 rules hypocrites like to yell at you to do, but not actually follow." Would that fit within the rules?
Hexrowe
It's not supposed to help, it's supposed to establish dominance.
RevolutionOnHerLips
this. it's just intimidation
ilsalta
Your first mistake was assuming it had anything to do with “helping” children.
ucandcantunc
Stop trying to use logic. They are no swayed or influenced by it. It will not stop them from lining you up on the firing squad line.
cosinewave
Religion for some is a way to feel superior to those with different beliefs. The 10 Commandments is a lot like a flag. It is very easy to wave it around but it takes effort to understand what it really means and what it doesn't.
Merdock
How about teaching philosophy and ethics? To me, that seems like a subject matter missing in our education system.
CameraMonkey
Anyone else think they’ll put them in bullet-proof cases on the wall?
leodavinci1
All this stuff is doing is basically admitting that churches aren't doing their job. Not a message I would think church leaders would want to have out there.
thereitis101
The ten commandments by themselves isn’t the issue. It’s a test issue to ram other things into public schools until they’re teaching Christianity
EatPieLander
cryborg
It helps the church con people out of more money.
SomeDetroitGuy
It's supposed to help them become evangelicals.
Zamm005
It helps them be more bigoted to people of other religions.. and it helps them to feel more justified in themselves when they do so.
Illpostcheese
Evangelicals don't even know the eleventh commandment exists, so how are they supposed to care about the first ten?
kinarism
It's not supposed to help students. It's supposed to check a box on the evangelical's heaven bingo card about missionary work.
therandombagofmeat
Word. I had a client that was a “Christian school”. They f’d me over so hard, demanded a refund, and then told me that they are praying me and my business. So much for the golden rule.
amatte
Just a FYI there's more than 10 and it's more of what you'd say guidelines than actual rules
FiredBoy13
Religion doesn’t belong in government or in schools.
taez555
The purpose of posting the 10 commandments was so it would be challenged in court. Like the raptors in Jurassic Park, the right wing is testing the limits of their power and using the courts as a way to advance their agenda. With right wing judges in place and a compromised SCOTUS, they're hoping to chip away at the foundation of the united states and turn it into a fascist corporatocracy under the guise of a democratic christian theocracy.
Darksol439
they used to talk about democratic principles The American Way with their theology used to pretend anyways. There was always theocratic fascist in their moments. There's no Democratic Christian theocracy correctly with the Evangelism it's all God's chosen president rule over them basically divine right. I believe god if there is a god does not decide who is president the people do and this is coming from a person identifies this Christian.
WenTheEternallySurprised
This. The Ten Commandments, The Bible, and even Christianity have nothing to do with it. Those are the distractions they throw out for their opponents to be outraged about, since it won't matter-they don't care if the arguments against those things are correct. None of these evangelical monsters attacking the country believe a single word of it.
taez555
The voting block they're catering to are just useful idiots. Pretending to placate to their ideals is how they seize power.
HogWashDiddler
Depends on what you mean by 'help'. Will it help them become more moral? No. Better educated? No. But will it help them become indoctrinated to christianity? 100%.
cadesama
No, all that will happen is silent intimidation of minority religion students.
Crowlands
So, it harms them then. It's that thing the GOP loves: Harming people, especially vulnerable people, like kids.
Crowlands
I believe that the average Republican doesn't enjoy the physical pleasure of sex, they just like the permeant harm it does to their rape victim.
TheEvenPrez
Eh. Seeing how people respond to having to sing the pledge of allegiance, as well as how most kids respond to being forced to chuch until they hit 18 I think this will have the opposite effect.
Highly doubt those in charged bothered to research the effectiveness of this policy
3rdoption
It's not about effectiveness. It's about gradual intrusion of their religion into all aspects of life.
fishpuddles
Having gone to catholic school my entire education, I can attest it does the opposite of indoctrination. The majority of my class ended up atheist or agnostic.
spittleteets
The 10 commandments shouldn't be in classrooms bc it violates the establishment clause in the first amendment. I would be wary ab using indoctrination to defend this bc it lends creedence to the idea that education is indoctrination. Which is, as we all know, a tactic used by conservatives to malign LGBTQIA+ people, and defund public education.
FartsSmellBad
Not really, obviously the people forcing it aren't actually Christians either.
BrickShakes
There are no false Christians just like there's not a real version of spiderman. I don't think there has ever even been a religion which never changed and always did as their doctrine said.
richardstinks
I see Hogwash is coming at you for this take, and I have to agree, unfortunately. It doesn't matter if they are real or not, the end result is the same: pushing the white evangelical "American" version of Christianity specifically. That goal was established with every fucking explorer, conquistador, missionary, Pilgrim, manifest-destiny-motherfucker out there.
How many people recognized that terrorists weren't "real Muslims?" Does it matter if they are or aren't when folks die?
HogWashDiddler
Theres over 10k different sects and denominations of christianity. Each with their own view of what a 'real' christian is. Each with their own interpretation of the bible. And each saying the others got it wrong. The only thing unique to be a christian is that you believe jesus was real and accept him as a saviour. Thats the only common thread that exists.
AsheLake
While you're technically correct, the Bible itself describes false converts on numerous occasions, so it's not like there aren't internally consistent grounds for critique.
NIV Mathew 25: 31-46 pretty clearly spells out what behavior he's looking for, and that failing to meet that standard results in "eternal punishment." If anyone argues that acts of charity aren't required to get into heaven, they're directly contradicting the words of Jesus himself.
FartsSmellBad
And yet even that minimal requirement is too much