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This is the point of no return. STAY HOME KEEP SAFE ❤️.
Wow I've gone viral again! I have to stay home for 14 days now.
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This is the point of no return. STAY HOME KEEP SAFE ❤️.
Wow I've gone viral again! I have to stay home for 14 days now.
KleanUpGuy
"free americans"
reallyneedtopoop
It was set up from the beginning. She wanted to get arrested and talked about it in Facebook.
Getchectfret
Ooooo, juicy
Queenofthewildthings
My friend knows her. This lady is a nut case.... Pray the gay away... faith healing...anti vax... All of it. She just wants attention.
Malus333
andrnew2710
There are those who think law should protect but not bind them, and bind but not protect you.
Syko73
"Just comply and you'll be fine"
NomDeImguerre
But "don't break the law" is what the right has been saying about drug addicts etc. D'frent things, I know, but it looks hypocritical.
Lisossoma
Most illegal drugs have a lower impact on public health than spreading COVID. Hard drugs rarely harm any other than the consumer and family
jazzfactory
CORRECT! When minorities get arrested, "they live in a free country and they chose to break the law." Now the shoe's on the other foot.
spudpicker
They defend awful treatment to border crossing families because "It's ILLEGAL!", but blocking ambulances to protest a closed salon is fine.
Imalwaysready
The right? Being hypocritical? WHA!?
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
I would apply it to both. No, you shouldn't be taking illegal drugs either.
FjordFiskursson
I think you should.
TheWhiteBarry
Things that were legal: slavery, the Holocaust, crusades, Japanese internment, etc. Legality in no way implies correctness or goodness
GrylaFaol
Thing that is still legal in the US: Slavery
spambridgeuniversity
Source for that?
GrylaFaol
The 13th amendment allows it as a punishment for a crime.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Nor did I imply it did.
Jonnythetrout
The issue is that most of these are executive mandates that circumvented normal law making. MI has the biggest issue because weve been (1/2)
Jonnythetrout
told what we are and are not allowed to buy. That's an overreach imo. Most people take issue with the governor being the sole say. (2/2)
NoCreativity3
I believe that's the point. It's ironic.
VinerialBlumpkin11
If only there was a written law, maybe an old one that guaranteed peacefully assembly and right to travel unmolested.
Traja01
And illegal immigrants
FightingRevengeOfYourMom
Hypocrisy doesn't matter anymore to the dittoheads.
Roaddog184
For one, the officers gave her multiple chances to leave the park, the play ground equipment was closed because of how long to the 19 can
Roaddog184
Live on plastic surfaces, two she would not stop running her mouth, then said after the 4th or 5 the time being given chance to leave, just
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
It's amazing how the law and order folks at Fox seem to cry "tyranny" when a white person is arrested.
captaingrump
Pretty sure this one is a stunt, as well. The arrest was planned, as was the protest at the cop's house. It's on reddit somewhere.
Imalwaysready
It's all planned. Nothing in reality is real or spontaneous any longer.
whycantiholdalllthesewats
It was planned and Ammon Bundy was in attendance.
LukkaPucca
While people are out there protesting for their lives, these folks are protesting to go get a hair cut...priories.
hotstuffburns
Planned by the arrestee, not the fuzz. It was a trap.
Afterlife666
These dumb fucks just don’t understand and are going to get someone killed.
FresherAndMintier
I'm immunocompromised and live in ID. There's no effort here social distance or isolate, makes it hard to just manage my basic needs.
whycantiholdalllthesewats
I live in ID. Everyone I know is taking it very seriously. I haven't left my home except for groceries since March 13. Sorry it's hard :/
FishSausages
That's some hot "Blue Lives Matter" -ass shade right there
Radix865
Iankill
The fact that these Americans think being told to stay inside to prevent a the spread of a virus is oppression is absurd
wastedpoptart
Much of that depends on how much support you get though. For a few it may mean losing a home, food, future. Etc. but showing up with guns
wastedpoptart
Armor and shit is really reserved for the dumbfucks that just want to make the news.
hotstuffburns
She’s also anti vax so she barely counts as a person.
