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alucielia
Diapers and formula is expensive
PlasticFicus
They make you read the same story over and over and interrupt on every page.
sadurdaynight
The cost of having and raising a child is so much that most folks can either have kids or retire, but not both.. And they dont realize it.
Zimbabwean
$500 a week for us
Ehvilmonkey
I think its 10% of your imcome but max 287€ per monthhere in Finland and if it would be under 27€ they dont charge you at all. Meals and all
Ehvilmonkey
And from second child it would be half from that and from there always -20%
LP19
Even if you are already insomniac. You will stay awake every single night for the rest of your life worrying.
StripTheFleshSaltTheWound
I've peed myself at least five times since getting pregnant.
buttonbutton
My daughter brought a stomach virus home. I just peed myself while I was throwing up. I hope my 3 week old doesn’t get sick. ?
aborum
Laughs in Danish
PeopleDust
MyCatsNameIsPotato
Sometimes when your pregnant your body attacks you and you can’t walk without severe and excruciating pain in your vagina and back. And ..
MyCatsNameIsPotato
People like to tell you it’s normal. It’s not. Get a doc and friends to listen to you!! I can’t wait until May. I just want to walk again.
PrincessNakedMoleRat
Say goodbye to ever being able to get ready to go in 5 minutes.
trekxtrider
We had twins on our first try, daycare was $2,200 USD a month for both.
s0uld0g
Daycare is $300/week, lol. Add context. $300/week is possible, but only 3-530p M-F.
screamingpotato
Lice.
UdensZirnis
You guys pay for daycare? /Latvian
SeismicCoin
when i was a kid we definitely didnt pay for daycare (we'd have been too poor to afford it at any price but i still went) but im not sure >>
SeismicCoin
how common free daycare was even back then (around 30 years ago) or if it was state sponsored or if the city paid for it or what.
SerialChickenLover
My fiancé’s employer is run by women and they offer to reimburse $10k/year in childcare. Naturally, I told her she is forbidden to quit.
Markamanic
You have to feed, clean, and raise them to be decent people.
anotherdeadaquarian
cONDOMS INSTED OF Babbies
DunnowForgot
The planet is too crowded. Stop populating.
vlcoun
Take that message to Africa and India. White population is descending af
TobiFuenke
Hey, be part of the solution. Lead with a good example and free up some space!
DunnowForgot
This bloodline ends with me. I'm doing my part. You?
TobiFuenke
Oh, great to hear. But aren’t you crowding the planet right now?
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Yeah this must be in middle America. Out here on the coast the only babysitter you'll get for $300/week will be on drugs
Brettkeen
America deserves public daycare and preschool
FullSpeedAhead
America deserves to allow a parent to stay home & rear their child. It shouldn't take 2 incomes to live well.
ColClone54
But who would subsidize the energy companies that make over $60billion/year in net profits? Will no one think of the CEO's?!?!
LooseMooseNoose
Americans deserve tax funded education for all including college. It’s an investment in the country’s well being! Regards from Sweden.
Brettkeen
Damn skppy it do
BlackCatCasper
Those 800 overseas bases don’t pay for themselves you know!
buttkrak
america is a public daycare and preschool
UchihaAuggie
Bravo
itsahorse
Kiwiwhovian
Is New Zealand the only place with subsidised childcare?
AgamemnonsMemes
Australia too.
TobiFuenke
Daycare is free here.
CannaFreak
Costs me only 40€/month for their lunch.
TobiFuenke
Yeah, food and entry fees for museums, zoos etc cost around 23 € in Berlin/month.
AwesomeTeddybear
Daycare is not 300 a week where I live... if I were to bring my kid 5 days, it would cost close to 500
XNXXNX
Same for me in LA
Bored4
Maybe it is 300 at the daycare in a repurposed True Value next to a liquor store.
dingoflickums
250 here for a good daycare, I guess I should feel lucky
Anuglierlucyliu
It costs as much as a month of rent for an adult in his own apartment plus utilities.
