Aug 11, 2022 4:08 PM
TheRainbowegoSweet007
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3Davideo
"The worst thing so far!"
InHarmsWay
Are you a true Star Wars fan if you don't hate Star Wars?
fortheloveofsloth
Clone Wars and Rebels are widely celebrated by die hard fans. Its not all content they rag on. But the main stream stuff does suck sometimes
TheFastpaws
The fans are toxic as hell but Disney also screws up a ton.
RadasNoir
"Worst thing I've ever done *so far*."
thegreatninjaman
I like star wars, and i dont like some of the newer stuff. Am i being dramatic?
DobbyOneKenobi
Vergenbuurg
Why is Homer dressed like Michael Douglas in "Falling Down"?
goflyblind
wasn't this from the hamster-as-an-astronaut episode? homer was dressing like an apollo-era nasa employee, i think.
geekoffury
Or, the shit they're doing gets a little worse with every iteration.
JonSnowAKAAegonTargaryen
I didn't complain about Star Wars until Disney started releasing their sequels. It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie and was underwhelming.
idowhat
Worst thing that happened - so far
Kiirdel
I've enjoyed the new stuff. I mean dumb things happen, but the amnesia fans have for the old stuff is wild. I still like the originals most.
TheRuckestRick
Say what you will I really enjoyed the obi-wan series.
Sidewaysgts
I felt it was a rough start (with some very questionable moments/scenes), but ended strongly
PeregrinFalconPunch
So did I
KHLP
Star Wars fans talk about Star Wars as if it’s based on true events.
hippy80
I'm thankful for Dave Filoni
HermitBean
Just don't watch them? idk sounds like a very modern and stupid problem to have
Masinx
I think most of the hate is from the fact that they pretty much ran with a legends storyline. And whoever that Katherine kennedy woman was.
And getting rid of a lot of source material that would've made the most recent movies amazing. I do love rogue 1 though ngl.
Vespasian88
There's issues with the movies that have nothing to do with gender or race. I dont care if the next lead is Trans, give them a arc for once.
FajitaJane
NoT My sTaR WaRs
Samidk
Exactly. Its an entire universe. Just make more content. Nothing will be for everyone not everything will be good but everyone deserves to
Enjoy star wars..... Except the holdo maneuver that was just pure trash. And the choreography for the throne room fight. But otherwise
The throne room fight is my favorite fight in the new Star Wars. Especially when Reign in Blood is played over it.
Its flashy and looks cool but from a fight perspective is horribly choreographed and illogical. Several time ray should have just died or
Been sevearly injured and honestly it makes no sense how she fought with a lightsaber vs people trained with odd weapons to fight people
Housemaster
It's like I'm watching you argue with yourself
Becuase its a very long and diverse topic. Long story short i expect consistency and quality but what that quality is can be anything its a
Big open universe with every type of character you could imagine. Just make sure physics and continuity flows. But if you want to make a
Faloopsinarb
anglafro365
https://youtu.be/fIWKMgJs_Gs
zeacorzeppelin10
If you understood his view and work ethic during the OT and compared it to the way he did the prequels, you see a vast change for the worse.
Watch commentary tracks of both series and tell me which one involved more thought and effort.
Dagordae
Also thanks, I shall use this to piss off many manbabies.
As a Blood Ravens fan, you're most welcome.
Vampoodle
Hippity Hoppity stealing your property
Allthatjunk
Lol good one. But I mean no one actually forced Disney to make everything worse.
laboon
thats where you re wrong kiddo
Okay ? How am I wrong here ?
disney and everyone bending over backwards and destroying movies with development hell to appease insane fans who dont deserve good movies
mrprogamer96
Oh, poor poor Disney,/s. Disney has more money then some countries, but go on about how it’s the fan’s fault that the movies were bad.
You may know more than me here, I'm really not a fan.
Lionskull
idk, i watched starwars as an adult, then soon after watched the sequel trilogy. They were shit, rogue one was great, mando was good,>
>boba fett and kenobi were terrible. which is a shame for kenobi, because it was such bad acting, wasting the kenobi IP and Ewan mcgreggor
AdmiralSassbar
Kenobi was awesome because now we have Larry. (auralnauts, youtube, ykwtd)
spiffylookingnerfherder
The love for Rogue One suggests it's not *just* the fans.
morelikeconsham
a) you are correct, it is not *just* the fans, but b) it is also telling that star wars had to distance itself from the jedi/sith conflict
(read: the core conflict of the series) before every fan was happy with it.
freezingpilot
Rogue One was great. it had some issues, but it was very very good.
Exerosp
I'm just seeing the meme as "It's Starwarsfans' fault we got the Disney shit movies".
fun fact it is
Z0op
Definitely not, starwars fans might be bitching an awful lot but the failure of the sequel trilogy lies entirely with executives and >
directors who had no fckin clue what they were doing
barnsandnobel
Im not a huge fan but i dont think any of the movies were unusually bad, especially for a star wars movie. They were all kinda meh tbh.
Lulabel73
I’m old I saw Star Wars in 1977 and I watch everything , some I like better than others but it was always “bad” it’s made for 12 year olds.
RufusPimperton
That's the tragedy of Star Wars fans. Most saw the movies when they were kids and expect them to repeat the magic in adulthood.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Saw it when it came out in 1978 in Germany. I was 10 and I thought I had to like it because my friends liked it.
Ive never been like that.
I was 10 and it lasted until I was 11. I'm okay with the outcome.
JonatasAM
That's why I watch stuff without my friends. Then again I'm glad I introduced Star Wars to my friend
SecondSince
So tired of the SW hate. Like what you like and let others like what they like. You only love the OG ones? Then just watch those.
sarkonas
You can like whatever you want, that's valid, just don't call it good.
