So if you ever get into home brewing you find out there are a lot of different hops that taste different. I recommend making tea with those hops till you find one you like cause it’s fking delicious. Also by that time forget the beer, just make hop tea. It’s fking delicious.
I like IPA's but they've completely dominate the market for the last 10 years. Taps, and fridges are usually 80% IPA's... I guess you go where the money is, but jeez people need to expand their pallet.
As a drinker of stouts and porters, I'm often disappointed in how dominant IPAs are in pubs here in the UK. I do like some light ales. Just all to often not enough dark ales are available.
One of our best local breweries makes half a dozen amazing beers. Every bar in town has their Stout on tap though. It has a great name, so it makes sense everyone wants it on the menu
I find it's almost a shame, the "Gaels blood potato ale" is amazing, as is the "insurrection pale ale", but the "back hand of God" gets all the attention (it IS a great stout, and I don't even like stouts)
I find sours are taking over where I live. That, and the vodka soda/iced tea faction taking over the craft beer section, the IPA selection has gone a little downhill.
I am noticing more craft lagers lately, though. I love all ales, not a fan of lagers and I'm on the fence about sours. My partner is the stout man. But to each their own, I'm glad the selection is expanding for the non IPA people
It's the alcohol percentage. IPAs are everywhere because 1 IPA = 2 lagers. After you drink for a while, you build up a tolerance. If I want to get drunk it would take so many lagers that I'd be full before I got drunk. Look at weed as proof of my concept. Back in the 80s weed only had 3% thc on average. Now it's above 15%. More active ingredient means faster high/buzz
I love spruce tip ales. In my area, the different breweries use Sitka Spruce, and it has a very citrusy flavor to it. I've straight-up eaten the tips off of trees, and yeah, tastes like tree and lemon.
I *used* to like beer, but then I didn't have any for a few years, and now I can't stand the taste. But hey, I'll raise a glass of root beer to you when I have one later.
That's me. Beer tastes like fartwater, all wine and spirits tast like paint thinner, the only way to make a cocktail where that flavor doesn't cut through everything else is if it's mixed in like a 1:6 ratio of sweet/sour flavors. So I'm pretty much limited to a weak sex on the beach.
It's basically just a hypersensitivity to bitter flavor and harsh chemicals for me. Same thing if you give me a steak with some char on it, all I'll taste is burnt ash.
I don't mind. I just wish someone would make something other than an IPA. Around here, it's IPAs or bud light. Or that stupid bitch beer because some jackasses can handle a trans woman drinking the same beer as them.
I'm surprised by this comment section and this comment in particular, as I loved IPAs before they became the big "thing" for smaller breweries to do, and for larger breweries to ape (ironic). Where I live, most IPA/APAs are solid.
Hell, I've introduced my mother (who normally only rarely drinks Leffe Blonde in terms of beer) to numerous kinds and she's liked maybe 9/10 she's tried (also, she's 75).
Yup. For years, all I drank were hefeweizens, then ambers, eventually moved to IPAs. Now my favorite amber (Mac & Jacks African Amber) tastes "wet" and I flat out dislike hefeweizens...
As an ipa enjoyer myself (some a bit rough ill concede), a question to those that dont care for it: how much soda and other sweet flavors do you drink? Like I cannot handle a carmel macchiato, I dont know how anyone could drink something so sweet much less ask for extra syrup. Ive been curious if theres a correlation.
Pretty much none. Don't even like desserts. I'd rather have a pale ale, or a bitter, a stout Whitbeer, sour, pretty much anything but a wildly unbalanced iPa. Sierra Nevada is ok I gues
I drink sweet tea that isn't super sweet and that's it. The hops in IPA are just overwhelming fir me and it ruins the experience. It's just a personal taste.
IPA hater. Also do not enjoy Pine Sol, or overly sweet beverages. Daily caffeine is straight espresso of any roast. If I get a sweetened coffee drink, I usually ask for 70% less sugar. Red wine, never white (except champagne). Stout, porter, other dark beers are my favorites, but I like pretty much every beer other than IPAs and the mass-produced stuff.
I like IPAs the more hops the better, and sodas are far too sweet, and I can't stand coffee with syrups, if it has milk the milk has enough sweetness. Don't think it's correlation I'm just a salty person.
