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imjustheretoholdyourhandwhenyoudie
I watched Michael Moore's 'Roger & Me' in one of my college classes and the part that stayed with me the most was a woman named Rhonda Britton skinning a rabbit she had raised for "Pets or Meat." There is not a time in history when that documentary has not been relevant in the US.
iamlegendinjapan
McTaco
So your gonna eat the cute bunny babies š¢
Atlasraven
What about the fur? Do you "process" that?
Evenmoreuselessname
Seems like it'd be a shame to waste it
thedoorman42
Right? Like I would hope they are using it for something. Or passing it on to people who can.
nichfra
If you just want some meat (not counting fish) there's pretty much nothing better than rabbits. They have a Feed conversion ratio that's even a little higher than chickens.
spinymouse
Ehhhh ya. Please don't just multiply rabbits without a plan. You have to learn how to keep them well. Grow/buy feed for them. And you have to learn how to kill them in the least pain- and stressful way possible. If you can't give them a good life and death, just grow potatoes.
7chickens123000
Potatoes save lives
AtmaDarkwolf
As a lover of bunny meat, I cannot be more agreeable with the above statement. Animals, ESPECIALLY those u are raising as food, DESERVE a decent, stress-free, and happy life. Let them eat well, let them play, and treat them right. And at the end, make sure the end is as peaceful and painless as possible. No rows and rows of cages, no gross food, no having them 'watch' the others die. Treat them with kindness. This is true of ANY animal we grow as food.
mmmurppp
Youād think breeding is exponential to the power of 2ā¦ itās not. Reality says itās the power of āeā. 2.71828ā¦.
ApplesdaKitty
something something about logs in nature,
Lucabibble
Oh I don't like this at all, not at fucking all.
mcoulter876
Curious how much she spends on food for these rabbits before processing them.
marquettegoldeneagles
I understand the thought process here but I just couldn't.
charondaboatman
Rabbits, chickens, pigs, sheep, goats, ducks. A 1 acre pond, a 1 acre garden and a 2 acre grazing area for the livestock. 5 acres or less would feed 18-24 people per year.
Circe007
UnlimitedTrickPony
this rabbit video took a dark turn quickly
rmichelsen480
Processing bunnies?
ClarissaPDG
You know,ā¦
āHarming animals is horrifying, and people should be ashamed. But processing your food, is part of life.
Those bastards that eat or harm dogs, rats, or whatever. Shameful. They can go to hell.ā
- Hypocrite Animal Rights Activists.
expectnothingstillletdown
If your point is that it's hypocritical for animal rights activists to eat meat, I agree with you. But a fairly large percentage of them are vegetarian or vegan.
thedoorman42
Slaughtering, skinning and portioning.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
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LollieCom
How foolish my mother was.... always thhinking of ways to reduce the cost of protein... we'll raise bunnies! That did not work. We named the bunnies, played with them, loved them. We refused to eat them and were only desolate the day they were MURDERED. Then, "Oh well, we'll raise goats!" Do you have any idea how cute a baby goat is??? We didn't eat them either. We refused to eat any animal we'd raised and grown to love. God love my mother and her dumbass ideas.
Snooj
This is like a horror movie from the perspective of a bunny.
spaceghoti
https://www.modernsurvival.org/how-rabbit-starvation-can-kill-you/
film888master9
Parable of the Sower
BeaverOnFire
But how much do you spend to raise them? What's the dollar per pound at the end?
Johnsky
They're going to be ok, right?
Atlasraven
They retired to a farm upstate.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
They're going to be delicious.
Evo435
Three of them are doing great.
HamSlamwich
I don't think in the modern age, having to slaughter and prep a live animal every other day qualifies as "easy".
Kyzyl
Or having what appears to be 2000 square feet of shed space dedicated to them. (I'm guessing she has a 20-foot by ten foot shed, but it could be larger) Plus the minimum time per day spent on husbandry activities. Chores for the kids - when the kids are responsible enough to do chores.
