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NeverSplitTheParty
Looks like we’ll have to kill cable AGAIN.
aboxfullofpinecones
While NOT paying fucking taxes
Andied
Then dont cut service time and time again. We have to share multiple accounts different places just to have 1 proper service.
schwanzwurst
Create another streaming platform with exclusive content and I'll show you piracy.
cjandstuff
We spent generations teaching kids to share. Now we're sharing, and you want us to stop. ?
bpswell
Does anyone remember when you would buy vhs and dvds to watch movies and you could just let your friends borrow them to watch?
theyar
That has nothing to do with this.
MegaMufflon
The possibility to sell a product an infinite number of times is theft in the same way as piracy is.
Misha49
Wait, how is that piracy?
theyar
Seriously?
Misha49
Yes, piracy is generally reserved for downloading, not streaming
theyar
Ok so technically yes it is theft of service, not piracy. Theft of service is worse; it's a more tangible thing you're stealing.
prepeymad
Fuckem
ManicYEEtPressive
I'm paying 16$ a month for Netflix you best believe I'm gonna abuse your platform
nonCanadianGoose
I have a stream circle, each person has 1-2 services and we all share accounts so it’s like we have all of them
SnakuPlisskin
Same. Sister's Netflix, In-laws' Hulu, and our Disney+. And everybody has Amazon Prime for the shipping.
wiltsjunk
It's like a modern day Republic of Pirates.
theyar
Sweet, organized fraud.
MoundofVenus
And the VCR was going to destroy the movie industry.
SteveTheEgg
You make me pay extra for HD and an extra stream, I'm going to use the extra stream.
LovelyMover
Maybe if they didn’t jack up the prices every 3 months peeps maybe a bit more understanding. Oh & stop producing utter shit 90% of the time
Markamanic
Looking at you Netflix. Netflix original used to be a stamp of quality
TheRealJoeHasenguy
I think the people who are getting Disney+ are dooming us to pay a piece meal sub for everything. Mark my words....
ratboy1896
It’s basically returning to the Cable model...paying extra for the advanced packages.
pardontheincredulity
You mean like paying separate subs for Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, and FOX content? Oh wait. . .
ASquare
Oh God I hate those amazing streaming services they sell us for $10 let's go back to $130 cable! Wahhh
Mctestecles
Amazing? What will you say when you meet jesus? You're fucked, you spent amazing on an unspecified streaming service. P2P might be amazing.
Mudman2999
Lmao oh no people use exclamatory remarks more than me, what will they say when they meet someone who died 2000 years ago in a fakeafterlife
Mudman2999
And if you did just say this is amazing! When you metJesus then you really don’t have any high ground in terms of using language effectively
Mctestecles
I said peer to peer might be. And It might. Jesus knows that it's over since I have the high ground.
Ihatedecidingonausername
That's there business model. Hook us for cheap, then continually raise the prices.
DiarmuidRyan
Can't feel guilty about sharing passwords because o don't have any. Harrrrr hoist the jolly rodger. I be a pirate http://i.imgur.com/mvyW
theyar
At least you're being honest about your theft.
LivingDeadX
That's not piracy... that's sharing, and sharing is caring.
bootleg1931
Pirate for life.
GuW69
One has the movies, another has the series, a third has the sports, no wonder people share accounts
Sunseteclipse
The movies arrive on my server as if carried by a giant wave or flood...a torrent of entertainment some might say
wiltsjunk
Lol
PleaseLeave
I dont understand how its piracy if i already pay for 4 screens to view the shows from
DickVergaman
It's copyrighted material. You are allowed to "copy" it only under a license that they wrote and you accepted.
PleaseLeave
That doesnt answer my question, if i pay for 4 screens, why cant i let my family/friends use the 3 screens i dont use
theyar
You paid for four screens for you and the members of your household. Again, it's pretty simple. If they aren't on your same power, 1/?
theyar
water, rent, Internet, etc., then they shouldn't be on your same steaming account. 2/2
DickVergaman
You don't "pay for 4 screens". You pay for what's in the agreement. If it has limitations or restrictions, they limit your legal rights.
Pokedmeinthecoconut
Reminds me of the bullshit anti piracy ads trying to stop people for torrenting movies. Fuck you, you made millions at the theater.
MrBill1
You should just pay your bills and get rid of any extra money you have, otherwise you are just being greedy, no one deserves profit!