Ifacatsbuttholeisonly2inchesoffthegroundwhyisitalwaysateyelevel
The Americans that you're referring to are the idiots in the bunch. We'd all throw them into a volcano if it was acceptable.
LadyADACG
Privileged, Entitled, Self Centered, Self Absorbed Snowflakes are the only ones liberating CoVid19. They are being instructed to do so.
BlueDsc
My Dad watches a lot of Fox news and I overheard someone on there compare it to Nazi Germany the other day.
furriephillips
Their education is sub par & their egos, inflated. Their minds are skewed toward god, rather than critical thinking. #theycamefrompilgrims
Macnin10dos
Nah, what’s absurd is the way they arrest them but don’t arrest protesters. They arrest a man making deliveries for his business but (1/2)
nickisbeast777
Different counties and states have different laws, and apparently she argued into getting herself arrested.
Macnin10dos
I’m also referring to another case where a man delivering “non essential “ items to people that wanted to purchase them from his shop.
Macnin10dos
(2/2) Don’t arrest companies forcing their employees to make deliveries. It’s about consistency in enforcement. That’s what I’m angry about
cheddarjacktees
"Deputies said they visited the store five times earlier this month, found it was open and watched employees interact with customers."
CodeBit
Dont worry it's not all of us, it's just the same idiots always giving a bad name to Americans
icefire555
Yehaw!
Rhewin
Inb4 the MAGA crowd join together in screeches of impotent rage over government oppression.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Most of these "stay at home" and "don't go to parks" laws are unconstitutional and seek to punish people for being reckless.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
So, while I think the laws are good, they are oppression by definition. How bad it is depends on how 'Murica freedom loving you are.
FreshNews247
That's very short minded. But thank you for the comments.
Rhewin
Just pointing out the only other comment ATM is someone telling the government to f*ck off@
FreshNews247
Doesn't mean you sink to that level.
Imalwaysready
But we're law-abiding citizens...until we aren't! But the laws we broke were unfair...but when other people say that it's just an excuse.
smooshiebanana
I am so proud right now of the Meridian, Idaho PD!
FreshNews247
Thanks for the comment. They are looking out for you and your family.
SneakyEmu2
It's funny how a mother taking her kid to play is the first time imgur approves of "just don't break the law"
crazedhunter
its more of a calling out the pure irony of the situation.
Traja01
Yea typically it’s for things like fleeing violence and seeking a better life for your family instead of selfish disregard for public health
spudpicker
She wasn't taking her kid to play. It was a planned protest deliberately violating social distancing, and she wanted to get arrested.
SneakyEmu2
Then there you go. Protesting isn't illegal, in fact it's protected by the first amendment
spudpicker
Endangering public health and trespassing is not protected. And protestors are routinely dispersed, detained, fined, and released.
SneakyEmu2
Not endangering anyone who chooses to not be in public. Your logic is so obviously self refuting I don't see how you don't see it.
spudpicker
How do you not see that idiots who get sick will end up infecting essential workers and using medical resources? It's not just about them.
jerkyloutt
Her name is Karen 30 seconds into officer explaining area closed to public she demanded the manager. So he took her to the manager
FreshNews247
What is it like to have morals?
StephenDaniels
I think if i was a cop I'd look the other way if it was just one family on the swings or something. I can see why not, since you 1 of 2
StephenDaniels
2 of 2 could be leaving viruses behind for the next family, but still. Protesting in front of the cop's house is beyond contempt though.
spudpicker
This was a group of protestors deliberately occupying the only part of the park that was closed. It's not just one mom taking her kids out.
PoliticalWanderer
BurntToast127
Wait who said communism is oppressive?