Arcanum3000
20x10 is 200, not 2000. And kids can start helping with chores at a younger age than many people in the modern age give them credit for. And for processing, there are businesses that will slaughter and butcher your animals for you. Either way, you'd do all the meat animals at once and freeze them to save on feed costs and work caring for them.
KuroFluff
I'm vegetarian so.... can I pet the rabbits?
CuntCrotchula
I dont understand how people hunt / butcher animals to begin with (not vegetarian, but fully would be if i had to do the deed myself), but especially bunnies...
swofromtherock
Mostly by growing up doing it. I.e. the trauma of the thing is forced upon you until you desensitize to it and then force the trauma on the next generation.
YeOlRazzleDazzle
I personally can't wait for the lab grown, synthesized meat production to become cheaper and more commercial. Meat is nice and tasty. The procurement of meat is, 99% of the time, horrific and fucked up.
Blackfinity
Today I saved a june bug by picking it up off the sidewalk and put it into a shaded area with leaves and shit. The other day I did the same for a garden slug. I'm just not mentally able to harm animals. I suppose I should be thankful that there are people who are "okay" with it because I do like a good chicken casserole or hamburger; without these people I'd go hungry.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
People do much worse regularly, I would consider all those that turn down insurance claims to be doing an infinitely more terrible thing than butchering an animal for sustenance. I grew up around farms and hunting for some of my food so obviously it's very normal for me. I do think people should be informed about how animals are treated (also regulations should be much stricter on treatment), and how they are processed, same as with any of the food they consume.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Oh and if the concern is coming from the side of cute fluffy bunnies and such, just remember that plenty of vegetarian critters will eat other animals when given the opportunity (opportunistic omnivores), are in need, etc. Deer, horses, cows, etc. will gobble a chick if one is wandering by. Bunnies (and similar critters) will eat their own young if they don't think they will survive given a poor season or other circumstances. Nature is not kind, but we don't need to be cruel to eat animals.
icannotthinkofanyrationalname
Temple Grandin. I grew up working on a large (at that time) dairy farm. My grandfather's. Milking 200 head in the early 1970s. We always raised three steers on the pasture, and they got shared between four families. Ever one of them had the same name. "Sir Loin of Beef". Until slaughter, they, along with all the milk cows, were cared for and treated gently. My grandfather would have it no other way. The cows were like giant dogs, they all wanted 'scritches' behind their ears.
icannotthinkofanyrationalname
But my cousins and I all hunted small game. I did not hunt deer, they did. I never cared for the taste of venison. But rabbits, pheasant, and the occasional turkey (turkey hunting was restricted) were always a welcome meal.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
I was never big on venison, but we certainly had plenty of it. My favorite was wild boar from my hunting days, still is, I just don't hunt in the US.
jamiekellyxxx
Seems too happy about it. Feels ghoulish. Do grim business in silence and respect.
Sarcastus
Seen this same meat scheme in a documentary in 1994 about Flint Michigan and how depressed it got for various economic reasons. Yeah, the lady talking like this one showed you EXACTLY how she processed that rabbit, even handing the camera man the freshly skinned pelt and gutted meat. I was more fascinated by the number of college kids walking out trying not to puke than the documentary.
SardineGoblin
On a similar note, I used to raise feeder rats for reptiles and the thought crossed my mind that in a tougher times/post apocalypse scenario, I'd want to raise them for human food. A rat can produce a litter with let's say on average 10 pups, let's say 5 are female, and in less than two months those rats can be bred themselves.
InablueMule
Pets or Meat? The economic scale.
KuldFyt
Rats are omnivorous coprophages, which makes them incredible disease vectors/reservoirs. They're cute and sweet, but not ideal livestock.
widiwi
MrStealYourGiF
But in a survival scenario, where are you going to get adequate quantities of ketchup?
FatAliGuitar
Bless you for keeping the faith.
pgdave
There are reasons humans don't tend to eat rats - they'll do in a pinch, but they don't produce much meat and the meat they produce isn't generally very tasty.
EntropyReign
yeah, ancient romans bred a dormouse, which apparently worked well. In english it's known as the "edible dormouse". apparently cleaned but left with bones on and grilled over a fire with honey.