DickRogers
The people consuming (pirating) this stuff, the rapidly disintergrating middle class, cant afford to pay their bills, and will live most 1/2
DickRogers
of their lives in the red, in debt. None of us are making a profit, but Bezos and Iger sure are. Fuck em 2/2
Ialwayspick69whenipickajerseynumber
What is even going on here? Are we really gonna start pretending that people stealing content have the moral high ground here?
theyar
Someone, or some group pretending to be someones, is arguing really hard here that stealing content is totally the norm and justified.
justLookingFromDetroit
I am the account holder in my circle, and the people sharing are my retired parents and my minor children. Give us more than 4 logins.
DamnedAustin
Yes. People want all the content, but god forbid the creators and hosts of that content get money for it. It's weird.
Zap117
Not to mention that every fucking company has decided to have their own streaming service. 2-3 is a good number no one wants to pay for 15
DamnedAustin
Heaven forbid you should have to make a choice!
Ghalagor
Only one or two good shows you want to watch per streaming service? Better pay for them all!
DamnedAustin
Or just find a healthy way to deal with that FOMO. If a service's content isn't sufficient for you to pay for it, then don't pay for it. (1)
DamnedAustin
If you just can't fathom the thought of your life without seeing how your show goes, then fork over the money. (2/2)
Ghalagor
I don't have a fear of missing out, just can't afford paying for three or more streaming services and am quite satisfied with Sky.
Bystandr
It is NOT piracy to lend your DVD to your friend. It is also not piracy to share your password as long as only one person watches at a
Bystandr
Should define : "as long as only one streaming instance occurs at a time" ** - there may still be more than one person in your living room.
Bystandr
time. Admission is paid, and once paid, admission cannot be revoked just because someone else might be watching. This is because of the
Bystandr
downstream connotations- what happens when you have friends over that didnt pay for streaming? Are they not allowed to watch your TV? When
Bystandr
you move to a different (local same country) position are you not allowed to watch there? New computer? There are legal ramifications to
Bystandr
allowing companies these powers in sale, and it is in public interest to vigorously defend them on behalf of consumers (just as important as
Bystandr
allowing people a backup of tapes and DVDs in the event of damage of the original).
Quipod
I love these comments trying to rationalize what is essentially stealing.
n0gal
It's like stealing, in the sense that I stole your car but it's simultaneously still in your driveway and never left.
Quipod
No its stealing in the sense you are taking a service without paying for it.
MrBill1
No, it's being a really cool edgy pirate! Because everything should be free and businesses have the nerve to charge people for things!!!
Rabarber
Ok, boomer
MrBill1
Whenever I see "Ok Boomer" I assume the person is a complete idiot that cant complete a thought by themselves (no where near Boomer btw)
n0gal
Ah, the Silent Generation speaks up finally.
DickRogers
Username cheques out
MrBill1
Same
ObliqueRay
Every single time the movie industry gets to charge money, they ALWAYS get greedy as fuck. Way I see it pirating keeps the balance.
MrBill1
And the food industry, and utilities, and clothing...why do businesses charge money for things, it's not faaaiiiir.
ObliqueRay
There's a difference between charging you money and trying to take you for all they can.
MrBill1
If $7.00 is all you have maybe skip the streaming services altogether for now.
ObliqueRay
I don't think you understand how this works.
AoShin
Most people prefer to pay reasonable money for reasonable service. It's when the service does not reflect the charge that they pirate.
MrBill1
$7.00 is outrageous!!!
wiltsjunk
Most streaming services are pretty cheap
Carrotsmademeblind
Ha ha f@#k them share share an share again. ??
ImmediateTable
Fathashk?
Sugarcrotch
for those wondering the censored word it is fork
Brythefryguy
Fuck, that is some intense language.
iamdanman
It’s okay to say fuck here
Iwouldbenick
please seed
ThiccOrTreat
Fuck censorship
GirthBrookss
What an irrelevant thing to say.
Dongskanker
We're mostly adults here, you can type out fuck
SnakuPlisskin
*gasp* He said the 'f' word!
Carrotsmademeblind
Woah piracy I allow but put expletives a no no?
theyar
And pay for services you use.
MoonPiesNcurlyFries
Not only do I share but i upgraded so that me and my brother (who lives in Florida) can watch at the same time. I also share with my kid.