PoliticalWanderer
The girl holding the sign, apparently. I don't think pro-Trumpers who dress in the American flag generally have a high opinion of the big C.
usernamethatsstillavailable
Communism is just american for "bad". Though communist regimes tend to be oppresive.
NoWonderImStillAwake
Tend to be? They're always oppressive, literally every time lol. Oppression is a requirement for a communist regime to maintain power.
SpeedBeetle
No, oppression is a requirement for a dictatorship to maintain power. Nothing in communism mandates a dictatorship.
NoWonderImStillAwake
Communism by definition does not protect the rights of individuals since the group is raised up above the individual. Due to that, any
fuckthisishard
That's why there have been so many free and open communist regimes in history.
petrie911
"Dictatorship of the proletariat" is right there in the manifesto.
petrie911
Everyone who's ever lived under it.
Sandyundertones
Authoritarian regimes are oppressive. I am not aware of any nominally Communist regime that wasn't authoritarian.
xrosstalk
Thank you! Communism is mainly an economic structure. Authoritarian is the gov't type. Although nearly every example of communism has 1/-
xrosstalk
been an authoritarian regime. Just like most examples of capitalism have been oligarchies. Not equating the two...just a thought. 2/-
LadyADACG
So entitled, This Karen strikes me as the lady who would speed dial 911 for any tiny infraction that other kids do at the park on the daily
LadyADACG
But during a national emergency she is belly aching because she refused to follow the law. Talk about a bunch of snowflakes. Privilege much
TVPro
Mom should be charged with child endangerment, disturbing the peace etc. throw the book at all of these clown shoes.
FreshNews247
What if your mother was in her clown shoes would you say the same?
StuckInBetweeen
wHaT iF yOuR mOm cOMmITtEd tHe cRImE?
Zackfan
Yes, child endangerment is still child endangerment
critausy
Yep, and I'd call her a dumbass too. Its a fking virus not an annoying neighbor you can ignore.
2rojan
If I'm in a park, and no one else is around, I've not had any contact with anyone else, until the cop comes, what crime have I committed?
rooik14
"Don't go to public places unnecessarily" because if everyone does it, it's a problem. It's like stop lights. if everyone ignore them...
OkTedi1990
Sounds like you want everyone else to obey the law, but it’s ok if you don’t
nickisbeast777
If there's signs saying that "park is closed" and you're on the property, trespassing.
ChallengedTRex
It wasn’t even the park itself, but the playground. There have been test done that show the virus can last longer in those areas.
spudpicker
She wasn't alone, she was with a group. The police told her she could stay on the open grass or sidewalks.
stevent1965
The truth, as always on imgur, is more nuanced than that. She deserved it but not in the context of Rogan O'Handley's interpretation.
Radar3000
As George Orwell warned us long ago: everything will be fine if we just shut up, do what we’re told and rat each other out when necessary.
LukkaPucca
I doubt George Orwell would appreciate any idiots trying to get others infected with the pandemic. He knew how idiots can be swayed by a pig
Radar3000
I wonder how Sweden, who never had a lockdown but just instructed their people on the essentials social distancing and proper hygiene...
Radar3000
Have had a more successful time flattening the spread than any of the other European countries. Their results, when compared to ours...
Radar3000
Are very similar. Be careful in calling people idiots who are following similar guidelines as a group of people shopping for groceries.
LukkaPucca
Well for one, their health care system isn’t over run by greedy health insurance corporations. Also they are well educated. (1)
rooik14
but they're not. They have a larger per capita death rate than the USA and many other countries.
abidikgubidik
I'd argue that people in Sweden are more educated about social distancing and aren't exposed to Sean Hannity and the like
abidikgubidik
and probably less entitled and selfish than these protesters
TheNeckCracker
Mortality rate is below 0.5 percent. Lots of people have been tested and had antibodies for 'rona. People are suffering due to lack of food.