MrStealYourGiF
Somewhere they eat guinea pigs I think, wanna say Chile or Peru.
MrStealYourGiF
Okay file this in stuff you maybe didn't want to know and click or don't ... https://www.eatperu.com/eating-cuy-guinea-pig-peruvian-delicacy/
jekath
I tried eating rat once and based on that, I'd go for chickens or rabbits.
ThisIsAllYouCouldComeUpWith
Rats are for stewing, not cutlets
charondaboatman
Yep. A lot of work for a little bit of meat. What ever you grow or raise needs to be calorie positive- meaning that the calories you consume are more than the calories you spent to grow or raise it. Itās how community farming works. Many people doing a little here and there assures a net positive for everyone.
SardineGoblin
In a post apocalypse, rat would have the benefit of being able to be fed... meat you wouldn't want to eat yourself, which would be available in abundance.
pinkguyismyhero
You can get the mad cow disease like that.
Rivalyn
in humans it's called Kuru
spinymouse
Chicken are happy little omnivore dinosaurs
SardineGoblin
They require a lot of space though. Rats would be able to be kept in bins. Male communal bin, female communal bin, smaller bins that they get paired in, then after they mate the male is removed and the female births and raises her litter. In a hypothetical post apocalypse this could happen in a closet.
TheOGPooner
Okā¦ you are on my teamā¦ Iāve only got a hand full of gunsā¦. But I have stockpiled so much ammo itās almost embarrassing
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
But then you have to live with the screams
dontmagpie
the best livestock combo is rabbits and chickens
aerodynamit3
Rabbit starvation is a thing. You can have all the rabbit meat you can eat and still, you will starve eventually. You need a fattier meat for sustainability. Fish is best.
YpsilantiRomani
Protein poisoning
InfocalypseRising
Rabbit starvation is a concern if you're like, a pioneer in the wilderness. If you're eating a normal "guy living in the suburbs" diet you'll be fine.
Ashpond
Yeah this, the oil and stuff they're cooking the rbabit meat in is adding a lot to it. That said, rabbit meat is great for weight loss, especially if you have an active lifestyle. I kept rabbits with chickens as a kid, and had to eat both (my dad made me to 'make a man' out of me) to the point that I've not eaten either since. I pretty much only eat wild boar anymore, it's invasive and healthy.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
It's funny to me that "some pioneers died because their only calories was rabbit" got turned into "eating too much rabbit is bad for you".
rhalm
People have died from drinking water. Where's the "too much water will kill you" crowd when someone talks about drinking water?
pgdave
You don't need a fattier meat - you just need fat.
swedeonamoose
Rabbit and hare is crazy lean ye.
LazerSpacePirate
Oh ffs
Skuggen
Rabbit starvation is a thing if you eat nothing but rabbit.
rhalm
Who's going to do that unless they're in a survival situation with nothing else? If you can farm rabbits you probably have access to lots of other food
Skuggen
Rabbit starvation was something that tended to happen with woodcutters or similar living in remote areas, during winters when they were unable to catch anything else and/or didn't know it was a thing.
squillis
250 lb/y isn't enough to live on with no other food anyways. Rabbit starvation is only a thing during famine when other supplemental food sources are affected
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
So don't eat nothing but rabbit.
bubblesuit24601
I think that's their point. People always talk about rabbit starvation like it just comes from eating rabbit protein but it specifically comes from *only eating rabbit and nothing else* which is obviously a much less common circumstance.
SteersAndQueers
Just survive on mashed potatoes instead
rhalm
Sure but I doubt anyone is going to exclusively eat rabbit meat just because they're farming them. The taste would get old quick and you'll naturally want something different before long. But presumably you'd be putting them in stews or..whatever else rabbit meat goes good in.
expectnothingstillletdown
You do not need meat at all. There are loads of plant-based sources of healthy fats.
NoMuffinsToSpare
Meat eating is efficient. Absolutely not in the global sense, I'm aware. I don't want to eat plant protein all day. The volume of food required is annoying and you fart like a cow.
expectnothingstillletdown
Protein on a plant based diet is much easier than you think it is. According to my calorie tracker I'm at about 247 grams today and it wasn't hard.