IsolatedAsshole
Problem is the only people who seem to hate Star Wars are the people who like Star Wars. I'm an indifferent to it and only see hate within.
MAup
Disneyland galactic star cruiser. Just saying. Check the price and what you get. A ride in a boxtruck xD
AtsaMattaForMe
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harryplt788
Ugh
ExistentialDreadlocks
Well there's your problem
Zoldjah
a study says the more intelligent you are the better you can adapt to changes
PorneliusHubertII
I can adapt to change, doesnt mean i have ro like it.
ilovebigmutts
Ladies and gentlemen, the GQP explained so beautifully.
donkeystothecastle
They're calling it the Grand Qanon Party now? FFS gotta be kidding me. I always thought it would be fun to be in a comedy. Let me out!!!
VirtualNaut
SIGMA920
Change isn't the problem shitty writing and blatant stupidity is.
ohnoitsavikingchick
Unless you're also autistic. Change is horrifying to me.
Guidocat
I did adapt. I used to really like star wars. Now I don't like most of star wars. I guess I'm super fucking smart, eh?
MacallanNeat
This just in: I’m dumb as shit. I mean, I already knew that. But now I’ve got further confirmation from reporter on the street @Zoldjah
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Complaining about stupid crap doesn't mean they didn't adapt
Yep. I usually adapt to these kind of changes by walking and staying away from the subject.
DVSBSTrD
Doesn't mean those changes are any good.
We need to stupify the population then
aight reading teough the comments was a journey I expected. 10/10
sgnight13
I mean we adapted to four years under the Trump administration, doesn't mean anyone should ever let him make decisions ever again
TK421isAFK
Huh. Here I am going through the comments thinking, "I actually really like all of the movies. They each have their own merit." Some 1/2
of these commenters really want to cling to some sense of hate. Fuck all that - just enjoy the movies for what they are - MOVIES. They 2/3
are not some sort of biological extension grafted onto your body by Lucas or Disney - and I say that as a guy who uses a SW user name. 3/3
SouperScott
"Just turn your brain off!"
Versus giving yourself hypertension by over-thinking a fucking movie?
DarkBusterBaron
"Somehow Palpatine returned" nuff said.
TheGreatAtomsk
a change could be not to follow a franchise anymore.
...and that is a wise decision. Like with people - dead franchises should stay dead.
ShiftingPattern
"Adapting to change," is not entirely synonymous with, "Accepting the desecration of a franchise."
"Star Wars got desecrated!"
"We might have been overreacting when we said RotJ, Special Editions, Prequels, Luuke, Clone Wars (movie/seasons1-3) and Christmas...
... Special ruined Star Wars, but *THIS* time we're serious!"
*this post*
thatlamer
"desecration" lmao, what an incredible drama queen.
astrangehop
I read another study that said uncited claims aren't from peer reviewed journals 93 percent of the time
I read another study that said it was actually 87%
TheSwedishCryptid
I read another one that English is actually German but with 2 umbrellas up its butt.
I read somewhere that somehow German is Latin mixed with Barbarish, aka Bar Bar
AustimousPrime
I read a study that reading study's is for big fucking nerds and that everyone should blindly trust strangers on the internet...%
You all owe me 600$ and said you'd pay by September
This seems valid but how can I trust you
Star Wars Stans can't say shit after the death threats they sent to Kelly Marie Tran, and making Ahmed Best Contemplate Suicide.
And the degrees they bullied Jake Lloyd
He quit acting.
AxelTenveils
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Sequels, but god damn that shit(harassment and threats) are fucking criminal. Why the absolute fuck?
I like the sequels, but I feel they were doomed from the start because the Stans are impossible to please and violently vocal when mad.
secondtalon
No one hates Star Wars more than a Star Wars fan.
DrDezz
Weird how pretty much every one love the Mandalorian. Funny how if you treat something with respect people love you for it!
As you yourself admit, pretty much everyone. Lots of people hate Baby Yoda for Minioning up the franchise.
Don’t see it. Never seen any video against it. Sure there some. But attacking the fan constantly is a loosing proposition.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Eh, there are plenty of fans like myself who love most of it and don't really hate anything. Those loud, obnoxious "fans" also moonlight ...
as supposed Marvel fans, and more recently fans of The Sandman. It's the same whiny minority of white/male/straight supremacists who seem...
blissfully unaware of the fact that these franchises have always been very progressive and inclusive for their time. Same with Star Trek.
No True Scotsman fallacy. They aren't "fans", they're fans, same as you.
There are plenty of far-right trolls who make it a sport to hate on franchises that have always been progressive & clearly never read/saw...
the original works on which the sequels or adaptations are based. I've seen all the usual suspects on imdb rant about the adaptation of ...
Gaiman's The Sandman. All the same Star Wars/Trek and Marvel haters.In this case it was painfully obvious they never read the graphic novels
You say that like any of that is new. Tolkien got a letter from Nazis asking if he was a Jew.
If you had read my comment before replying,you'd know I'm talking about ppl who never read Tolkien & believe Éowyn was made up for the films
It's painfully clear that these "fans" are unfamiliar with the source material. They discover it in movie/TV form & go on a hate spree ...
Shaodyn
You won't find anybody who hates a thing more than its own fans claim to.
msd3k
"fans" is short for fanatics. That's all the explanation that is really necessary.
You know who gets the angriest when a wife cheats on a husband? The husband. No one else really cares that much.
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Crowlands
That is a Real good analogy. I'm taking it.
