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Oct 14, 2017 3:30 PM
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halfmexicanhalfamazing
Operator error
rollerskateorgies
Just wondering if there are any marble slab experts in here
parkerspeare
Damn that’s gotta be at least $3.50?
Jagippi
Atlast it was by accident
TheRedBeerd
It's definitely granite
Garmiet
Wish I could hear what Tony Stark would say in this situation.
fartbox
mytempusername
Coincidence this accident happened while being recorded on camera????
mikelarry104
That’s granite. Full time stoner here can confirm.
vocalgenesis
I bet Edward Elric could fix that.
chip700r
I guess you could say he lost his marbles
ThisisNotTheAccountYoureLooklngFor
I don't know why I scrolled down here but I'm glad I did +1
Imathrowanappalachia
grafikdesigner413
I actual made a huge inhaled "huh". Oh my!
Virus1154
he was rushing.
WhaaatDa
It didn’t suck
tinycutepolypan
I love this.
MrTay
I own a business that does this. The real fault was he flattened out before hitting the table. The machine can handle much more weight.
ConnorRD
Accidently is such a strange word to use for an inanimate object.
HalfBakedAlaskan
The Lord has given you these fifteen...(Clunk)... ten commandments.
Drugmuffin
"Accidentally" that crane is a dickhead
GetFrontOrDieTryin
He forgot to lick
shroome
Also that's what she said
Fuckeverythingaboutyou
dubone99
Of all the funny comments I’ve binged on in the last 70 minutes, this is one that got a real life laugh
CorneliusCornwall
Been there
SmellOfMonkey
Hopefully first
mercbrit
DobryPolak
Operator error mostly. Using incapable equipment. Do the job right or don't do it.
thesmelge
It cracks in half just before it falls off. The material failed, suction was lost due to the two halfs moving apart.
DobryPolak
He used a suction lift that should not have been holding that wide of a piece. Not proper equipment for that. That's why it snapped.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
are you something of expert on stone slabs?
thesmelge
No, I just know stuff. Those lifters are suction based, and you can see it break. It's just deduction.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
how do you the distribution of weight is appropriate for this material, then? you can break anything if you put too much stress on it - >
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
> the question is whether good marble (if it even is marble) is supposed to be fine with this amount of stress.
MyBurnerAccount4
Heool... Mrs. Newhouse? What was your second choice on the countertops?
MyBurnerAccount4
That was supposed to be "Hello", and I am supposed to be sober by now.
d0o0o0d
In my experience, you're not sober until about an hour after spellcheck stops being useful.
kidonanescalator
Need Sauce! I wanna hear it, see if it matches the way I think it sounded.
AlexandrosMechas
Second this.
fitchy0812
*crumple*
Freshlord
I bet it sounds like my broken dreams and will to live.
MrTay
Not as loud as you would think. I’ve seen this happen maybe 20 times. Imagine the sound of big cookie breaking times a 1000.
Krimper
I've used suction lifting devices before and they always feel sketchy. The rated load caps aren't very high either
mercbrit
That will depend on the porosity of the thing it has to lift, the diameter of the cups and the size/flow of the pump.
Krimper
I've used them to lift steel so porosity isn't an issue for that. I just don't trust then to stay stuck to anything.
mercbrit
As long as the pads/cup are large enough you can pretty much lift anything. If you were unconvinced from your experience, something’s wrong.
27yoUGLYvirgin
It didn't drop it. The stone broke off.
baronnapalm
Distinction without a difference
27yoUGLYvirgin
You don't see a difference between a machine failing and a material not being appropriate for use with the machine?
Leeloothedog
I don't really see much of a difference
27yoUGLYvirgin
One would have been failure of the machine. The machine worked fine though, the stone just crumbled under its own weight.
Leeloothedog
not really... if im carrying ice cream and someone bumps into me. i still dropped the ice cream even if i made no mistakes
Tikityler
It flexed without being dropped and snapped. Was not the carry capacity
Leeloothedog
but it still dropped it...
Leeloothedog
also it dropped... because it flexed. nothing snapped
Tikityler
I see what you mean but if it was rigid that would not have been an issue.
BarftheMawg
How much would a slab of marble that size cost?