ChallengedTRex
Idaho doesn’t have the best health care. We are a rural state compared to most. One county actually has a mortality rate of 50%
capughe
If more people are hospitalized at once it reduces our ability to keep them all alive. Not everyone has an equal chance (that 0.5%) of 1/
capughe
survival, and those who have complications might see lasting effects if they do survive. We need to ease back to normal carefully. 2/2
spudpicker
Yeah, who cares that many survivors face long-term pulmonary function deficits, neurological problems, and a host of other side effects?
evilcarp
The chute opened and my decent has finally slowed. Now I can cut it away!
VinerialBlumpkin11
If only there was a written law, maybe an old one that guaranteed peacefully assembly and right to travel unmolested.
rooik14
If only there was a Supreme Court Decisions that said your rights end where people's safety begin. Maybe about theaters and saying "fire"
VinerialBlumpkin11
Saying fire in a crowded theater all on it's own is dangerous. Being outside all on it's own isn't.
rooik14
It is during a pandemic.
VinerialBlumpkin11
It still doesn't matter. A fair comparison is if the person is knowingly sick. A healthy person being outside during a pandemic is 0 risk.
VinerialBlumpkin11
Even a sick person going outside isn't necessarily a risk unless they intentionally put themselves in a situation likely to transmit disease
rooik14
2/2 the fuck inside. So yes it does matter.
rooik14
People should be aware now that you can asymptomatic. Your public health officials let you know this. You could have the disease so stay 1/2
SeekyTheFox
Mr George sir, the redcoats said we have to stay indoors and that our revolution is breaking the law. We might get people hurt.
rooik14
Ooh gotta love the spicy trolls coming out of the wood work with a false equivalence.
SeekyTheFox
The bill of rights are rights. Not privileges. Sorry but it is the reason the stay at home orders are NOT laws but guidelines.
SeekyTheFox
She could stay outside. However the park (government run) was closed. She was arrested for trespassing not exercising her rights.
rooik14
2/2 all of this is "free speech" but they're also crimes. Rights come with responsibilities. Now get out of here with your false patriotism
rooik14
Your rights end where people's safety begins. Yell fire in a theater, see what happens. Call synagogue saying you'll shoot it up. 1/2
bambers
This is what I don't understand. The protesters aren't getting arrested (from what I've seen) but mom's and shop owners are. Anyone explain?
Rhaok
It's easier to vent petty, tyrannical urges on 1-2 isolated individuals than 100.
Daruni
Yeah I live a couple towns over. She argued herself into handcuffs.
TheDudeElDuderino
Ahh, see that's why. I was like wouldn't it just be a, you need to clear the area.
Mozart49
If you make and law and you brake it. You can go to jail. What's not to get. I'm not saying it's right but that's how laws work
DoubleChungTransplant
She was in a park that was closed, which you can get arrested for on a regular night if you're in a park that's closed.
JustJoe2047
Funny how often that simple point of view eludes so many people. Closed. Do not enter. Maybe if the sings read "fuck off" it'd register.
wellthatsjustyouropinion
each locality is handling it their own way (ie, chaos). some cities gave out permits for the 1st round of op gridlock, but they caused --->
wellthatsjustyouropinion
a mess, blocking traffic and not practicing social distancing (as required in the permits) so many protests are being denied permits now too
chrisjohnson76
US people have right to assemble. Super hard to take that away.
sirlein
Also, she is putting her kids lives in danger. Someone with covid could of been playing in the park before them.
ecnelisz
aren't kids pretty resiliant to covid? people keep mentioning kids but kids don't give a fuck about covid from what i've read.
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ecnelisz
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Businesses have additional obligations that are not protected in the same way as rights of individuals.
HypnotoadIRL
Arresting protestors is a step to far in my eyes. I don't like them protesting but for a country to take that away, that would be a problem.
Gluseph
Because if you take away "the right to protest" then people start to riot.
Someoneisinmyhead
Here in Minnesota, you arent banned from going out. Just suggested to stay in.