SmokyDoggg
I dunno it's gonna be hard to beat The Rise Of Skywalker
Br0doSwaggins
Star Wars Holiday Special has entered the chat
Yea it sucked but in its defense it wasn't trying to be a major theatrical release that people paid good money to see. It was network.
lonelydragon
People aren't criticized for disliking the Star Wars Holiday Special for some reason criticize the new star wars and you're a sexist. /shrug
KungFuAnimeJesus
Look man, the Rise of Skywalker was bad, but it didn’t invent the concept of a Wookie Masturbation Chair
SalmonTheWise
But did Rise of Skywalker give as first appearance of Boba Fett? Didn't think so.
channelranger
Yeah like people bitch about the sequels but TFA and TLJ are both entirely watchable movies. TRS is way, way worse.
TLJ? yes I guess. TFA? I'd rather watch A New Hope
I agree, but TFA is basically just ANH with less tight plotting, so it's more watchable than TRS will ever be.
My favorite part of TLJ is how palpatine has this entire army armada built in an unreachable place that absolutely no one knows about.
I said TLJ, I meant TRoS** but hopefully the story moment clued you guys in
It's silly, yeah, but it doesn't get anywhere near "Somehow, palpatine has returned"
Honestly I feel like I’m “one of those fans”. I disliked all the sequels for different reasons. Ep 8 was definitely the worst for me->
As a whole. But while 7 and 9 had some “ok”ish “Star Warsy” moments, they were all pretty bad to me. I think a problem I have is that when->
I'd have to disagree. 8 I felt was the best of the sequels being the only one that tried something new and wasn't hilariously stupid.
Zreen
what happened this time
keroko
Empire Strikes Back got made.
thebigbaka
koops
“that beat I’m done!” https://youtu.be/utFRqsT61-k
AwetasticAdventures
Creepio is a masterpiece.
vitfall
Last I heard it was an AK-47 in the new trailer. A SpaceK-47, if you will.
People probably got butthurt over irrelevant things again. You know, the standard SW 'fandom' nonsense.
PhailRaptor
*gestures at everything*
Kralizac
Hey, Madalorian, bobba fett and even obi wan were pretty good compaired to the cinematic drivvle we got past decade or so.
Trollcaverneux
yeah , none of those were good ...
redpandabanana
Rogue one was a banger. Except for the last minute tie in that felt jarringly out of place and forced imo
ridureyu
A woman got cast in a role in Star Wars.
smegheadenergy
A woman of color?!
The very same!
JHawkInc
Oola has been in Star Wars since the early 80’s!
And her actress hasn’t aged a day! She’s super gracious to fans, too.
PlankTableGo
They put a black lady in Star Wars.
RtsWillH1Mself
Has there not been a black woman in Star wars before this? Pretty sure there has been
Congrats, you are falling for the corporate line that there shitty scripts and bad directors are not the problem, and that it’s “racism”.
shhsfootballjock
For reals. Obiwan fucking sucked. Not cause of race or gender it just fucking sucked ass
ToSisPoS
Every downvote I see pretty much confirms your point.
drosophilamelanogaster
So... Four people? Out of... Almost 8 billion?
I didn't ask for examples, but thank you.
TheMemeForge
You re on a public forum, you asked to engage in a conversation
Girls as main characters. Diversity. Y ‘know, the usual.
There has always been a girl as a main character.
Main secondary character. Bravely steps to the side when it's Luke time to hero.
No one cares Rey is female, they care shes written like a shitty fan-fic. Look at Ahsoka
Star Wars was a refuge from mean girls. With all these girls now the main characters of course it’s going to be making a certain subset mad.
zutty
I think women care than Rey is female
Star Wars exists. That’s pretty much all it takes, there’s an entire entertainment industry kept alive by the constant hate of the fanbase.
Star Wars since day 1 has just been merchandise haven. Even George Lucas knew that, hence he focused on getting all the rights for that.
CrimeBrulee
The issue is the juxtaposition of how cool the SW world looks and feels vs. the trite stories they pump out on the banner movies.
hyperfell
Dude I dipped out when I was told you had to play Fortnite to understand why palpatine comes back.
Ristari
Wait what? It made no sense in the movie but I doubt fortnite is involved
Jhazkrit
Palpatine had a message play in Fortnite to tie into episode 9's release.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I acknowledge the last trilogy wasn’t good writing, but it was enjoyable in the theater because it’s like my toys came to life. That’s it.
I got disinterested in it between Solo and Rise. Not a hatred, just a disinterest. Didn't see Rise but heard enough.
I ended up going back to the videogames and Legends novels. Saw the edited down movie version of Kenobi series. Enjoyed Mando
Logical. I do just wish we could all unite in agreement that Rogue One was very good.
kyro
Absolutely nothing. And yet, the parade of bitching continues.
Malloon
Come on, it's tradition at this point.
blaghart
I'll bet they put a woman and a black guy in as central characters instead of background/side characters like Lando again.
Rapstasimo
You'd think people would have focused on the real issues, like the new movies being boring as hell and not making any sense.
Saker82
Yeah. Instead they focus on the one woman BARELY involved in production rather than the guys who wrote the shoddilly written movies.
I felt so bad for her. She got dogged because she took a shitty role in a big name franchise.
noneofthemknewtheywererobots
Star Wars fans are whiny bitches.
And if they ever stop whining, the franchise will become irrelevant. As is the path chosen by Disney ...
mecalise
Have you seen the obi wan show? Sometimes it be justified my dude
I haven’t but I thought a lot of people liked it no?
I've only seen the fan edited 2h8m film version
BHPaperstacks
I dunno I thought Obi-Wan and Mandalorian were pretty gang related. Book of Fett wasn't eprfect but still enjoyable.