Timbagg3d
I live in NJ and daycare was free for our kids
Glorifius
Where in NJ?
Timbagg3d
It’s an Abbott district. My wife and I make close to 6 figures each so it’s not dependent on income.
Bowmore
I would also like to know...it's about $1,300 a month by me in central jersey
perchingbird
Some schools do it but only for preschool. They subsidize but you need to make under household 50k
Grinderslev
What the heck do you even pay taxes for
KRETP
Corporate welfare and guns. Lots of guns.
Xaldyn
The military industrial complex?
GCRust
So the Government can issue contracts for ridiculous weapons systems and politicians can continue to raise their own pay.
dyxj
Guns, boats, and planes, mostly.
infernalcombustionengine
Huge markups on contracts handed to political donors and wealthy welfare queens.
mckenna310
Wars, bro
EchoWhiskyBravo
Free healthcare for seniors, pension for seniors, education, welfare, interest on debt and protecting democracy
stickywiggit
It's complicated, but after WW2 Europe had to demilitarize. The US took over as world police. :-/
stickywiggit
Presidents have tried to cut back but we're pretty much stuck in the role unless the UN ramps up its military. That's the REASON at least...
stickywiggit
The MODERN reason is BLAGRL BLA 'MERIKA HAZ BEST GUNZ PEW PEW BLARRGH!!
stickywiggit
If any y'all curious, this is a really fascinating period in history. Churchill begged FDR to stay armed (even using bioweapons).
macdogjake24
Thirty years later they still clean out your fridge like a horde of rampaging barbarians.
Justtucknrollitup
My mom thinks something is wrong if I dont make a sandwich before i leave.
cleverlydisguised
When me and all 3 brothers are home my mom is super excited... for 2 days. Then she remembers why she wanted us all out of the house.
macdogjake24
I lost my mum last year. You gotta make the most of it . Give her a hug from me. tell her it came all the way from New Zealand.
cleverlydisguised
I'm sorry for your loss, I cant imagine it. My parents had me young, I hope I still have a long time, but we make sure she knows we love her
Moranasaurusrex
And you always have string cheese.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
I am 33 this year and just rummaged through for breakfast while on visit.
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Evanrudeplz
32 yo husband & dad here. Whenever I'm on military duty, I 'lodge' at my parents' (local to my station), I eat free food & lounge around. 1
Fenwaywookie
My son started doing this atv2 and a half, and i was like...i thought that shit happened when he was a teen. Where's the blueberries?
Fafanori
..... ok fair, but at least i go out to buy the food stuffs and put it away D:
AngerySnek
they eat it almost as soon as you put it in thr fridge
PatrikLilja
Correct. I am 30, just drove over to my parents house to eat from their fridge. I am currently in their fridge now as I am writing this.
derzilly
I too choose this person's parents' fridge.
RememberTheC4nt
10 more years and they are going to buy the food for you. Feed you and drive you around
macdogjake24
?
notsol337
Heck yes we do.
voltus
Stop buying all, the things, we like then!
numonster
I just stare at my parents food with envious scrutiny.
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
39 and I still do it. I just do it less often because we live on opposite coasts.
howmuchwoodcouldawoodchuckchuck22
At the ripe age of 31, I have upgraded from eating their food to now taking home decor that I think would look better at my house.
XFilesThemeSong
I am 31. I do both.
GoddammitMrNoodle
Ohhhh... a sophisticated barbarian.
ItsTooHotInHere
Can you be my parent? My mom’s fridge last time had literally 4 apples, a bag of salad mix, 3 eggs, and water bottles... I’m hungry.
macdogjake24
Well you have the plaintive request down pat but we have spuds and spam till Fri so 4 apples is your best bet.
ItsTooHotInHere
I’ll bring the apples and bake cookies if you fry up some spam!