IAmAGoldenGOD
Apparently she and the group she was with are protesters and tore down caution tape to get to the closed park. Got that from reddit though.
IAmAGoldenGOD
In the video she argues with the officers for about 5 minutes after repeated warning that she must leave and then tells him to arrest her.
iabsolutelyfckingabhorguns
I love mom's and shops
tootsie87
In that specific case the mom crossed police tape because it was closed then ignored requests to leave.
PoopyProblem5
I think the protesters petitioned to congregate which is their right to assembly. The moms didnt
NickAmazing
Protesting is protected by the constitution
K2yS
They had a whole park to use but chose to occupy the one section that the city had cordoned off.
lynxBeast
You have been visited by the triggered without full information fairy. Partial context and iconic brand included for max effect.
aslum
The kids didn't have guns and weren't completely insane.
whycantiholdalllthesewats
It's a protest coordinated by the "Freedom foundation" and Ammon Bundy. It was all a setup.
mattshadex
Protesting is constitutionally protected. Regardless of circumstance, and rightfully so
Rrrrgrr
Look up Astroturf.
KiloElectronVolt
There are few police who are going to start arresting people strapped with body armor and sporting rifles. A lot of paperwork.
Imalwaysready
See, America is a fucked up place where power is unevenly distributed, moral consistency is absent, & each media outlet cherry-picks what >
Imalwaysready
stories to cover to sew outrage w/ it's particularly biased viewers since media has been reduced to fighting for ads over honesty to survive
Jediblues
That park is about 3 miles from me, and it's owned by the city. She was asked to leave, and arrested on grounds of trespassing. The video...
Jediblues
... was really entertaining. News station showed it.
AnAussieTroop
If Cops arrest "protesters" they'll get shot at by the morons with the guns for "infringing on their rights" because America fucked itself
dewthefifth
Generally speaking, the protestors have applied for a permit and been granted one.
Grizabellakat007
In NC here, protesters are getting arrested.
Danniboy27
Protestors are getting arrested, it just doesn't make news I'm the same way as this
Crazywelderguy
similar to riots, they can't arrest everyone. Most of the mom/shop arrests are after multiple warning and/or the person getting belligerent
malibu35072
She was arrested for disorderly, not breaking quarantine.
CoarseAndSalty
It's tough laying down the law with people involved in a civil rights issue. It gets messy and the example becomes a symbol for something.
miked854
Protesters in NC did get arrested. I saw at least one protest done entirely within cars which I think was legal there.
antleroid
1st Amendment right to peaceful assembly for political purposes. It's a clear cut rights violation to stop protests. Park outings are diff.
RF2019
ever since trump was elected the police simply do not arrest protesters unless they kill someone. literally without fail
RF2019
i dont even particularly know why because they apply the same logic to both "sides" of a protest
wastedpoptart
Hopefully that continues for all peoples/races/religions etc.
SidneyHarbor
You can arrest individuals easily, but you can't arrest mobs.
ralphie84
Watch the video, she argues with the cop about moving to another side of the park and OFFERS to be arrested.
Seedofvengeance
Thats some advanced Karen technique right there
Rhacodactylus
After she and the other moms took down caution tape the city put up, mind you.
Rhacodactylus
Just imagine the scenario if the women weren't white.
GoofyGoobers
Sauce?
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GoofyGoobers
Ya it just keeps showing the women who probably killed her kids and fled to Hawaii
ralphie84
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lesterfeder/coronavirus-sara-walton-brady-video
JayEnfield
Ahhhhhh, she wanted to be in the news. Got it.
Interex
What really sucks is after that someone leaked the cops address and all the protesters went to his house, no one was arrested there.. Crazy
chitterbug
These are probably the same folks who were pushing the whole "Blue Lives Matter" thing too
IjustsaywhatIthink
She is also a big time anti-vaxxer if that helps explain what her intelligence level might be.
FreshNews247
How do you know this? Why does it even matter?