KarmaciouS
Boba was better than Obi-Wan, change my mind
Comet260
I'd rather watch Fett 100 more times than see TLJ a second time.
dcl88
Mandalorian 2.5
JasterMereel11
Andor looks phenomenal so not sure where the bitching is coming from
Gang related
Don't make me repeat myself
HypnagogicHallucinations
eprfect
You would dare to mock a god?
sochilln
What is that flaming heap? A simultaneous screening of 7, 8, &9?
KillerMeans
Nah it's all you "fans" who bitch and complain about 3 movies that have no bearing on your life in any way shape or form.
FTUG
Holiday special
I think this meme was made for you
CatsIsTheAnswer
The amount of people missing the joke is frankly alarming
shmoogeeoogee
Its many bothans dying
Sent them for coffee... all dead.
madbydesign
Nah, it’s the prequels.
PotOfJam
It's from the heat generated from all the Star Wars fans typing comments on social media.
Oh and the han solo books
And 1,2,3. And the Clone Wars animated movie. And Resistance. And RotJ. And the Droids show. And the Ewoks show. And Book of Boba Fett. And
The first 4 seasons of the Clone Wars animated special. And the Holiday special. And I’m not even touching the EU, I’ll be here all day.
dunkum09
its just an infinite loop of the "Somehow the Emperor returned" scene from 9
TheRiverRat
I dislike that they went that path to but the history of force wielders surviving a long fall is a large one. Cloud city is a good example.
Mmbear
My assumption was(and maybe i missed something) is that he restored him self through cloning and force transfer. Ie the scene of the vats 1)
At the start of 9 and his reference to “unnatural ability” to escape death of Darth Plagous referenced in 3.
He wouldn't let anyone clone him in fear of his own inhibitor chips, was always strange they didn't clone a Jedi, maybe you couldnt
DeltaLaw
I mean we had a dude so filled with hate he came back from being cut in half
there was also a big plasma explosion too. but mostly its a terrible plot point.
Lots of ships cleared the blast so he could a like cloud city called someone in to pick him up. Yep some terrible plot points for sire
AnimalGenetaliaAudioClues
Eu had him make multiple clones of himself and he was able to transfer his consciousness to them. Obviously it doesn’t apply here because
Disney deleted EU.
scissorxmextimbers
8, minus that one scene, was the worst movie stars wars ever did
eathotdog
No, attack of the clones is still worse, you just have your nostalgia glasses glued on
redmangc
8 did something new and failed, 2 was fucking BORING. And i love all starwars ALL but 2 is still the worst because it's the only boring one
You don't Iike space politics in your otherwise fun space fantasy?
LJashin
Which scene? As I recall they're all bad
Holdo maneuver
You mean the thing that invalidates all space combat both before and since? The "Heroic sacrifice" that could have been done by an A.I.?
It looks cool, but it also means the Death Star can be 1 shot by anything with a hyperdrive.
Unpopular opinion -- 'Space Witch Leia' was a fantastic scene
You got us in the first half thats for sure
I think 9 is more of an incoherent sloppy mess, but that is in part Because it's built on the foundation of shit that was 8's ending.
Main villain: Dead. Secondary Villain: Was already shown to be weak. Tertiary villain: Made comic relief. Hero: Strongest Jedi in any movie.
Where is the tension? Where is the threat? Why should anyone care about the sequel? No surprise E9 got half the cinema viewings of E7.
Secondary characters? Finn is an Utterly wasted joke (I feel sorry for John Boyega), Poe's arc was a mess, Rose was so incompetent that -
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Honestly, I was kinda ok with how 8 ended. Because it looked like they were setting up Kylo as "Space Joffrey." Not some cool villain but a>
psychopathic manchild trying to ruin the galaxy for his own gratification. And I thought that could have been made interesting. Seeing how >
much he could destroy before being taken out. But... yeah... we ended up with just nothing.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
propped up by the fetid remains of a 1, 2, & 3 marathon.
xXCarpeNoctumXx
the prequels while being dry and political...with a decent amount of bad dialogue.....were Okay...we can all agree 7/8/9 are just poop
RaltarArianrhod
I always find shit like this hilarious because a few years ago, all people could talk about was how awful the prequel trilogy was.
Young millennials have nostalgia fever for the prequels, as if Disney star wars somehow makes the prequels less dogshit
ElbowDeepInUserSub
They're objectively awful in a variety of ways. This is a litmus test, you can tell someone is under 25 if they like them.
Illumian85
False, I'm over 25 and like them...not jarjar though, he can fuck right off and die.
I'm well over 25 and I enjoy the Prequels. They're bad movies, but well made. Every establishing shot is phenomenal and the sound...
3Davideo
"The worst thing so far!"
InHarmsWay
Are you a true Star Wars fan if you don't hate Star Wars?
fortheloveofsloth
Clone Wars and Rebels are widely celebrated by die hard fans. Its not all content they rag on. But the main stream stuff does suck sometimes
TheFastpaws
The fans are toxic as hell but Disney also screws up a ton.
RadasNoir
"Worst thing I've ever done *so far*."
thegreatninjaman
I like star wars, and i dont like some of the newer stuff. Am i being dramatic?
DobbyOneKenobi
Vergenbuurg
Why is Homer dressed like Michael Douglas in "Falling Down"?
goflyblind
wasn't this from the hamster-as-an-astronaut episode? homer was dressing like an apollo-era nasa employee, i think.
geekoffury
Or, the shit they're doing gets a little worse with every iteration.