That said, even if it were as inconvenient as you believe, I'd still do it, because I can't justify allowing animals to be tortured and killed on my behalf when I have the choice not to.
aerodynamit3
Meat or animal products in general provide more than just protein. B12 is only derived from animals and is essential
expectnothingstillletdown
I was responding to someone specifically talking about protein, so this is a bit of a nonsequitor. That said, you are correct that b12 does not naturally occur in any plant-based foods.
You can either take a supplement, or there's plenty of fortified foods that are vegan- just my morning energy drink i would consume regardless has like 3 times the rdv. And while some other nutrients can sometimes be a challenge, b12 is the only one that you can't get without supplements or fortified foods.
TowerOfRa
This was a big thing one season of Alone. One guy killed a moose but a wolverine stole all the fat. Moose meat is too lean so he had to start catching fish to continue.
KuldFyt
You can also get your animal fats from dairy, and that's probably sensible if you have limited acreage without a significant surface water body. If you keep a dairy goat for the fats, kids will yield ~25# of meat per year. Rabbits will stretch that out quite alot.
aerodynamit3
And now you've added an animal to supplement the other animal. If you're going to do that, just go all in on the goats. Point is, Rabbit meat is just not a super useful sustainable solution. In reality the most sustainable and least effort solution is insects, or some other arthropod.
rhalm
Uh yeah, and having two kind of meat sources is better than one. No single source is going to give you a healthy and sustainable diet.
KuldFyt
"Now you've added an animal to supplement the other animal" .... have you never met a homesteader? That's like... all they do. But that aside, all-in on meat goats takes more land and resources than having a couple of goats and a pile of rabbits. Going all-in on anything also makes you more vulnerable to disease/feed/housing problems.
aerodynamit3
The point of the post wasn't about homesteading. I'm not arguing about that. I'm saying that rabbits as a singular meat source, as described in the video of the post, is unsustainable. And that if you want a single source protein that is MORE sustainable then fish is a good single source for fat, protein and other stuff like omegas.
Feralkyn
It's not unsustainable, you just need to supplement with fats. If that's their *protein* source, if they have oils or dairy for the meal, it'll be fine.
MrStealYourGiF
Let me know where you are putting your insect farm, ima breed ducks next to it.
SpicyGoober
Ya but that's if you only eat rabbit which wasn't what she was getting at. Plus that was also more associated with eating wild rabbits with little to no fat on them. Just don't live on only rabbit like a weirdo and you're totally fine
aerodynamit3
No where in that video does she mention any supplementation to the rabbit meat.
nichfra
You can see that the rabbit is fried in the pan with some kind of fat. That alone should be enough already. Also if you eat the organ meat like the liver too it's much less dangerous and you shouldn't ever just eat one thing anyway. The latter is so obvious nobody should need to be told that.
SpicyGoober
Nowhere does she say to eat only rabbit. You're just pulling that one out of a hat
aerodynamit3
Talking about rabbit meat as "sustainable" but not mentioning the issues with starvation associated with consumption of rabbit meat alone is irresponsible at best.
SpicyGoober
That's like saying you need to put a warning on anyone recommending to grow tomatoes because you can't live on them alone.
SpicyGoober
She says rabbits are self sustainable as in they're very efficient, require little space, food, they breed crazy fast, etc.. not that you are self sustainable on only rabbit.
aerodynamit3
At 50 seconds she says "everybody who wants to be more self sustainable should get meat rabbits"
canigifinpaint
Just raise chickens... they're way easier and you also get eggs.
LazerSpacePirate
Chickens are dirty assholes but if you've got room they are better.
anononanonanona
Chickens for the eggs to make the mayonnaise to go with the hare to help compensate for the lack of fats in the hare meat. Besides, diversification is critical in agriculture. Never know when some random wild bird is gonna drop by and plague-kill your entire coop.
Atlasraven
Chickens fly around and eat bugs. Rabbits don't fly and eat mostly grass hay.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Rabbits are tasty... Both for variation
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darkstarmc
My boyfriend is deathly allergic to chicken
swofromtherock
No
InablueMule
Chickens will also violently attack you which is some consolation when you process them'.