Coffee, black. Sodas, only when I'm in the mood for something sweet (usually when I eat something really salty). Plain water, most of the time. The few ties I've tried an IPA, they've tasted revolting to me.
Ale was formulated specifically for flavour. IPA was invented as a way to ship preserved liquid long distances for hydration. Taste wasn't a consideration.
I like IPAs but I despair over the fact that that's all anyone seems to be making. I really have a thing right now for modern sours and it's not easy to find them.
I enjoy IPAs. There was a Mango one from VooDoo Ranger called 1985 which my brother and I were religious to one summer. Some IPAs taste like you're drinking Pine Tree sap though and the smell of them comes out of your pores. At least for me, with the really strong pine sol ones.
Why not just have a gose, radler, or a shandy then? It's the IPA's inherent earthy/grassy taste that's generally the issue, so I feel like you want to just remove that hurdle.
Whoops I forget "NE" stands for "New England" rather than "North East" oh well luckily IPA bros are very non-pedantic people and will surely forgive my small error
Also, fresh. If you're drinking a bitter modern IPA, its probably old. Gotta drink em <2 months old. <1 month ideally. Thats why I don't buy IPAs at the store anymore unless I'm buying them for an event and expect them all to be opened soon. Otherwise they just go bad sitting in my fridge waiting to be opened. (I don't drink them by myself, only open with guests).
Just because something is safe to drink doesn't mean its going to taste good. The dominant flavor of IPAs is hops. Especially these modern IPAs, which are very floral and citrus forward, are full of very volatile alpha acids that are rapidly breaking down after brewing. As they break down, the floral and citrus notes fall off quick and quickly turn the beer into a bitter mess. Anyone that knows anything about beer will tell you that an IPA is the LEAST shelf stable beer. Safe to drink, sure, >>
but it won't taste like its supposed to. The most "shelf stable" beer is arguably a lambic, which can age gracefully for a decade or even more. Barleywines and Imperial Stouts also can last for years. Check out the best before dates on any craft IPA and compare those to the best before dates on other craft beers, like stouts.
The citra-hops are awesome yes. But I "aquired" the taste for IPA even before they were using these new hops, it took a while, but I love IPA now. All these bitter things take time to get into, coffee, chocolate, IPA, but when you get into it, wow they taste amazing.
All beer has it's time and place. Sorry you don't enjoy this one. Also sorry for elitist beer snobby d-bags who love to prattle on about shit no one really cares about. Try a lot of different stuff and like what you like. Stouts are great. IPAs are great. Ambers are great. Lagers are great. Pilsners are great. Kolsches are great. Sours...well, a lot of people like them, and that's great for them.
In my beer fridge, right now, I have maybe 6 different kinds of IPA, 3 different stouts, an amber, a couple of pilsners, a wheat, a Belgian farmhouse, and even a craft "corn lager."
Your unironically bandwagon jumping on hating IPAs, which the main reason people truely hate them is because they are so popular. They're popular because people, a lot of people, clearly like them. So to say they have no place anywhere, anytime, is clearly a trash opinion.
FrankTheCube
https://www.jonessoda.com/collections/all-items/products/new-jones-werewolf-piss-soda-online-only
seedye
Craft beer pubs: We have over 50 varieties of IPA on tap! Plus one bottle of stout for you weirdos to share who don’t like the taste of Pine Sol.
redpandabanana
So if you ever get into home brewing you find out there are a lot of different hops that taste different. I recommend making tea with those hops till you find one you like cause it’s fking delicious. Also by that time forget the beer, just make hop tea. It’s fking delicious.
Dednotsleeping82
I recently got into homebrewing. I've made 3 5 gallon batches so far.
redpandabanana
Nice. If you have a Trader Joe’s near you, get their spiced cider and make some hard cider with that. Super easy to do and pretty good
nevercompromisenoteven
Try a classic brittish IPA, they don't taste cat piss bitter! Twisted Thistle is a good one!
ILike2TouchButts
Like drinking perfume.
Delathi
Or a strong tea made from granny’s pot-pouri table display.
usernamethatsstillavailable
What's everyones problem with IPAs? Is it the bitterness?
