Apr 5, 2022 4:13 PM
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Captainplanetmotherfucker
Some of the knives I've seen taken from criminals is fucking wild. Like a zombie survival knife; which was a thick spiral blade.
ojioni
I'd like to see a gun surrender bin here in the States. I could add to my collection.
tmtowtdi
CouldCareLessButDoesnt
Heard this story once about how they couldn't give away a free couch placed in driveway. Put $10 sign on it, stolen immediately
CoachMcgurl
Was that one of Karl Pilkington's stories? Sounds like something he'd say.
Hah too true, no saw it on here somewhere or maybe reddit.
MadSprite
It's like the cannabis disposal bin at the Canadian airports just before the departure gates.
catsandcoke
Scissors?
FutileHumility
fowlersleftfoot
Probably scrap lads nabbed em to weigh in.
LordScuttlebutt
Lol, there's not a knife in there worth stealing. Ooh, scary swiss army knife!
whitewater0034
Exactly, It is 99% likely it was stolen for scrap metal!
theguywiththevoice
Free knives! Genius.
TalkingSnake
Were the locks Made In Britian? v
sweetfeetpete
I’ll just put it over here with the rest of the fire
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
why the fuck would you give up an opinel like that.
HieronymousFlex
Because British knife laws are stupid.
Mustakraken
Instead of publicizing it, they should have thrown a few cool looking ones in with hidden GPS.
ArmedWithANapkin
Man, as a Texan, I thought our policy makers were fucking dumb but this is like FLORIDA level dumb
ProppaGanda
Asuch as it reads like a satirical piece it is, unfortunately, true.
AlaricTheGoth
There definitely ain’t one in Manchester…
gahzeeruh
r/nottheonion
kaoticgirl
I absolutely would have done this, given any opportunity. Good knives are useful but pricey.
I am willing to put a large bet down that it was stolen for scrap metal value over everything else!
Youhavinagiraffe
Although it does kind of imply there's just one bin and all surrendered knives were stolen from it. Rather than the obvious truth that...
...a single bin in a wider scheme got broken in to before the contents had been safely disposed of
colt64
Or the equally silly idea that there are multiple bins, all being drained by criminals the police are powerless to stop.
ThomasThundersword
well all the criminals have all the knives now, what else can the coppers do
TwoCheese
Have a gun fight
shawshankobrien
Seemed like a good idea at the time…
ObiWanShalomi
A lot of things sound good before shit happens :)
RobErtE87
Ok, #1 still a net win. Now only the criminals have weapons( that they had before anyways, nobody's gonna attack with 2-3 knives at a time)
#2 they more likely sold them off to non-criminals or just chucked them away if they're crap rather than re-using them for crime
Fucking stop comparin knives to guns as the headline intends.. guns, if stolen, will be very.. extremely.. likely be reused for crime
Knives on the other hand.. are resold as collectors items if they're a special brand or just dumped if they're scrap. They're not looting
The bins for weapons, they're looting them for value. Knives are literally sold on every street corner for pennies
You can get a fucking "stealth assault knife" shipped to you from china for about half a dollah shipping included from china
len0k
If this happened in Merica, conservatards would say, “They took my knives!!!!!!!”
EroticZombiePants
The criminals would have shot the locks off before stealing them.
r0twhylr
Several years ago, Worcester, Massachusetts tried to ban carrying a knife with a blade over 1.5 inches.
TheBigMcC
In the UK it’s illegal to carry a bladed item over 3 inches in a public place
Anybody remember that scene from Seven?
DEFEND THE 2nd and a half!!!!1!!1!!!!! (the 0.5 stands for knives)
You can take my butter knife my cold dead hands!
SirBobby98121
Because that's what criminals do.
GeminiDreams
Perhaps the criminals installed the bins as well
mikeatike
And used a knife to break in.
donorkort
johneventually1
Kittenman15
Kinda like the Republican-placed postal voting bins in 2020?
MinistryOfSillyTalks
I've been trying to start my criminal career for some time. If only could I find a knife.
You may be in luck
Kronzor
Kinda like when I set up the "free drug testing" booth at the EDM festival.
OverthoughtUnderedited
Yes, those were drugs. Oh shit.