GCRust
To be fair, at 37 years old, my mom always sends me home with food when I visit despite my protestations.
PimpinKen
Yep, she is still used to me eating the leftovers out of her fridge, they go bad if she doesn't givenit to me
RicheTheBuddha
This happens to me still, and I'm 51. It's a lot easier to just take the yummy stuff home than argue with a crazy 79 year old lady.
macdogjake24
? please think of me next time you hug your old crazy mum. Lost my fierce old mum last year at 86,
GCRust
Oh I already learned that lesson. It's to the point whenever I get home my wife asked what my mom sent home with me this time.
RicheTheBuddha
I also remember Dad coming home from Grandma's with bags of food. Mostly a bunch of fruit and a box of cookies. Good stuff.
khensu83
My nick name for my sister and her partner at the locates
DaPPandDaPP
Bc they can locate any food nearby?
khensu83
And consume it all
TheS4ndm4n
I think he means locusts
DaPPandDaPP
But the thing says “locates”
khensu83
That’s what I meant my spelling is the worst even spell check has a hard time understanding me sometimes
LooseMooseNoose
Daycare is ~$177/month where I live... Welcome to socialist Sweden
Youhavinagiraffe
And in the UK you get 15 hours of childcare a week free for 3 and 4 year olds
Thatannoyinggit
I personally don't get that isn't there for 2 or 1 year old (without the means test bs) any break in career decreases growth. Maternity runs
Thatannoyinggit
Out at 9 months. That's a big shortfall to cost to cover for early year's.
KissTheLuckyEgg
In socialist Netherlands it is 7-8 euros per hour, per child... Can become quite expensive!
SergeyPrkl
Here in Finland some counties have totally free, sadly in my county they take 280euro/month for one, two would be 350 or so.
SergeyPrkl
This is max. fee, because we have pretty good salaries. we could get cheaper on private daycare, but quality there is american, substandard.
Sipulikeitto
$226/month here in Finland and it's that high because we earn over the limit (low income families get free daycare).
TheBlackKaiser
Canadian transplant and have a 14m old here. Thank fucking god. Vancouver daycare is outrageous.
M4GNETR0N
Its Eur 1700 a month for 4 days a week where i live. The government sponsors a cool grand though
ShadowbanMyAss
Gods of Metal blessed Sweden!
LooseMooseNoose
Honestly unions and social democrats blessed Sweden. I’m more of a liberal myself but the first to recognise what the social dems has done
GodzillaHarddiskson
It's worth pointing out that that's basically the maximum amount you pay per child. I pay around $117 for two kids, but that's only for my
GodzillaHarddiskson
part of it (we're separated). It's basically nothing compared to what you get, for me it's 9hrs/day with breakfast, lunch and everything.
GodzillaHarddiskson
Honestly, it would probably cost me more to feed them at home
Waitihavesomething4this
We literally are having kids 12 months apart Bc my husband is a vet and in school and they pay him so he can stay home. They’ll be in
Waitihavesomething4this
Pre-k (free for low income) when he’s done and we can dodge daycare costs completely
LooseMooseNoose
Sorry to hear you have to go through such hassle just to have kids :(
Waitihavesomething4this
I have a 12 year old too. We weren’t gonna have any (new husband) Bc *gestures to everything* then we find out we’re pregnant 2 wks later
Waitihavesomething4this
Decided 2 is easier than 1, and we’d have another while he was still in school. I apparently get pregnant pretty easily
Joylove
BuT ThE LiBeRaLs!!11,,
steadfastpivot
Sweden has more economic freedom than does the United States. So it is also more capitalist than us.
LooseMooseNoose
In a way, yes.
PappaOpium
I live in Stockholm and pay $118/m. I think it's only 177 during the first year while the kids are in diapers (extra costs)
bobwords612
Minnesota it changes with age, but most in the cities are $2200+ for infants full time.
Seizethecarp2
MI here- $2100/mo
AK90
Ayyy SWEDEN!