Cactus21
How about a DIPA or DHIPA?
awunder
It sure is.
Case71
we've invented a drink made from lawn trimmings, roofing tar and sadness. enjoy!
suupersavvy
ughh double IPA!
MrStealYourGiF
As an enjoyer of IPAs, the hardest part, is waiting around in a lamp post disguise every full moon.
jrhawk42
I like IPA's but they've completely dominate the market for the last 10 years. Taps, and fridges are usually 80% IPA's... I guess you go where the money is, but jeez people need to expand their pallet.
Dednotsleeping82
That's why I started homebrewing. Where I live the stores carry IPA or hieniken. Or the really cheap stuff.
MrWobblyHead
As a drinker of stouts and porters, I'm often disappointed in how dominant IPAs are in pubs here in the UK. I do like some light ales. Just all to often not enough dark ales are available.
alyssajones123
One of our best local breweries makes half a dozen amazing beers. Every bar in town has their Stout on tap though. It has a great name, so it makes sense everyone wants it on the menu
I find it's almost a shame, the "Gaels blood potato ale" is amazing, as is the "insurrection pale ale", but the "back hand of God" gets all the attention (it IS a great stout, and I don't even like stouts)
alyssajones123
I find sours are taking over where I live. That, and the vodka soda/iced tea faction taking over the craft beer section, the IPA selection has gone a little downhill.
I am noticing more craft lagers lately, though. I love all ales, not a fan of lagers and I'm on the fence about sours. My partner is the stout man. But to each their own, I'm glad the selection is expanding for the non IPA people
BrdCdn
Tell me about. Not nearly enough craft lagers. People look down on lager for no good reason.
KrampusCopia
It's the alcohol percentage. IPAs are everywhere because 1 IPA = 2 lagers. After you drink for a while, you build up a tolerance. If I want to get drunk it would take so many lagers that I'd be full before I got drunk. Look at weed as proof of my concept. Back in the 80s weed only had 3% thc on average. Now it's above 15%. More active ingredient means faster high/buzz
BrdCdn
Yeah I don't like getting drunk off beer anyway. I'd rather drink whiskey. Too much liquid. I want a beer to enjoy on a hot summer day.
westPAguy
pmather021
Voodoo ranger juice force is actually spectacular. Orange juice beer at 9.5%
NotTheDevilYouKnow
Fantastic. I can drink a screwdriver, which is actually orange juice, at a solid 30%.
pmather021
Good for you, I just can't do liquor anymore, sad drunk vs fun night drunk.
TK421isAFK
Ditto for Russian River 'Pliny the Elder' IPA.
Fabulously
I’m European we have some nice beers and ales
Dednotsleeping82
Too expensive where I live. Like $12 a liter. I started brewing my own.
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
People can like what they like and not like what they don’t like.
ToSisPoS
More for me I guess. The memes telling me not to like them may ending causing a dip in price as well, so carry on.
Dednotsleeping82
I wouldn't mind if they drop slightly out of flavor. Right now it's hard to find anything that isn't IPA where I live.
Seandarkside
Taste like fermented pine cone juice
kwent86
lol yes, i like that piney smell, then i drink it and big regret follows.
KrampusCopia
You should stay away from gin
overfedlonghairedleapinggnome
I actually tasted an experimental beer from one of the larger "craft" breweries that used spruce tips for bittering. Interesting flavor.
SalmySwims
I love spruce tip ales. In my area, the different breweries use Sitka Spruce, and it has a very citrusy flavor to it. I've straight-up eaten the tips off of trees, and yeah, tastes like tree and lemon.
CosplayComet
My tastebuds are broken. All beer tastes like carbonated battery acid to me. Cracking open a cold one for me involves cola.
cheeseguy3412
To me, it all smells urine with additives. I tasted a few types once - it tasted like it smelled, though somehow worse.
Dednotsleeping82
I thought I was done with beer until I started brewing my own. Suddenly it's good again. Guess I'm lucky.
CosplayComet
It's a me thing. I also can't eat anything too spicy or my nose runs and I make the lemon face.
TheOldSchoolisBack
That’s part of the fun
Sidewaysgts
Same. Never got into beer. Give me a Dr Pepper. Only beer I like is root beer
TI99Kitty
I *used* to like beer, but then I didn't have any for a few years, and now I can't stand the taste. But hey, I'll raise a glass of root beer to you when I have one later.