More like "yup these drugs are good, thanks!"
skwint
Well, yes, but they prefer to be called the Conservative Party
1maGoh12
It's not really like conservatives to be disarming people, but I know nothing of British politics so maybe I'm wrong here.
ButLogicallyTho
itypewerdsonline
my only regret is that I have just one upvote to give
AngerySnek
Not if you make an alt
AR33
@ExtraUpvote
ExtraUpvote
+1'd!
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
It should be pointed out that knife crime is handled differently around the different countries, this will be from England ..if it's true.
moonsaves
Should also be noted that as much as people say knife crime in the UK is bad, it's still better per capita than the US.
Dagordae
1/5th, almost. 1.2 vs 5.
AlceCosmico
Okay yes, but you are missing dome of the story there. The bin is set up near the knife angel sculpture. A sculpture that has been
Made out of all the knives that have been used in violent crimes. The bin is there for people to surrender their weapons after seeing the
Devastation it can cause
gerf
That's fucking stupid
lazygrinder
It's art, nobody expects you to understand it.
YoloMcSwagginsteinDaFith
Why would you ever need a 2 inch blade
Tyrann01
This is the UK. If it isn't nailed down, it WILL be stolen. If it is nailed down, it will take a bit longer for someone to remove the nails.
BlueSheep
What’s the story with all the scissors, scissors is illegal in UK now ?
goudist
Oi, you got a loicense for 'at bin?
SmilinSloth
Oi, why you puttin your rubbish bin on mah property, don't make me call the council.
upfr0mhere
Technically a locked bin full of knives would be legal while a single pocket knife with a blade over 3 inches in your pocket is not
HunglikeaHamster
I have for this one..
KitchenComandante
What do you mean "this one?"
BadPunsAplenty
Security on that bin just didn't cut it...
SpaceSphere
Hah!
jjw9
Bobbies got bobbed!
They got nicked!
soulman901
I wonder if someone got the point
Rookie8286
They’re depositing scissors now? Who in a sane world views scissors as a dangerous weapon?
Thesaya
I think they got that pic from an airport customs bin.
beziot
I've seen enough movies to know a spoon is a deadly weapon.
thosebahsturds86
You haven’t met my mother’s family.
Illendor
Scissors, kitchen knives, craft knives, multi-tools, a fucking Opinel for fucks sake.. Nothing in that image should be considered dangerous!
TheNLK
Yeah to be perfectly honest with you, people try too hard to think it's weapons. I'd take a bat over a knife in a fight.
ShenanigansForHireExperiencedBeerTasterAndCraicFacilitator
Lemme just show ye...
Waaaaghhumbug
Wipe the butter off them and put them away.
Good grief.....
That boggles my mind.
As a fat person, I'd feel safer from the butter cravings
Grudgebearingmidget
.....those are butter knives.......welp that's just proof ya'll are fucked
CatBeagler
Why are there scissors and allen wrenches in the bin
BigSwede7403
Concidering the police once put up a couple of spoons among "confiscated knifes" on a picture...
VenomSnek
Those cops might've played knifey-spoony before.
I assume its a stock photo?
Chromeshack
Could do a lot to stop knife crime by legalizing guns.
JamBarn
I'd love to see this introduced as a parody.
WalksWithNoFear
Could we also target crime instead of just the tool of crime?
BaconBoy7
The American way
FirstThingThatCameToMind
She swallowed the spider to eat the fly, she swallowed the bird to catch the spider, she swallowed the cat to catch the bird...
will0213
Yes indeed, by turning knife crime into gun crime
Krossis
ChalkCoatedDonut
Then install Gun Surrender Bins to reduce gun crimes.
CJAW
No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death
I don't know what this means, but it's probably right.
https://youtu.be/3f5viRoaZNw
Grimmy32
BryanLaserEpee
literallymike
Or supplying "gun bins."
Alpine262
Knife fights are nastier than shoot outs but innocent people dont get caught in the crossfire.
adognamedpumpkin
Fellow American, how do you do?
IronicDancing
There was an old lady who swallowed a knife...
cabbege0801908
USA had 1739 deaths caused by knife crime in 2021.