QueenV17
Iām wondering if there are ones not used to frequent human interaction? Mine never attack and I can usually pick them up with little to no chasing
QueenV17
**those are ones
Agouti
Eggs are great but calling them easier is strange. They have more complex feed requirements, breed slower, have more diseases they are prone to, and take an order of magnitude more effort to process.
CJAW
Rabbits lay eggs, too. They've got candy in 'em.
pullingsixty
My honor to tick you over to 100
CJAW
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ValuableInformation
Yours give you candy? Mine only ever have dark chocolate in them. Weird. Wanna swap rabbits?
BeaverOnFire
I bet it has a real bitter and earthy taste to it. https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1cWtpenZhMTF1NXk4dDhxZTMxdjdxYzk0dWJoNGhjNHdxZmxtamRoMSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/5ovJRtAcpeSTodsxI1/200w.webp
Thranx
to process for meat? super not. Rabbit is way easier.
Uselesstoy
Hell yeah.. had to go to my aunts once a year to butcher chickens and it SUCKED. Especially when they dunk multiple chickens at once. Once they cool off, pulling off the feathers blows. I avoided eating chicken until I was in my 40's. My brother in law could skin gut and clean rabbits n squirrels in about a minute each. Since I kept rabbits as pets I refused to help tho.
msporkboy
In 1928 the hoover campaign promised a chicken i. every pot. Chickens were a luxury! we only get cheap chicken because of factory farming. rabbits are way easier.
barbarian818
It's easier to fly under the municipal radar raising bunnies than chickens in a town. My town specifically forbids chickens in the core wards and strictly limits them on the outer wards.
Bladedrummer
Processing a chicken for meat is way harder than a rabbit...
Shadowspawn1115
Meat chickens and egg layers are not the same chickens. You'd need to raise both kinds.
or0b0ur0s
You really sort of have to do both, but chickens get pretty complicated. They're also messy, noisy, and take more space than you'd expect. Rabbits are easy to keep clean, and quiet, if slightly destructive (their digging claws can damage wood way more than you'd expect, so cage accordingly).
Unfortunately, rabbit is nutritionally incomplete. You must supplement with other protein or you'll get sick and die, eventually.
RoyalOss
I wonder if rabbits are also safer for health, with the bird flu and the micro dust coming off chickens. Or if it doesnt matter as rabbits can get some nasty diseases too and maybe have microdust as well?
ropetopus
Chickens arenāt the issue, itās commercial macrofarming thatās the issue. Raise any animal in conditions that most chickens are raised, youāll have some problems.
angryregistrar
To further this, bird flu mostly spreads via the human workers taking it from megaflock to megaflock as they move from one farm to another. Rabbit farming definitely won't have a similar problem on a small local scale.
nichfra
If you eat literally nothing but rabbit that's going to get you sick but I don't think anyone is talking about that.
ropetopus
Rabbit is a complete protein. You donāt need other sources of protein, you do need some extra B and K vitamins and fats though.
Rabbit starvation comes from insufficient fat, not insufficient protein.
Feralkyn
Isn't it fat that you need, not other protein?
or0b0ur0s
Upon looking it up briefly, apparently it's more complicated than I realized. As long as you have fat & carb sources AT ALL (animal or vegetable), you're fine. It's trying to live in the woods trapping rabbits and either nothing else or only other animals with no fat on them (and no carbs) is where you get in trouble.
Feralkyn
Riiiight that's what I thought, thank you! I do wonder if domestic breeds are more fatty, but either way a modern diet's unlikely to suffer too much unless a person's already thin, I'd imagine
RatOnnaStick
Reminds me of one of my favorite books as a kid, Farley Mowat - Never cry wolf.
In that story he ate mice only to prove wolves can survive on a mouse diet and are not the main culprit killing caribou. He gut and skinned them first and started having major nutrient deficiencies. But then he switched eating them skin-on, guts (and fat) included and it became more sustainable.
Loved the recipesā¦ :)
LinemanMatt