Badprenup
That's me. Beer tastes like fartwater, all wine and spirits tast like paint thinner, the only way to make a cocktail where that flavor doesn't cut through everything else is if it's mixed in like a 1:6 ratio of sweet/sour flavors. So I'm pretty much limited to a weak sex on the beach.
It's basically just a hypersensitivity to bitter flavor and harsh chemicals for me. Same thing if you give me a steak with some char on it, all I'll taste is burnt ash.
Miyamotofan
No no that's perfectly normal. You can just get used to it if you try hard enough.
imwrongontheinternet
I don't mind. I just wish someone would make something other than an IPA. Around here, it's IPAs or bud light. Or that stupid bitch beer because some jackasses can handle a trans woman drinking the same beer as them.
THRILLHOUSE69
That's disgusting, I would never compare something actually drinkable to IPA's
Viscupelo
THRILLHOUSE69
Oh okay, so I can't be my authentic werewolf piss guzzling self here. I thought I would be accepted here.
Viscupelo
Now now, we don't kink shame here. Unless you are into that, of course.
SubTrout
I saw a "Triple IPA" in the beer aisle and just assume if you opened the bottle a bunch of raw hops would pour out.
Housemaster
BAT!
snixsys
IPAs are an acquired taste
filurilurl
I'm surprised by this comment section and this comment in particular, as I loved IPAs before they became the big "thing" for smaller breweries to do, and for larger breweries to ape (ironic). Where I live, most IPA/APAs are solid.
Hell, I've introduced my mother (who normally only rarely drinks Leffe Blonde in terms of beer) to numerous kinds and she's liked maybe 9/10 she's tried (also, she's 75).
gablestout
Yup. For years, all I drank were hefeweizens, then ambers, eventually moved to IPAs. Now my favorite amber (Mac & Jacks African Amber) tastes "wet" and I flat out dislike hefeweizens...
Delathi
So, the argument for IPAs is… Stockholm Syndrome?
snixsys
An acquired taste is an appreciation for something unlikely to be enjoyed by others who have not had substantial exposure to it. Cheers.
Tardis1217
Yeah, it's the old "you can get used to hanging if you hang long enough"
darxide
So is cat piss. Doesn't mean you should drink it.
MrHappySmiles
There are two of us!
seedye
But no more than four of us, certainly?
FuckTheFuckingFuckers
Three! IPAs taste like Christmas tree, to me. Cheers to those that enjoy them, though.
OneMoreLime
As an ipa enjoyer myself (some a bit rough ill concede), a question to those that dont care for it: how much soda and other sweet flavors do you drink? Like I cannot handle a carmel macchiato, I dont know how anyone could drink something so sweet much less ask for extra syrup. Ive been curious if theres a correlation.
astrangehop
Pretty much none. Don't even like desserts. I'd rather have a pale ale, or a bitter, a stout Whitbeer, sour, pretty much anything but a wildly unbalanced iPa. Sierra Nevada is ok I gues
Dednotsleeping82
I drink sweet tea that isn't super sweet and that's it. The hops in IPA are just overwhelming fir me and it ruins the experience. It's just a personal taste.
seedye
IPA hater. Also do not enjoy Pine Sol, or overly sweet beverages. Daily caffeine is straight espresso of any roast. If I get a sweetened coffee drink, I usually ask for 70% less sugar. Red wine, never white (except champagne). Stout, porter, other dark beers are my favorites, but I like pretty much every beer other than IPAs and the mass-produced stuff.
jekath
I don't drink anything sweet, really. Don't much care for it. But for all I care, they can poor IPAs right back into the horse at the other end.
squishybaker
I like IPAs the more hops the better, and sodas are far too sweet, and I can't stand coffee with syrups, if it has milk the milk has enough sweetness. Don't think it's correlation I'm just a salty person.
VillainousFiend
I drink my coffee black and I don't like IPAs. I think I just prefer malt/grain-forward flavours in my beer.
TI99Kitty
Same here, with the coffee, at least.