JonSnowAKAAegonTargaryen
I didn't complain about Star Wars until Disney started releasing their sequels. It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie and was underwhelming.
idowhat
Worst thing that happened - so far
Kiirdel
I've enjoyed the new stuff. I mean dumb things happen, but the amnesia fans have for the old stuff is wild. I still like the originals most.
TheRuckestRick
Say what you will I really enjoyed the obi-wan series.
Sidewaysgts
I felt it was a rough start (with some very questionable moments/scenes), but ended strongly
PeregrinFalconPunch
So did I
KHLP
Star Wars fans talk about Star Wars as if it’s based on true events.
hippy80
I'm thankful for Dave Filoni
HermitBean
Just don't watch them? idk sounds like a very modern and stupid problem to have
Masinx
I think most of the hate is from the fact that they pretty much ran with a legends storyline. And whoever that Katherine kennedy woman was.
Masinx
And getting rid of a lot of source material that would've made the most recent movies amazing. I do love rogue 1 though ngl.
Vespasian88
There's issues with the movies that have nothing to do with gender or race. I dont care if the next lead is Trans, give them a arc for once.
FajitaJane
NoT My sTaR WaRs
Samidk
Exactly. Its an entire universe. Just make more content. Nothing will be for everyone not everything will be good but everyone deserves to
Samidk
Enjoy star wars..... Except the holdo maneuver that was just pure trash. And the choreography for the throne room fight. But otherwise
Samidk
FajitaJane
The throne room fight is my favorite fight in the new Star Wars. Especially when Reign in Blood is played over it.
Samidk
Its flashy and looks cool but from a fight perspective is horribly choreographed and illogical. Several time ray should have just died or
Samidk
Been sevearly injured and honestly it makes no sense how she fought with a lightsaber vs people trained with odd weapons to fight people
Housemaster
It's like I'm watching you argue with yourself
Samidk
Becuase its a very long and diverse topic. Long story short i expect consistency and quality but what that quality is can be anything its a
Samidk
Big open universe with every type of character you could imagine. Just make sure physics and continuity flows. But if you want to make a
Faloopsinarb
anglafro365
https://youtu.be/fIWKMgJs_Gs
zeacorzeppelin10
anglafro365
If you understood his view and work ethic during the OT and compared it to the way he did the prequels, you see a vast change for the worse.
anglafro365
Watch commentary tracks of both series and tell me which one involved more thought and effort.
Dagordae
Dagordae
Also thanks, I shall use this to piss off many manbabies.
Faloopsinarb
As a Blood Ravens fan, you're most welcome.
Vampoodle
Hippity Hoppity stealing your property
Allthatjunk
Lol good one. But I mean no one actually forced Disney to make everything worse.
laboon
thats where you re wrong kiddo
Allthatjunk
Okay ? How am I wrong here ?
laboon
disney and everyone bending over backwards and destroying movies with development hell to appease insane fans who dont deserve good movies
mrprogamer96
Oh, poor poor Disney,/s. Disney has more money then some countries, but go on about how it’s the fan’s fault that the movies were bad.
Allthatjunk
You may know more than me here, I'm really not a fan.
Lionskull
idk, i watched starwars as an adult, then soon after watched the sequel trilogy. They were shit, rogue one was great, mando was good,>
Lionskull
>boba fett and kenobi were terrible. which is a shame for kenobi, because it was such bad acting, wasting the kenobi IP and Ewan mcgreggor
AdmiralSassbar
Kenobi was awesome because now we have Larry. (auralnauts, youtube, ykwtd)
spiffylookingnerfherder
The love for Rogue One suggests it's not *just* the fans.
morelikeconsham
a) you are correct, it is not *just* the fans, but b) it is also telling that star wars had to distance itself from the jedi/sith conflict
morelikeconsham
(read: the core conflict of the series) before every fan was happy with it.
freezingpilot
Rogue One was great. it had some issues, but it was very very good.
Exerosp
I'm just seeing the meme as "It's Starwarsfans' fault we got the Disney shit movies".
laboon
fun fact it is
Z0op
Definitely not, starwars fans might be bitching an awful lot but the failure of the sequel trilogy lies entirely with executives and >
Z0op
directors who had no fckin clue what they were doing
barnsandnobel
Im not a huge fan but i dont think any of the movies were unusually bad, especially for a star wars movie. They were all kinda meh tbh.
Lulabel73
I’m old I saw Star Wars in 1977 and I watch everything , some I like better than others but it was always “bad” it’s made for 12 year olds.
RufusPimperton
That's the tragedy of Star Wars fans. Most saw the movies when they were kids and expect them to repeat the magic in adulthood.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Saw it when it came out in 1978 in Germany. I was 10 and I thought I had to like it because my friends liked it.
Lulabel73
Ive never been like that.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
I was 10 and it lasted until I was 11. I'm okay with the outcome.
JonatasAM
That's why I watch stuff without my friends. Then again I'm glad I introduced Star Wars to my friend
SecondSince
So tired of the SW hate. Like what you like and let others like what they like. You only love the OG ones? Then just watch those.
sarkonas
You can like whatever you want, that's valid, just don't call it good.
IsolatedAsshole
Problem is the only people who seem to hate Star Wars are the people who like Star Wars. I'm an indifferent to it and only see hate within.
MAup
Disneyland galactic star cruiser. Just saying. Check the price and what you get. A ride in a boxtruck xD
AtsaMattaForMe
DobbyOneKenobi
AtsaMattaForMe
harryplt788
Ugh
ExistentialDreadlocks
Well there's your problem
Zoldjah
a study says the more intelligent you are the better you can adapt to changes
PorneliusHubertII
I can adapt to change, doesnt mean i have ro like it.
ilovebigmutts
Ladies and gentlemen, the GQP explained so beautifully.
donkeystothecastle
They're calling it the Grand Qanon Party now? FFS gotta be kidding me. I always thought it would be fun to be in a comedy. Let me out!!!