LooseMooseNoose
Svenskar upvotar alltid svenskar ;)
ElbowDeepInATshirt
Länge leve socialismen! ^_^ Det är typ vad vi pröjsar för två ungar!
LooseMooseNoose
Perfekt, då funkar ju systemet!
ElbowDeepInATshirt
Verkligen! ^_^ Jag älskar att betala skatt!
NavaHo07
Sounds like the hellascape the GOP and just about every Boomer describes
LooseMooseNoose
Sorry you have to deal with that over there, truly. Make sure you vote for a better life I suppose, or try to affect in some way!
NavaHo07
What's funny is that I hear that our "farthest out there politician" Bernie Sanders would be like center or center left in many EU Countries
LooseMooseNoose
It’s a bit funny hearing him and thinking like “yes, that’s how we have it, why’s that controversial?”
themexicanwave
Free full time childcare from 3 onwards in Scotland.
FunctioningWorkaholic
It’s ~50€/month in Germany for first child, and 0 for more kids.
timmmephisto
That highly depends on what city/county you live in. In a city nearby its 500€ / month.
pandemicmodedad
In toronto the cheapest is 1200 a month but you can get it subsidy depending on how much you make but still its too expensive
BengalProblemKing
You forgot to mention that some of them are free too...
RobblesTheGreat
Paying $500 per week for my two little hooligans. Something is profoundly wrong with capitalism in the US.
IdiotSavantTinker
$2,000 a month?? You could rent them their own house for that. Wtf.
Isorikk
Where do you live that houses are only $2000 a month??
WhoSaidYouCouldEatTheLastCookie
£800/month in scotland
pinkevilgirl
Da fuk, it's over twice that here across the border in Norway >.>
Rihn
WaywardScientist
Quebec’s have 8.25$/day day cares and the gvnmt is pushing for it to be completely free in the next few years. Yay socialism!
justripit
In Ontario I was at 60 a day, managed to find 30 when I moved towns.
ventikona
I pay $40/kid per day in Ontario.
safetcup
People should know that the fare started at 5$ a day in 1996. 3,25$ inflation in 25 years.
latenightboomom
Daycare is $120/day around here in Sydney, Australia.
TwoBadMiloshDead
Per day?!
ellieellieellie
Yeah but the government does subsidise this cost for most and for those who don’t get it earn enough to pay it.
latenightboomom
Yep.
TargetedAdBot
But it's heavily state supported. 20x177 = 3540. It's not even enough to cover two staff member salaries.
PuzzledCompletely
What's the kid/caretaker ratio? Presumably it isn't 1:2. (Not that state supported child care is a bad thing.)
LooseMooseNoose
The one our kid is in has 8 caretakers and 30 kids
perchingbird
Our lowest ratio is 1:4 for 6 week olds and up
LooseMooseNoose
Yes, that’s how we use our taxes..
fruust
Most daycares are state/city run.
LooseSeall
I’m hoping to become relevant enough in my work to justify Sweden or Norway allowing me to immigrate there. As a Texan, I’d love to live in
LooseSeall
a developed and healthy country and not in this fucked up state
LooseMooseNoose
What’s your field of work? - generally swedes love employing Americans so it’s not impossible
LooseSeall
Right now it’s just general account management. I’m still working at my degree so there’s that but I’ll get it this summer and then I’ll be
LooseSeall
taking a coding class so I can dip my toes into data analysis & that should help! Good to know they like employing Americans, gives me hope
tg2222222
In UK you get 15-30 hours free / week for 3yr + kids.
flowofsilence
40 eur here in Latvia
PelleVampor
23€ in Berlin Germany. Per month(!) and kid.
ZenToaster
I'm assuming that in the end it costs more than that but that's just the amount you pay.
LooseMooseNoose
Of course, it’s subsidised by municipal taxes (or however you say it in English). Worth every penny though, even though I’m paying for 1/2
LooseMooseNoose
Other people’s kids. 2/2
Kiares
That still seems expensive.