YouL0stTheGame
Wait, are they seriously saying that sharing passwords is piracy? That’s like saying watching a dvd movie with your friends is piracy
GFYandyourstupidrequirements
Well, no. Sharing your password is more like burning a copy of a DVD and giving it to your friend.
PyroAvok
Didn't they almost try that with the Kinect? It'd stop the video if there were more than 4 people in the room watching the movie?
Raecracy123abc
No the REAL issue is someone buys a Netfilx account and [using tech] sells access to like entire country of Nigeria.
BigBag0Crabs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xuxO6CZptck
Sugarcrotch
what a strange turn of events the world has taken..
PowerToAllThePeople
What a *capitalist* turn of events the world has taken..
hanmerhack
DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!
CompletelyUniqueUsername
They have actually had lawsuits over exactly that. They lost but it was a close call.
IamNotAshamed
They are not. They just regularly state that it's cutting their profits.
alecdshope
If they could make it piracy they would. Showing that DVD to too many friends at once actually is illegal ("licensed for private home use")
WoodfolkFae
Wasnt there an adventure time episode about that?
gadlen
Or making DVD copies of your whole video library and giving one to everyone you pass on the street
10tacles
In that case just go full piracy!
potshot
No they aren't. They don't want people to do so(obviously) but they haven't claimed it's illegal or anything like that.
Aztekke
Yoh wouldnt download a car
ThePenisEnthusiast
We both know you're wrong.
Obijesus
Would if I could
SatoriEnlightenment
3d printed car . Jpg
omglandshark
Bitch, you don't know me. If I could access your medical records I'd download a perfect replica and use you as a novelty hat stand.
Tairu8
It’s not quite the same. With physical media you both have to be in the same room in order to watch it together. This is closer to making a
Tairu8
functioning copy for them to just have without paying for it. People have done stuff like that for years but it’s never been allowed, there
Tairu8
just isn’t really a way to crack down on someone who only copies stuff for a few people
AlmostScientist
That's how gaming companies have been going about things for a while. That's why EA has multiplayer passes for each game.
Aguineapigtrickedme
They got rid of those when they thought that was going to be how Xbox One worked. Then Microsoft dropped it.
ICreatedThisAccountToPostPicsOfMyTwoCats
They havent had those in almost a decade. Clearly you don't play EA Games
AlmostScientist
I stopped buying their stuff when it happened. Switched to PC
Permi
Damn someone is still living in the year 2011.
Ceracuse
Haven't played anything EA in a while... You actually have to pay to enter matchmaking??
caedescorvidus
"Season Pass" is the term most of these crap games use
Canteu
No. It's more, pay for the pass to earn cosmetics and stuff as you play. THey really only do it with Apex now.
theyar
I'm pretty sure it's not the same thing.
BlackBiscuit
"Hey dude, can i watch that DVD of Bad Boys 2 you've got?" "Sorry man... you haven't bought it." Not the same, but pretty fucking close.
theyar
Actually entirely different. We're talking about simultaneous access to a whole library.
BlackBiscuit
Good point, sir. I concede.
YouL0stTheGame
They’re both sharing entertainment that you bought with other people who haven’t bought it
rudejohn
If I lend you my DVD, I can't also watch it. If i give you my streaming password, I've created duplicate access to the entire catalog.
bearjew1990
I don't know why people who are right get downvoted so much here. You didn't even make a stance on anything, just pointed out how its
bearjew1990
Different. Imgur users have gone to hell
Blutsaugher
It's funny how you omitted you can't watch streams simultaneously. Also, dvd copies are permanent, subscriptions aren't.
Blutsaugher
I agree they're not the same thing, but they're definitely shittier. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
theyar
This discussion is literally about simultaneous streaming access.
TobyFromHumanResources
How can you sell different tiered subscriptions with different numbers of SIMULTANEOUS uses and not think this was going to happen?
SpecialProjectY
Consoles do that with exclusives past couple decades, you buying a PC and a couple gaming system works every couple years. Problem?
IamNotAshamed
Those plans were implemented as a response to the account sharing, to make at least some more money off it.
Raecracy123abc
This is a click bait issue.The real issue streaming services are tackling are companies selling access to thousands of ppl through 1 login
tornadosandwich
What they could do is offer and even cheaper option that doesn’t allow more than one device to stream at once or multiple profiles.