VirtualNaut
SIGMA920
Change isn't the problem shitty writing and blatant stupidity is.
ohnoitsavikingchick
Unless you're also autistic. Change is horrifying to me.
Guidocat
I did adapt. I used to really like star wars. Now I don't like most of star wars. I guess I'm super fucking smart, eh?
MacallanNeat
This just in: I’m dumb as shit. I mean, I already knew that. But now I’ve got further confirmation from reporter on the street @Zoldjah
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Complaining about stupid crap doesn't mean they didn't adapt
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Yep. I usually adapt to these kind of changes by walking and staying away from the subject.
DVSBSTrD
Doesn't mean those changes are any good.
JonatasAM
We need to stupify the population then
Zoldjah
aight reading teough the comments was a journey I expected. 10/10
sgnight13
I mean we adapted to four years under the Trump administration, doesn't mean anyone should ever let him make decisions ever again
TK421isAFK
Huh. Here I am going through the comments thinking, "I actually really like all of the movies. They each have their own merit." Some 1/2
TK421isAFK
of these commenters really want to cling to some sense of hate. Fuck all that - just enjoy the movies for what they are - MOVIES. They 2/3
TK421isAFK
are not some sort of biological extension grafted onto your body by Lucas or Disney - and I say that as a guy who uses a SW user name. 3/3
SouperScott
"Just turn your brain off!"
TK421isAFK
Versus giving yourself hypertension by over-thinking a fucking movie?
DarkBusterBaron
"Somehow Palpatine returned" nuff said.
TheGreatAtomsk
a change could be not to follow a franchise anymore.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
...and that is a wise decision. Like with people - dead franchises should stay dead.
ShiftingPattern
"Adapting to change," is not entirely synonymous with, "Accepting the desecration of a franchise."
Housemaster
"Star Wars got desecrated!"
Housemaster
"We might have been overreacting when we said RotJ, Special Editions, Prequels, Luuke, Clone Wars (movie/seasons1-3) and Christmas...
Housemaster
... Special ruined Star Wars, but *THIS* time we're serious!"
sgnight13
Housemaster
*this post*
thatlamer
"desecration" lmao, what an incredible drama queen.
astrangehop
I read another study that said uncited claims aren't from peer reviewed journals 93 percent of the time
sgnight13
I read another study that said it was actually 87%
TheSwedishCryptid
I read another one that English is actually German but with 2 umbrellas up its butt.
JonatasAM
I read somewhere that somehow German is Latin mixed with Barbarish, aka Bar Bar
AustimousPrime
I read a study that reading study's is for big fucking nerds and that everyone should blindly trust strangers on the internet...%
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
You all owe me 600$ and said you'd pay by September
sgnight13
This seems valid but how can I trust you
zeacorzeppelin10
Star Wars Stans can't say shit after the death threats they sent to Kelly Marie Tran, and making Ahmed Best Contemplate Suicide.
RufusPimperton
And the degrees they bullied Jake Lloyd
zeacorzeppelin10
He quit acting.
AxelTenveils
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Sequels, but god damn that shit(harassment and threats) are fucking criminal. Why the absolute fuck?
zeacorzeppelin10
I like the sequels, but I feel they were doomed from the start because the Stans are impossible to please and violently vocal when mad.
secondtalon
No one hates Star Wars more than a Star Wars fan.
DrDezz
Weird how pretty much every one love the Mandalorian. Funny how if you treat something with respect people love you for it!
secondtalon
As you yourself admit, pretty much everyone. Lots of people hate Baby Yoda for Minioning up the franchise.
DrDezz
Don’t see it. Never seen any video against it. Sure there some. But attacking the fan constantly is a loosing proposition.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Eh, there are plenty of fans like myself who love most of it and don't really hate anything. Those loud, obnoxious "fans" also moonlight ...
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
as supposed Marvel fans, and more recently fans of The Sandman. It's the same whiny minority of white/male/straight supremacists who seem...
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
blissfully unaware of the fact that these franchises have always been very progressive and inclusive for their time. Same with Star Trek.
secondtalon
No True Scotsman fallacy. They aren't "fans", they're fans, same as you.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
There are plenty of far-right trolls who make it a sport to hate on franchises that have always been progressive & clearly never read/saw...
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
the original works on which the sequels or adaptations are based. I've seen all the usual suspects on imdb rant about the adaptation of ...
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Gaiman's The Sandman. All the same Star Wars/Trek and Marvel haters.In this case it was painfully obvious they never read the graphic novels
secondtalon
You say that like any of that is new. Tolkien got a letter from Nazis asking if he was a Jew.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
If you had read my comment before replying,you'd know I'm talking about ppl who never read Tolkien & believe Éowyn was made up for the films
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
It's painfully clear that these "fans" are unfamiliar with the source material. They discover it in movie/TV form & go on a hate spree ...
Shaodyn
You won't find anybody who hates a thing more than its own fans claim to.
msd3k
"fans" is short for fanatics. That's all the explanation that is really necessary.
Guidocat
You know who gets the angriest when a wife cheats on a husband? The husband. No one else really cares that much.
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Crowlands
That is a Real good analogy. I'm taking it.