Cindex1337
People who exhibit this behavior are simply just like that. They will fight "the man" over the exact wrong things, just to be opposition.
IjustsaywhatIthink
I live where this occurred and there is plenty of press info. As for why? It shows a mindset that predisposes a specific behavior.
BHPaperstacks
Treasure Valley represent
PickleDemon5
Because anti vaxxers are all ill informed argumentative fucking retards who will go against the norm just to feel superior.
jenniAwwMaker
Knowing that she went to the park for the purpose of causing a scene and creating this kind of story changes things. Think Gone Girl.
GigiDundas
Because it's local news and she's known for being a bat shit crazy cunt. Also if you're anti-vax then you're stupid, no wiggle room there.
Imalwaysready
So all we have to do now is wait for the fully armed protestors in the KY capitol building to OFFER to let us arrest them...
iliketotellabsurdconspiracies
I hope they don’t. I hope they get stupid and start reaching for weapons.
derwulf
Why?
Gayforbae
While notreally an ethical view, bc these.couch cowboys have no real exp in their walmart tacticool,& willbe slaughtered by trained officers
AlexisActually
You hopin' for a boog?
Mozzarellaqueso
White privilege “cough cough”
byohzzrd
In some jurisdictions the right to protest was expressly allowed, while some parks were expressly closed. If a park is closed or 1/?
byohzzrd
expressly forbidden by government/official, yeah it's trespassing. Arrest away. TBF, I have to check before leaving the house to see 2/?
byohzzrd
what's currently closed or nonessential. It's a confusing situation where everyone is doing what they think is right but may not be . 3/fin
Radar3000
Peacefully protesting is a First Amendment right. We need to respect protests, even when we are for what the protesters are against.
yzark01
Under normal circumstances, these arent normal circumstances. These people are unwittingly spreading a dangerous virus during a pandemic.
Radar3000
If I had no time on Imgur, I would be shocked that anyone could downvote such a basic American right. But, sadly, I’m getting used to it.
rooik14
Your rights end where other's safety begins. You lose your right to say "fire" when entering any movie theater.
jenniAwwMaker
If you murder someone as protest you can still be charged for murder. Protesting isn’t a free-for-all.
Radar3000
Ah, so you’re against Antifa as well.
whycantiholdalllthesewats
Still doesn't give them the right to protest in a closed area. All they had to do was move off the playground onto the grass.
whycantiholdalllthesewats
This was set up by Ammon Bundy. Look him up. He cares about his 15 min and sticking it to any government authority. Don't fall for his crap.
gablestout
Very simply, The First Amendment supersedes the law. Congress shall make no law..abridging..the right of the people peaceably to assemble 1/
gablestout
While this originally meant Federal law, SCOTUS has ruled the 14th Amdt's Due Process Clause means the Bill of Rights applies to the states
rooik14
2/2 movie theater that is not in fact on fire. You'll be locked up very quickly once you're caught.
rooik14
That's bullshit and you damn know it. SCOTUS decisions show your rights end where other people's safety begins. Try saying "fire" in a 1/2
gablestout
That was settled in Brandenburg v. Ohio ( 395 U.S. 444 (1969) ), and it applies to the freedom of speech, not the freedom to assemble
rooik14
It means any freedom ends where people's safety begins. If you endanger the public you don't get to keep doing that.
gablestout
Yes, which is why blocking the ambulance IS illegal, but (peacefully) protesting on the steps of the capitol is still protected. 1/2
DoubleChungTransplant
Also this was a political stunt and the woman is an anti vaccine nutjob and the head of an organization 9f nutjobs in Iowa.
Thatsagoodbid
Umm, I thought that this was in Idaho not Iowa. Two different places.
DoubleChungTransplant
Whatever. States that start with I in the middle of the country. Can't remember both of them.
TheCaptain00
Spuds, pigs, corn, yokels, and boring as Nebraska. They sound the same to me.