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MrTay
It’s cheaper for use in the business. That price has a lot of cost absorbed into it.
MrTay
This one maybe $800 retail probably around $1600 have a business.
mercbrit
Its about $10 worth that size.
thatwoodguy
My basalt one was $599 and change for 18 sq ft
MrTay
That’s retail and basalt is more than this marble. Marble is cheap now. It’s like diamonds though some are a fortune.
SpoilGOTandDie
About $0 after it fell.
DobryPolak
Between $2500-$6000 depending on type/quality of the material. Some can be upwards of $15000.
BarftheMawg
Damn. Thank you.
KobeBurger
Skywatcher16
based on the fact that it began to fracture even before it was dropped, id say that would be on the low end, even before it was shattered.
DobryPolak
Agreed. But almost anything cut thin like that has a shear point.
Skywatcher16
true. i dont think marble's should be THAT low...
DobryPolak
Fair point.
Anonawesome
Oh that's not bad. Once watched a dude slam a $200k jet engine part on the ground because he was mad. He got fucked.
DobryPolak
Hopefully literally with a fucking hammer. If you get pissed off and your bitch tantrum costs someone $200k they deserve a hammer fucking.
Anonawesome
Costed the taxpayer to be specific. I'd bet he's in Leavenworth right about now.
DobryPolak
Ooh. Not good to fuck over the government.
mercbrit
Vacuum pump not large enough, pads too small, frame too small, it flexed, broke the seal no receiver to absorb the inrush, it dropped.
AWarlock
When a comment has more up votes than the actual post.
SirPoopyButtholeTheFirst
MrJohnWick
Beat me to it
smellslikeagoodone
It didn't suck, so it dropped.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Except that is literally what it did. And he said so too. The marble just broke, not the machine's fault. Bad marble.
smellslikeagoodone
Ah I see now.
Moose1991
They wouldnt have bought the machine if that was the case
tzxAzrael
nah they bought the machine to do certain size jobs... then someone figured "it's always worked before, why -wouldn't- it do a bit bigger?"
Moose1991
Dude that's standard size slabs of granite, it was bought for that purpose, it had an internal flaw that failed while moving it
tzxAzrael
the marble sheet flexed, then pulled off because they didn't spread the pads out far enough.
Moose1991
So then it falls to human error, not machine
blessedarethecheesemakers
awkwrdshittinpanda
Definitely should of used some double-sided tape
Cmycherrytree
I hope you get paid well because that response coupled with that Gif should be your new resume. Like just the Gif and the responce. HIRED!
bennyb11
How expensive was that marble?
kurmathephoenix
30
CrewMan6
Science and physics and science and engineering terms.
the4getful
ditto
IThurtswhenIP6
U sir are a pro!
Bootstrap409
Mistakes were made...many mistakes were made
Nooneinfamous
You sound hesitant. Are you sure?
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
thanks. never could have figured out that complex problem without an expert.
Nalvor
Someone does this for a living.
MrTay
I do and he has no idea what he’s talking about
Verbodentoegang
How offen do you vacuum pump your marbles ?
stobbe12b
arial52
Receiver to something the inrush?
mercbrit
Its like a tank. To “store” nothing (vacuum). It compensates for any small leaks on the cup seal or pump Failure and air rushing in~inrush
thyfartismurder
I think its missing that one bit of tape to absorb the inrash
looseasamoose
He'd have gotten away with it if he'd been more careful. If you're gonna push equipment to its limits - take it fucking slow
MrTay
He’s not pushing near its limit. Just flattened out before table. The can handle almost double the weight of 2cm marble
grantavius
And he would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids....
drsnu1
I do vacuum-lifts for sub-2ton plates and this explaantion nails it. Be careful with lifts!!
TheRicM
If they held it vertically a little longer and turned it at the last minute, would they have had a chance?
mercbrit
No. Vertical is difficult. As long as you get the air out of the pad faster than its leaking it will stick. The marble peeled off, game over
tzxAzrael
yea but it peeled off when they turned it horizontal. it seemed to be fine on vertical.
mercbrit
The marble bent under its own weight because the rig was not supporting it all over. It peeled off the pad. It may have fractured at the pad
mercbrit
The end result is the same in that air got in, broke the vacuum, it fell off.
mercbrit
Just to add that the larger the pad the less vacuum you need to lift the same weight. Its all about surface area and pressure differential.