SmokyDoggg
I dunno it's gonna be hard to beat The Rise Of Skywalker
TheRainbowegoSweet007
Br0doSwaggins
Star Wars Holiday Special has entered the chat
SmokyDoggg
Yea it sucked but in its defense it wasn't trying to be a major theatrical release that people paid good money to see. It was network.
lonelydragon
People aren't criticized for disliking the Star Wars Holiday Special for some reason criticize the new star wars and you're a sexist. /shrug
KungFuAnimeJesus
Look man, the Rise of Skywalker was bad, but it didn’t invent the concept of a Wookie Masturbation Chair
SalmonTheWise
But did Rise of Skywalker give as first appearance of Boba Fett? Didn't think so.
channelranger
Yeah like people bitch about the sequels but TFA and TLJ are both entirely watchable movies. TRS is way, way worse.
JonatasAM
TLJ? yes I guess. TFA? I'd rather watch A New Hope
channelranger
I agree, but TFA is basically just ANH with less tight plotting, so it's more watchable than TRS will ever be.
Sidewaysgts
My favorite part of TLJ is how palpatine has this entire army armada built in an unreachable place that absolutely no one knows about.
Sidewaysgts
I said TLJ, I meant TRoS** but hopefully the story moment clued you guys in
channelranger
It's silly, yeah, but it doesn't get anywhere near "Somehow, palpatine has returned"
Sidewaysgts
Honestly I feel like I’m “one of those fans”. I disliked all the sequels for different reasons. Ep 8 was definitely the worst for me->
Sidewaysgts
As a whole. But while 7 and 9 had some “ok”ish “Star Warsy” moments, they were all pretty bad to me. I think a problem I have is that when->
channelranger
I'd have to disagree. 8 I felt was the best of the sequels being the only one that tried something new and wasn't hilariously stupid.
Zreen
what happened this time
keroko
Empire Strikes Back got made.
thebigbaka
koops
“that beat I’m done!” https://youtu.be/utFRqsT61-k
AwetasticAdventures
Creepio is a masterpiece.
vitfall
Last I heard it was an AK-47 in the new trailer. A SpaceK-47, if you will.
SecondSince
People probably got butthurt over irrelevant things again. You know, the standard SW 'fandom' nonsense.
PhailRaptor
*gestures at everything*
Kralizac
Hey, Madalorian, bobba fett and even obi wan were pretty good compaired to the cinematic drivvle we got past decade or so.
Trollcaverneux
yeah , none of those were good ...
redpandabanana
Rogue one was a banger. Except for the last minute tie in that felt jarringly out of place and forced imo
ridureyu
A woman got cast in a role in Star Wars.
smegheadenergy
A woman of color?!
ridureyu
The very same!
JHawkInc
Oola has been in Star Wars since the early 80’s!
ridureyu
And her actress hasn’t aged a day! She’s super gracious to fans, too.
PlankTableGo
They put a black lady in Star Wars.
RtsWillH1Mself
Has there not been a black woman in Star wars before this? Pretty sure there has been
mrprogamer96
Congrats, you are falling for the corporate line that there shitty scripts and bad directors are not the problem, and that it’s “racism”.
shhsfootballjock
For reals. Obiwan fucking sucked. Not cause of race or gender it just fucking sucked ass
Zreen
ToSisPoS
Every downvote I see pretty much confirms your point.
drosophilamelanogaster
So... Four people? Out of... Almost 8 billion?
ToSisPoS
I didn't ask for examples, but thank you.
TheMemeForge
You re on a public forum, you asked to engage in a conversation
ToSisPoS
Girls as main characters. Diversity. Y ‘know, the usual.
barnsandnobel
There has always been a girl as a main character.
ToSisPoS
Main secondary character. Bravely steps to the side when it's Luke time to hero.
TheMemeForge
No one cares Rey is female, they care shes written like a shitty fan-fic. Look at Ahsoka
ToSisPoS
Star Wars was a refuge from mean girls. With all these girls now the main characters of course it’s going to be making a certain subset mad.
zutty
I think women care than Rey is female
Dagordae
Star Wars exists. That’s pretty much all it takes, there’s an entire entertainment industry kept alive by the constant hate of the fanbase.
TheSwedishCryptid
Star Wars since day 1 has just been merchandise haven. Even George Lucas knew that, hence he focused on getting all the rights for that.
CrimeBrulee
The issue is the juxtaposition of how cool the SW world looks and feels vs. the trite stories they pump out on the banner movies.
hyperfell
Dude I dipped out when I was told you had to play Fortnite to understand why palpatine comes back.
Ristari
Wait what? It made no sense in the movie but I doubt fortnite is involved
Jhazkrit
Palpatine had a message play in Fortnite to tie into episode 9's release.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I acknowledge the last trilogy wasn’t good writing, but it was enjoyable in the theater because it’s like my toys came to life. That’s it.
Zreen
I got disinterested in it between Solo and Rise. Not a hatred, just a disinterest. Didn't see Rise but heard enough.
Zreen
I ended up going back to the videogames and Legends novels. Saw the edited down movie version of Kenobi series. Enjoyed Mando
PineappleLoopsBroether
Logical. I do just wish we could all unite in agreement that Rogue One was very good.
kyro
Absolutely nothing. And yet, the parade of bitching continues.
Malloon
Come on, it's tradition at this point.
Zreen
blaghart
I'll bet they put a woman and a black guy in as central characters instead of background/side characters like Lando again.
Rapstasimo
You'd think people would have focused on the real issues, like the new movies being boring as hell and not making any sense.
Saker82
Yeah. Instead they focus on the one woman BARELY involved in production rather than the guys who wrote the shoddilly written movies.
Rapstasimo
I felt so bad for her. She got dogged because she took a shitty role in a big name franchise.
noneofthemknewtheywererobots
Star Wars fans are whiny bitches.