Coffee, black. Sodas, only when I'm in the mood for something sweet (usually when I eat something really salty). Plain water, most of the time. The few ties I've tried an IPA, they've tasted revolting to me.
LitterBoxKing
Same here. And then they upper their game with grapefruit IPAs.
Sebastopol140
Dednotsleeping82
Eww. I enjoy a good Pale Ale but IPA goes way too far on the hops.
LitterBoxKing
I understand that peoples' tastes are different, but I abhor IPAs like supertasters do cilantro.
But yeah, sign me up for a solid Pale Ale, Kolsch, or lager. And I'll never say no to a Scotch Ale.
squishybaker
The hops are the good part.
dwolvin
Invented for shipping, not drinking.
3Davideo
Oh, like tomatoes, and apples.
dwolvin
Especially them, but many others.
Bunhyung
Hull varnish
alcaray
Lots of folks think that the more bitter a beer is, the better it is. I think it is test of courage territory.
gtollie
*sipping ? /s
fformulaa
Yeah, shipping overboard
nevercompromisenoteven
Into my glass plz!
aPokal
Shipped in wood barrels for weeks. Half the process isn't done by a lot.
WhatzitTooya
Want to be a brewer but cant brew for shit? Try making an IPA and dump hops in in till you cant taste anything else.
misterCT
Basically
Bigcurly2000
Lol. As much as I like IPA's, this is kind of true. Most new breweries start with IPA's because they're the easiest to fuck about with.
siler7
As is usual with "Not X, but Y" statements, it's both. What is the thrill people get out of saying obviously untrue shit? Ale is not for drinking?
BrdCdn
Ale was formulated specifically for flavour. IPA was invented as a way to ship preserved liquid long distances for hydration. Taste wasn't a consideration.
siler7
Who said anything about taste?
lpooptoomuch
specifically shipping from England to India (India Pale Ale) since hops are a preservative.
neospor1n
I’m from a very beer oriented city. I hate some of the breweries that have way to many IPA and nothing else
n0n53n53
Seriously. LIke 12 different IPAs that all taste like shit and 1 lager, 1 pilsner, and a stout
neospor1n
Most of ours have 1 gose now as well, which is nice
crashmat
I like IPAs but I despair over the fact that that's all anyone seems to be making. I really have a thing right now for modern sours and it's not easy to find them.
neospor1n
Yra. Our area is getting more of them so those are the places we frequent
ArchonIlladrya
35 styles of IPA. All taste like ass water.
VanessaBludgeons
I enjoy IPAs. There was a Mango one from VooDoo Ranger called 1985 which my brother and I were religious to one summer. Some IPAs taste like you're drinking Pine Tree sap though and the smell of them comes out of your pores. At least for me, with the really strong pine sol ones.
neospor1n
Yea. Brother in law tried to tell me “goses are just like IPA”. I said “no, goses are sour. iPAs are bitter like your wife”
trapdoorogre
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
FeloniousMonk13
Can't go wrong with a nice cold Guinness, I always say.
ChernoGamma
and just wait for it to all blow over
FeloniousMonk13
cheidiotou
A delicious stout? Goooood! A hefty porter? Goooood! A nice IPA? Goooood! A hefe? Goooood? A Trappist style ale? Goooood! A pilsner?
TI99Kitty
Or a nice, almost room-temperature, Guiness?
Bigcurly2000
As much of a traditionalist as I usually am, I will say I think it was a brilliant move when they started serving Guinness extra cold.
lueven118
Nope, it’s too cold. Buy two pints of original Guinness and the second one will be perfect.
TI99Kitty
I'll have to try that, next time I can afford Guinness.
Bigcurly2000
Lol. Where in the world are you, is it noticeably more expensive than the average pint?
TI99Kitty
The U.S. And yes, very noticeable difference from domestic beers. When I used to drink, Guinness was always a special treat, not an everyday thing.
miserycones
I realize I'm being the guy from this meme but have you tried "North East"/hazy IPAs? They're more citrus flavored and less bitter
Bladedrummer
Hazy IPAs are even worse lol
JerBearington
I'm with you. Hazys have become part of my rotation while I don't mess with nearly any IPAs
HandoB4Javert
Still a better love story than Twilight
RigelKent
Definitely. I cannot stand regular IPAs, but I find hazy IPAs to be pretty good.
seedye
Yeah, nah. Less Pine Sol flavor is still Pine Sol flavor.