*2019
Atomsk
Also legalising nukes would prevent a lot of gun related violence!
Malz42
Guns are legal here, I own a pair.
SwiftyGuy
And then stop gun crime by legalizing IEDs… wait, that might be too much.. or not…
Kittynomnoms
Or by giving the good guys knives! When someone goes on a mass stabbing spree, you want a good knife-wielding man there to stop em!
Copaceiculapte
O_o:-$O_o:-$O_oO_o:-$;-);-);-):-[:-[=;-)_:-$=:-[=_=:-$;-):-$;-);-);-);-);-);-):-$:-$;-):-$;-):-$:-[:-=_=;-);-):-[=_=;-):-$:-$:-$:-$:-$
ScourgeOfAges
#makeswordslegalagain
The guy with the narwhal horn put work in
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
Which is why spears were more prevalent than swords in medieval armies.
cjandstuff
Probably half the guys here already carry knives. How useful they'd be in a knife fight though, is debatable.
zebdaPandaRunner
And that's the point
Not if America is anything to judge by. The US has more violent knife crime than the US per capita ON TOP OF all the gun crime
GrumpyOldMillennial
America is just better than the UK, the statistics don't lie! Lol
ImNotTaylorSwift
Jesus, the US has more knife crime than the US? That must be a lot.
Rengii
I just looked it up and the only ones with more are the US!
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Solve the gun crime by legalizing cannons.
Swordguy
Cannons are completely legal as long as they're a black powder design and the shell doesn't explode. Not even a tax stamp or surcharge.
You son of a bitch, I'm in
Distractus
Solve the gun crime by legalizing assassins
InTangier
Solve the cannon crime problem by legalizing attack helicopters
OvertleyBadpickuplines
Solve the cannon crime by legalizing rockets
Jallenallen
Solve the rocket crime by legalizing space lasers
ConvoluteNZ
I feel like we either skipped the unclear option, or somehow space lasers raining death from above are slightly better?
Personally I find the cannon more suitable for use as an artillery weapon. For CQC I use a musket as the Founding Father's intended
Could I use a cannon loaded with grapeshot as a home defense weapon?
Sure.
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
Tally ho, lads!
Goldmarble
They are legal in several states. Just need to pay and get checked to own a "Destructive Device" and pay some extra taxes on it.
I need to save up and get an AA autocannon. 2 stamps but worth it for those pesky pigeons.
Expect the gun to cost in excess of $30k, and each round to be $20+
The one I saw at auction, twin Bofors 40mm with carriage, was 500k.
224 knife deaths 2021 in the UK compared to 20,726 gun deaths 2021 USA. This includes 693 mass shooting incidents. Shameful
Einherion
It is shameful. Those knife deaths are rookie rumbers. Gotta pump them up!
yogurtgoblin
Scary amount of gun crime in the UK these last couple of years
35 uk gun homicides in 2021. So approx 150 when prorated to US population size.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
That definition of "mass shooting" makes 3 or more people injured a "mass shooting. The actual number per DOJ definition is under 40/year.
Gayforbae
Consider the fact that England is about the size of Alabama when you use those numbers.
Sure sure, but keep in mind more people live near Atlanta GA than live in the whole state of Alabama.
HellFireGrunt
It should be noted that a mass shooting is considered to be 3 or more people.
Schoonbot
What are these numbers?! Per Capita bud.
EpsteinsWeenieHutJuniors
Absolutely shameful! Those are rooky numbers
oneoldman
Yeah, Brits got a lot of catching up to do
gypsyspot
41,000 (selected) offences involving a knife or sharp instrument in England and Wales in year ending may 2021 Guns are just more efficient
sorry, ending march 2021*. anyway, more gun deaths in us because guns are better at killing, not for lack of trying w/ knives in the UK
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/
n0n53n53
The UK is a little smaller the the USA
Yes. Multiply the knife murder by 5. The US’s homicide rate is about 4.5 that of the UKs.
yoyo42
A LOT smaller, but still 1/5 the population. More densely packed, so more irritable all the time too.
Lethous
Even multiplying the knife deaths by 5 scale population is still an insane difference. 1/10th our gun deaths.