TheRicM
Ah, that all makes sense. Thanks for the input!
Cyderdelic
This is why I love imgur...explanations...I just love knowing that other people know stuff..I'll get my coat.
MrTay
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I do this for a living he hit some things but the real reason is he flattened out to soon.
NordicusMaximus
He also was moving forward and the other operator rotated the axis way too fast, accelerated mass overwhelms the undersized suction pads.
IAmUlysses31
That’s about it. It may have made it if they’d tilted it against the bench.
MrTay
I own a company that does this. That’s exactly the mistake it’s a pretty light slab relatively. Compared to a black 3cm granite.
idonthavetimeforthiseither
So the guys who do this for a living are doing it wrong. No chance this is just a case of shit happens? You an expert peeking in the window?
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Are you referring to the guy that fucked up majorly? The guy who obviously did it wrong? That guy? Did he do it wrong? Kinda looks like it.
ChrisBronson
Shit happens when you don't know how to make it not happen.
mercbrit
Expert? Don’t know about that. But I do this for a living.
AlphaIndustrial
That fixture was clearly designed for smaller slabs. Like you said up top. That size of slab neegs a much larger everything. 1/2
AlphaIndustrial
Used to build very similair stuff. But for automotive and metal moving robotics. We had to know weight vs vaccum/surface area contact
mercbrit
Yep. Biggest one I have done was 23 ton curved slabs for lining a tunnel! I was a bit nervous that the math was right but it was fine.
MrTay
I have a business that does exactly this. These machines are mad specially for this application. It’s a material issue.
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MrTay
Proof
MrTay
Lift sorry and he should not have flattened it out until it touched the table.
MrTay
They can life slabs much more heavy than what you see. It’s operator and material at fault here. Should have used a fork lift.
MrTay
MrTay
The reason you wait is because a 2cm slab of marble (less with 3cm) will flex. You keep it as curtails as possible to minimize this.
MrTay
Vertical
Makkenrou
Dat full explanation though...
JiggleWigglepp
Vacuum pump not large enough
mercbrit
& in fewer than 140 characters!
Operational117
That alone is an achievement!
bozthekiller
With punctuation too! Oooooo.
Justanothersubguy
Yeah. I can't even give a normal-length response to what someone else said in 140 characters, let alone an actual description of what someth
Makkenrou
Stannis would be so proud...
idonthavetimeforthiseither
Probably not right however. Client does that and they know what they're doing. Mistakes happen, though, heartbreaking loss.
mercbrit
It is right and the operator clearly does not know what he is doing.
Cthulhuonabike
Marble is very soft and prone to integrated faults. It needs a lot of support. He should have used an a frame
27yoUGLYvirgin
Marble is soft? For some reason I always thought it was one of the hardest stones. No idea why. I thought it was up there with granite.
Imhereforthelurking
Granite needs heavy machines to shape and cut. Marble can be worked and tooled by a guy with an iron chisel, hammer, and a shitload of time.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Thanks for the downvotes for stating that I thought differently previously. Sometimes you really just wonder who hurt some people on imgur.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Or who cares about upvoting/downvoting
27yoUGLYvirgin
I don't care about the points. Look at my downvoted posts. It just annoys me when people express dislike when it makes no sense.
ssyoda2
Ikr?
Cthulhuonabike
Not even close. Marble is metamorphic a stone, whereas granite is igneous
ssyoda2
which is why i would get granite and not marble for a counter top
27yoUGLYvirgin
TIL
amyhadalittlepond
You're igneous. I'm quite knowledgeful.
Sharklaserspewpew
You're indigenous...
Krakencrotch
That's probably what makes it a good sculpting material.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Yeah
baronnapalm
Sort of. Makes it easy to work but also super prone to failure.
mercbrit
Vacuum lifting is the best and most efficient way to move this, its just the wrong spec kit for a slab of that size/weight.
acme64
if he would of slowed down it wouldn't of flexed and broken the seal
mercbrit
Maybe
PCGamingKurshuk
You can be on my post apocalypse team.
mercbrit
Is that a team of people that post about the apocalypse?