SubTrout
Why not just have a gose, radler, or a shandy then? It's the IPA's inherent earthy/grassy taste that's generally the issue, so I feel like you want to just remove that hurdle.
samuelwestphalia
jrhawk42
Unfortunately the west coast breweries are now brewing NE/Hazy's that taste like west coast IPAs so YMMV.
novagalaxias
That's because the West Coast Cooler
miserycones
Whoops I forget "NE" stands for "New England" rather than "North East" oh well luckily IPA bros are very non-pedantic people and will surely forgive my small error
xXx69420xXx
I love a good NE Hazy and I have to say that you’ve just made an enemy for life, so 🤷♂️
TheOldSchoolisBack
I’m a non-pedantic, chill guy, and I forgive you. I also hate IPAs.
Atomic2
Also, fresh. If you're drinking a bitter modern IPA, its probably old. Gotta drink em <2 months old. <1 month ideally. Thats why I don't buy IPAs at the store anymore unless I'm buying them for an event and expect them all to be opened soon. Otherwise they just go bad sitting in my fridge waiting to be opened. (I don't drink them by myself, only open with guests).
BrdCdn
I mean IPA should be the longest shelf stable beer.
Atomic2
Just because something is safe to drink doesn't mean its going to taste good. The dominant flavor of IPAs is hops. Especially these modern IPAs, which are very floral and citrus forward, are full of very volatile alpha acids that are rapidly breaking down after brewing. As they break down, the floral and citrus notes fall off quick and quickly turn the beer into a bitter mess.
Anyone that knows anything about beer will tell you that an IPA is the LEAST shelf stable beer. Safe to drink, sure, >>
Atomic2
but it won't taste like its supposed to. The most "shelf stable" beer is arguably a lambic, which can age gracefully for a decade or even more. Barleywines and Imperial Stouts also can last for years. Check out the best before dates on any craft IPA and compare those to the best before dates on other craft beers, like stouts.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
At my work, our house IPA is a new england style. If we do west coast style, we do it as a special run for the crazy-silly hopheads.
hipifreq
Northwest IPA too. The days of uber-bitter IPA have fallen, long live the floral aroma
Stinkleberg
I used to hate IPAs, with the exception of Harpoon, but the ones I’ve tried recently have all been really nice and citrusy.
Rhythmaster
The citra-hops are awesome yes. But I "aquired" the taste for IPA even before they were using these new hops, it took a while, but I love IPA now. All these bitter things take time to get into, coffee, chocolate, IPA, but when you get into it, wow they taste amazing.
treed240z
All beer has it's time and place. Sorry you don't enjoy this one. Also sorry for elitist beer snobby d-bags who love to prattle on about shit no one really cares about. Try a lot of different stuff and like what you like. Stouts are great. IPAs are great. Ambers are great. Lagers are great. Pilsners are great. Kolsches are great. Sours...well, a lot of people like them, and that's great for them.
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treed240z
Corn lager...wild. Who makes that one? Is it any good? Does it taste any different than your typical rice lager?
overfedlonghairedleapinggnome
From Arrowwood Farm a small farm brewery in Accord, New York. https://untappd.com/b/arrowood-farms-cicada/4446136
It's...interesting. Drinkable, but nothing I'd go out of my way for.
overfedlonghairedleapinggnome
overfedlonghairedleapinggnome
In my beer fridge, right now, I have maybe 6 different kinds of IPA, 3 different stouts, an amber, a couple of pilsners, a wheat, a Belgian farmhouse, and even a craft "corn lager."
No sours, though.
n0n53n53
The time for IPA is never, the place is the trash
treed240z
Your opinion is trash.
n0n53n53
edgy like an average IPA drinker
treed240z
Your unironically bandwagon jumping on hating IPAs, which the main reason people truely hate them is because they are so popular. They're popular because people, a lot of people, clearly like them. So to say they have no place anywhere, anytime, is clearly a trash opinion.
n0n53n53
Hating isn't a bandwagon because that shit tastes gross, pretending to like it because they were trendy with hipsters 10 years ago is a bandwagon tho.