Read the suicide points. Not even close to our homicides.
xxdayoffatexx
Sarcasm is a very powerful tool that goes over the uneducated peoples heads
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
"But the highest form of intelligence" - Oscar Wilde --- At least finish the quote?
He was being sarcastic.
I'm not sure Americans realize how seriously other countries take an issue before it gets to the level Americans find perfectly acceptable.
LordNergal
Most of those gun deaths were suicides. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
Suicide by knife is way more complicated. Higher survival rate and less instant.
Poison and jumping to your death are more common when firearms are not an option.
KrampusCopia
That's so much better. Thank goodness only sad people died...
It's a mental healthcare crisis, not a gun control issue. Resolve the mental healthcare problem, gun deaths will drop drastically.
Nagodreth
Most other countries have shit mental healthcare yet orders of magnitude less gun violence.
This is true. There will still be plenty of gun deaths tho.
DavidBrooker
Gun deaths in 2021, per the CDC, broke down as 38,390 total deaths, of which 13,958 were homicides and 24,432 suicides.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
It's way easier to shoot yourself because other people tend to run around.
why would the Center for Disease Control be logging gun deaths? You got any o dat sauce?
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
Cdc is an epidemiology center it deals with a wide array of medical and social issues
The CDC considers it a public health issue. The data I assume they're referencing is here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm
WorthEveryPenny
A public health issue the gop made it illegal for them to study for prevention. They only log numbers.
Here's a table: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/leading_causes_of_injury_deaths_highlighting_violence_2018-508.pdf 1/2
Small errata though: data is from 2018, it was *published* 2021. The CDC tracks all mortality in the United States. Trauma, including 2/3
Captainplanetmotherfucker
Some of the knives I've seen taken from criminals is fucking wild. Like a zombie survival knife; which was a thick spiral blade.
ojioni
I'd like to see a gun surrender bin here in the States. I could add to my collection.
tmtowtdi
CouldCareLessButDoesnt
Heard this story once about how they couldn't give away a free couch placed in driveway. Put $10 sign on it, stolen immediately
CoachMcgurl
Was that one of Karl Pilkington's stories? Sounds like something he'd say.
CouldCareLessButDoesnt
Hah too true, no saw it on here somewhere or maybe reddit.
MadSprite
It's like the cannabis disposal bin at the Canadian airports just before the departure gates.
catsandcoke
Scissors?
FutileHumility
fowlersleftfoot
Probably scrap lads nabbed em to weigh in.
LordScuttlebutt
Lol, there's not a knife in there worth stealing. Ooh, scary swiss army knife!
whitewater0034
Exactly, It is 99% likely it was stolen for scrap metal!
theguywiththevoice
Free knives! Genius.
TalkingSnake
Were the locks Made In Britian?
v
sweetfeetpete
I’ll just put it over here with the rest of the fire
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
why the fuck would you give up an opinel like that.
HieronymousFlex
Because British knife laws are stupid.
Mustakraken
Instead of publicizing it, they should have thrown a few cool looking ones in with hidden GPS.
ArmedWithANapkin
Man, as a Texan, I thought our policy makers were fucking dumb but this is like FLORIDA level dumb
ProppaGanda
Asuch as it reads like a satirical piece it is, unfortunately, true.
AlaricTheGoth
There definitely ain’t one in Manchester…
gahzeeruh
r/nottheonion
kaoticgirl
I absolutely would have done this, given any opportunity. Good knives are useful but pricey.
whitewater0034
I am willing to put a large bet down that it was stolen for scrap metal value over everything else!
Youhavinagiraffe
Although it does kind of imply there's just one bin and all surrendered knives were stolen from it. Rather than the obvious truth that...
Youhavinagiraffe
...a single bin in a wider scheme got broken in to before the contents had been safely disposed of
colt64
Or the equally silly idea that there are multiple bins, all being drained by criminals the police are powerless to stop.
