I'm more interested in his voters and his local Democratic Party. Why does he keep running, are there no other options? Why isn't the Party developing new candidates? Why aren't volunteers asking for new leadership? Why are none of the local Dem Party members trying to push him out?
What the fuck is the point at that age? I don’t get the appeal. If I was a politician I’d serve until I was 70, tops. And then, only if I had some major goal I thought I could accomplish like passing universal health care.
It’s a bad idea though, because it would require a great deal of effort to amend the constitution in order to remove a few outliers while doing nothing to address the core problem.
Cognitive tests would be similarly bad because the second a bad actor is in charge again, it becomes weaponized.
Term limits are ludicrously bad too, which is why the Heritage Foundation wants them so badly
We already have term limits---it's called The Vote.
The citizens should have the final say about who represents them and if they think a candidate is too old (among other possible reasons) they simply vote them out. But if they think an officeholder is doing well for them, they keep them. The trick is to have smart voters---do we think that is not possible?
I'd prefer to see IQ limits first. A lot of people are still sharp as a tack through their 90s. Some people are fucking morons their entire lives. For example, Donold tRump.
The fault is with the idiots voting him in time after time, not with the laws. They have a chance to kick him out every 4 years, but choose not to. So they need to live with the consequences of their actions (or lack thereof, those not voting are just as culpable).
PS. This is why the House is such a clusterfuck at times. With 2 year terms, Representatives are almost always campaigning rather than actually getting down to work in Congress.
I'm fine with old people in Congress. Bernie, right? They need representation too. What I'm not fine with is 1. people who are not mentally or physically fit for the job 2. a system that supports incumbents, 3. a captured political system that does not serve the voters. What I want is a system where after 65, you automatically lose party affiliation and your duties turn to mentoring younger politicians and teaching regular Americans how to effectively engage with their own government.
It would be better if he stepped aside and let the newer blood in. He could still represent ideas on news shows or whatever, but time for an AOC or Mamdani or … whoever else would pop up … to be given the reigns of what he represents. Plus he helped get Trump elected in 2016.
100% agree. This is why I have an issue with a system that supports incumbents. This is a job that absolutely needs experienced, seasoned people - like AOC. The other controversial thing I want: mandatory voting. Make it easy, make it mandatory. The people who really decided the last election are the ones who stayed home. That has to stop. Democracy is not a spectator sport. Old coots should be welcome, but the instant you can't do your job, young or old, or are corrupt - you are done.
They all also prob banking on the idea that some kind of immortality is 'just around the corner' and they will get first dibs. Imagine all yo'leadership are heads in jars controlling a swarm of drones and flock cameras.
I'm just imagining a head in a jar screaming that it doesn't know how to change the camera angle and then yelling at some kid (40 year old) to do it for them...
Similarly for CEOs of multiple companies. Either it is not a full job and you are probably overpaid. Or you are not really having such a hard time as you would make us believe and should earn less (and give your employees more)
Age limits, like term limits, is a distraction issue. Neither will make your political party give you someone worth voting for. If your political party can't come up with someone worth voting for, you need to fix the party or move to one that can.
If we can't do term limits on these assholes at least do age limits. I'm 74 and I can't do shit now that I could just 5 years ago. 70 should be the max age to run for office,
I met him when I was a reporter in Iowa. He was a smarmy asshole then, too. And he loved to try to hog the interview when I wanted to talk to people there.
Yeah. The administration is a joke, but Iowa has been sending this guy to represent them in Congress since 1975!!! The people who have been in office since the 80s or even the 90s (maybe even the early 2000s) ARE THE PROBLEM and always HAVE been. If they weren't the problem, they'd've fixed shit by now. Party aside. These people have CAUSED, or failed to halt our political decline.
And universal healthcare. And maybe even a more UBS-oriented Social Security system. Less wealth concentration into the military-industrial complex and banking/investment firms. Can you IMAGINE what we could have done with the economy if our pockets had not been drained with increasing acceleration over the last 40 years by the healthcare insurance industry ALONE?