Trollcaverneux
And if they ever stop whining, the franchise will become irrelevant. As is the path chosen by Disney ...
mecalise
Have you seen the obi wan show? Sometimes it be justified my dude
noneofthemknewtheywererobots
I haven’t but I thought a lot of people liked it no?
Zreen
I've only seen the fan edited 2h8m film version
BHPaperstacks
I dunno I thought Obi-Wan and Mandalorian were pretty gang related. Book of Fett wasn't eprfect but still enjoyable.
KarmaciouS
Boba was better than Obi-Wan, change my mind
Comet260
I'd rather watch Fett 100 more times than see TLJ a second time.
dcl88
Mandalorian 2.5
JasterMereel11
Andor looks phenomenal so not sure where the bitching is coming from
Zreen
Gang related
BHPaperstacks
Don't make me repeat myself
HypnagogicHallucinations
eprfect
BHPaperstacks
You would dare to mock a god?
sochilln
What is that flaming heap? A simultaneous screening of 7, 8, &9?
KillerMeans
Nah it's all you "fans" who bitch and complain about 3 movies that have no bearing on your life in any way shape or form.
FTUG
Holiday special
Housemaster
I think this meme was made for you
CatsIsTheAnswer
The amount of people missing the joke is frankly alarming
shmoogeeoogee
Its many bothans dying
Housemaster
Sent them for coffee... all dead.
madbydesign
Nah, it’s the prequels.
PotOfJam
It's from the heat generated from all the Star Wars fans typing comments on social media.
shmoogeeoogee
Oh and the han solo books
Dagordae
And 1,2,3. And the Clone Wars animated movie. And Resistance. And RotJ. And the Droids show. And the Ewoks show. And Book of Boba Fett. And
Dagordae
The first 4 seasons of the Clone Wars animated special. And the Holiday special. And I’m not even touching the EU, I’ll be here all day.
dunkum09
its just an infinite loop of the "Somehow the Emperor returned" scene from 9
TheRiverRat
I dislike that they went that path to but the history of force wielders surviving a long fall is a large one. Cloud city is a good example.
Mmbear
My assumption was(and maybe i missed something) is that he restored him self through cloning and force transfer. Ie the scene of the vats 1)
Mmbear
At the start of 9 and his reference to “unnatural ability” to escape death of Darth Plagous referenced in 3.
TheRiverRat
He wouldn't let anyone clone him in fear of his own inhibitor chips, was always strange they didn't clone a Jedi, maybe you couldnt
DeltaLaw
I mean we had a dude so filled with hate he came back from being cut in half
dunkum09
there was also a big plasma explosion too. but mostly its a terrible plot point.
TheRiverRat
Lots of ships cleared the blast so he could a like cloud city called someone in to pick him up. Yep some terrible plot points for sire
AnimalGenetaliaAudioClues
Eu had him make multiple clones of himself and he was able to transfer his consciousness to them. Obviously it doesn’t apply here because
AnimalGenetaliaAudioClues
Disney deleted EU.
scissorxmextimbers
8, minus that one scene, was the worst movie stars wars ever did
eathotdog
No, attack of the clones is still worse, you just have your nostalgia glasses glued on
redmangc
8 did something new and failed, 2 was fucking BORING. And i love all starwars ALL but 2 is still the worst because it's the only boring one
eathotdog
You don't Iike space politics in your otherwise fun space fantasy?
LJashin
Which scene? As I recall they're all bad
scissorxmextimbers
Holdo maneuver
Crowlands
You mean the thing that invalidates all space combat both before and since? The "Heroic sacrifice" that could have been done by an A.I.?
Crowlands
It looks cool, but it also means the Death Star can be 1 shot by anything with a hyperdrive.
PhailRaptor
Unpopular opinion -- 'Space Witch Leia' was a fantastic scene
shmoogeeoogee
You got us in the first half thats for sure
Crowlands
I think 9 is more of an incoherent sloppy mess, but that is in part Because it's built on the foundation of shit that was 8's ending.
Crowlands
Main villain: Dead. Secondary Villain: Was already shown to be weak. Tertiary villain: Made comic relief. Hero: Strongest Jedi in any movie.
Crowlands
Where is the tension? Where is the threat? Why should anyone care about the sequel? No surprise E9 got half the cinema viewings of E7.
Crowlands
Secondary characters? Finn is an Utterly wasted joke (I feel sorry for John Boyega), Poe's arc was a mess, Rose was so incompetent that -
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Honestly, I was kinda ok with how 8 ended. Because it looked like they were setting up Kylo as "Space Joffrey." Not some cool villain but a>
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
psychopathic manchild trying to ruin the galaxy for his own gratification. And I thought that could have been made interesting. Seeing how >
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
much he could destroy before being taken out. But... yeah... we ended up with just nothing.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
propped up by the fetid remains of a 1, 2, & 3 marathon.
xXCarpeNoctumXx
the prequels while being dry and political...with a decent amount of bad dialogue.....were Okay...we can all agree 7/8/9 are just poop
RaltarArianrhod
I always find shit like this hilarious because a few years ago, all people could talk about was how awful the prequel trilogy was.
eathotdog
Young millennials have nostalgia fever for the prequels, as if Disney star wars somehow makes the prequels less dogshit
ElbowDeepInUserSub
They're objectively awful in a variety of ways. This is a litmus test, you can tell someone is under 25 if they like them.
Illumian85
False, I'm over 25 and like them...not jarjar though, he can fuck right off and die.
Housemaster
I'm well over 25 and I enjoy the Prequels. They're bad movies, but well made. Every establishing shot is phenomenal and the sound...