ThomasThundersword
well all the criminals have all the knives now, what else can the coppers do
TwoCheese
Have a gun fight
shawshankobrien
Seemed like a good idea at the time…
ObiWanShalomi
A lot of things sound good before shit happens :)
RobErtE87
Ok, #1 still a net win. Now only the criminals have weapons( that they had before anyways, nobody's gonna attack with 2-3 knives at a time)
RobErtE87
#2 they more likely sold them off to non-criminals or just chucked them away if they're crap rather than re-using them for crime
RobErtE87
Fucking stop comparin knives to guns as the headline intends.. guns, if stolen, will be very.. extremely.. likely be reused for crime
RobErtE87
Knives on the other hand.. are resold as collectors items if they're a special brand or just dumped if they're scrap. They're not looting
RobErtE87
The bins for weapons, they're looting them for value. Knives are literally sold on every street corner for pennies
RobErtE87
You can get a fucking "stealth assault knife" shipped to you from china for about half a dollah shipping included from china
len0k
If this happened in Merica, conservatards would say, “They took my knives!!!!!!!”
EroticZombiePants
The criminals would have shot the locks off before stealing them.
r0twhylr
Several years ago, Worcester, Massachusetts tried to ban carrying a knife with a blade over 1.5 inches.
TheBigMcC
In the UK it’s illegal to carry a bladed item over 3 inches in a public place
len0k
Anybody remember that scene from Seven?
ObiWanShalomi
DEFEND THE 2nd and a half!!!!1!!1!!!!! (the 0.5 stands for knives)
len0k
You can take my butter knife my cold dead hands!
SirBobby98121
Because that's what criminals do.
GeminiDreams
Perhaps the criminals installed the bins as well
mikeatike
And used a knife to break in.
donorkort
johneventually1
Kittenman15
Kinda like the Republican-placed postal voting bins in 2020?
MinistryOfSillyTalks
I've been trying to start my criminal career for some time. If only could I find a knife.
GeminiDreams
You may be in luck
Kronzor
Kinda like when I set up the "free drug testing" booth at the EDM festival.
OverthoughtUnderedited
Yes, those were drugs. Oh shit.
Kronzor
More like "yup these drugs are good, thanks!"
skwint
Well, yes, but they prefer to be called the Conservative Party
1maGoh12
It's not really like conservatives to be disarming people, but I know nothing of British politics so maybe I'm wrong here.
ButLogicallyTho
itypewerdsonline
my only regret is that I have just one upvote to give
AngerySnek
Not if you make an alt
AR33
@ExtraUpvote
ExtraUpvote
+1'd!
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
It should be pointed out that knife crime is handled differently around the different countries, this will be from England ..if it's true.
moonsaves
Should also be noted that as much as people say knife crime in the UK is bad, it's still better per capita than the US.
Dagordae
1/5th, almost. 1.2 vs 5.
AlceCosmico
Okay yes, but you are missing dome of the story there. The bin is set up near the knife angel sculpture. A sculpture that has been
AlceCosmico
Made out of all the knives that have been used in violent crimes. The bin is there for people to surrender their weapons after seeing the
AlceCosmico
Devastation it can cause
gerf
That's fucking stupid
lazygrinder
It's art, nobody expects you to understand it.
YoloMcSwagginsteinDaFith
Why would you ever need a 2 inch blade
Tyrann01
This is the UK. If it isn't nailed down, it WILL be stolen. If it is nailed down, it will take a bit longer for someone to remove the nails.
BlueSheep
What’s the story with all the scissors, scissors is illegal in UK now ?
goudist
Oi, you got a loicense for 'at bin?
SmilinSloth
Oi, why you puttin your rubbish bin on mah property, don't make me call the council.
upfr0mhere
Technically a locked bin full of knives would be legal while a single pocket knife with a blade over 3 inches in your pocket is not
HunglikeaHamster
I have for this one..
KitchenComandante
What do you mean "this one?"
BadPunsAplenty
Security on that bin just didn't cut it...
SpaceSphere
ObiWanShalomi
Hah!
jjw9
Bobbies got bobbed!
BadPunsAplenty
They got nicked!
soulman901
I wonder if someone got the point
Rookie8286
They’re depositing scissors now? Who in a sane world views scissors as a dangerous weapon?
Thesaya
I think they got that pic from an airport customs bin.
beziot
I've seen enough movies to know a spoon is a deadly weapon.
thosebahsturds86
You haven’t met my mother’s family.