I personally failed. I detested the idea of going into politics because is was a slimy place in all aspects I could see. What I failed to realize it that it was a slimy place BECAUSE of the people who DID decide it was a place they could thrive. I, and other like-minded people who detested the slime SHOULD have entered and pushed the slime out as best we could. Not enough of us did. And I take personal guilt on that count.
Not at all. The young are not so set in their ways that they cannot adopt, or adapt, to change. Why do you not see that it is the "young rebels" who are proposing the supposed radical social platforms? Are there any other Bernies in Congress right now? Us old farts are stuck in the 1980's and that is what has to change.
Is your argument that we should have more leftists or that we should have more young people? Because they aren't the same thing at all.
Basically half of everybody who voted in 2024 voted for Trump, regardless of age. 18-29 year olds: 47%. 30-44: 47% Do you not see all the young MAGA Republicans in congress? And no, Bernie isn't the only older progressive, he's just one of the few the media bother to mention.
No, not at all, actually. The old farts running the country have ideas that were set decades ago, and don't reflect the modern world at all. They are unwilling to change as it takes them out of their comfort zones. Like the Orange Returd wants to bring back steam powered launchers for aircraft carriers, how stupid is that? We need a progressive rump that can balance the fixed thinkers out. Small steps of change that we can all adapt to easily. Too much change is not good but no change is worse!
We have term limits; they’re called election cycles. What we need is an educated electorate to not be lazy af and actually go vote every time they can.
Do you think that being in Congress is a skilled or unskilled job? How long do you think it takes for someone to understand how to do their job in Congress?
/You can downvote, but you can't answer the questions. Why? Because y'all are cowards who want to FEEL but not think. You don't want to imagine how complicated it is to run the government directly responsible for almost 350 million people and influences the lives of 8 billion people.
Being an elected official should be a full time job. It should be considered a professional career. We don't need amateurs fkng things up because they have no experience in economics or national security!
Donfolstar
If you do not like who is in office we have a solution for that, it's called voting. Telling others who can represent them is not a good look.
freshthrowaway1138
I'm more interested in his voters and his local Democratic Party. Why does he keep running, are there no other options? Why isn't the Party developing new candidates? Why aren't volunteers asking for new leadership? Why are none of the local Dem Party members trying to push him out?
In the end, he is a reflection of his voters.
petonious
Quick question Chuck. Who's add blocker you running? Do you pay for it.
CreativeCreative
Remove the Supreme court while you’re at it. Apparently it doesn’t take a lot to corrupt and influence how they vote. Alitoledgedly.
Heelcat70
Soon we will need to employ a Congressional Diaper Changer and Drool Wiper.
jzbstl
What the fuck is the point at that age? I don’t get the appeal. If I was a politician I’d serve until I was 70, tops. And then, only if I had some major goal I thought I could accomplish like passing universal health care.
Che07
To those downvoting: Grandpas, it's way past your bedtime!
wadatahmydamie
It’s a bad idea though, because it would require a great deal of effort to amend the constitution in order to remove a few outliers while doing nothing to address the core problem.
Cognitive tests would be similarly bad because the second a bad actor is in charge again, it becomes weaponized.
Term limits are ludicrously bad too, which is why the Heritage Foundation wants them so badly
Zezustammany231
He's not even a nice guy.
tsonquin
This is way more important than his age.
IDoNotWantAnAccount
Legislating a future they won't live to deal with.
mimst
We already have term limits---it's called The Vote.
The citizens should have the final say about who represents them and if they think a candidate is too old (among other possible reasons) they simply vote them out. But if they think an officeholder is doing well for them, they keep them. The trick is to have smart voters---do we think that is not possible?
Resistance1000
I'd prefer to see IQ limits first. A lot of people are still sharp as a tack through their 90s. Some people are fucking morons their entire lives. For example, Donold tRump.