OmNachoMama
Right to peaceful protest is Constitutional. Try to shut them down, and you create a bigger problem.
ReaperCDN
Which part of peaceful includes firearms? Because that's called terrorism.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Only white people have this right apparently...
RedFortuna
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peaceful-assembly/us.php ...nah? There's several reasons right to assembly can be waylaid.
OmNachoMama
You're right. The law allows for shutting it down, but the optics involved in doing so might create a bigger problem for local authorities
persnicketyemu
Honest question: Is it still considered peaceful if they come armed?
cheesedogs
About as peaceful as a mugger holding you up at gunpoint but not actually shooting you
ReaperCDN
No it is not
HootSloot
Yes, if they are white and/or conservative.
Photeus
Yup if it was a group of people middle eastern or from central America, toting guns these same people would be screaming about Terrorists.
SneakyEmu2
Yes. Yes it does. Just like the police are still considered peaceful when even when armed.
LesLesVegetables
Technically yes. Many states have open carry laws and having a firearm still constitutes peaceful. With a hint of angry.
jenniAwwMaker
In Texas can begrudgingly confirm.
ShadeFawks
A lot of these protestors aeem to have AR-15's with them. Depending on how dumb they are, they may use them <.<
bambers
I would hope that cops would intervene with anyone breaking the law, but I see your point.
dratini10
Protesters don’t carry guns, terrorists do.
ArcaneAlchemist
I agree. If you've got a gun, you aren't a protester. If not for the innocent lives around then, I'd have them shot for treason.
Renewablefrog
This is what I've supported all this time huh? So they can feel tough and intimidate others? I hope they lose every damn firearm they own
Caldersson
What those protestors should be labeled as. Why have guns at a non-violent protest? Because they want to instill fear in others.
Caldersson
Theres a place for guns (hunting/competition etc) protest is not 1 of those reasons. Should strip them of that right and trialed
HypnotoadIRL
Arrest them for open carrying in a state that allows open carry? Just making up laws now?
Iankill
Opening fire on cops for issuing a citation would make you an enemy of the state
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
Not if Trump says it was justified because they were “liberating Michigan” or whatever. These people have been itching for another civil war
SlasherQuan
Unfortunately all sins are forgiven now if your compass needle always points to T. Only true enemy is ones that don't agree with him.
RisingPhoenix92
Tell that to the people who took over the Wildlife station in oregon. And apparently the jury
wallaceericson
Or a "martyr and defender of freedom" depending on which side you're on.
Greenshield
How tan are they?
kookyabird
Well with the stay at home orders, not very.
ReaperCDN
Those arent protestors they're terrorists. They brought guns. Call a duck a duck and start fucking charging them.
kookyabird
And not just guns over their shoulder, but presenting them in a semi-ready position as if they're riot police.
ambiencenever
The ones blocking ambulance bays are def making terroristic threats.
antleroid
they brought guns PEACEABLY. smh, America.
Gluseph
Hahahahaha "terrorists"
johnblood616
We know that to you "terrorist" means "Muslim."
Gluseph
Or the NRA, or far right white nationalists, or Antifa, or anybody who fits the description. Someone with a runny nose isnt that
johnblood616
Oh also anyone who whines about Antifa is a Nazi sympathizer. They deserve the same fate as Nazis
johnblood616
People blocking ambulances while waving guns around during a pandemic?
PlayingWithDynamite
It's not terrorism, its posturing. Dont overuse a word for hyperbole because eventually it loses its meaning
ReaperCDN
Using fear or intimidation to advance a political agenda is terrorism. That's literally the definition. It's not hyperbole to call /1
ReaperCDN
a duck a duck. If they want to be peaceful protestors, leave the fucking guns at home. If you want to be a terrorist, bring the gun. 2/2
skyrneisk
Well unfortunately for your POV there is a fundamental right installed in this country that governs folks ability to carry a gun.