Illendor
Scissors, kitchen knives, craft knives, multi-tools, a fucking Opinel for fucks sake.. Nothing in that image should be considered dangerous!
TheNLK
Yeah to be perfectly honest with you, people try too hard to think it's weapons. I'd take a bat over a knife in a fight.
ShenanigansForHireExperiencedBeerTasterAndCraicFacilitator
Lemme just show ye...
Waaaaghhumbug
Wipe the butter off them and put them away.
ObiWanShalomi
Good grief.....
Rookie8286
That boggles my mind.
gerf
As a fat person, I'd feel safer from the butter cravings
Grudgebearingmidget
.....those are butter knives.......welp that's just proof ya'll are fucked
CatBeagler
Why are there scissors and allen wrenches in the bin
BigSwede7403
Concidering the police once put up a couple of spoons among "confiscated knifes" on a picture...
VenomSnek
Those cops might've played knifey-spoony before.
Waaaaghhumbug
I assume its a stock photo?
Chromeshack
Could do a lot to stop knife crime by legalizing guns.
JamBarn
I'd love to see this introduced as a parody.
WalksWithNoFear
Could we also target crime instead of just the tool of crime?
BaconBoy7
The American way
FirstThingThatCameToMind
She swallowed the spider to eat the fly, she swallowed the bird to catch the spider, she swallowed the cat to catch the bird...
will0213
Yes indeed, by turning knife crime into gun crime
Krossis
ChalkCoatedDonut
Then install Gun Surrender Bins to reduce gun crimes.
CJAW
No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death
Chromeshack
I don't know what this means, but it's probably right.
CJAW
https://youtu.be/3f5viRoaZNw
Grimmy32
BryanLaserEpee
literallymike
Or supplying "gun bins."
Alpine262
Knife fights are nastier than shoot outs but innocent people dont get caught in the crossfire.
adognamedpumpkin
Fellow American, how do you do?
IronicDancing
There was an old lady who swallowed a knife...
cabbege0801908
USA had 1739 deaths caused by knife crime in 2021.
cabbege0801908
*2019
Atomsk
Also legalising nukes would prevent a lot of gun related violence!
Malz42
Guns are legal here, I own a pair.
SwiftyGuy
And then stop gun crime by legalizing IEDs… wait, that might be too much.. or not…
Kittynomnoms
Or by giving the good guys knives! When someone goes on a mass stabbing spree, you want a good knife-wielding man there to stop em!
Copaceiculapte
O_o:-$O_o:-$O_oO_o:-$;-);-);-):-[:-[=;-)_:-$=:-[=_=:-$;-):-$;-);-);-);-);-);-):-$:-$;-):-$;-):-$:-[:-=_=;-);-):-[=_=;-):-$:-$:-$:-$:-$
ScourgeOfAges
#makeswordslegalagain
Chromeshack
The guy with the narwhal horn put work in
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
Which is why spears were more prevalent than swords in medieval armies.
cjandstuff
Probably half the guys here already carry knives. How useful they'd be in a knife fight though, is debatable.
zebdaPandaRunner
And that's the point
Youhavinagiraffe
Not if America is anything to judge by. The US has more violent knife crime than the US per capita ON TOP OF all the gun crime
GrumpyOldMillennial
America is just better than the UK, the statistics don't lie! Lol
ImNotTaylorSwift
Jesus, the US has more knife crime than the US? That must be a lot.
Rengii
I just looked it up and the only ones with more are the US!
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Solve the gun crime by legalizing cannons.
Swordguy
Cannons are completely legal as long as they're a black powder design and the shell doesn't explode. Not even a tax stamp or surcharge.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
You son of a bitch, I'm in
Distractus
Solve the gun crime by legalizing assassins
InTangier
Solve the cannon crime problem by legalizing attack helicopters
OvertleyBadpickuplines
Solve the cannon crime by legalizing rockets
Jallenallen
Solve the rocket crime by legalizing space lasers
ConvoluteNZ
I feel like we either skipped the unclear option, or somehow space lasers raining death from above are slightly better?
WalksWithNoFear
Personally I find the cannon more suitable for use as an artillery weapon. For CQC I use a musket as the Founding Father's intended
Chromeshack
Could I use a cannon loaded with grapeshot as a home defense weapon?