MagicalHamFlaps
the average american is 39 female 40 male but the average elected official is 68.....time to boot the boomers
duktayp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerontocracy#United_States ruled by leaders who are substantially older than most of the population
AdmiralButtStuff
Yup. This is a problem both parties have, and it's only slightly worse for Republicans. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.
staceyjorgenson31415
-#WoodChipper🤞
drgonzo67
The fault is with the idiots voting him in time after time, not with the laws. They have a chance to kick him out every 4 years, but choose not to. So they need to live with the consequences of their actions (or lack thereof, those not voting are just as culpable).
draqsko
Every 6 years for a Senator. Representatives are 2 year terms, Senators are 6 year terms, and Presidents and VPs are 4 year terms.
drgonzo67
Sorry, not a US citizen... Thanks for the correction!
draqsko
PS. This is why the House is such a clusterfuck at times. With 2 year terms, Representatives are almost always campaigning rather than actually getting down to work in Congress.
rubypilgrim
I'm fine with old people in Congress. Bernie, right? They need representation too. What I'm not fine with is 1. people who are not mentally or physically fit for the job 2. a system that supports incumbents, 3. a captured political system that does not serve the voters. What I want is a system where after 65, you automatically lose party affiliation and your duties turn to mentoring younger politicians and teaching regular Americans how to effectively engage with their own government.
Imjurbro
It would be better if he stepped aside and let the newer blood in. He could still represent ideas on news shows or whatever, but time for an AOC or Mamdani or … whoever else would pop up … to be given the reigns of what he represents. Plus he helped get Trump elected in 2016.
rubypilgrim
100% agree. This is why I have an issue with a system that supports incumbents. This is a job that absolutely needs experienced, seasoned people - like AOC. The other controversial thing I want: mandatory voting. Make it easy, make it mandatory. The people who really decided the last election are the ones who stayed home. That has to stop. Democracy is not a spectator sport. Old coots should be welcome, but the instant you can't do your job, young or old, or are corrupt - you are done.
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
I’ll be working until I die, the difference between me and him is HE CAN AFFORD TO RETIRE ( and should have decades ago)
AtmaDarkwolf
They all also prob banking on the idea that some kind of immortality is 'just around the corner' and they will get first dibs. Imagine all yo'leadership are heads in jars controlling a swarm of drones and flock cameras.
Unclescam
I'm just imagining a head in a jar screaming that it doesn't know how to change the camera angle and then yelling at some kid (40 year old) to do it for them...
Hoogemast
It kinda shows how much work and effort is needed for their jobs.
Hoogemast
Similarly for CEOs of multiple companies. Either it is not a full job and you are probably overpaid. Or you are not really having such a hard time as you would make us believe and should earn less (and give your employees more)
tsonquin
Age limits, like term limits, is a distraction issue. Neither will make your political party give you someone worth voting for. If your political party can't come up with someone worth voting for, you need to fix the party or move to one that can.
dragonsdemesne
In theory, the people should just not be voting for poor candidates. In practice, however... that "D" or "R" is all most people look at.
qcernie
If we can't do term limits on these assholes at least do age limits. I'm 74 and I can't do shit now that I could just 5 years ago. 70 should be the max age to run for office,
tsonquin
Term limits will result in inexperienced corrupt politicians. Age limits will result in young corrupt politicians. Fix the party instead.
DWolf
I met him when I was a reporter in Iowa. He was a smarmy asshole then, too. And he loved to try to hog the interview when I wanted to talk to people there.
wadatahmydamie
Years ago, he ran his own Twitter account and it showed. Dude types like he’s permanently having a stroke
yamsonyamsonyams
Honestly, this is voters’ fault. He wins primaries, he wins general elections
Nukls
what a joke of an administration
PullingTheSkyApart
…he’s been there since the 80s. Through all of the administrations.
oldguyexlurker
Yeah. The administration is a joke, but Iowa has been sending this guy to represent them in Congress since 1975!!! The people who have been in office since the 80s or even the 90s (maybe even the early 2000s) ARE THE PROBLEM and always HAVE been. If they weren't the problem, they'd've fixed shit by now. Party aside. These people have CAUSED, or failed to halt our political decline.
l3ikes
Anybody else read DILDO in 8 & 9? Just me? Ok..