LordElups
Childcare is expensive. Nobody should be working for a poor wage. Especially those looking after our kids
TheBlackKaiser
It really isn't.
SadToSay
Like a decade ago I was paying 250 in the D.C. area a week and that was kind of low. So 1k+ a month 177 a month is peanuts.
DKB13
What?? Where is that expensive? I'm paying £50 per day in the UK.
mthrndr01
I'd spring for like... $30 a week at a stretch? Dangle them from one of those baby bouncer things hooked to the ceiling.
ImSorryIfYouGotOffended
$1,700/mo where I live..
TheBlackKaiser
You're from Vancouver aren't you?
FelineFatal
Compared to $1400/month in NY, and we still have to provide all meals, diapers, and bedding each day.
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
You also get childcare allowance
LooseMooseNoose
Americans don’t?
2graves
... No... Tax breaks though... I guess
LooseMooseNoose
It’s based on monthly income. My wife and I are fortunate to have well paid jobs. Lower income families pay way less
furnitureandeffects
This is amazing. I was laid off a few years back from a job I loved. I had to pull my kids out of what was an amazingly priced day home.
furnitureandeffects
They called me to come back a few months later, and I actually couldn't go back to work, because the old day home had filled up (as to be
furnitureandeffects
Expected) and the amount of money I old be making didn't come close to what I needed for daycare and basic living. So I was stuck, wanting,
ErikBilling
Hahaha vem fan nerduttar det här
LooseMooseNoose
Australiensare
s3nd
Eller jänkare
HumtyFuckty
As an American female I've decided kids have a poor ROI and have chosen not to invest. I'd be ok as step mom but that's enough.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
You better get a hunky daddy out of it though.
robindawilliams
If I ever had kids I'd love em to death, but no way I'm buying a 20 year investment that may just want to go to art school.
illogicalphallusies
...kids arent "investments" that yield you specifically any kind of return. they propagate humanity. thats the investment.
robindawilliams
Honestly, I'd rather help make the world nicer for other people then force my own kids onto it. We ain't running out of ppl anytime soon
WhistlePig
Or make poor choices that impact them for the rest of their lives
NASAguy1000
As a dude, agreed. Both for what you said but also because of a bad family history of mental and physical illness. I dont wish it on any kid
HumtyFuckty
Yeah I am high functioning high anxiety with ADHD. I'm smart and successful enough but I don't wish this on anyone else
NASAguy1000
You get what's up. Its all fun and games till your body fails you and your mind betrays you. As nuts as it is i gave the part of me that 1/
NASAguy1000
Whispers all the negative shit and makes me turn into the hulk Stanley. Stanley is a fucking sick and gets reminded multiple times, that 2/
Peachcappuccino
Stepmum sucks. Source : am stepmum
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Peachcappuccino
I don't suck. The situation does. I assume you were making some form of innuendo however I have chosen to ignore it.
ThisMachine
Honestly if you ignored it you woudnt reply. He was making a joke, you could have just replied "haha" if anything
yourdadrightnow
Step dad is enough too, kids are just so annoying. Also gross
Rawmeat95
WafflesOfMassDeliciousness
What sucks about it?
Peachcappuccino
My husbands ex is insane
WafflesOfMassDeliciousness
Big yikes.
Slamtastik
I don't understand how people with kids on min wage survive.
BadSheila
My husband works days and I work nights, the days he has to stay late, I have to bring my kids with me to work. Been this way for 7 years.
BadSheila
We both make more than minimum wage, still can't afford daycare for 3 kids.
perchingbird
Work 2 jobs, mom takes the kid while they work second job. That's what I've seen even over min wage
Slamtastik
so if you don't have free/underpaid babysitters in your life your just fucked then?
perchingbird
Correct
perchingbird
There are cheap daycares but they're quasi legal nonsense run out of people's houses