WalksWithNoFear
Sure.
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
Tally ho, lads!
Goldmarble
They are legal in several states. Just need to pay and get checked to own a "Destructive Device" and pay some extra taxes on it.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I need to save up and get an AA autocannon. 2 stamps but worth it for those pesky pigeons.
Goldmarble
Expect the gun to cost in excess of $30k, and each round to be $20+
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
The one I saw at auction, twin Bofors 40mm with carriage, was 500k.
TheBigMcC
224 knife deaths 2021 in the UK compared to 20,726 gun deaths 2021 USA. This includes 693 mass shooting incidents. Shameful
Einherion
It is shameful. Those knife deaths are rookie rumbers. Gotta pump them up!
yogurtgoblin
Scary amount of gun crime in the UK these last couple of years
TheBigMcC
35 uk gun homicides in 2021. So approx 150 when prorated to US population size.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
That definition of "mass shooting" makes 3 or more people injured a "mass shooting. The actual number per DOJ definition is under 40/year.
Gayforbae
Consider the fact that England is about the size of Alabama when you use those numbers.
Einherion
Sure sure, but keep in mind more people live near Atlanta GA than live in the whole state of Alabama.
HellFireGrunt
It should be noted that a mass shooting is considered to be 3 or more people.
Schoonbot
What are these numbers?! Per Capita bud.
EpsteinsWeenieHutJuniors
Absolutely shameful! Those are rooky numbers
oneoldman
Yeah, Brits got a lot of catching up to do
gypsyspot
41,000 (selected) offences involving a knife or sharp instrument in England and Wales in year ending may 2021 Guns are just more efficient
gypsyspot
sorry, ending march 2021*. anyway, more gun deaths in us because guns are better at killing, not for lack of trying w/ knives in the UK
gypsyspot
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/
n0n53n53
The UK is a little smaller the the USA
Dagordae
Yes. Multiply the knife murder by 5. The US’s homicide rate is about 4.5 that of the UKs.
yoyo42
A LOT smaller, but still 1/5 the population. More densely packed, so more irritable all the time too.
Lethous
Even multiplying the knife deaths by 5 scale population is still an insane difference. 1/10th our gun deaths.
Schoonbot
Read the suicide points. Not even close to our homicides.
xxdayoffatexx
Sarcasm is a very powerful tool that goes over the uneducated peoples heads
lazygrinder
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
xxdayoffatexx
"But the highest form of intelligence" - Oscar Wilde --- At least finish the quote?
lazygrinder
He was being sarcastic.
InTangier
I'm not sure Americans realize how seriously other countries take an issue before it gets to the level Americans find perfectly acceptable.
LordNergal
Most of those gun deaths were suicides. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
Lethous
Suicide by knife is way more complicated. Higher survival rate and less instant.
LordNergal
Poison and jumping to your death are more common when firearms are not an option.
KrampusCopia
That's so much better. Thank goodness only sad people died...
LordNergal
It's a mental healthcare crisis, not a gun control issue. Resolve the mental healthcare problem, gun deaths will drop drastically.
Nagodreth
Most other countries have shit mental healthcare yet orders of magnitude less gun violence.
KrampusCopia
This is true. There will still be plenty of gun deaths tho.
DavidBrooker
Gun deaths in 2021, per the CDC, broke down as 38,390 total deaths, of which 13,958 were homicides and 24,432 suicides.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
It's way easier to shoot yourself because other people tend to run around.
gahzeeruh
why would the Center for Disease Control be logging gun deaths? You got any o dat sauce?
IamTheBestAtDonutEating
Cdc is an epidemiology center it deals with a wide array of medical and social issues
HieronymousFlex
The CDC considers it a public health issue. The data I assume they're referencing is here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm
WorthEveryPenny
A public health issue the gop made it illegal for them to study for prevention. They only log numbers.
DavidBrooker
Here's a table: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/leading_causes_of_injury_deaths_highlighting_violence_2018-508.pdf 1/2
DavidBrooker
Small errata though: data is from 2018, it was *published* 2021. The CDC tracks all mortality in the United States. Trauma, including 2/3