PlayingWithDynamite
So are American police terrorists? Are soldiers terrorists? Is open carrying a firearm anywhere grounds to label you a terrorist?
FreshNews247
Different from township to township.
cepacolusmaximus
Because there is ZERO cohesive policy available, rules change from one block to the next.
gablestout
Per the 1st and 14th Amendments, it is illegal to arrest a person for peacefully protesting.
ThatLoserTheFourth
This is true, but here in Virginia at least, there are temporary laws in place banning gatherings of over ten. Shouldn't that make 1/2
ThatLoserTheFourth
organizing protests unlawful for the time being? It's a strange grey area for sure 2/2
gablestout
Hard to answer in 140 char, but you can't ban protests all out: He's some help: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peaceful-assembly/us.php
LinkaAdoptsACouger
Tell that to the hundreds of people arrested for the Occupy Protests
gablestout
The phrase in the 1st Amendment, "peaceably to assemble" is the key. It becomes speech (protected) vs conduct (not protected).
bambers
That makes sense. I just feel bad that consequences aren't consistent.
InspectorMonroe
That's the beauty or curse of a state federation. Rules really do apply in some places but not others.
HuntingtonBrown
Lolol then let me tell you about the American Justice System.
WildCassandra12
Yeah, I mean MN you can now do a lot of outdoor activities, whereas WI (I think) is much stricter about parks being open. It's hard to track
Clouden
The USA are just a bunch of different countries under the same flag. It's a little like Europa.
Silas007
With the notable difference that the EU seems to have serious commitment issues.
Clouden
Yep.
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
Sadly it is not a consistent country.
WhAtAb0uT
If only there were a smart singular elected person who could put out effective guidelines for everyone to follow in a calm factual manner...
ghxstmountain
Welcome to the real world buddy. Its really about who you know and how much money you have. Even skin color sometimes too.
JamJarre
I mean welcome to America? Having a federal system with strong states' rights is good sometimes, and not great at others. Tradeoff
NotNotDeadpool
It allows some states to turn out garbage.
IceTownClown
Like California
AJMansfield
Sure, but it allows us to not *all* be garbage together in exactly the same way.
jtcaveman
Why do you have to go and single out Florida like that...
JamJarre
You gotta let them make their own mistakes
rusrsdude
That's the problem with larger countries who can't govern themselves accordingly. Not to say it's easy, btw, i'm sure it's difficult.
rusrsdude
Not all states will be equal in terms of governing, some will have bad leaders and some good. Just gotta get lucky the voters know whatsup.
steviEa
During this whole pandemic name one thing that’s been consistent? Besides consistent bullshit
dblemaster
Because in a lot of (R) states, many of the cops actually agree with the protestors.
FreshNews247
Source? I'll wait.
dblemaster
I live in Alabama. I have a few police officer friends.
WhAtAb0uT
powderedwigs
Right to protest I’d still a constitutional right.
AgainstMethod
So is going to the park, but both of those rights can be taken in the service of public safety.
PangolinBan
Going to the park is not a constitutionally protected right. As long as they do it peaceably the 1st amendment protects protesters. Even 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 if they don't do it peaceably, law enforcement will usually allow some leeway to prevent escalation.
AgainstMethod
That last part really depends on the protest.
Caldersson
Right to peaceful protest, not right to endanger or threaten others or block emergency vehicles routes.
HootSloot
Only if I agree with your politics, otherwise I should get to run you over.
CheekyNand0s
You're getting the hang of imgur!
kookyabird
Right to peaceably assemble, and it is limited in the same way freedom of speech is. When your assembly threatens the safety of the 1/2
kookyabird
2/2 public, it's no longer allowed. Violating other laws to protest does not mean you're immune from punishment under those laws.
PangolinBan
You're absolutely correct, but law enforcement can exercise discretion in how strict they want to be. Sometimes less harm is done by 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 letting people get it out of their system even if they don't do so in a strictly legal way. Emphasis on "discretion" and "sometimes" tho