Ruik
Just selling the old cable/satellite tv packages back to you, minus commercials.
Ozarck
"minus commercials." For now.
Ruik
Exactly.
TobyFromHumanResources
Oh man when I watch ripped US torrents and there are ads INSIDE the show, popping up on the bottom etc... How do you all deal with it
Ruik
I've avoided TV for over a decade because of commercials. If it weren't for adblock plus and paid streaming, I'd be far out of the loop.
OishiiO
And why cant i buy UHD and HD streaming only for one user
TobyFromHumanResources
Well there it is.
capillano
The people that designed it assumed everyone has 8 TVs in 19 different rooms and two more near the pool and tennis court like they have
armagetz
More like this is why it happened. Or wait.....you think Netflix and crew said this because OP made a title?
FlyingButtPliers
If my kid goes to college how is that different than them being upstairs as far as they are concerned?
apbadogs
My kids watch my Netflix account, one is away at college and the other is married and lives 6 hours away from us. Still family.
ZircZZ
It's not. Our oldest kid still uses our subscription. She moved out two years ago.
SarcasticComment
Easy. Log everyone off every few months. You will drop a few people caught in a situation where it is too awkward to ask for the pass again.
Lulabel73
Please no. I’m old I can’t remember all these log ons
n0gal
You need a password manager. Keepass is an excellent tool for the job, "keepassxc" is a good client for it for linux/mac/windows.
n0gal
You can sync it to your phone and other devices too. All my passwords are pure random with as many characters as I'm allowed to
n0gal
register with and I don't have to remember any of them.
SarcasticComment
*Log ins, old timer.
Lulabel73
You know I was going to go with that but I thought someone would say log ons is plural. lol.
TobyFromHumanResources
Like, why would I need the option to stream to 4 devices at the same time unless it was 4 different people?
Caesar56
Are you idiot? Think again why.
TobyFromHumanResources
Elmhafudd
4 people in one house hold
Thekindofkindlyman
Because I like to party
overworkeddad
Yep just happens that my daughter is across town in a different house
imgur1stTheory
Some people have kids. Kids are little people that live in your house with you.
AngryDrBanner
I have little people that live in my house.
Woodncookies
Those are Smurfs. First clue: Fuckin blue.
lietotheelderly
Deadlynitro
Why? They're actively reviewing it and discussing about reducing it to 2 max viewers at a time already.
usersubbordercontrol
Solution: download all the videos by just downloading the stream directly
3PiecesOfBread
Solution 2: Torrents
Deadlynitro
Companies such as let's call them Natflax like you to revalidate your download after a few days.
Tairu8
Four people in the same household who want to watch different things. That’s generally why they put that stuff in, not to share with someone
MtMuschmore
Ya people would have been raging forever if you only got one device no matter the plan.
SarcasticComment
Well. There are 2 in my household and we watch things together. If I'm paying for 4, I will trade the 3 logins with other people.
ElbowDeep
Whether is someone in the next room, or the next state, why does it matter if multiple screens are being paid for, still same amount of ppl
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Yeah but netflix has zero password requirements. Mine is a 4 letter password. They know you are going to share.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Sounds like sharing to me, household or not it's one account.
DongSayaDae
"Lemme just watch these 4 movies at the same time on these 4 devices"
OliverClothesoff70
OK, but I travel 50% of my life for work. Do they think my family needs one subscription for my wife & kids & a 2nd subscription for me?
theyar
No, they don't.
Mooki
As long as that machine occasionally appears in the same place as related users it's probably fine. The problem is 100% unrelated users.
wHatThEQuAk
"problem"
potshot
No, you're still a household, even if you aren't presently in the household.
Tairu8
who lives in another state or something.
charlietrundlethegreat
They can kiss my smelly ass I forgot to clean two days ago
BishlamekGurpgork
Don they care, through? DO they make a fuss if I share my 2-user subscription with one person in Idaho?
TobyFromHumanResources
Why should it matter who you share with?
theyar
Because buying a separate account for each member of your household is stupid but separate people with separate lives should have their own.
Sugarcrotch
because they are a business and like any business they want to make as much money as possible
BenjamanFranklin
In the old times. Netflix used to encourage sharing. How times have changed.
tiikuri
It's in the text you clicked "agree" on. You made a deal with Netflix to only share it with people in the same household.
PostNutDepression
If you're paying for four devices, you're paying for four devices.