Nukls
Roadblockers
you all could have had High Speed Rail
long ago
oldguyexlurker
And universal healthcare. And maybe even a more UBS-oriented Social Security system. Less wealth concentration into the military-industrial complex and banking/investment firms. Can you IMAGINE what we could have done with the economy if our pockets had not been drained with increasing acceleration over the last 40 years by the healthcare insurance industry ALONE?
oldguyexlurker
I personally failed. I detested the idea of going into politics because is was a slimy place in all aspects I could see. What I failed to realize it that it was a slimy place BECAUSE of the people who DID decide it was a place they could thrive. I, and other like-minded people who detested the slime SHOULD have entered and pushed the slime out as best we could. Not enough of us did. And I take personal guilt on that count.
Nukls
they've been around since Reagan, huh...
oldguyexlurker
Grassley goes back, nearly to Nixon.
DJOldguy
The gerontocracy is in complete control, which means the revolution must come soon.
tsonquin
Your focus on age instead of platform is short sighted.
DJOldguy
Not at all. The young are not so set in their ways that they cannot adopt, or adapt, to change. Why do you not see that it is the "young rebels" who are proposing the supposed radical social platforms? Are there any other Bernies in Congress right now? Us old farts are stuck in the 1980's and that is what has to change.
tsonquin
Is your argument that we should have more leftists or that we should have more young people? Because they aren't the same thing at all.
Basically half of everybody who voted in 2024 voted for Trump, regardless of age. 18-29 year olds: 47%. 30-44: 47% Do you not see all the young MAGA Republicans in congress?
And no, Bernie isn't the only older progressive, he's just one of the few the media bother to mention.
DJOldguy
No, not at all, actually. The old farts running the country have ideas that were set decades ago, and don't reflect the modern world at all. They are unwilling to change as it takes them out of their comfort zones. Like the Orange Returd wants to bring back steam powered launchers for aircraft carriers, how stupid is that? We need a progressive rump that can balance the fixed thinkers out. Small steps of change that we can all adapt to easily. Too much change is not good but no change is worse!
rydecker
We might actually be in Hell.
Frenchgeek
If this is Hell, I pity the demons who must work here.
LittleChickadee
Young or old, give me term limits! After 2 or 3 terms, time for new blood in every case for all of Congress!
HughGRecti0n
We have term limits; they’re called election cycles. What we need is an educated electorate to not be lazy af and actually go vote every time they can.
wadatahmydamie
Term limits are a godawful idea. Why do you think Heritage has Trump pushing them so hard?
freshthrowaway1138
Do you think that being in Congress is a skilled or unskilled job? How long do you think it takes for someone to understand how to do their job in Congress?
freshthrowaway1138
/You can downvote, but you can't answer the questions. Why? Because y'all are cowards who want to FEEL but not think. You don't want to imagine how complicated it is to run the government directly responsible for almost 350 million people and influences the lives of 8 billion people.
Being an elected official should be a full time job. It should be considered a professional career. We don't need amateurs fkng things up because they have no experience in economics or national security!
wadatahmydamie
GwensBackOnHerBS
lol
resworn
Yet still looks in better shape than the sitting president, amazing.
OmNachoMama
It helps that he has great healthcare paid for by you and me
periwinklepanda
He really does. I honestly wouldn't have guessed he was in his 90's from this picture of him.
Che07
You forgot the "h"...
resworn
🤝
Ticker1
I admit that I'm a bit slow and it took me a while to figure out where the "h" went.
GamleErik
My friend is slow, can you help him?
Ticker1
place the h in the word sitting after the "s"
GamleErik
He says thank you